Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Cyborg via Exim-users
Am 26.02.20 um 18:12 schrieb Rory Campbell-Lange via Exim-users: > > We've never had a problem with iPhones and exim. > Apple did cause problems with all sorts of clients and servers(exim,dovecot etc.. ), rangeing from desktop to mobile. In most cases, after a while it corrects itself. best

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 05:48:09PM +0100, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > > Removal of this 2-line banner seems to be a reasonable next step. > > As I already said, I tried to remove the 2-line banner and replace it > with one-line-banner. > No changes in behaviour... OK. You also

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange via Exim-users
On 26/02/20, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users (exim-users@exim.org) wrote: > Meanwhile it works... No idea why... > We didn't changed something in the configuration, just deleted the profile > in iPhone and created it again... Perhaps you saved an outdated server certificate against the

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 26.02.2020 um 17:31 schrieb Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users: > Handshake is definitely completed: last packet from server is > pure Application Data, and its payload length (170) is very close to > 146 bytes of 2-line SMTP banner (it should be slightly greater due to > padding and hmac).

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:27:09PM +, Jeremy Harris via Exim-users wrote: > We're not too much closer. They agreed, during handshake, on a > cipher-suite. We can't actually tell if the handshake completed > (because encryption!) but the packets present make it likely. > The client issued a

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 26.02.2020 13:27, schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: Hi Jeremy, I see that's actually 8465 not 465. I assume real-465 behaves the same? Yes, I wrote 465, but we use 8465, configured as 465... We're not too much closer. They agreed, during handshake, on a cipher-suite. We can't

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 25/02/2020 14:49, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > Am 25.02.2020 14:57, schrieb Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users: > >>  Run traffic analyzer on the server host. >>  Post capture file here if you can't interpret output. > > Here the traffic dump... I see that's actually 8465 not 465.

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 14:57, schrieb Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users: Run traffic analyzer on the server host. Post capture file here if you can't interpret output. Here the traffic dump... Thanks a lot Luca Bertoncello (lucab...@lucabert.de) smtp.pcap Description: application/vnd.tcpdump.pcap

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:11:07AM +0100, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > Any other idea? You were suggested to run traffic analyzer and post capture file to list. -- Eugene Berdnikov -- ## List details at https://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-26 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 16:54, schrieb Graeme Fowler via Exim-users: Hi A quick search (using a popular search engine) for: exim debian stretch "error in the pull function" ...returned a significant number of results, not least of which was:

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 um 19:49 schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: > On 25/02/2020 18:15, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: >> Well, but that cannot be the problem, since the iPhone can communicate >> with Exim using the port 587 and the same configuration... > > In case you really mean "the same"

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 25/02/2020 18:15, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > Well, but that cannot be the problem, since the iPhone can communicate > with Exim using the port 587 and the same configuration... In case you really mean "the same" - no, that is not expected to work. Traditionally 587 is used for

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 um 16:54 schrieb Graeme Fowler via Exim-users: > A quick search (using a popular search engine) for: > > exim debian stretch "error in the pull function" > > ...returned a significant number of results, not least of which was: > >

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 um 17:09 schrieb Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users: > which is fine for ESMTP, but not for SMTP. When your server issues > the banner, it can't know if the client is able to speak/understand > ESMTP. The server can announce it (via "EMSTP" string on the banner) > and the client has

Re: [Exim-users-de] [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users-de
Am 25.02.2020 um 16:54 schrieb Graeme Fowler via Exim-users: > A quick search (using a popular search engine) for: > > exim debian stretch "error in the pull function" > > ...returned a significant number of results, not least of which was: > >

Re: [Exim-users-de] [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users-de
Am 25.02.2020 um 17:09 schrieb Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users: > which is fine for ESMTP, but not for SMTP. When your server issues > the banner, it can't know if the client is able to speak/understand > ESMTP. The server can announce it (via "EMSTP" string on the banner) > and the client has

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users
Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users (Di 25 Feb 2020 16:25:03 CET): > I have the problem with lucabert.de, too, but it is now not interesting, > since it is my private server and no one use iPhone, here... > > > I wouldn't expect all mailclients understanding and handling this well. > And I really

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Graeme Fowler via Exim-users
A quick search (using a popular search engine) for: exim debian stretch "error in the pull function" ...returned a significant number of results, not least of which was: https://lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20180207.150204.600285a6.en.html The fix was to recompile with OpenSSL as the

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Bill Cole via Exim-users
On 25 Feb 2020, at 10:12, Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users wrote: If I check your mail.lucabert.de, I see a multiline response already *before* your server has any idea, if the client would understand it. I wouldn't expect all mailclients understanding and handling this well. This has

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 16:23, schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: Mmm, that incredibly helpful error message from GnuTLS. "An error", wow. I thought so, too... Best guess is that the client closed the connection before the TLS handshake finished. Possibly it doesn't like the set of ciphersuites

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 25/02/2020 14:47, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > 15:42:24 13686 TLS: a client certificate will not be requested. > 15:43:02 13686 LOG: MAIN > 15:43:02 13686   TLS error on connection from [10.0.56.135] > I=[10.0.46.11]:465 (gnutls_handshake): Error in the pull function. Mmm, that

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 16:12, schrieb Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users: Hi Heiko, Can you tell us the IP of your server? Or at least the *complete* response you get using openssl. Well, here is it: depth=2 C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = COMODO CA Limited, CN = COMODO RSA

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via Exim-users
Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users (Di 25 Feb 2020 13:30:55 CET): > > I tried with openssl s_server to my server and to Google, and I see a > difference: > > My server: > > No client certificate CA names sent > Peer signing digest: SHA512 > Server Temp Key: ECDH, P-256, 256 bits … > Can you tell

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 14:44, schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: The main server uses Exim 4.89 from Debian Stretch paket, so I can't update it right now... The server with 4.92.3 is my private server (with Exim compiled). But the problem must be solved on the server with 4.89 as primary target...

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Evgeniy Berdnikov via Exim-users
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 02:14:54PM +0100, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > Am 25.02.2020 14:01, schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: > > Does the phone application provide any diagnostics? > > Unfortunately not... > > Any idea? Run traffic analyzer on the server host. Post capture

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 25/02/2020 13:14, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > 30947 set_process_info: 30947 handling incoming connection from > [10.0.56.135] I=[10.0.46.11]:465 > 30947 host in host_reject_connection? no (option unset) > 30947 host in sender_unqualified_hosts? no (option unset) > 30947 host in

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Am 25.02.2020 14:01, schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users: Hi Jeremy Session tickets are an optional thing in TLS. I doubt that is the problem. This was the only difference betwenn my answer and Google's one... If you run your Exim daemon with debug enabled, what does it show for a

Re: [exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 25/02/2020 12:30, Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users wrote: > I tried with openssl s_server to my server and to Google, and I see a > difference: > You see, on my server there's no "TLS session ticket"... Session tickets are an optional thing in TLS. I doubt that is the problem. If you run

[exim] Problem with iPhone and Exim

2020-02-25 Thread Luca Bertoncello via Exim-users
Hi list! I have a server with Exim 4.89 (I tried with another server with Exim 4.92.3, too. Same problem!). It works with all clients, but not with iPhones... I configured it to listen on port 465 as SMTPs. If I set this port in iPhone, it waits, and waits, and waits... But no SMTP command