Re Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I setthedefault editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Mallard
Fredrik Nilsson wrote (in part): > I have made a short list of some useful commands. > WOW, that convinces me, let's see... I want to copy this word so yw, but wait, I have to tell it what word, so Mj on over there near it and then yw and then Mklljjjll on over to where I want i

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread faisal
do you have the least idea where can i find this visual lilo ? - Original Message - From: "Greg Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Mark Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [expert] howdo I single boot? > Well, you've

Re: [expert] Re: KVM Switches & Mouse Problem

2000-08-15 Thread Sevatio Octavio
Thanks John! It appears that my Linsys KVM is not compatitable with linux. But Belkin's line of KVMs are quite linux-friendly from what I've read. Seve >> Original Message << On 8/15/00, 5:49:08 PM, John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: [exper

Re: [expert] ReiserFS causing crash??

2000-08-15 Thread Jeff Groves
Does anyone know how to turn up the debug info on ReiserFS and where it writes the info? At 11:22 PM 8/15/00 +1000, Andrew George wrote: >On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Jeff Groves wrote: > > > I have been running Mandrake 7.1 with ReiserFS and periodically (every 5-6 > > days) the system quits working. >

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set thedefault editor soI can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Tony McGee
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Gavin Clark pushed some tiny letters in this order: > > > -- but don't trash it without having a damn good reason. "It's > > too hard for me" is not a good reason. > > neither is "that's the way we've always done it". > > I'm not saying get rid of it at all, just make some

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I setthedefault editor soI can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Gavin Clark
on 8/14/00 7:43 PM, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: > Gavin Clark wrote: > >>> If it bugs you, don't use it - there are plenty of other character-driven >>> text >>> editors available. >> >> this is backwards, if you know how to use vi or are willing to learn then it >> will be a simple task for you t

Re: [expert] Linux on Compaq Prosignia?

2000-08-15 Thread Christopher Kolar
At 09:23 PM 8/15/2000, dev-nul wrote: >Does anyone have any experience with running Linux on Compaq Prosignia? >Any web sites, etc...? We have been thinking about putting it on a Proliant. One of our guys got this from the Compaq site, http://207.18.199.3/products/servers/linux/OSMatrix1.html

Re: [expert] Time till messages appear.

2000-08-15 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Jason Pierce wrote: > Why does it take so long for messages to be sent to the list? I sent a message over >an hour ago, and it hasn't showed up yet. This has happened to me before too. Are >all messages manually moderated befor being sent to the list or something? > Jaso

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Well...now wait a minute...That's an interesting concept. What it 'that' and how would one do that? Mark > Sorry I misunderstood the post I thought you were looking to boot > into single user mode > > red faced and embarassed. > > David M. Kufta > Konsult Ltd. >

[expert] remove yang@moultonlogistics.com

2000-08-15 Thread Scott Matthews
remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jason Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Time till messages appear. > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Jason Pierce wrote: > > Why d

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set thedefault editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Ron Marriage
It seems everyone has put their 2 cents in so why not me? <2 cents> While my favorite editor is emacs, I have to say that anyone that considers themselves an expert owes it to themselves to learn vi(m). There are times when only it will do the job, partly because it might be the only editor avai

RE: [expert] heartbeat

2000-08-15 Thread Joe M.
<> what is heartbeat and what happens if it errors out. you have a heart attack! sorry for the bad joke >From the Home office of Joe M. If you don't like what I have to say then you should call: 1-800-RTO-CLUE Rent to own your own clue today! <> -Orig

[expert] Linux on Compaq Prosignia?

2000-08-15 Thread /dev/null
Does anyone have any experience with running Linux on Compaq Prosignia? Any web sites, etc...? /dev/null [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set thedefault editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Fredrik Nilsson
There has been so much trashing of vi/vim/gvim of pure ignorance, so I have made a short list of some useful commands. (Press the escape-key in order to get into command mode. ) (There is actually some correlation between keystrokes - commands. ) (q - quit, w - write, d - delete

[expert] Re: KVM Switches & Mouse Problem

2000-08-15 Thread Sevatio Octavio
Yes, the mouse works fine without the KVM device. Seve rharvey wrote: > > does it jump without the linksys device? > - Original Message - > From: "Sevatio Octavio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "rharvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 3:49 PM > Subject: KVM Switches &

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread David M. Kufta
** Reply to message from "David M. Kufta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:24:04 -0400 > >** Reply to message from Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 15 Aug > >2000 18:48:38 -0400 > > > > > >> >"Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Use GRUB. Sorry, cheap shot. You ha

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread David M. Kufta
** Reply to message from Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:48:38 -0400 > >"Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote: > >> > >> Use GRUB. Sorry, cheap shot. You have to have a boot loader, whether it's > >> LILO, GRUB, or some other package. LILO and GRUB don't really care if you >

Re: [expert] Re: KVM Switches & Mouse Problem

2000-08-15 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Yes, the mouse works fine without the KVM device. > I'm using a KVM switch here -- a Belkin Omniview SE and it works fine with my Windows box and my linux box. I've got a true-blue IBM PS/2 keyboard and a Microsoft Intellimouse hooked up to the KVM. It works fine

Re: [expert] Time till messages appear.

2000-08-15 Thread Jason Pierce
I am sending this for the second time now. The message I'm replying to showed up two times, and the one I'm adding to here hasn't showed up(on my end) yet. Can anyone help me know if It is something I'm doing or just the mail server. I checked my sent list and all messages appear to be sent c

Re: [expert] Time till messages appear.

2000-08-15 Thread Jason Pierce
Ok, thats strange, this one appeared almost emmediately, and my last message (a reply to the Vi thread) showed up right after it. Anybody else experienced this? Jason *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 08|15|2000| at 07|23 PM| Jason Pierce wrote: R>Why does it take so long for messag

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Greg Stewart
Well, you've got to have *something* to do the booting...what else would you use? Grub? The new Graphical Lilo (whatever it's called)? They're all basically the same, but like Sarang said in that other e-mail you responded to, you can configure Lilo to go straight through to the boot process witho

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Greg, that sounds like a good problem to have. :) Greg Stewart wrote: > > Well, you've got to have *something* to do the booting...what else would you > use? Grub? The new Graphical Lilo (whatever it's called)? They're all > basically the same, but like Sarang said in that other e-mail you res

Re: Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set thedefault editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Michael R. Batchelor
One person wrote: >Some people missed the points I was making and now I know why Linux is >going to have problems as long as the people who write programs for it >don't drop this geeky attitude. And another wrote: >But, if you don't get them to learn, then they will always need a >tech-support p

[expert] Time till messages appear.

2000-08-15 Thread Jason Pierce
Why does it take so long for messages to be sent to the list? I sent a message over an hour ago, and it hasn't showed up yet. This has happened to me before too. Are all messages manually moderated befor being sent to the list or something? Jason

Re: Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set thedefault editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Jason Pierce
R>You could include a shell script with every distro called R>"run-this-for-a-total-geek-system.sh", make it remove X, KDE and all GUI R>stuff and install the latest version of vim (so they have all the R>features available, wouldn't want even one left out, it has to do You got that backwards. S

RE: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)
Use GRUB. Sorry, cheap shot. You have to have a boot loader, whether it's LILO, GRUB, or some other package. LILO and GRUB don't really care if you are dual-booting 2 operating systems or dual-booting 2 different versions of the Linux kernel. All they care about is disk locations of bootstrap

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Sarang Lakare wrote: > > You can configure LILO to not wait for prompt atall (unless you keep the > left shift key pressed) and that will act as a direct Linux boot! > > -sarang Now there's an idea. that would get the kids around the house a hollerin! :) -- Mark --

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Mark Weaver
"Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote: > > Use GRUB. Sorry, cheap shot. You have to have a boot loader, whether it's > LILO, GRUB, or some other package. LILO and GRUB don't really care if you > are dual-booting 2 operating systems or dual-booting 2 different versions of > the Linux kernel. All the

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Sarang Lakare
You can configure LILO to not wait for prompt atall (unless you keep the left shift key pressed) and that will act as a direct Linux boot! -sarang

Re: [expert] Promise Ultra ATA/100

2000-08-15 Thread Terje Bjerkelia
The problem is solved. I stripped down the kernel to a minimum of options. After that the system booted up with no errors. Thanks for the help. man, 14 aug 2000, skrev du : > There are a number of possible causes depending where exactly the hang is > occurring. [lots of useful info snipped..

[expert] Re: xcdroast

2000-08-15 Thread Rob Morrison
I had the same problem (it sounds like) on a couple of different systems on new installs, one of RedHat 6.2, and one of Mandrake 7.1. I resolved the problem (after much digging through archives of this mailing list, and other resources on the net) by loading the "ide-scsi" module. Not knowing

RE: [expert] sendmail

2000-08-15 Thread Jason Bachman
Hi Ronald, You might need to use a combination of the virtusertable and aliases to generate the e-mail back to the sender. It can be done but may be slightly tricky. You may want to check out http://www.sendmail.org/virtual-hosting.html that may give you an idea. Good Luck! --

Re: [expert] howdo I single boot?

2000-08-15 Thread Jean-Louis Debert
Mark Weaver wrote: > > I've got a question I've been pondering for a while. for the longest time > i've been dual-booting. about a year and a half now, but i've come to the > point where i want to take windows completely of my system. how would I > set Linux up to boot if I didn't need to use LIL

Re: [expert] Sendmail relay confusion

2000-08-15 Thread Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > One other thing, is it worth using FEATURE(rbl)?? > > > IIRC, the "FEATURE(rbl)" means that you will be refusing email from > "known" spam sources and known "open relays." This is a question only > you can answer. Do you want to accept e

Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set thedefault editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Mallard
Thanks, it worked! I put that line in /etc/bashrc at the end, it seemed to make more sense to me since it is the main bash set up file for the system. It's easier for me to remember where it is. I tried typing it in at a shell prompt and it worked OK till I exited the console, so it needs to be

Re: [expert] Sendmail relay confusion

2000-08-15 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, you wrote: > One other thing, is it worth using FEATURE(rbl)?? > IIRC, the "FEATURE(rbl)" means that you will be refusing email from "known" spam sources and known "open relays." This is a question only you can answer. Do you want to accept email from known spam sites and open

[expert] Tar problem :-(

2000-08-15 Thread Joachim Holst (QCS)
Hi ! Sorry to bother this list with my question, but my brain seems to have gone off line :-( I'm playing around with tar a bit and I just can't make it work :-( I would lake to take the output of one command pipe it to the input oftar to genereate a file like test.tar.gz. If I could add a dat

[expert] ReiserFS causing crash??

2000-08-15 Thread Jeff Groves
I have been running Mandrake 7.1 with ReiserFS and periodically (every 5-6 days) the system quits working. It doesn't crash, but I cannot run any new programs. When I try to enter a command on the command line, it never executes or returns (it just hangs). Pressing the 'reset' button is the o

Re: [expert] Nvidea Riva TNT / Diamond Viper 550 installation

2000-08-15 Thread Ian McLeod
Chris, Was it difficult to insall? Did you download the binaries or the source? Which instructions did you follow? I appreciate your help, very much! Regards, Ian Chris Spencer wrote: > > I've installed them. And yes, its a huge difference. Not much difference in 2D, > but watch out if y

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the default editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Ellick Chan
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote: > Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is > suposto be easy for users? It's the unix tradition :) > > Anyone else seen this joke of a program? > Yes, and I use it almost daily > With Vim all you have to do is spend a half hou

Re: [expert] Nvidea Riva TNT / Diamond Viper 550 installation

2000-08-15 Thread Chris Spencer
I've installed them. And yes, its a huge difference. Not much difference in 2D, but watch out if you load up a full-screen 3D OpenGL game! Unreal Tournament is very, very fast with the Nvidia drivers... -Chris On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Hi people, > > Has anyone successfuly installed

Re: [expert] PPP config Linux <-> NT RAS

2000-08-15 Thread Ian McLeod
Thanks Greg! I have emailed Primus to ask them about this, and have also forwarded the request from Mandrake posted on the newsgroup for ISP information to them. The couldn't give a stuff basically, but I am working on it as they are the best priced ISP in my part of the world. I do occasionall

Re: [expert] Creating PDF Dcouments

2000-08-15 Thread Jean-Louis Debert
Sridhar G wrote: > How to create PDF documents in Linux. Are there any PDF document creation > utilities? Ghostscript comes standard with an PDF output device ( -sDEVICE=pdfwrite ) so you only need to process your printer output (in postscript) through Ghostscript. I think this could even be done

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the default editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Pj
At 07:50 PM 8/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote: > >> Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is >> suposto be easy for users? > >It's the unix tradition :) > >> >> Anyone else seen this joke of a program? >> >Yes, and I use it almost daily > >>

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the default editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread ibi
I use an small and free, but efficient, html editor/word processor from http://www.fookes.com called Super Note Tab. If it will work under Wine, you should be quite happy Pj At 07:50 PM 8/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote: > >> Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist

Re: [expert] PPP config Linux <-> NT RAS

2000-08-15 Thread Greg Stewart
Do you know how they are configuring the protocols? Does it work "smoothly" (and I do use the term lightly--we're talking winblows, here) under Winblows? Does it flake-out only under Linux? Is their dial-up *actually* as RAS dial-up, not a ppp DUN? Are they expecting MS Encryption? NT RAS config

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set thedefault editor soI can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Gavin Clark wrote: > > If it bugs you, don't use it - there are plenty of other character-driven text > > editors available. > > this is backwards, if you know how to use vi or are willing to learn then it > will be a simple task for you to use it. but if you are new to linux/unix > (read: just a

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the defaulteditor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Sheldon
Ditto for everything that Ellick said. I do EVERYTHING in vi, including programming, etc. It's fast, reliable, works over telnet, etc. You are most surely asking for flames if you are posting that kind of stuff here. Alot of us, incl. me are unix/linux sysadmins. When you are doing remote admi

[expert] HW accel with mdk7.1??

2000-08-15 Thread Svante Signell
Need advice how to reenable HW acceleration on my Comapq with mdk71 and a Voodo Banshee card. What do you propose to install: mkd71 linux.3dfx.com = == Device3Dfx-2.3.4-5mdk.src.rpm Device3Dfx-2.3-5.src.rpm Glide_V3-2.3.4-5mdk

Re: [expert] Nvidea Riva TNT / Diamond Viper 550 installation

2000-08-15 Thread Chris Spencer
I've installed them. And yes, its a huge difference. Not much difference in 2D, but watch out if you load up a full-screen 3D OpenGL game! Unreal Tournament is very, very fast with the Nvidia drivers... -Chris On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Hi people, > > Has anyone successfuly installed th

[expert] webmin won't work

2000-08-15 Thread Xuejun Liu
Hi, After input the root and the correct password, it's still said Unauthorized. Any idea? Jun

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the defaulteditor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Ellick Chan
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Sheldon wrote: > I do EVERYTHING in vi, including programming, etc. > It's fast, reliable, works over telnet, etc. > In respect for those who are stuck working on a slow as crap link to a box which you can see your typing 30 seconds after you hit the key, vi is very useful to

Re: [expert] Creating PDF Dcouments

2000-08-15 Thread Xuejun Liu
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Sridhar G wrote: Print it in PS format, and use ps2pdf to convert it into PDF, that's all. > Hi, > > How to create PDF documents in Linux. Are there any PDF document creation > utilities? > > Cheers > Sridhar > > >

[expert] RE: almost there: ref - novell servers

2000-08-15 Thread Jose M. Sanchez
-Original Message- From: mdw [mailto:mdw]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:11 AM To: Jose M. Sanchez; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: almost there: ref - novell servers Hi there, I hope you don't mind me emailing you directly. I got your message from the list this

[expert] Creating PDF Dcouments

2000-08-15 Thread Sridhar G
Hi, How to create PDF documents in Linux. Are there any PDF document creation utilities? Cheers Sridhar

[expert] HW accel with mdk7.1??

2000-08-15 Thread Svante Signell
Need advice how to reenable HW acceleration on my Comapq with mdk71 and a Voodo Banshee card. What do you propose to install: mkd71 linux.3dfx.com = == Device3Dfx-2.3.4-5mdk.src.rpm Device3Dfx-2.3-5.src.rpm Glide_V3-2.3.4-5mdk

Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the default editor so I can TRASH IT?

2000-08-15 Thread Norvell Spearman
Couldn't the default editor be chosen depending on what kind of install you chose (e.g., automatic --> CoolEdit or whatever, customized/expert --> emacs/vim) in future releases of Linux-Mandrake? And remember, vi/vim can't be the editor from Hell; that's where all the M$ products come from :-) (t

Re: [expert] web server directory access HELP!!!!!!!!

2000-08-15 Thread Sevatio Octavio
A quick way is to type this into your console: chmod -R /home/httpd Seve >> Original Message << On 8/14/00, 10:01:23 PM, "rharvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [expert] web server directory access HELP: > How do you get your web pages and

[expert] Sendmail relay confusion

2000-08-15 Thread Joseph Lee Pereira
All my remote users will be coming in via USWest, could I add the following to /etc/access to give full access to any host at uswest?: uswest.com RELAY then adding this to the .mc file: FEATURE(access_db) Would this reject everyone else outside my domain except those coming in via u