Re: [exim] exim4 only queues mails sent by systemd service

2018-10-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman via Exim-users
On 2018-10-16 15:40, Graeme Fowler via Exim-users wrote: > > I agreed that systemd should allow exim to work on current rules. But I > > don know how can I argue to Lennart Poettering to change his mind. > > You can't :) > > What you've shown us is (in my opinion) an incredibly niche case which

Re: [exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Jasen Betts via Exim-users
On 2018-10-15, Brent Clark via Exim-users wrote: > Good day Guys > > I would just like to double check something with the community. > > I would like to ask, how do you guys handle outgoing SPAM queue? We have one of the early routers check for a flag agaisnt the user-id that sent the mail

Re: [exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 16/10/2018 20:42, Jasen Betts via Exim-users wrote: > We have one of the early routers check for a flag agaisnt the user-id that > sent the mail (condition=${lookup...}), when something bad happens > we set the flag and exim delivers all that user-id's mail to >/dev/null In similar vein, one

Re: [exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 16/10/2018 21:58, Christian K via Exim-users wrote: > What about freezing all or the messages in question to pick them apart > and thaw every "good" mail? That works, though it doesn't scale quite so well. -- Cheers, Jeremy -- ## List details at

Re: [exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Christian K via Exim-users
What about freezing all or the messages in question to pick them apart and thaw every "good" mail? Am Di., 16. Okt. 2018 um 22:44 Uhr schrieb Jeremy Harris via Exim-users : > > On 16/10/2018 20:42, Jasen Betts via Exim-users wrote: > > We have one of the early routers check for a flag agaisnt the

Re: [exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Jasen Betts via Exim-users
On 2018-10-16, Christian K via Exim-users wrote: > What about freezing all or the messages in question to pick them apart > and thaw every "good" mail? Usually we have a few thousand emails from the bad account in the queue, and a few thousand from good users and some of them are locked by

Re: [exim] exim4 only queues mails sent by systemd service

2018-10-16 Thread Kamil Jońca via Exim-users
Jeremy Harris via Exim-users writes: [..] > It does seem somewhat... arrogant of systemd to assume that > when a process it has started terminates, any of its children Ahem. :) https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/10299 KJ -- http://wolnelektury.pl/wesprzyj/teraz/ P-K4 -- ## List

Re: [exim] exim4 only queues mails sent by systemd service

2018-10-16 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 16/10/2018 12:44, Kamil Jońca via Exim-users wrote: > Jeremy Harris via Exim-users writes: > > [..] >> It does seem somewhat... arrogant of systemd to assume that >> when a process it has started terminates, any of its children > Ahem. :) > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/10299

Re: [exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Jeremy Harris via Exim-users
On 15/10/2018 11:59, Brent Clark via Exim-users wrote: > The problem is, when Exim is stopped, then other clients app that need > to send mail, cant. > > The question I would like to ask is, what is the correct way to manage > mail in the queue, or if someone can give a suggestion, of removing

Re: [exim] exim4 only queues mails sent by systemd service

2018-10-16 Thread Graeme Fowler via Exim-users
On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:56, Kamil Jońca via Exim-users wrote: > I do not know if it is clear: this is not my words, neither I agreed > with them (please note, that I opened this issue on github.) ...and you have a workaround in systemd via the KillMode switch, or the various timeout options. Or

Re: [exim] exim4 only queues mails sent by systemd service

2018-10-16 Thread Kamil Jońca via Exim-users
Jeremy Harris via Exim-users writes: > On 16/10/2018 12:44, Kamil Jońca via Exim-users wrote: >> Jeremy Harris via Exim-users writes: >> >> [..] >>> It does seem somewhat... arrogant of systemd to assume that >>> when a process it has started terminates, any of its children >> Ahem. :) >> >>

[exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Brent Clark via Exim-users
Good day Guys I would just like to double check something with the community. I would like to ask, how do you guys handle outgoing SPAM queue? So what happens is, we may have a client that runs a website (shared hosting), and say it gets compromised (not the server itself), just the app.

Re: [exim] Handling Spam in outgoing mail queue

2018-10-16 Thread Odhiambo Washington via Exim-users
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 17:12, Brent Clark via Exim-users < exim-users@exim.org> wrote: > Good day Guys > > I would just like to double check something with the community. > > I would like to ask, how do you guys handle outgoing SPAM queue? > > So what happens is, we may have a client that runs a