Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-05-01 Thread Phil Pennock via Exim-dev
On 2019-04-28 at 16:42 +0100, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-dev wrote: > Do the DKIM exim experts subscribe to the mailop list ? I do, but I just started a new job and am behind on public mailing-lists. > There is an ongoing discussion on the mai...@mailop.org > about a snafu with DKIM which implic

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-05-01 Thread Graeme Fowler via Exim-dev
On 30 Apr 2019, at 00:03, Jeremy Harris via Exim-dev wrote: > Bzzt. > > Stop right there. > > The ML adds body content. This will invalidate the signature. > > The header thing, even if you do game it, will not help that. *shrug* I was merely explaining the cogent points of the discussion on

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-30 Thread Marc Haber via Exim-dev
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 01:33:09PM -0600, Brielle Bruns via Exim-dev wrote: > Version: 4.92-2~bpo9+1 > > My configuration files are ancient. IIRC, I originally built them from the > debian config back around 2005 or 2006 (We've actually been using exim since > 2003). They got updated over the ye

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Brielle Bruns via Exim-dev
On 4/29/2019 5:00 PM, Jeremy Harris via Exim-dev wrote: You'll get the default headers signed, then. That includes signing the lack-of-presence of a header in the set. However: it's irrelevant. The ML adding a header making the signature bad does not matter. The ML also appends to the body...

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-dev
On 29/04/2019 20:06, Graeme Fowler via Exim-dev wrote: > On 29 Apr 2019, at 19:26, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-dev > wrote: >> I will do so, either here or in that bug, when I can do so without causing >> more heat. > > The gist of the discussion (I’m a mailop subscriber) is manyfold: > > 1. G

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-dev
On 29/04/2019 20:33, Brielle Bruns via Exim-dev wrote: > Heya, original cause of the havoc on mailop here! > > I'll try and answer whatever questions I can.  See below. > > > On 2019-04-29 19:06, Graeme Fowler wrote:> So *either* the > Debian-derived configuration (of which the original poster m

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Brielle Bruns via Exim-dev
Heya, original cause of the havoc on mailop here! I'll try and answer whatever questions I can. See below. On 2019-04-29 19:06, Graeme Fowler wrote:> So *either* the Debian-derived configuration (of which the original poster mentioned they were using unaltered for DKIM purposes, inheriting d

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Simon Arlott via Exim-dev
On 29/04/2019 20:06, Graeme Fowler via Exim-dev wrote: > The gist of the discussion (I’m a mailop subscriber) is manyfold: > 4. Signed messages inbound to mailop.org (and other lists!) from > Debian-derived and other setups using the default macro defined in pdkim.h > can have headers added which

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Graeme Fowler via Exim-dev
On 29 Apr 2019, at 19:26, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-dev wrote: > I will do so, either here or in that bug, when I can do so without causing > more heat. The gist of the discussion (I’m a mailop subscriber) is manyfold: 1. Google accept messages over IPv6 but require stricter verification ove

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-dev
On Sun, 28 Apr 2019, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-dev wrote: Do the DKIM exim experts subscribe to the mailop list ? In https://bugs.exim.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2394 Simon Arlott suggests that the answer is "no". In that case (and especially since the links below are on a server which has an out

Re: [exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-29 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-dev
On 28/04/2019 16:42, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-dev wrote: > Do the DKIM exim experts subscribe to the mailop list ? > > There is an ongoing discussion on the mai...@mailop.org > about a snafu with DKIM which implicates exim and google. > > The original report of the snafu (google rejections cau

[exim-dev] Mailop list: exim and google fighting over DKIM

2019-04-28 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-dev
Do the DKIM exim experts subscribe to the mailop list ? There is an ongoing discussion on the mai...@mailop.org about a snafu with DKIM which implicates exim and google. The original report of the snafu (google rejections caused the list to auto-unsubscribe over a hundred subscribers of the l