Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Am 24.06.22 um 22:45 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users: Best way here is to add your users primary country to the auth_advertise_hosts list. Could be quite a IP list, but you can store it in a file if you want, by using a lookup condition. Then if they travel to a non-approved country,

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Am 24.06.22 um 08:08 schrieb Slavko via Exim-users: That is pretty simple, just add this IP to firewall's DROP. To automatize its banning, use fail2ban. But be aware, that they will often try from other IP soon. I have 100 - 800 different IPs per day, most of them has only one attempt allowed

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Slavko via Exim-users
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 26 Jun 2022 10:41:47 -0400 Viktor Dukhovni via Exim-users napísal: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 04:30:14PM +0200, Slavko via Exim-users wrote: > > > Not MAY, they SHOULD (if they support it), the 587 is as fallback > > for old clients only, the 25/tcp is deprecated for MUAs for > >

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022, Mark Elkins via Exim-users wrote: Seems I need to do more learning On 6/26/22 9:19 AM, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2022, Mark Elkins via Exim-users wrote: Not sure if I'm missing the boat or what but - for one of my users to send email -

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Exim-users
On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 04:30:14PM +0200, Slavko via Exim-users wrote: > > it seems > > there is confusion over the use of this port. I've always assumed > > that some MTA clients may use port 465 - rather than using port 25. > > Not MAY, they SHOULD (if they support it), the 587 is as fallback

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Slavko via Exim-users
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 26 Jun 2022 15:52:56 +0200 Mark Elkins via Exim-users napísal: > urd        465/tcp        smtps ssmtp    # URL Rendesvous Directory > for SSM / smtp protocol over TLS/SSL > igmpv3lite    465/udp        smtps ssmtp    # IGMP over UDP for SSM > > submission    587/tcp             

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Exim-users
On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 03:52:56PM +0200, Mark Elkins via Exim-users wrote: > > I am curious. Why do you not allow your users to user port 465 ? > > RFC 8314 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8314#section-7.3 > > repurposed this as a mail *submission* port with Implicit TLS. > > Reading

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Mark Elkins via Exim-users
I'm very interested in what you are doing. My thinking along country blocking for the submission of email addresses is... Subscribers have their data in a database. They have a properly secured web access system to that database for account management purposes (change their password - etc).

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Mark Elkins via Exim-users
Seems I need to do more learning On 6/26/22 9:19 AM, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2022, Mark Elkins via Exim-users wrote: Not sure if I'm missing the boat or what but - for one of my users to send email - they must use mail Submission port 587 - and nothing

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 26/06/2022 08:19, Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users wrote: [ I should document CVE-2021-38371:  before exim 4.95 exim probably was exposed to a man-in-the  middle attack on STARTTLS when *sending* email, though it  it is not clear how it could have been exploited. Indeed, nobody that I

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Slavko via Exim-users
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 26 Jun 2022 00:00:40 +0200 Kirill Miazine via Exim-users napísal: > According to docs, AuthBL is both: > "AuthBL is basically that: a collection of bots known to use stolen > credentials or authentication bruteforce." Yes, my mistake. I didn't check its docs, only my notes and

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-26 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via Exim-users
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022, Mark Elkins via Exim-users wrote: Not sure if I'm missing the boat or what but - for one of my users to send email - they must use mail Submission port 587 - and nothing else. That's on a server that only listens on port 587. This works fine until a user "shares" their

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-25 Thread Kirill Miazine via Exim-users
• Slavko via Exim-users [2022-06-24 13:24]: > Dňa 24. júna 2022 9:14:41 UTC používateľ Kirill Miazine via Exim-users > napísal: > > >I've found AuthBL from Spamhaus and Abusix to be very useful. > > AFAIK Spamhaus's AuthBL is about hosts, which uses stolen credentials > (to send SPAM), not

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-25 Thread Slavko (tblt) via Exim-users
Dňa 25. júna 2022 15:11:34 UTC používateľ Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users napísal: >They seem to use wordlists to hack the password. Next week will be one year, from distributed attack to my email system starts, and it is still ongoing. The year is enough time to do with (against) it, but of

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-25 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users
Exim-users Skickat: den 25 juni 2022 10:31 Till: 'Mailing List' Ämne: Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic Not sure if I'm missing the boat or what but - for one of my users to send email - they must use mail Submission port 587 - and nothing else. That's on a server that only

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-25 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 24/06/2022 21:45, Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users wrote: Best way here is to add your users primary country to the auth_advertise_hosts list. Could be quite a IP list There exists a DNSBL which converts IPs to countries. -- Cheers, Jeremy -- ## List details at

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-25 Thread Mark Elkins via Exim-users
uni 2022 08:19 Till: 'Mailing List' Ämne: Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic Dňa 23. júna 2022 22:15:48 UTC používateľ Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users napísal: I solved that with: auth_advertise_hosts = 192.168.0.0/16 : 127.0.0.1 : 1 This helps only for single user MTA,

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-24 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users
:19 Till: 'Mailing List' Ämne: Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic Dňa 23. júna 2022 22:15:48 UTC používateľ Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users napísal: >I solved that with: >auth_advertise_hosts = 192.168.0.0/16 : 127.0.0.1 : 1 This helps only for single user MTA, my real

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-24 Thread Slavko via Exim-users
Dňa 24. júna 2022 9:14:41 UTC používateľ Kirill Miazine via Exim-users napísal: >I've found AuthBL from Spamhaus and Abusix to be very useful. AFAIK Spamhaus's AuthBL is about hosts, which uses stolen credentials (to send SPAM), not those attacking AUTH. While i use it in rsdpamd and MX, only

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-24 Thread Kirill Miazine via Exim-users
• Slavko via Exim-users [2022-06-24 06:08]: [...] > That is pretty simple, just add this IP to firewall's DROP. To automatize > its banning, use fail2ban. But be aware, that they will often try from > other IP soon. I have 100 - 800 different IPs per day, most of them > has only one attempt

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-24 Thread Slavko via Exim-users
Dňa 23. júna 2022 22:15:48 UTC používateľ Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users napísal: >I solved that with: >auth_advertise_hosts = 192.168.0.0/16 : 127.0.0.1 : 1 This helps only for single user MTA, my real users connects even from multiple countries... >2022-06-10 23:50:20 SMTP protocol

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-23 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via Exim-users
>>Tedious, isn't it. I get probed by 5000 hosts per day. I've now set fail2ban to "one strike and you're out". I solved that with: auth_advertise_hosts = 192.168.0.0/16 : 127.0.0.1 : 1 Then it doesn't matter if they have the correct password, they wont get access anyways... Looks like this

Re: [exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-23 Thread Julian Bradfield via Exim-users
On 2022-06-23, The Doctor via Exim-users wrote: > Is their a way to close off Port 25 unless you are using SSL? > > Heads up > > The I caught on porn now pay up scandal is back. Did it ever go away? > Further this hackers are maurauding mail servers for usernames > and passwords to relay their

[exim] Closing off Port to non-SSL traffic

2022-06-23 Thread The Doctor via Exim-users
Is their a way to close off Port 25 unless you are using SSL? Heads up The I caught on porn now pay up scandal is back. Further this hackers are maurauding mail servers for usernames and passwords to relay their messages. We all need to closing port 25 to non-SSL traffic. -- Member - Liberal