RE: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Kennedy, Jim]

You are RFC compliant. Earthlink is not RFC compliant and what they are doing 
clearly not. But that is what they do. AOL used to do it to back in the day 
when they had a rabid anti spam guy there. He was cool at times, he carried a 
big stick and when he whacked another ISP for being spam friendly it hurt.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Mayo, Bill
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:51 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

I’m not sure I understand your question. The load balancing I am referring to 
is different internet service providers. Those providers are giving us 2 
different IP spaces.

I am not completely certain that we are not compliant with what it is saying in 
the article, because our PTR records are correct. It doesn’t state the method 
to use and the one Jim described is not looking up a PTR record (or at least 
not as I am understanding it).  I also note that it says “However, if the 
verification fails, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message on that 
basis.”

I appreciate all the dialog.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:35 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

If you are load balancing, why are you advertising two different IPs?  I think 
what Jim Kennedy has honed-in on is correct, and that the issue is likely 
HELO/EHLO checking if your PTR records check out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-spam_techniques#Strict_enforcement_of_RFC_standards
 (HELO/EHLO checking – RFC 5321)


--
Espi


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:45 AM, Mayo, Bill 
<bill.m...@pittcountync.gov<mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov>> wrote:
I told Earthlink that we had 2 different IP’s for the mail server, and that we 
had seen rejections from both. He asked for the first IP, which I gave him. He 
then went to mxtoolbox.com<http://mxtoolbox.com> and looked up the domain name. 
It returned a different IP than the one I gave him and he suggested that was an 
issue. I told him that was the other IP and that they were load-balanced; that 
at any given time an A record lookup would return one or the other. That said, 
the reverse DNS (PTR) record for each of the IP’s is correct. He told me that 
he didn’t know what load balancing meant and that he would have to talk to 
someone else to see what could be done.

I am happy to admit I might have some misunderstandings about DNS, but I don’t 
think that having multiple A records for a given domain name is unusual. I 
therefore assume they wouldn’t actually try to confirm legitimacy by doing an A 
lookup and comparing that to the IP. I do want to be clear that he didn’t 
explicitly say that was the problem. I did try to point out that their error 
message complained about a missing or mismatched PTR record, and I believe that 
is all correct.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:08 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

I’m sorry, I can’t follow your logic. It seems to fall apart in the sentence 
beginning “What EarthLink seems…” Could you be a bit more concrete please?

In general, I agree with Micheal – you shouldn’t have a PTR mismatch, but 
that’s not what I get out of your explanation.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:46 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

My attempts at postmas...@earthlink.net<mailto:postmas...@earthlink.net> and 
trou...@earthlink.net<mailto:trou...@earthlink.net> did not work, so I tried 
the Twitter route. It took a while, but I did ultimately get a response today 
where they gave me a phone number to call. So, thanks to Michael and everyone 
else that responded. That said, based on the conversation that I had, I would 
appreciate a reality check.

We have 2 different ISPs and load balance outbound SMTP connections, as well as 
inbound DNS queries. So, we basically have 2 different IP’s that are used at 
the edge. We have an MX record that points to the domain name. DNS lookups to 
that domain name will return one of the 2 IP’s. Both of those IP’s will reverse 
lookup to the domain name. The HELO/EHLO greeting from the server gives the 
same domain name as the MX record. Additionally, we have an SPF record that 
indicates both of those IP’s.  What Earthlink seems to be initially suggesting 
is that they are doing an A record lookup of the 

RE: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Mayo, Bill]

Yes, several times through the process of troubleshooting this. There was a 
point where the firewall was doing esmtp filtering and X’ing out the domain 
name in the EHLO message; that was corrected.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:22 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

Have you reviewed this?

https://mxtoolbox.com/domain/pittcountync.gov/

Earlier, it was showing that you had an "SMTP Banner Mismatch".  Many anti-spam 
mechanisms will flag or outright block on this.

Many RFCs say that a serever MUST NOT refuse to accept blah blah blah.   That's 
where anti-spam policies come in.  Its not the server blocking; its the 
anti-spam mechanism.

--
Espi


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Mayo, Bill 
<bill.m...@pittcountync.gov<mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov>> wrote:
I’m not sure I understand your question. The load balancing I am referring to 
is different internet service providers. Those providers are giving us 2 
different IP spaces.

I am not completely certain that we are not compliant with what it is saying in 
the article, because our PTR records are correct. It doesn’t state the method 
to use and the one Jim described is not looking up a PTR record (or at least 
not as I am understanding it).  I also note that it says “However, if the 
verification fails, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message on that 
basis.”

I appreciate all the dialog.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:35 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

If you are load balancing, why are you advertising two different IPs?  I think 
what Jim Kennedy has honed-in on is correct, and that the issue is likely 
HELO/EHLO checking if your PTR records check out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-spam_techniques#Strict_enforcement_of_RFC_standards
 (HELO/EHLO checking – RFC 5321)


--
Espi


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:45 AM, Mayo, Bill 
<bill.m...@pittcountync.gov<mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov>> wrote:
I told Earthlink that we had 2 different IP’s for the mail server, and that we 
had seen rejections from both. He asked for the first IP, which I gave him. He 
then went to mxtoolbox.com<http://mxtoolbox.com> and looked up the domain name. 
It returned a different IP than the one I gave him and he suggested that was an 
issue. I told him that was the other IP and that they were load-balanced; that 
at any given time an A record lookup would return one or the other. That said, 
the reverse DNS (PTR) record for each of the IP’s is correct. He told me that 
he didn’t know what load balancing meant and that he would have to talk to 
someone else to see what could be done.

I am happy to admit I might have some misunderstandings about DNS, but I don’t 
think that having multiple A records for a given domain name is unusual. I 
therefore assume they wouldn’t actually try to confirm legitimacy by doing an A 
lookup and comparing that to the IP. I do want to be clear that he didn’t 
explicitly say that was the problem. I did try to point out that their error 
message complained about a missing or mismatched PTR record, and I believe that 
is all correct.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:08 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

I’m sorry, I can’t follow your logic. It seems to fall apart in the sentence 
beginning “What EarthLink seems…” Could you be a bit more concrete please?

In general, I agree with Micheal – you shouldn’t have a PTR mismatch, but 
that’s not what I get out of your explanation.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:46 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

My attempts at postmas...@earthlink.net<mailto:postmas...@earthlink.net> and 
trou...@earthlink.net<mailto:trou...@earthlink.net> did not work, so I tried 
the Twitter route. It took a while, but I did ultimately get a response today 
where they gave me a phone number to call. So, thanks to Michael and everyone 
else that responded. That said, based on the conversation that I had, I would 
appreciate a reality check.

We have 2 different ISPs and load balanc

Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Have you reviewed this?

https://mxtoolbox.com/domain/pittcountync.gov/


Earlier, it was showing that you had an "SMTP Banner Mismatch".  Many
anti-spam mechanisms will flag or outright block on this.

Many RFCs say that a serever MUST NOT refuse to accept blah blah blah.
 That's where anti-spam policies come in.  Its not the server blocking; its
the anti-spam mechanism.

--
Espi


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Mayo, Bill <bill.m...@pittcountync.gov>
wrote:

> I’m not sure I understand your question. The load balancing I am referring
> to is different internet service providers. Those providers are giving us 2
> different IP spaces.
>
>
>
> I am not completely certain that we are not compliant with what it is
> saying in the article, because our PTR records are correct. It doesn’t
> state the method to use and the one Jim described is not looking up a PTR
> record (or at least not as I am understanding it).  I also note that it
> says “However, if the verification fails, the server MUST NOT refuse to
> accept a message on that basis.”
>
>
>
> I appreciate all the dialog.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:35 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> If you are load balancing, why are you advertising two different IPs?  I
> think what Jim Kennedy has honed-in on is correct, and that the issue is
> likely HELO/EHLO checking if your PTR records check out.
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-spam_techniques#Strict_
> enforcement_of_RFC_standards (HELO/EHLO checking – RFC 5321)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:45 AM, Mayo, Bill <bill.m...@pittcountync.gov>
> wrote:
>
> I told Earthlink that we had 2 different IP’s for the mail server, and
> that we had seen rejections from both. He asked for the first IP, which I
> gave him. He then went to mxtoolbox.com and looked up the domain name. It
> returned a different IP than the one I gave him and he suggested that was
> an issue. I told him that was the other IP and that they were
> load-balanced; that at any given time an A record lookup would return one
> or the other. That said, the reverse DNS (PTR) record for each of the IP’s
> is correct. He told me that he didn’t know what load balancing meant and
> that he would have to talk to someone else to see what could be done.
>
>
>
> I am happy to admit I might have some misunderstandings about DNS, but I
> don’t think that having multiple A records for a given domain name is
> unusual. I therefore assume they wouldn’t actually try to confirm
> legitimacy by doing an A lookup and comparing that to the IP. I do want to
> be clear that he didn’t explicitly say that was the problem. I did try to
> point out that their error message complained about a missing or mismatched
> PTR record, and I believe that is all correct.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael B. Smith
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:08 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> I’m sorry, I can’t follow your logic. It seems to fall apart in the
> sentence beginning “What EarthLink seems…” Could you be a bit more concrete
> please?
>
>
>
> In general, I agree with Micheal – you shouldn’t have a PTR mismatch, but
> that’s not what I get out of your explanation.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mayo, Bill
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:46 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> My attempts at postmas...@earthlink.net and trou...@earthlink.net did not
> work, so I tried the Twitter route. It took a while, but I did ultimately
> get a response today where they gave me a phone number to call. So, thanks
> to Michael and everyone else that responded. That said, based on the
> conversation that I had, I would appreciate a reality check.
>
>
>
> We have 2 different ISPs and load balance outbound SMTP connections, as
> well as inbound DNS queries. So, we basically have 2 different IP’s that
> are used at the edge. We have an MX record that points to the domain name.
> DNS lookups to that domain name will return one of the 2 IP’s. Both of
> those IP’s will reverse lookup to the domain name. The HELO/EHLO greeting
> from the server gives the same domain name as the MX record. Additionally,
&g

RE: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Mayo, Bill]

I’m not sure I understand your question. The load balancing I am referring to 
is different internet service providers. Those providers are giving us 2 
different IP spaces.

I am not completely certain that we are not compliant with what it is saying in 
the article, because our PTR records are correct. It doesn’t state the method 
to use and the one Jim described is not looking up a PTR record (or at least 
not as I am understanding it).  I also note that it says “However, if the 
verification fails, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message on that 
basis.”

I appreciate all the dialog.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:35 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

If you are load balancing, why are you advertising two different IPs?  I think 
what Jim Kennedy has honed-in on is correct, and that the issue is likely 
HELO/EHLO checking if your PTR records check out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-spam_techniques#Strict_enforcement_of_RFC_standards
 (HELO/EHLO checking – RFC 5321)


--
Espi


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:45 AM, Mayo, Bill 
<bill.m...@pittcountync.gov<mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov>> wrote:
I told Earthlink that we had 2 different IP’s for the mail server, and that we 
had seen rejections from both. He asked for the first IP, which I gave him. He 
then went to mxtoolbox.com<http://mxtoolbox.com> and looked up the domain name. 
It returned a different IP than the one I gave him and he suggested that was an 
issue. I told him that was the other IP and that they were load-balanced; that 
at any given time an A record lookup would return one or the other. That said, 
the reverse DNS (PTR) record for each of the IP’s is correct. He told me that 
he didn’t know what load balancing meant and that he would have to talk to 
someone else to see what could be done.

I am happy to admit I might have some misunderstandings about DNS, but I don’t 
think that having multiple A records for a given domain name is unusual. I 
therefore assume they wouldn’t actually try to confirm legitimacy by doing an A 
lookup and comparing that to the IP. I do want to be clear that he didn’t 
explicitly say that was the problem. I did try to point out that their error 
message complained about a missing or mismatched PTR record, and I believe that 
is all correct.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:08 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

I’m sorry, I can’t follow your logic. It seems to fall apart in the sentence 
beginning “What EarthLink seems…” Could you be a bit more concrete please?

In general, I agree with Micheal – you shouldn’t have a PTR mismatch, but 
that’s not what I get out of your explanation.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:46 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

My attempts at postmas...@earthlink.net<mailto:postmas...@earthlink.net> and 
trou...@earthlink.net<mailto:trou...@earthlink.net> did not work, so I tried 
the Twitter route. It took a while, but I did ultimately get a response today 
where they gave me a phone number to call. So, thanks to Michael and everyone 
else that responded. That said, based on the conversation that I had, I would 
appreciate a reality check.

We have 2 different ISPs and load balance outbound SMTP connections, as well as 
inbound DNS queries. So, we basically have 2 different IP’s that are used at 
the edge. We have an MX record that points to the domain name. DNS lookups to 
that domain name will return one of the 2 IP’s. Both of those IP’s will reverse 
lookup to the domain name. The HELO/EHLO greeting from the server gives the 
same domain name as the MX record. Additionally, we have an SPF record that 
indicates both of those IP’s.  What Earthlink seems to be initially suggesting 
is that they are doing an A record lookup of the domain name and comparing that 
to the connecting IP address (which seems contrary to the error message). In 
our setup, this will not always be a match. I can understand that they would do 
a reverse DNS on the IP to make sure it matches the HELO/EHLO greeting, and I 
can understand that they might also do an SPF and/or MX lookup to make sure 
that matches. I don’t understand doing a forward lookup and comparing that to 
the IP, since I don’t think that having multiple A records for a given domain 
name is particularly uncommon. Is w

Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

If you are load balancing, why are you advertising two different IPs?  I
think what Jim Kennedy has honed-in on is correct, and that the issue is
likely HELO/EHLO checking if your PTR records check out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-spam_techniques#Strict_enforcement_of_RFC_standards
(HELO/EHLO checking – RFC 5321)



--
Espi


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:45 AM, Mayo, Bill 
wrote:

> I told Earthlink that we had 2 different IP’s for the mail server, and
> that we had seen rejections from both. He asked for the first IP, which I
> gave him. He then went to mxtoolbox.com and looked up the domain name. It
> returned a different IP than the one I gave him and he suggested that was
> an issue. I told him that was the other IP and that they were
> load-balanced; that at any given time an A record lookup would return one
> or the other. That said, the reverse DNS (PTR) record for each of the IP’s
> is correct. He told me that he didn’t know what load balancing meant and
> that he would have to talk to someone else to see what could be done.
>
>
>
> I am happy to admit I might have some misunderstandings about DNS, but I
> don’t think that having multiple A records for a given domain name is
> unusual. I therefore assume they wouldn’t actually try to confirm
> legitimacy by doing an A lookup and comparing that to the IP. I do want to
> be clear that he didn’t explicitly say that was the problem. I did try to
> point out that their error message complained about a missing or mismatched
> PTR record, and I believe that is all correct.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael B. Smith
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:08 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> I’m sorry, I can’t follow your logic. It seems to fall apart in the
> sentence beginning “What EarthLink seems…” Could you be a bit more concrete
> please?
>
>
>
> In general, I agree with Micheal – you shouldn’t have a PTR mismatch, but
> that’s not what I get out of your explanation.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mayo, Bill
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:46 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> My attempts at postmas...@earthlink.net and trou...@earthlink.net did not
> work, so I tried the Twitter route. It took a while, but I did ultimately
> get a response today where they gave me a phone number to call. So, thanks
> to Michael and everyone else that responded. That said, based on the
> conversation that I had, I would appreciate a reality check.
>
>
>
> We have 2 different ISPs and load balance outbound SMTP connections, as
> well as inbound DNS queries. So, we basically have 2 different IP’s that
> are used at the edge. We have an MX record that points to the domain name.
> DNS lookups to that domain name will return one of the 2 IP’s. Both of
> those IP’s will reverse lookup to the domain name. The HELO/EHLO greeting
> from the server gives the same domain name as the MX record. Additionally,
> we have an SPF record that indicates both of those IP’s.  What Earthlink
> seems to be initially suggesting is that they are doing an A record lookup
> of the domain name and comparing that to the connecting IP address (which
> seems contrary to the error message). In our setup, this will not always be
> a match. I can understand that they would do a reverse DNS on the IP to
> make sure it matches the HELO/EHLO greeting, and I can understand that they
> might also do an SPF and/or MX lookup to make sure that matches. I don’t
> understand doing a forward lookup and comparing that to the IP, since I
> don’t think that having multiple A records for a given domain name is
> particularly uncommon. Is what they are suggesting a legitimate issue?
>
>
>
> Bill Mayo
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Michael B.
> Smith
> *Sent:* Friday, February 02, 2018 10:49 AM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> Twitter shame them. @Earthlink and @weCareEarthlink
>
>
>
> And yes, I’m completely serious.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mayo, Bill
> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2018 10:16 AM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> We are having emails sent to Earthlink being intermittently rejected with
> the reason “550 ERROR: No or mismatched reverse DNS (PTR) entries”. We have
> done quite a bit of troubleshooting on this, and the problem does not
> appear to be on our end. I actually have logs that show 2 consecutive
> messages where the first 

Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

IMHO, yes.  You should not have a PTR mismatch. This is a very basic
anti-spam check.

--
Espi


On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Mayo, Bill 
wrote:

> My attempts at postmas...@earthlink.net and trou...@earthlink.net did not
> work, so I tried the Twitter route. It took a while, but I did ultimately
> get a response today where they gave me a phone number to call. So, thanks
> to Michael and everyone else that responded. That said, based on the
> conversation that I had, I would appreciate a reality check.
>
>
>
> We have 2 different ISPs and load balance outbound SMTP connections, as
> well as inbound DNS queries. So, we basically have 2 different IP’s that
> are used at the edge. We have an MX record that points to the domain name.
> DNS lookups to that domain name will return one of the 2 IP’s. Both of
> those IP’s will reverse lookup to the domain name. The HELO/EHLO greeting
> from the server gives the same domain name as the MX record. Additionally,
> we have an SPF record that indicates both of those IP’s.  What Earthlink
> seems to be initially suggesting is that they are doing an A record lookup
> of the domain name and comparing that to the connecting IP address (which
> seems contrary to the error message). In our setup, this will not always be
> a match. I can understand that they would do a reverse DNS on the IP to
> make sure it matches the HELO/EHLO greeting, and I can understand that they
> might also do an SPF and/or MX lookup to make sure that matches. I don’t
> understand doing a forward lookup and comparing that to the IP, since I
> don’t think that having multiple A records for a given domain name is
> particularly uncommon. Is what they are suggesting a legitimate issue?
>
>
>
> Bill Mayo
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael B. Smith
> *Sent:* Friday, February 02, 2018 10:49 AM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> Twitter shame them. @Earthlink and @weCareEarthlink
>
>
>
> And yes, I’m completely serious.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mayo, Bill
> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2018 10:16 AM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> We are having emails sent to Earthlink being intermittently rejected with
> the reason “550 ERROR: No or mismatched reverse DNS (PTR) entries”. We have
> done quite a bit of troubleshooting on this, and the problem does not
> appear to be on our end. I actually have logs that show 2 consecutive
> messages where the first one is accepted and the second one rejected. I
> also see “421 Load too high” messages in the log from Earthlink when these
> happen.
>
>
> I am trying to figure out how to contact Earthlink to get some assistance,
> but am striking out with how to contact them. The have a special page if
> you are getting a “blocked by EarthLink” response, but that doesn’t apply
> here. There contact page has chat support that requires you to provide an
> Earthlink account. Does anybody know how to get in touch with someone at
> Earthlink that could actually help with this problem?
>
>
>
> Bill Mayo
>

RE: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Michael B. Smith]

Yep. I even get responses on twitter from customer support people when I’m not 
looking for support – just out for a normal rant. ☺

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 11:22 AM
To: Exchange
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

The people on social media are more worried about the visibility of the issue, 
given its publicity...


Regards,

 ASB


On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Steve Ens 
<stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I find it interesting that when you email a company about an issue it can take 
forever to get a response (never mind a phone message), but when you tweet 
something, you most often get instant response time.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 9:55 AM Michael B. Smith 
<mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
Twitter shame them. @Earthlink and @weCareEarthlink

And yes, I’m completely serious.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:16 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Earthlink Contact?


We are having emails sent to Earthlink being intermittently rejected with the 
reason “550 ERROR: No or mismatched reverse DNS (PTR) entries”. We have done 
quite a bit of troubleshooting on this, and the problem does not appear to be 
on our end. I actually have logs that show 2 consecutive messages where the 
first one is accepted and the second one rejected. I also see “421 Load too 
high” messages in the log from Earthlink when these happen.

I am trying to figure out how to contact Earthlink to get some assistance, but 
am striking out with how to contact them. The have a special page if you are 
getting a “blocked by EarthLink” response, but that doesn’t apply here. There 
contact page has chat support that requires you to provide an Earthlink 
account. Does anybody know how to get in touch with someone at Earthlink that 
could actually help with this problem?



Bill Mayo

[https://my-email-signature.link/signature.gif?u=162639=17239149=fd81fe876cebbf6eb30f82e72abeadae4aae81a41be3595e0c76ca7a30994025]

RE: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Maglinger, Paul]

We’ve known that for… let’s see… almost 2 years now?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:01 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

I find it interesting that when you email a company about an issue it can take 
forever to get a response (never mind a phone message), but when you tweet 
something, you most often get instant response time.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 9:55 AM Michael B. Smith 
<mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
Twitter shame them. @Earthlink and @weCareEarthlink

And yes, I’m completely serious.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:16 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Earthlink Contact?


We are having emails sent to Earthlink being intermittently rejected with the 
reason “550 ERROR: No or mismatched reverse DNS (PTR) entries”. We have done 
quite a bit of troubleshooting on this, and the problem does not appear to be 
on our end. I actually have logs that show 2 consecutive messages where the 
first one is accepted and the second one rejected. I also see “421 Load too 
high” messages in the log from Earthlink when these happen.

I am trying to figure out how to contact Earthlink to get some assistance, but 
am striking out with how to contact them. The have a special page if you are 
getting a “blocked by EarthLink” response, but that doesn’t apply here. There 
contact page has chat support that requires you to provide an Earthlink 
account. Does anybody know how to get in touch with someone at Earthlink that 
could actually help with this problem?



Bill Mayo

Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Andrew S. Baker]

The people on social media are more worried about the visibility of the
issue, given its publicity...

Regards,

 *ASB*



On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> I find it interesting that when you email a company about an issue it can
> take forever to get a response (never mind a phone message), but when you
> tweet something, you most often get instant response time.
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 9:55 AM Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
>> Twitter shame them. @Earthlink and @weCareEarthlink
>>
>>
>>
>> And yes, I’m completely serious.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
>> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Mayo, Bill
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2018 10:16 AM
>> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
>> *Subject:* [Exchange] Earthlink Contact?
>>
>>
>>
>> We are having emails sent to Earthlink being intermittently rejected with
>> the reason “550 ERROR: No or mismatched reverse DNS (PTR) entries”. We have
>> done quite a bit of troubleshooting on this, and the problem does not
>> appear to be on our end. I actually have logs that show 2 consecutive
>> messages where the first one is accepted and the second one rejected. I
>> also see “421 Load too high” messages in the log from Earthlink when these
>> happen.
>>
>>
>> I am trying to figure out how to contact Earthlink to get some
>> assistance, but am striking out with how to contact them. The have a
>> special page if you are getting a “blocked by EarthLink” response, but that
>> doesn’t apply here. There contact page has chat support that requires you
>> to provide an Earthlink account. Does anybody know how to get in touch with
>> someone at Earthlink that could actually help with this problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Mayo
>>
>

Re: [Exchange] RE: Earthlink Contact?

[Steve Ens]

I find it interesting that when you email a company about an issue it can
take forever to get a response (never mind a phone message), but when you
tweet something, you most often get instant response time.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 9:55 AM Michael B. Smith 
wrote:

> Twitter shame them. @Earthlink and @weCareEarthlink
>
>
>
> And yes, I’m completely serious.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Mayo, Bill
> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2018 10:16 AM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] Earthlink Contact?
>
>
>
> We are having emails sent to Earthlink being intermittently rejected with
> the reason “550 ERROR: No or mismatched reverse DNS (PTR) entries”. We have
> done quite a bit of troubleshooting on this, and the problem does not
> appear to be on our end. I actually have logs that show 2 consecutive
> messages where the first one is accepted and the second one rejected. I
> also see “421 Load too high” messages in the log from Earthlink when these
> happen.
>
>
> I am trying to figure out how to contact Earthlink to get some assistance,
> but am striking out with how to contact them. The have a special page if
> you are getting a “blocked by EarthLink” response, but that doesn’t apply
> here. There contact page has chat support that requires you to provide an
> Earthlink account. Does anybody know how to get in touch with someone at
> Earthlink that could actually help with this problem?
>
>
>
> Bill Mayo
>