Depends on server configuration and load..etc..etc
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:55 PM
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Hi,
how long do you generally use the following
how do you deal with your accounting department? They can't grasp it
that a machine is worthless as a server after three years...
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From: Irfan Malik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January, 2002 10:53 AM
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January 2002 10:00
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Subject: RE: average lifespan server
how do you deal with your accounting department? They can't
grasp it that a machine is worthless as a server after
Till I need to.
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:55 AM
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Subject: average lifespan server
Hi,
how long do you generally use the following servers before replacing
them:
1. mailserver
2. PDC
) it'.
Mike Scott
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January 2002 10:00
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how do you deal with your accounting department? They can't grasp it
that a machine is worthless as a server after
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From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January 2002 13:29
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Kim,
A server is only worthless after 3 years if the load on it
has outgrown it's capacity, or it's becoming difficult
about that power supply example.
Kim
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From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January, 2002 2:40 PM
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From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January 2002
spec'd well and the config was more than up to the task.
I buy servers to last a MINIMUM of 3 years.
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:00 AM
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Subject: RE: average lifespan server
how do you deal
it to them.
Let them make the decision based on true facts. Then if it goes pear shaped
it ain't your fault. See? :)
Dom.
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January 2002 13:49
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Subject: RE: average lifespan server
Our two main
: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:49 AM
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Our two main fleservers are up for replacement but accounting sees it
differently 'as they are only three years old', but I do not want to support
those anymore because they carry too much weight
I remember someone around here not too long ago was speccing for 10 yrs...
:)
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:38 AM
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From: Kim
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I remember someone around here not too long ago was speccing for 10 yrs...
:)
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From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January, 2002 4:34 PM
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Yes, but that person had no clue on real life in IT, and also reneged on
that claim when I pressed them to provide one example
When I was at Cerner, it was a 6 year depreciation schedule.
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From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:34 AM
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Yes, but that person had no clue on real life
10yrs? are they nutz?
This is an easy one Lease for 3yrs. This pretty much assures of
hardware replacement as obsolescence occurs and accounting loves leasing
effects on the cash flows.
The 3yr term just happens to match most manufactures' warranty period so
you never have to worry about
Are you saying all my servers are worthless?
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From: Kim Schotanus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:59 AM
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how do you deal with your accounting department? They can't
mine sure are, if they don't live up to the needs, then to me they are
worthless.
Kim
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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January, 2002 5:25 PM
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Are you saying all my servers
,
and project communities, they should understand a proper presentation of
costs, risks, expected outcomes, etc.
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:44 AM
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yeah
, January 24, 2002 8:29 AM
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Kim,
A server is only worthless after 3 years if the load on it
has outgrown it's capacity, or it's becoming difficult to
maintain the hardware. We have several machines around 5
years old, happily
? Processor cramps?
Memory maxed? Perfmon logs can help here.
But you know that.
William
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From: Kim Schotanus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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mine sure
useful for a host of other functions even if it was spec'ed right and can
still perform the function it was purchased for.
Ed Smits
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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:48 AM
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S don't tell anyone. I run my Exchange5.5 backups using NTBackup
on a P166 w/ 32MB RAM.
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From: Ed Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Agreed, just
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S don't tell anyone. I run my Exchange5.5 backups using NTBackup
on a P166 w/ 32MB RAM.
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From: Ed Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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S don't tell anyone. I run my Exchange5.5 backups using NTBackup
on a P166 w/ 32MB RAM.
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From: Ed Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mine tend to get replaced when they crash and not a minute before. We have
the Iron Gauntlet of Purchasing here too.
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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:00 AM
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I run SMS on a dual p-180!! It's over 5 years old but I don't want to
replace it; he runs like a champ.
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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:55 AM
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24, 2002 8:25 AM
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Are you saying all my servers are worthless?
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From: Kim Schotanus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:59 AM
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Plan for three years. Consider anything beyond that to be gravy.
Accountants should understand the concept of depreciation and useful life.
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:45 AM
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Subject: RE: average lifespan server
I think we're talking about worthless from an accounting perspective.
Most asset accounting methods consider a depreciation scale of 3 years for
most computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:34 AM
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Subject: RE: average lifespan server
Yes
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