[expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-25 Thread phriedrich
Hallo

In what way is the Multimedia-kernel changed/improved to the "normal" mandrake kernel?
Means it that it is faster in multimedia-apps?

Friedrich


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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-25 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:10, phriedrich wrote:
> Hallo
> 
> In what way is the Multimedia-kernel changed/improved to the "normal" mandrake 
> kernel?
> Means it that it is faster in multimedia-apps?
> 
> Friedrich
> 
> 
I haven't the cpu power to use it, but If I remember right from the
discussions in cooker, low latency is built in along with a number of
other things for doing realtime audio and video editing.  Most of this
came about from trying to get a multimedia tool called (IIRC) Jack.  

James



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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-26 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons




James Sparenberg wrote:

  On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:10, phriedrich wrote:
  
  
Hallo

In what way is the Multimedia-kernel changed/improved to the "normal" mandrake kernel?
Means it that it is faster in multimedia-apps?

Friedrich



  
  I haven't the cpu power to use it, 

Why don't you think you have the cpu power to use it.  Does it take
more than the standard Mandrake kernel?

  but If I remember right from the
discussions in cooker, low latency is built in along with a number of
other things for doing realtime audio and video editing.  Most of this
came about from trying to get a multimedia tool called (IIRC) Jack.  

James

  

Improved Supermount was another feature.  A very good reason to use it
as far as I'm concerned.

I've been using it for a few months now without any trouble.  Haven't
tried to configure Jack yet, but intend to in the future.

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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-26 Thread KevinO
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James Sparenberg wrote:
> ... low latency is built in along with a number of
> other things for doing realtime audio and video editing.  Most of this
> came about from trying to get a multimedia tool called (IIRC) Jack.
>
Cool -- you know Jack.(the audio server?)

People are constantly reminding me that I don't Jack ;-)

(Even right now whilst I am drinking Jack)

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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-26 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday June 25 2003 05:11 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:10, phriedrich wrote:
> > Hallo
> >
> > In what way is the Multimedia-kernel changed/improved to the
> > "normal" mandrake kernel? Means it that it is faster in
> > multimedia-apps?
> >
> > Friedrich
>
> I haven't the cpu power to use it, but If I remember right from
> the discussions in cooker, low latency is built in along with a
> number of other things for doing realtime audio and video
> editing.  Most of this came about from trying to get a multimedia
> tool called (IIRC) Jack.
>
> James

Doesn't require any more cpu power than other kernels. It's 
mostly for professional audio, but for other users it does have the 
low latency and preempt patches, plus a new and improved 
supermount.

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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-26 Thread Praedor Tempus
I tried the mm kernel and then went back to the
regular kernel (built from source with some of the
grsecurity features enabled).  The mm kernel is slower
than the rgular kernel for most non-mm stuff, so
unless you do a lot of mm work, it isn't worth the
switch.

praedor

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> James Sparenberg wrote:
> > ... low latency is built in along with a number of
> > other things for doing realtime audio and video
> editing.  Most of this
> > came about from trying to get a multimedia tool
> called (IIRC) Jack.
> >
> Cool -- you know Jack.(the audio server?)
> 
> People are constantly reminding me that I don't Jack
> ;-)
> 
> (Even right now whilst I am drinking Jack)
> 
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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Crawford
On Thursday 26 June 2003 09:45, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> I tried the mm kernel and then went back to the
> regular kernel (built from source with some of the
> grsecurity features enabled).  The mm kernel is slower
> than the rgular kernel for most non-mm stuff, so
> unless you do a lot of mm work, it isn't worth the
> switch.
>
> praedor
>
 The best kernel I've used so far is a kernel.org 2.4.21 with the Con Kolivas 
ck3 patches. I use the base ck3, then add all the performance patches, and 
the upgraded supermount patch. These work great. I compile as user in 
/home/kernels/linux-2.4.21, and after "make install_modules as root I don't 
use "make install," so I manually have to copy bzImage to 
/boot/bzImage-2.4.21-ck3, and System.map to /boot/System.map-2.4.21-ck3. I 
don't use an initrd for this kernel, and when I edit lilo, I delete the 
initrd line, so my new stanza looks like this:

image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.21-ck3
label=2421ck3
root=/dev/hda10
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet"
vga=788
read-only

I just copy the original MDK stanza to the bottom and edit the copy. Then run 
lilo as root. Of course, I also clean out and edit  my stock MDK .config file 
when I do make xconfig, to reflect my hardware. I just run make xconfig after 
applying the ck patches, and import a copy of MDK's .config, and then do my 
editing. This procedure works fine for me.

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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 20:31, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:10, phriedrich wrote:
> >   
> > > Hallo
> > > 
> > > In what way is the Multimedia-kernel changed/improved to the "normal" mandrake 
> > > kernel?
> > > Means it that it is faster in multimedia-apps?
> > > 
> > > Friedrich
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > I haven't the cpu power to use it, 
> Why don't you think you have the cpu power to use it.  Does it take
> more than the standard Mandrake kernel?

the Kernel itself no problem but the Video Rendering etc etc yes, on
Linux I'm slow for that.  This kernel makes it better but I'd need
minimum 1ghz with the kind of software Linux runs (Jack audacity etc.) 

> > but If I remember right from the
> > discussions in cooker, low latency is built in along with a number of
> > other things for doing realtime audio and video editing.  Most of this
> > came about from trying to get a multimedia tool called (IIRC) Jack.  
> > 
> > James
> > 
> >   
> Improved Supermount was another feature.  A very good reason to use it
> as far as I'm concerned.
> 
> I've been using it for a few months now without any trouble.  Haven't
> tried to configure Jack yet, but intend to in the future.
> 
> -- 
> Brant Fitzsimmons
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.
> Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
> self-evident."
>   -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)


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