Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-07-02 Thread Richard James Salts via Exim-users
On 29/06/17 21:59, Lena--- via Exim-users wrote: The Reply-To: header takes an address-list and is interpreted as such, and IIRC used in that way by some mail-clients when subscribed to mailing-lists but wanting personal copies of replies too. So the `rt:` ACL is going to calculate something

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad via Exim-users
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Phil Pennock wrote: > Doing predictable lookups based upon the full email address, not just > the domain, is drastically different from a privacy perspective. This > is the sort of thing which is sensitive metadata with reasonable privacy >

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2017-06-29 at 11:00 +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad via Exim-users wrote: > There are DNS lookups for the sender and recipient domains, and in the > case of spam filtering, there are often additional DNS lookups in > DNSBLs for URIs found in the message content. URIs, is a fair point, but

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2017-06-29 at 10:20 +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad via Exim-users wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Phil Pennock wrote: > > There could stand to be some privacy implications discussion too -- > > you're sending out, over the wire in unencrypted DNS packets, a > > predictable

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Lena--- via Exim-users
> The Reply-To: header takes an address-list and is interpreted as such, > and IIRC used in that way by some mail-clients when subscribed to > mailing-lists but wanting personal copies of replies too. So the `rt:` > ACL is going to calculate something which will emit bogus queries to an >

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 29/06/17 10:00, Jan Ingvoldstad via Exim-users wrote: > Just look at the DNSSEC uptake. DNS over TLS is not going to happen > soon enough to make a difference here. If we never provide the tools, that'll be self-fulfilling. -- Cheers, Jeremy -- ## List details at

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad via Exim-users
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy Harris wrote: > On 28/06/17 20:27, Phil Pennock wrote: >> There could stand to be some privacy implications discussion too -- >> you're sending out, over the wire in unencrypted DNS packets, a >> predictable derivation of the Reply-To:

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 28/06/17 20:27, Phil Pennock wrote: > There could stand to be some privacy implications discussion too -- > you're sending out, over the wire in unencrypted DNS packets, a > predictable derivation of the Reply-To: header received for every email > from a given domain. Perhaps we need

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-29 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad via Exim-users
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Phil Pennock wrote: > There could stand to be some privacy implications discussion too -- > you're sending out, over the wire in unencrypted DNS packets, a > predictable derivation of the Reply-To: header received for every email > from a given

Re: [exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-28 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2017-06-28 at 18:19 +0300, Lena--- via Exim-users wrote: > How to use EBL in Exim config (requires Exim version 4.87 or higher): > https://github.com/Exim/exim/wiki/EBL Looks potentially useful. The Reply-To: header takes an address-list and is interpreted as such, and IIRC used in that way

[exim] EBL: blacklist for email addresses in Reply-To and message bodies

2017-06-28 Thread Lena--- via Exim-users
The purpose of the EBL blacklist is described on http://msbl.org/ebl-purpose.htm I tested EBL since October 2016, today it was declared in public beta: https://spammers.dontlike.us/mailman/private/list/2017-June/010493.html > The Email Blocklist has entered Beta 2, and is now open for testing by