RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Sadler
Are you talking of the Exchange Agent from NAV or the NAV Product for
virus protection?

If you are talking about the Exchange Agent, it could be that your
definitions file has been corrupted.  Try to do a liveupdate again.  If
that doesn't work, then attempt to retrieve the latest def. file
manually and place it in it's proper place.

If this doesn't work, it's time to call Symantec for more support than
can be brought on an Exchange List.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for
Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  It
has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it started
spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over and over:

NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)



NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)


I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server (running
on a different machine) that I believe were just a side effect of the
NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from yesterday 6-1-2003
rev2.  I have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever
couple of days) but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the
errors are occurring about every second while the NAV service is
running.  I stopped NAV for now and have not seen any errors in the
event log for about 15 minutes now (including blackberry).

Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV
running again??

Tom

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Couch, Nate
I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for
 Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  It
 has
 been running fine for months without problems.  Today it started spewing
 the
 two following errors to the screen over and over and over:
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
 
 
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
 
 
 I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server (running on
 a
 different machine) that I believe were just a side effect of the NAV
 broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2.
 I
 have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days)
 but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the errors are occurring
 about every second while the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for
 now
 and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now
 (including blackberry).
 
 Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV
 running
 again??
 
 Tom
 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Tom,

We have the same setup here that you do.  

1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.

2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.

HTH...let us know what worked.

Jim Blunt
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
 Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  
 It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
 started spewing the
 two following errors to the screen over and over and over:
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
 
 
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
 
 
 I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
 (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
 effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
 yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I
 have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days)
 but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the errors are occurring
 about every second while the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for
 now
 and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now
 (including blackberry).
 
 Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV 
 running again??
 
 Tom
 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Alverson, Tom
Thanks for all the replies.  

I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors as soon
as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was having trouble
mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in the same
orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was causing NAV to
freak.

I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them right
away because they were the same.  I went ahead and ran the updater (the
exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest definitions
directories and deleted a few files that were older than the definitions.
Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory during an
update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I started the service
NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated directory and hasn't
complained yet.  

Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either the
definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was causing nav
to crash.

Tom 


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Tom,

We have the same setup here that you do.  

1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.

2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.

HTH...let us know what worked.

Jim Blunt
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
 Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  
 It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
 started spewing the
 two following errors to the screen over and over and over:
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
 
 
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
 
 
 I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
 (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
 effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
 yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I
 have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days)
 but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the errors are occurring
 about every second while the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for
 now
 and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now
 (including blackberry).
 
 Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV 
 running again??
 
 Tom
 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Alverson, Tom
It's doing it again...

After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me the
error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving me
the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  I
guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  Symantec
will probably have newer definitions available by then. 


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Thanks for all the replies.  

I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors as soon
as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was having trouble
mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in the same
orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was causing NAV to
freak.

I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them right
away because they were the same.  I went ahead and ran the updater (the
exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest definitions
directories and deleted a few files that were older than the definitions.
Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory during an
update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I started the service
NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated directory and hasn't
complained yet.  

Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either the
definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was causing nav
to crash.

Tom 


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Tom,

We have the same setup here that you do.  

1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.

2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.

HTH...let us know what worked.

Jim Blunt
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
 Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.
 It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
 started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over 
 and over:
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
 
 
 
 NAVEVAPI error
 NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
 
 Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
 
 (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
 
 
 I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
 (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
 effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
 yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I have seen these navevapi.dll errors 
 sporadically (one ever couple of days) but they did not seem to cause 
 any problems.  Now the errors are occurring about every second while 
 the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for now and have not seen 
 any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now (including 
 blackberry).
 
 Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV 
 running again??
 
 Tom
 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Couch, Nate
What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 

Nate

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 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 It's doing it again...
 
 After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me the
 error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
 me
 the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  I
 guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  Symantec
 will probably have newer definitions available by then. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Thanks for all the replies.  
 
 I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors as
 soon
 as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was having
 trouble
 mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in the same
 orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was causing NAV to
 freak.
 
 I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them
 right
 away because they were the same.  I went ahead and ran the updater (the
 exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest definitions
 directories and deleted a few files that were older than the definitions.
 Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory during
 an
 update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I started the
 service
 NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated directory and hasn't
 complained yet.  
 
 Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either the
 definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was causing
 nav
 to crash.
 
 Tom 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Tom,
 
 We have the same setup here that you do.  
 
 1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
 first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
 do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
 via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
 locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.
 
 2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
 file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
 to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
 
 HTH...let us know what worked.
 
 Jim Blunt
 Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 
 I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
 
 1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV
 services.
 I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
 
 2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
 virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
 this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
 reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to
 go
 back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
 Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
 between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.
 
 I hope something here helps.
 
 Nate Couch
 EDS Messaging
 
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  From:   Alverson, Tom
  Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
  Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.
  It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
  started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over 
  and over:
  
  NAVEVAPI error
  NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
  
  A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
  
  (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
  
  
  
  NAVEVAPI error
  NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
  
  Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
  
  (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
  
  
  I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
  (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
  effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
  yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I have seen these navevapi.dll errors 
  sporadically (one ever couple of days) but they did not seem to cause 
  any problems.  Now the errors are occurring about every second while 
  the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for now and have not seen 
  any errors in the event log

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Alverson, Tom
Mapi/vapi 


-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 

Nate

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 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 It's doing it again...
 
 After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me the
 error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
 me
 the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
 I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
 Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Thanks for all the replies.  
 
 I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
 as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
 having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in 
 the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
 causing NAV to freak.
 
 I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them 
 right away because they were the same.  I went ahead and ran the 
 updater (the
 exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
 definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than the
definitions.
 Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
 during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
 started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
 directory and hasn't complained yet.
 
 Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
 the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
 causing nav to crash.
 
 Tom
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Tom,
 
 We have the same setup here that you do.  
 
 1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
 services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
 the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we 
 restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it worked, 
 but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't
restarted...weird.
 
 2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat 
 file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we 
 had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
 
 HTH...let us know what worked.
 
 Jim Blunt
 Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 
 I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
 
 1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
 services.
 I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
 
 2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that 
 the virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing 
 functionality.  When this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from 
 Symantec again and reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it 
 happen where we had to go back one version of the DAT because the 
 current DAT was corrupt from Symantec.  Or at least it was getting 
 corrupted somewhere along the way between Symantec and my server.  
 Either way we had to go back one.
 
 I hope something here helps.
 
 Nate Couch
 EDS Messaging
 
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  From:   Alverson, Tom
  Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV 
  for Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.
  It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
  started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over 
  and over:
  
  NAVEVAPI error
  NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
  
  A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
  
  (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
  
  
  
  NAVEVAPI error
  NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
  
  Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
  
  (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
  
  
  I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
  (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
  effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
  yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I have seen these navevapi.dll errors 
  sporadically (one ever couple of days) but they did not seem to 
  cause any

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Couch, Nate
Have you tried it in MAPI only mode?  Are there any other potentially
related events in the App or Sys logs?

Another possibility looming here is to uninstall and reinstall NAV for
Exchange.



 --
 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 13:45
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 Mapi/vapi 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 
 
 Nate
 
  --
  From:   Alverson, Tom
  Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  It's doing it again...
  
  After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me
 the
  error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
  me
  the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
  I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
  Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Thanks for all the replies.  
  
  I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
  as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
  having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in 
  the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
  causing NAV to freak.
  
  I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them 
  right away because they were the same.  I went ahead and ran the 
  updater (the
  exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
  definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than the
 definitions.
  Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
  during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
  started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
  directory and hasn't complained yet.
  
  Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
  the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
  causing nav to crash.
  
  Tom
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Tom,
  
  We have the same setup here that you do.  
  
  1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
  services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
  the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we 
  restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it worked, 
  but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't
 restarted...weird.
  
  2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat 
  file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we 
  had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
  
  HTH...let us know what worked.
  
  Jim Blunt
  Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  
  I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
  
  1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
  services.
  I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
  
  2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that 
  the virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing 
  functionality.  When this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from 
  Symantec again and reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it 
  happen where we had to go back one version of the DAT because the 
  current DAT was corrupt from Symantec.  Or at least it was getting 
  corrupted somewhere along the way between Symantec and my server.  
  Either way we had to go back one.
  
  I hope something here helps.
  
  Nate Couch
  EDS Messaging
  
   --
   From: Alverson, Tom
   Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
   
   I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV 
   for Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the
 server.
   It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
   started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over 
   and over:
   
   NAVEVAPI error
   NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
   
   A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
   
   (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Steck, Herb
I have run into similar issues with NAV on an Ex5.5 box.  Only way I was able to 
resolve it was to uninstall it, reboot, then reinstall.  If you do this method, it 
might be best to download the av updates as well.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


Have you tried it in MAPI only mode?  Are there any other potentially
related events in the App or Sys logs?

Another possibility looming here is to uninstall and reinstall NAV for
Exchange.



 --
 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 13:45
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 Mapi/vapi 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 
 
 Nate
 
  --
  From:   Alverson, Tom
  Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  It's doing it again...
  
  After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me
 the
  error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
  me
  the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
  I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
  Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Thanks for all the replies.  
  
  I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
  as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
  having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in 
  the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
  causing NAV to freak.
  
  I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them 
  right away because they were the same.  I went ahead and ran the 
  updater (the
  exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
  definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than the
 definitions.
  Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
  during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
  started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
  directory and hasn't complained yet.
  
  Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
  the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
  causing nav to crash.
  
  Tom
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Tom,
  
  We have the same setup here that you do.  
  
  1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
  services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
  the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we 
  restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it worked, 
  but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't
 restarted...weird.
  
  2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat 
  file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we 
  had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
  
  HTH...let us know what worked.
  
  Jim Blunt
  Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  
  I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
  
  1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
  services.
  I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
  
  2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that 
  the virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing 
  functionality.  When this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from 
  Symantec again and reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it 
  happen where we had to go back one version of the DAT because the 
  current DAT was corrupt from Symantec.  Or at least it was getting 
  corrupted somewhere along the way between Symantec and my server.  
  Either way we had to go back one.
  
  I hope something here helps.
  
  Nate Couch
  EDS Messaging
  
   --
   From: Alverson, Tom
   Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
   
   I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

2003-06-03 Thread Alverson, Tom
I haven't run in mapi only mode since that was the only way it had.  I did
find one KB article on symantecs site and they blamed the memory allocation
problem on exchange and just said to run perfwiz.  I guess I'll run perfwiz
tonight after everyone goes home and see if new definitions came out since
then. 


-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Have you tried it in MAPI only mode?  Are there any other potentially
related events in the App or Sys logs?

Another possibility looming here is to uninstall and reinstall NAV for
Exchange.



 --
 From: Alverson, Tom
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 13:45
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
 
 Mapi/vapi
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 
 
 Nate
 
  --
  From:   Alverson, Tom
  Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  It's doing it again...
  
  After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave 
  me
 the
  error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
  me
  the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
  I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
  Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Thanks for all the replies.  
  
  I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
  as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
  having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server 
  in the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
  causing NAV to freak.
  
  I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update 
  them right away because they were the same.  I went ahead and ran 
  the updater (the
  exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
  definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than 
  the
 definitions.
  Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
  during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
  started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
  directory and hasn't complained yet.
  
  Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
  the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
  causing nav to crash.
  
  Tom
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Tom,
  
  We have the same setup here that you do.  
  
  1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
  services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
  the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that 
  we restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it 
  worked, but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service 
  hadn't
 restarted...weird.
  
  2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt 
  .dat file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though 
  where we had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
  
  HTH...let us know what worked.
  
  Jim Blunt
  Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
  
  
  I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
  
  1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
  services.
  I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
  
  2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is 
  that the virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing 
  functionality.  When this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from 
  Symantec again and reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it 
  happen where we had to go back one version of the DAT because the 
  current DAT was corrupt from Symantec.  Or at least it was getting 
  corrupted somewhere along the way between Symantec and my server.
  Either way we had to go back one.
  
  I hope something here helps.
  
  Nate Couch
  EDS Messaging
  
   --
   From: Alverson, Tom
   Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
   
   I am running

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Sorenson

I agree with Tom. We've been using NAV corporate (NAV for Gateways, NAV
Exchange and NAV on the desktops) for a year and have no, none, nada,
zippo outbreaks. It's performed flawlessy through bombardment of the
many viruses of 2001.

Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 So your solution with a few outbreaks is better than NAV?  
 We use NAV and have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch 
 the stuff get ditched
 into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared 
 ground beef
 and you're eating wormy prime rib.
 
 I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, 
 etc.  So far, you make a good case for moving off of your 
 preferred solution.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 I feel the same way. I really researched for the best 
 solution back then, and scanmail it has proven to be 
 great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens etc. We did have a 
 few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being on 
 a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I 
 can build a strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and 
 just do the server/client side solution only, that would be 
 great. I almost want to install it, and have things crash for 
 them not asking me about this...but IM the one that has to 
 recover the thing! :( Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to 
 ground round Your company will be very sorry it made this 
 move. Since you already have Scanmail, there is no reason to 
 dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down on this and fight 
 it all the way to the top.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Hi Folks,
 I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for 
 our company anti-virus protection. This is fine for server 
 and client, but I was also told we would be using NAV's 
 solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
 Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole 
 decision maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. 
 But...I turn to y'all again, as I did a few years ago for 
 info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking what kind 
 of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was 
 chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky 
 product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major 
 from the net..but y'all would know best. 
 Thanks!
 Ron
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread John Matteson

You should really look at the archives for this answer.
All the rants are contained there.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Tom Meunier

It will work fine for you if you learn how to use it.  The rants are
usually from people who don't know how to use the tool.

I was pretty unhappy with my chainsaw, too, until I learned to hold by
the correct end.  Until then, it really did a number on me.

Read the readme.txt file, and pay attention to every caveat in it.  All
the rants you find in the archives (that I can recall) are about issues
that are either in the readme.txt or in their knowledge base top ten
questions list.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:28 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


You should really look at the archives for this answer.
All the rants are contained there.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was
also told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I
think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision
maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all
again, as I did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This
time I'm asking what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan
engine that was chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid,
non-flaky product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major
from the net..but y'all would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread bmurphy

Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

PS, another good argument is that it is a good thing to have 2 AV solutions
in place.
NAV on the servers and desktops, Scanmail on the Exch server. Quite often,
one AV program may pick up a virus that the other misses. Plus you get DATs
at different times. Symantec is NOTORIOUSLY slow in posting DAT updates.
Especially in emergency situations, whereas Trend is typically fast. If you
follow the NAV solution, you will may forced to bring email offline while
you wait ALL DAY for that DAT update.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread John Matteson

If you have Scanmail on your servers now, it makes no sense to change to
Groupsucks. As Martin has told you, you got good stuff now, you're going to
get rotten stuff if management keeps on keeping on.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread John Matteson

Kelly would agree with you on that.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Yes, it is great as well. But the question isn't what should he use, it is
should he use NAV instead of the Scanmail he already has.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread bmurphy

Run Sybari on the Exchange Server and Sophos Antivirus on the client side.
Sophos is the fastest I've seen with new updates.  Probably because they are
based in Europe.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Kelly would agree with you on that.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Couch, Nate

ScanMail and Groupshield get my votes.

We are actually trying to get one of our customers off of NAV 2.1 Build 56
(too old to be effective).  One of the major drawbacks with this version is
that in order to block a file of extension type .xxx you actually have to go
into the registry and put an entry there.  Talk about antiquated.  I don't
know how their current version is, but I would check that out to make sure
you are not getting it.  A major pain in the ...


Cheers.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:38
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 Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
 your Exchange Server.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Hi Folks,
 I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
 anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
 told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
 Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
 when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as
 I
 did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
 what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
 chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
 Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
 would know best. 
 Thanks!
 Ron
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ron Grant

I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :(
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Couch, Nate

Agreed.  Why have hamburger when you can have a nice thick slab of roast
beast.  Scanmail is far more Admin friendly as comared to NAV for MSX.

 --
 From: John Matteson
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:40
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 If you have Scanmail on your servers now, it makes no sense to change to
 Groupsucks. As Martin has told you, you got good stuff now, you're going
 to
 get rotten stuff if management keeps on keeping on.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:31 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground
 round
 Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
 Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot
 down
 on this and fight it all the way to the top.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Hi Folks,
 I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
 anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
 told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
 Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
 when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as
 I
 did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
 what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
 chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
 Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
 would know best. 
 Thanks!
 Ron
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Tom Meunier

So your solution with a few outbreaks is better than NAV?  We use NAV
and have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far,
you make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back
then, and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no
bluescreens etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due
to scanmail being on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the
influx. IF I can build a strong enough case against NAV for
scanning...and just do the server/client side solution only, that would
be great. I almost want to install it, and have things crash for them
not asking me about this...but IM the one that has to recover the thing!
:( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground
round Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you
already have Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY
put my foot down on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was
also told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I
think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision
maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all
again, as I did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This
time I'm asking what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan
engine that was chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid,
non-flaky product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major
from the net..but y'all would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Tom...I agree with you.  Same setup, no problems.  In fact, we usually know
about and have .dat file updates in place, before the people across the
street even find out about possible problems...they're running TrendMicro
Scanmail.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


So your solution with a few outbreaks is better than NAV?  We use NAV and
have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far, you
make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ron Grant

It was twice. And I know...twice it too many as well. Both times, there was
user error on my and the helpdesk end...so I can't blame it on scanmail. If
I'm forced to go with NAV, then I will just have to grin and bear it. Who
knows it might turn out to be a chicken fried steak with mashed taters and
green beans for us. Time will tell.  

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

So your solution with a few outbreaks is better than NAV?  We use NAV
and have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far,
you make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back
then, and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no
bluescreens etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due
to scanmail being on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the
influx. IF I can build a strong enough case against NAV for
scanning...and just do the server/client side solution only, that would
be great. I almost want to install it, and have things crash for them
not asking me about this...but IM the one that has to recover the thing!
:( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground
round Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you
already have Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY
put my foot down on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was
also told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I
think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision
maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all
again, as I did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This
time I'm asking what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan
engine that was chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid,
non-flaky product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major
from the net..but y'all would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ron Grant

I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Don Ely

You're running W2K Adv. Server on a P-133???  I seriously doubt that!

D

Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a
warning to others.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ron Grant

Haha! no, everything is on a rack server now..mo gigage processor, and
rammage! This server made all the difference in the world with my
environment. I was giving scanmail a bike to run a car race back then. :)


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

You're running W2K Adv. Server on a P-133???  I seriously doubt that!

D

Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a
warning to others.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Don Ely

A  That, I can see...  :o)

D

Burnout: Attitudes are contagious, mine might kill you. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Haha! no, everything is on a rack server now..mo gigage processor, and
rammage! This server made all the difference in the world with my
environment. I was giving scanmail a bike to run a car race back then. :)


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

You're running W2K Adv. Server on a P-133???  I seriously doubt that!

D

Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a
warning to others.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Then the people across the street don't know WTF they are doing. That is the
only answer.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Tom...I agree with you.  Same setup, no problems.  In fact, we usually know
about and have .dat file updates in place, before the people across the
street even find out about possible problems...they're running TrendMicro
Scanmail.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


So your solution with a few outbreaks is better than NAV?  We use NAV and
have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far, you
make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ron Grant

I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Don Ely

Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ed Premus

I agree that Antigen is better than NAV for Exchange, we have not had any
problems with it for over a year. This is also a test because as of yet I
have been unable to post a question

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Don Ely

We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

::Sputter::

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Don Ely

::High Five Back at ya::

D

Burnout: Attitudes are contagious, mine might kill you. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Everyone should be using something of that sort, we would have a much better
email world that way.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Drewski

There is no Secret Cabal handshake.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Tyranny grows in strength by the oppression of those who dare speak out in
opposition of it.  Rick Watson

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?

D

Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block!
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase)
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think).
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best.
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Doug Hampshire

I think he meant the Secret Cabal handshake. Oh wait, there is no Secret
Cabal.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ron Grant

Oops sorry! Great list Martin! :) I forgot about the first line of Don's
email that gave you credit for it.  The Martin Blackstone list of
attachments to block... If it were a snake it would have bit me..ouch! 

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Of course not.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


There is no Secret Cabal handshake.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Tyranny grows in strength by the oppression of those who dare speak out in
opposition of it.  Rick Watson

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?

D

Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to
talk then into keeping scanmail, and using NAV for servers and clients as a
compromise. If they don't go for it, I will hope for a trouble free system
like Tom and James have(but will keep Scanmail handy just incase) Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think).
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. Thanks! Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

2001-12-28 Thread Ron Grant

Normally, if the handshake to the cable guy has a 20 dollar bill attached to
it, you will get your cable as a secret for freewait..oh,cabal not
cable! Sorry!


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

I think he meant the Secret Cabal handshake. Oh wait, there is no Secret
Cabal.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really