Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-10 Thread Ric Tibbetts
For all the reasons different operating systems exist, so exists reasons for using each. It's a matter of rational choice. One needs look at ones requirements, then pick the proper OS. Linux is great for some things, as is Mac, and even Windows. Each has it's place. Use what works for

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-09 Thread Randy Kramer
Ron Johnson wrote: You have nothing else to do with your phone line, or have gotten a 2nd modem-only line. Or he runs the download over night, and restarts it the next night. After, all, a CD only takes about 65 hours on my 33.6 modem. ;-) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-09 Thread joy_ping
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, civileme wrote: On Saturday 08 September 2001 12:38, Michael D. Viron wrote: At 05:01 PM 09/08/2001 +0200, joy_ping wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Ron Johnson wrote: Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-09 Thread etharp
I got nothing to do with Mandrake execpt purchase the software and enjoy it and this list. I seemed to me that the fact the kernal changed from 2.2.x to 2.4.x and KDE had moved from a 1.0.x had a LOT more to do with it than the IPO. Of course i did not have the great ability to read minds you

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 September 2001 05:58 am, Randy Kramer wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: You have nothing else to do with your phone line, or have gotten a 2nd modem-only line. Or he runs the download over night, and restarts it the next night. After,

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread joy_ping
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Ron Johnson wrote: Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to cause problems. this is a mandrake thing i think. cause they have some misteries directory organisation, and they changed it so hard, that it is

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread Michael D. Viron
At 05:01 PM 09/08/2001 +0200, joy_ping wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Ron Johnson wrote: Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to cause problems. this is a mandrake thing i think. cause they have some misteries directory

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Michael D. Viron« am 2001-09-08 um 11:38:30 -0500 : work with a Mandrake 7.2 install. What moved directories? As far as I remember there have been no directory changes since 7.0 --the libraries may That's not true. Directory structure nowadays is much more compliant to LSB.

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread Sergio P.Korlowsky
On Saturday 08 September 2001 00:43, you wrote: The constantly changing APIs/libraries. Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to cause problems. This is because massive amounts of upgraded libraries were introduced, and many

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread etharp
makes you wonder tho.. since dos is gone why not release the source freely? hmmm, maybe some secrets in the closet? better to burn down the neighborhood than to have the skeleton found? On Saturday 08 September 2001 13:09, you had thoughts to the concept of: On Saturday 08 September 2001

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread John Haywood
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 15:43, you wrote: Just recently, I upgraded from KDE 2.1.1 to 2.2.  *Definitely* not something that non-geeks would ever contemplate or be able to do.  Noone could contemplate it on a dial-up line. poohba!!! Not only have I upgraded to KDE 2.2 via modem, but have also

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread Muzza
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:37, you wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 15:43, you wrote: Just recently, I upgraded from KDE 2.1.1 to 2.2.  *Definitely* not something that non-geeks would ever contemplate or be able to do.  Noone could contemplate it on a dial-up line. poohba!!! Not only have I

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread C.H. Close
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The constantly changing APIs/libraries. Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to cause problems. This is because massive amounts of upgraded libraries were

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread mike
C.H. You appear to have your head in the sand. I love Linux, I love it more than I tolerate Windows, but changes must be made. This is because I eschew a world run by Microsoft, not because I advocate it. I should be able to *upgrade* to another version of Linux, not because Windows can do

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread civileme
On Saturday 08 September 2001 12:38, Michael D. Viron wrote: At 05:01 PM 09/08/2001 +0200, joy_ping wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Ron Johnson wrote: Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to cause problems. this is a mandrake

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 September 2001 06:37 pm, John Haywood wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 15:43, you wrote: Just recently, I upgraded from KDE 2.1.1 to 2.2.  *Definitely* not something that non-geeks would ever contemplate or be able to do.  Noone could

Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-08 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I must agree with mike. The only reason to use the same s/w for 3 years is if it's adequate. For the wife's limited needs, Win98 O97 are adequate. IE4 was not. IE5 was not. IE5.5 is. However, I've installed new programs like digital camera

[expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?

2001-09-07 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The constantly changing APIs/libraries. Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to cause problems. This is because massive amounts of upgraded libraries were introduced, and many