Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-07 Thread Michael Adams
Grip as supplied (9.0 + 9.1) does ogg vorbis encoding without any addons. Xmms will 
play the .oggs happily. They are more environmentally friendly (read better license) 
than mp3. The oggs record at 44khz.

On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:25:06 +0100
bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sorry no, i use lame from the plf notlame package
 
 bascule
 
 On Friday 04 Jul 2003 11:34 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:17, bascule wrote:
   have a look in /dev/and see what you do have and try:
   $grip --device=/dev/whatever
  
   bascule
 
  Thanks bascule that got it sorted, just to really confuse things
  /dev/cdrom =/mnt/cdrom3
 
  Do you know which files I need to load to use mp3encode, drawn a blank
  with rpmdrake, so it must be part of another package, which one ??
 
  thanks
  richard
 
 -- 
 Rome wasn't burned in a day. 
 
 
 


-- 
Michael

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-07 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Michael Adams wrote:
 Grip as supplied (9.0 + 9.1) does ogg vorbis encoding without any addons.
 Xmms will play the .oggs happily. They are more environmentally friendly
 (read better license) than mp3.

Ogg's are better but I can't put 100 or so on a CD and play them in my DVD
player (or a portable). I have to play them on a computer, and that is a bummer.

Anyone know of any stand-alone DVD players or portables that play ogg that
have actually shown up on the market yet? (vaporware doesn't count)

- --
KevinO

If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?
- -- Lily Tomlin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQE/CTrNWOfRC7Rnmv8RAj2OAJ9j566yCL3EyrrY47B2qztNfY3YFQCgg5sN
lwsF8i2T9UCXy8zGZYeNNx4=
=2Wmm
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons




KevinO wrote:

  bascule wrote:
  
  
any advantage over lame on a single cpu box?


  
  SPEED!

Email off-list and will help you find/get a copy if you'd like to try it. It
integrates well with grip or use standalone from the command line. The command
line options are a little different from the others but fairly simple.

  

I found this through Google. It seems like something worth checking
out.
http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_1712.html

-- 
Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)





Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons




KevinO wrote:

  bascule wrote:
  
  
any advantage over lame on a single cpu box?


  
  SPEED!

Email off-list and will help you find/get a copy if you'd like to try it. It
integrates well with grip or use standalone from the command line. The command
line options are a little different from the others but fairly simple.

  

Do you have any documentation for it?

-- 
Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)





Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread KevinO
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 Do you have any documentation for it?
Nope. All I have ever seen was just the tarball...

-- 
KevinO

If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?
-- Lily Tomlin


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 Do you have any documentation for it?

I did see this... :

http://homepage1.nifty.com/herumi/soft/gogo2/readme_e.txt

DisclaimerPlease note that the use of an mp3 encoder may require, by law,
the payment of licensing fees to the patent holder(s), in some countries. The
U.S. is one of those countries.../disclaimer

I am pretty sure that this goes for Lame and Gogo, but not for Blade
that figures!

- --
KevinO

If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?
- -- Lily Tomlin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQE/Bpc1WOfRC7Rnmv8RAoS2AJ0Z6L+dhQTSyVXa5Im5TtKPxn6nRQCdFCiS
H+j/Pdiv5plqtHWaxUL6vU8=
=Dr0Q
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Richard Bown
Hi all
a few stats of my system on rip and encode times
source  audio cd 11 tracks duration 60.1 mins

Arson   this got in a mess and was aborted
K3b rip several hours and up to 60% cpu time (peaks)
Xripper  rip and encode encode to mp3 30mins 12% cpu time (peaks)
Grip rip and encode to ogg  15 mins (12%cpu time (peaks)

source drive genuine scsi

I'm trying to find the mp3 encoder for grip,
The one observation I can make is that the ripping process on grip is
about 8 mins , its the encoding that takes the time, the same with
Xripper.
With the resource on this machine 1.2 GHz duron and 750Mb of ram surely
it should be quicker ??  
The one thing I do like with Grip is the construction of a dir with the
Artist and subdir for the album name, and track names are maintained..

comments

TIA
 Richard
-- 
Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread John Haywood
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 06:38 pm, KevinO wrote:
 Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
  Do you have any documentation for it?

 Nope. All I have ever seen was just the tarball...


http://homepage1.nifty.com/herumi/soft/gogo2/readme_e.txt

...looks like a document to me ..., and on sourceforge there are the latest 
binaries (i386  source rpms) for nasm, which is alluded to on the previous 
page to compile it:

http://homepage1.nifty.com/herumi/gogo_e.html


I´m going to give it a go groan, and see if I can rpm it

let you know
-- 
 john in sydney
 Mandrake Linux 9.1, Kernel version: 2.4.21-0.18mdk
 OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net
 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread John Haywood
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 05:58 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 KevinO wrote:
 bascule wrote:
 any advantage over lame on a single cpu box?
 
 SPEED!
 
 Email off-list and will help you find/get a copy if you'd like to try it.
  It integrates well with grip or use standalone from the command line. The
  command line options are a little different from the others but fairly
  simple.

 I found this through Google.  It seems like something worth checking out.
 http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_1712.html


And as always - hit send button, followed by the results of a pbone search 
forehead slap

PLF has the gogo rpm for gogo 2.39b with all the extensions for various 
processor types compiled in

...which only goes to go sorry, couldn´t resist! - when you need anything 
multimedia-ish - especially US-license restricted

go to PLF
-- 
 john in sydney
 Mandrake Linux 9.1, Kernel version: 2.4.21-0.18mdk
 OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net
 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Richard Bown wrote:
Hi all
a few stats of my system on rip and encode times
source  audio cd 11 tracks duration 60.1 mins
Arson   this got in a mess and was aborted
K3b rip several hours and up to 60% cpu time (peaks)
Xripper  rip and encode encode to mp3 30mins 12% cpu time (peaks)
Grip rip and encode to ogg  15 mins (12%cpu time (peaks)
source drive genuine scsi

I'm trying to find the mp3 encoder for grip,
The one observation I can make is that the ripping process on grip is
about 8 mins , its the encoding that takes the time, the same with
Xripper.
With the resource on this machine 1.2 GHz duron and 750Mb of ram surely
it should be quicker ??  
The one thing I do like with Grip is the construction of a dir with the
Artist and subdir for the album name, and track names are maintained..

comments

TIA
 Richard
In contrib/, there is abcde.  By default, with a CD in /dev/cdrom, when 
you type abcde, there are a couple of interactive questions then abcde 
will rip the CD, encoding to ogg in a subdirectory of the artist's name 
with track names.  Encoding runs parallel with ripping.  A configuration 
file, /etc/abcde.conf, can be copied to $HOME for per-user preferences 
and there is an option to take advantage of smp machines.  On my 1700+ 
Athlon, it took about 24 minutes for 9 tracks/44 minutes of music.

Rolf


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:48 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

 In contrib/, there is abcde.  By default, with a CD in /dev/cdrom, when
 you type abcde, there are a couple of interactive questions then abcde
 will rip the CD, encoding to ogg in a subdirectory of the artist's name
 with track names.  Encoding runs parallel with ripping.  A configuration
 file, /etc/abcde.conf, can be copied to $HOME for per-user preferences
 and there is an option to take advantage of smp machines.  On my 1700+
 Athlon, it took about 24 minutes for 9 tracks/44 minutes of music.

 Rolf

Using Grip here, on a Toshiba SCSI DVD drive, XP2100, 512 megs DDR Ram, and 
rip/encoding tATu: 200 KM/H in the wrong lane, 11 tracks, took 11 mins and 
30 secs total time.

-- 
  
  /\  
DarkLord 
  \/  


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread KevinO
Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 In contrib/, there is abcde.  By default, with a CD in /dev/cdrom, when
 you type abcde, there are a couple of interactive questions then abcde
 will rip the CD, encoding to ogg in a subdirectory of the artist's name
 with track names.  Encoding runs parallel with ripping.  A configuration
 file, /etc/abcde.conf, can be copied to $HOME for per-user preferences
 and there is an option to take advantage of smp machines.  On my 1700+
 Athlon, it took about 24 minutes for 9 tracks/44 minutes of music.
 

Sounds similar to grip, which automatically creates per user config files
(~/.grip). All of these programs are just front-ends to the 'standard' command
line tools. (cdparanoia, cdrecord, mkisofs, etc.)

Using grip, set for cdparanoia for ripping and gogo for encoding, a Pentium 3
800 and an older Yamaha 16x LightSpeed drive, rip and encode takes 10 to 15
minutes for a full-length CD.

The Yamaha, using cdparanoia (slower but better) to rip runs at around 6x to
7x rate and gogo actually runs a little faster, often waiting for the next
track to finish ripping.

On my friend's dual Athlon MP 1600+, gogo runs so fast that tracks are often
encoded while his 24x Yamaha is locating and starting the next track, well
under 10 seconds per track to encode. (It has been a while but it seems like
it was more like 3 to 5 seconds to encode a track) It would rip track 1, then
encode it before it could start ripping track 2, then gogo would sit idle
until track 2 was done ripping, and so on ...

I've been using grip since Mdk 7.2 so I am pretty used to it. I really like
the fact that it is so configurable. With it set to auto-rip and encode on
insert, get Artist and track data off of the web, I would just keep sticking
in CDs and it would create a nice directory structure organized by Artist --
Disk -- Track ready to be rsync'd over to my internal server running edna
which serves up the files to any of the machines on the LAN. Grip really made
short work out of the project once it was all set up. Now we can play almost
anything from my CD collection on any computer in the house using Mozilla and
xmms. Back then Mandrake came with the Blade encoder but I switched to gogo
for the speed and quality. We generally use 192Kbps fixed rate here. (Variable
rate would have been better ;-) )

I wish my audio/DVD toys would play ogg

If anyone wants more accurate benchmark numbers I can run a quick test on
either or both of these machines.

-- 
KevinO

If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?
-- Lily Tomlin


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Richard Bown
Hi, well its looks like I'm in the right area time wise :)
Now I'm getting very tempted to upgrade the cpu, Ive only recently got
this motherboard so I should be OK .

It would be nice to encode to mp3 with grip, but I've look everywhere I
know and hav'nt found the encoder.

from the replies on this list and what reading I've done etc, it would
appear that the rip and encoding thats done with some of the windows
progs probably cut a lot of corners to gain speed.
At least with linux we can burn a CD and still do other things, my sons
750MHz duron machine running winxp, cant do much else if he copies a cd
with nero, it may be quicker BUT !!

Richard


On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 17:18, KevinO wrote:
 Rolf Pedersen wrote:
   On my 1700+
  Athlon, it took about 24 minutes for 9 tracks/44 minutes of music.
  
 
 Sounds similar to grip, which automatically creates per user config files
 (~/.grip). All of these programs are just front-ends to the 'standard' command
 line tools. (cdparanoia, cdrecord, mkisofs, etc.)
 
 Using grip, set for cdparanoia for ripping and gogo for encoding, a Pentium 3
 800 and an older Yamaha 16x LightSpeed drive, rip and encode takes 10 to 15
 minutes for a full-length CD.
 
 The Yamaha, using cdparanoia (slower but better) to rip runs at around 6x to
 7x rate and gogo actually runs a little faster, often waiting for the next
 track to finish ripping.
 
 On my friend's dual Athlon MP 1600+, gogo runs so fast that tracks are often
 encoded while his 24x Yamaha is locating and starting the next track, well
 under 10 seconds per track to encode. (It has been a while but it seems like
 it was more like 3 to 5 seconds to encode a track) It would rip track 1, then
 encode it before it could start ripping track 2, then gogo would sit idle
 until track 2 was done ripping, and so on ...

 I wish my audio/DVD toys would play ogg
 
 If anyone wants more accurate benchmark numbers I can run a quick test on
 either or both of these machines.
-- 
Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Richard Bown wrote:
 It would be nice to encode to mp3 with grip, but I've look everywhere I
 know and hav'nt found the encoder.

As mentioned in recent messages, but repeated here ;-)

  http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_1712.html

has the tar.gz file for gogo with source code.

PLF has an rpm for Mandrake:

 http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/plf/9.1/i586/gogo-2.39b-2plf.i586.rpm

- --
KevinO

If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?
- -- Lily Tomlin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQE/BwbpWOfRC7Rnmv8RAhR/AJwKW0uzEhsQUBZQgpBKrJRGhb338ACfYGGb
4DoIycQHNYkub2ekXWSeKoQ=
=vw4w
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Richard Bown

thanks Kevin , I obviously missed it 
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 18:12, KevinO wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Richard Bown wrote:
  It would be nice to encode to mp3 with grip, but I've look everywhere I
  know and hav'nt found the encoder.
 
 As mentioned in recent messages, but repeated here ;-)
 
   http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_1712.html
 
 has the tar.gz file for gogo with source code.
 
 PLF has an rpm for Mandrake:
 
  http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/plf/9.1/i586/gogo-2.39b-2plf.i586.rpm
 
 - --
 KevinO
 
 If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?
 - -- Lily Tomlin
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
 
 iD8DBQE/BwbpWOfRC7Rnmv8RAhR/AJwKW0uzEhsQUBZQgpBKrJRGhb338ACfYGGb
 4DoIycQHNYkub2ekXWSeKoQ=
 =vw4w
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
 
 
 __
 
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
-- 
Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Rolf Pedersen
KevinO wrote:
Rolf Pedersen wrote:

In contrib/, there is abcde.  By default, with a CD in /dev/cdrom, when
you type abcde, there are a couple of interactive questions then abcde
will rip the CD, encoding to ogg in a subdirectory of the artist's name
with track names.  Encoding runs parallel with ripping.  A configuration
file, /etc/abcde.conf, can be copied to $HOME for per-user preferences
and there is an option to take advantage of smp machines.  On my 1700+
Athlon, it took about 24 minutes for 9 tracks/44 minutes of music.


Sounds similar to grip, which automatically creates per user config files
(~/.grip). All of these programs are just front-ends to the 'standard' command
line tools. (cdparanoia, cdrecord, mkisofs, etc.)
Using grip, set for cdparanoia for ripping and gogo for encoding, a Pentium 3
800 and an older Yamaha 16x LightSpeed drive, rip and encode takes 10 to 15
minutes for a full-length CD.
The Yamaha, using cdparanoia (slower but better) to rip runs at around 6x to
7x rate and gogo actually runs a little faster, often waiting for the next
track to finish ripping.
On my friend's dual Athlon MP 1600+, gogo runs so fast that tracks are often
encoded while his 24x Yamaha is locating and starting the next track, well
under 10 seconds per track to encode. (It has been a while but it seems like
it was more like 3 to 5 seconds to encode a track) It would rip track 1, then
encode it before it could start ripping track 2, then gogo would sit idle
until track 2 was done ripping, and so on ...
I've been using grip since Mdk 7.2 so I am pretty used to it. I really like
the fact that it is so configurable. With it set to auto-rip and encode on
insert, get Artist and track data off of the web, I would just keep sticking
in CDs and it would create a nice directory structure organized by Artist --
Disk -- Track ready to be rsync'd over to my internal server running edna
which serves up the files to any of the machines on the LAN. Grip really made
short work out of the project once it was all set up. Now we can play almost
anything from my CD collection on any computer in the house using Mozilla and
xmms. Back then Mandrake came with the Blade encoder but I switched to gogo
for the speed and quality. We generally use 192Kbps fixed rate here. (Variable
rate would have been better ;-) )
I wish my audio/DVD toys would play ogg

If anyone wants more accurate benchmark numbers I can run a quick test on
either or both of these machines.

That sounds interesting.  I've gotten grip and gogo but it errors out 
with 'can't open cdrom device' (then ejects the cd, so it knows where it 
is).  I don't do much audio stuff, so haven't really tweaked abcde.  I 
moved the same CD to the slower but scsi-emulated drive, changed the 
rip/encode nice from abcde's default 10 to 0 (same as grip's default), 
turned off the [EMAIL PROTECTED], and abcde'd again.  The renice seemed to 
affect other actions, such as urpmf, but the process only took 14 
minutes, this time.  There are lots of variables.  Another is I'm using 
oggenc.

Rolf


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-05 Thread Richard Bown

OK replying to myself


I've loaded gogo, and by eck its fast, but a bit greedy on cpu 90 %, but
at nearly 3x rip speed ...wow !

richard
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 19:44, Richard Bown wrote:
 thanks Kevin , I obviously missed it 
 On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 18:12, KevinO wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  Richard Bown wrote:
   It would be nice to encode to mp3 with grip, but I've look everywhere I
   know and hav'nt found the encoder.
  
  As mentioned in recent messages, but repeated here ;-)
  
http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_1712.html
  
  has the tar.gz file for gogo with source code.
  
  PLF has an rpm for Mandrake:
  
   http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/plf/9.1/i586/gogo-2.39b-2plf.i586.rpm
  
  - --
  KevinO
  
  If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?
  - -- Lily Tomlin
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
  Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
  Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
  
  iD8DBQE/BwbpWOfRC7Rnmv8RAhR/AJwKW0uzEhsQUBZQgpBKrJRGhb338ACfYGGb
  4DoIycQHNYkub2ekXWSeKoQ=
  =vw4w
  -END PGP SIGNATURE-
  
  
  
  __
  
  Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
  Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
-- 
Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Richard Bown wrote:
 I'd like to find where this package has disappeared to , its still
 listed on the menu but fails to start.
Try running grip from the command line in a terminal window and see what that
does. Try running it as root just to see if it will start that way also.

 After scrapping the windows machine, I'm using linux for everything
 apart from the odd app which runs on Win4Lin.
 Disk to disk copying and ripping is painfully slow on the apps I've
 tried so far, grip has a ripping facility I'd like to try.
Grip is only a front-end for the standard command line tools (cdrecord,
cdparanoia, etc.)

I like to use the 'dd' command to rip data disks. Most programs under Linux
will use cdparanoia to rip audio disks. It is slower than it's Winders
equivalents because it makes multiple reads and tries to give you the best
possible extraction of data from the disk. This is helpful since the Red-Book
standard doesn't provide for error checking and correction on an audio disk
like a data disk has.

- --
KevinO

Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The
others escaped with minor injuries.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQE/BeciWOfRC7Rnmv8RApTaAJwP1SZoJT0W6X1K3qQeCCpUy/dqGQCdFdx1
Hwa3sQdizjYc3+0JaA/xYPo=
=c+Ur
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread Richard Bown


Thanks Kevin


It will run from a root console, and ripping and encoding is faster than
arson or k3b 

if I try to start from a user console I get

Unable to initialize [/dev/cdrom3]

I hav'nt got a /dev/cdrom3, I have got a /mnt/cdrom3

so how do I get into its config to change that to one of the valid
cdroms, when it wont start ?


TIA 
Richard




On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 21:44, KevinO wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Richard Bown wrote:
  I'd like to find where this package has disappeared to , its still
  listed on the menu but fails to start.
 Try running grip from the command line in a terminal window and see what that
 does. Try running it as root just to see if it will start that way also.
 
  After scrapping the windows machine, I'm using linux for everything
  apart from the odd app which runs on Win4Lin.
  Disk to disk copying and ripping is painfully slow on the apps I've
  tried so far, grip has a ripping facility I'd like to try.
 Grip is only a front-end for the standard command line tools (cdrecord,
 cdparanoia, etc.)
 
 I like to use the 'dd' command to rip data disks. Most programs under Linux
 will use cdparanoia to rip audio disks. It is slower than it's Winders
 equivalents because it makes multiple reads and tries to give you the best
 possible extraction of data from the disk. This is helpful since the Red-Book
 standard doesn't provide for error checking and correction on an audio disk
 like a data disk has.
 
 - --
 KevinO
 
 Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The
 others escaped with minor injuries.
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
 
 iD8DBQE/BeciWOfRC7Rnmv8RApTaAJwP1SZoJT0W6X1K3qQeCCpUy/dqGQCdFdx1
 Hwa3sQdizjYc3+0JaA/xYPo=
 =c+Ur
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
 
 
 __
 
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
-- 
Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread bascule
have a look in /dev/and see what you do have and try:
$grip --device=/dev/whatever

bascule

On Friday 04 Jul 2003 11:03 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
 Thanks Kevin


 It will run from a root console, and ripping and encoding is faster than
 arson or k3b

 if I try to start from a user console I get

 Unable to initialize [/dev/cdrom3]

 I hav'nt got a /dev/cdrom3, I have got a /mnt/cdrom3

 so how do I get into its config to change that to one of the valid
 cdroms, when it wont start ?


 TIA
 Richard

 O
-- 
- It could be a torture chamber or a dungeon or a hideous pit or anything!
- It's just a student's bedroom, sergeant.
- You see?
(Men at Arms)


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread Richard Bown
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:17, bascule wrote:
 have a look in /dev/and see what you do have and try:
 $grip --device=/dev/whatever
 
 bascule
Thanks bascule that got it sorted, just to really confuse things 
/dev/cdrom =/mnt/cdrom3

Do you know which files I need to load to use mp3encode, drawn a blank
with rpmdrake, so it must be part of another package, which one ??

thanks 
richard
-- 
Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread bascule
sorry no, i use lame from the plf notlame package

bascule

On Friday 04 Jul 2003 11:34 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:17, bascule wrote:
  have a look in /dev/and see what you do have and try:
  $grip --device=/dev/whatever
 
  bascule

 Thanks bascule that got it sorted, just to really confuse things
 /dev/cdrom =/mnt/cdrom3

 Do you know which files I need to load to use mp3encode, drawn a blank
 with rpmdrake, so it must be part of another package, which one ??

 thanks
 richard

-- 
Rome wasn't burned in a day. 


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Richard Bown wrote:

 Thanks Kevin


 It will run from a root console, and ripping and encoding is faster than
 arson or k3b
You may have a corrupted 'settings' file in your home directory (.grip)

Just remove it and try it again as a user:

rm ~/.grip
grip

Do this as a user from a terminal window.

 I hav'nt got a /dev/cdrom3, I have got a /mnt/cdrom3

/mnt/cdrom3 will not work, it is a mount point, not a device. What you need is
the device and it will be in /dev. Are you booting up using something like:

  append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi

in your lilo.conf, or if you are using grub:

  kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi

in your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
You need to have scsi-emulation turned on for the device to be able to burn a
CD. A quick check would be to see if you have : /dev/scd0

 so how do I get into its config to change that to one of the valid
 cdroms, when it wont start ?

If it won't start it doesn't matter because it is still broken anyway. The
settings are stored in the .grip file mentioned above:

GRIP 2
cd_device /dev/scd0
ripexename /usr/bin/cdparanoia
.
.
.


- --
KevinO

Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The
others escaped with minor injuries.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQE/BgErWOfRC7Rnmv8RAlrjAJ9KGeE/QVGkIp2TYZ7HKzstdI/yZACdEuk5
NEhhphJwINaeUsUjGvf9PGI=
=Rcp4
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

bascule wrote:
 sorry no, i use lame from the plf notlame package

Ever use Gogo? (Based on Lame, assembly hand optimized for speed. Can use
multiple CPUs.)

I have seen it do better than 50x compression speeds and it sounds as good as
Lame.(Which sounds better then blade, of course)

Kind of hard to find sometimes but it is a very small piece of code.
- --
KevinO

Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The
others escaped with minor injuries.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQE/BgHyWOfRC7Rnmv8RAkgpAJ9lxpSr/kkvZEqILdvx1h19pedyWwCfdDN9
K4HXCILOYydgxkf9Sg0p9Lo=
=iSXt
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread bascule
any advantage over lame on a single cpu box?

bascule

On Friday 04 Jul 2003 11:38 pm, KevinO wrote:

 Ever use Gogo? (Based on Lame, assembly hand optimized for speed. Can use
 multiple CPUs.)

 I have seen it do better than 50x compression speeds and it sounds as good
 as Lame.(Which sounds better then blade, of course)


-- 
Yes, said the skull. Quit while you're a head, that's what I say.
(Soul Music)


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-04 Thread KevinO
bascule wrote:
 any advantage over lame on a single cpu box?

SPEED!

Email off-list and will help you find/get a copy if you'd like to try it. It
integrates well with grip or use standalone from the command line. The command
line options are a little different from the others but fairly simple.

-- 
KevinO

Hickory Dickory Dock, The mice ran up the clock, The clock struck one, The
others escaped with minor injuries.



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com