Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-26 Thread Andrew Colin Kissa via Exim-users
> On 18 Nov 2021, at 16:53, Matt Corallo via Exim-users > wrote: > > Same, I'd think, but according to the SpamAssassin folks its incorrect. > According to them, a Received line like the following indicates that the host > was *not* verified, but Exim seems to have fully verified the

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-24 Thread Wolfgang Breyha via Exim-users
On 19/11/2021 00:18, Jeremy Harris via Exim-users wrote: > "Received: " > "${if def:sender_rcvhost {from $sender_rcvhost\n\t}" >    "{${if def:sender_ident {from ${quote_local_part:$sender_ident} }}" > "${if def:sender_helo_name {(helo=$sender_helo_name)\n\t" One thing

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-18 Thread Bill Cole via Exim-users
On 2021-11-18 at 17:16:14 UTC-0500 (Thu, 18 Nov 2021 22:16:14 +) Jeremy Harris via Exim-users is rumored to have said: On 18/11/2021 19:10, Bill Cole via Exim-users wrote: Also welcome, short of a patch, would be clues about how to detect in an Exim-written Received header when a SMTP

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-18 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 18/11/2021 23:05, Bill Cole via Exim-users wrote: Checks of the peer IP against a hostlist item which is a name will cause one, as will matching the host_lookup option or an explicit verify=reverse_host_lookup ACL condition. So, if none of that happens, what will the Received header look

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-18 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 18/11/2021 19:10, Bill Cole via Exim-users wrote: Also welcome, short of a patch, would be clues about how to detect in an Exim-written Received header when a SMTP client IP has no rDNS or the rDNS name doesn't resolve to the client IP. It would be more reliable to interpret an

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-18 Thread Bill Cole via Exim-users
On 2021-11-18 at 09:53:38 UTC-0500 (Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:53:38 -0500) Matt Corallo via Exim-users is rumored to have said: Same, I'd think, but according to the SpamAssassin folks its incorrect. I do not think that anyone involved with the SA project said anything Exim did was "incorrect."

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-18 Thread Matt Corallo via Exim-users
On 11/17/21 11:56, Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users wrote: Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users (Mi 17 Nov 2021 13:17:33 CET): Typo? What do you mean with "sender_rcvhost"? Mea culpa. You're talking about the variable to be expanded inside the Received header. But given this, I still

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-18 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 18/11/2021 14:53, Matt Corallo via Exim-users wrote: Received: from o13.mailer.shopify.com ([149.72.221.62]) by mail.as397444.net with esmtps TLS1.3 id 1mmjFb-0034Ki-02 (envelope-from ) for vmstfp...@mattcorallo.com; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 21:10:54 + Specifically, it seems 

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-17 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users
Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users (Mi 17 Nov 2021 13:17:33 CET): > Typo? What do you mean with "sender_rcvhost"? Mea culpa. You're talking about the variable to be expanded inside the Received header. But given this, I still can't see any issue with the logs you provided. -- Heiko

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-17 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users
Matt Corallo via Exim-users (Di 16 Nov 2021 17:47:22 CET): > Like the title says, for some reason exim 4.94.2-7 (Debian stable) is > refusing to ever expand sender_rcvhost to a verified hostname. The below Typo? What do you mean with "sender_rcvhost"? > shows a simple email inbound from github,

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-16 Thread Bill Cole via Exim-users
On 2021-11-16 at 17:03:14 UTC-0500 (Wed, 17 Nov 2021 01:03:14 +0300) Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users is rumored to have said: On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 03:11:50PM -0500, Matt Corallo via Exim-users wrote: The way I was (apparently incorrectly?) interpreting a similar expansion here is that the

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-16 Thread Matt Corallo via Exim-users
On 11/16/21 17:03, Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 03:11:50PM -0500, Matt Corallo via Exim-users wrote: The way I was (apparently incorrectly?) interpreting a similar expansion here is that the host was not verified via FcRDNS due to the presence of the square

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-16 Thread Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 03:11:50PM -0500, Matt Corallo via Exim-users wrote: > The way I was (apparently incorrectly?) interpreting a similar expansion > here is that the host was not verified via FcRDNS due to the presence of the > square brackets in the parenthetical. Apparently that is the way

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-16 Thread Matt Corallo via Exim-users
On 11/16/21 13:47, Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users wrote: Hello. On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:47:22AM -0500, Matt Corallo via Exim-users wrote: Like the title says, for some reason exim 4.94.2-7 (Debian stable) is refusing to ever expand sender_rcvhost to a verified hostname. Your

Re: [exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-16 Thread Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users
Hello. On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:47:22AM -0500, Matt Corallo via Exim-users wrote: > Like the title says, for some reason exim 4.94.2-7 (Debian stable) is > refusing to ever expand sender_rcvhost to a verified hostname. Your mail passed my relay with Exim 4.94.2-7 (frozen good old version)

[exim] Exim always expands sender_rcvhost to unverified IP

2021-11-16 Thread Matt Corallo via Exim-users
Like the title says, for some reason exim 4.94.2-7 (Debian stable) is refusing to ever expand sender_rcvhost to a verified hostname. The below shows a simple email inbound from github, as well as the relevant DNS traffic from exim to the DNS server (with spamd stopped to ensure we're not