Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-11-02 Thread Benjamín Valero Espinosa
I am trying to open f-spot using the photo database of another user (that
already exists, of course), with the -b option, but I get this:

Caught an exception - Cannot create /home/xxx/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db
because a file with the same name already exists. (in `mscorlib')
  at System.IO.Directory.CreateDirectory (System.String path) [0x0]
  at System.IO.DirectoryInfo.Create () [0x0]
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.IO.DirectoryInfo:Create ()
  at System.IO.Directory.CreateDirectoriesInternal (System.String path)
[0x0]
  at System.IO.Directory.CreateDirectory (System.String path) [0x0]
  at System.IO.DirectoryInfo.Create () [0x0]
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.IO.DirectoryInfo:Create ()
  at System.IO.Directory.CreateDirectoriesInternal (System.String path)
[0x0]
  at System.IO.Directory.CreateDirectory (System.String path) [0x0]
  at Mono.Addins.AddinRegistry.CreateHostAddinsFile (System.String hostFile)
[0x0]
  at Mono.Addins.AddinManager.Initialize (System.String configDir) [0x0]

  at FSpot.Driver.Main (System.String[] args) [0x0]


I have read-write permissions to that file. Is there a way to solve that? I
would really like my wife to see my photos and my tags.

Benja
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Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-10-27 Thread Dougie Nisbet

Silvano wrote:

Dougie, simply execute "exiv2 -p x /path/to/photo.jpg | grep
Xmp.dc.subject" to view the list of tags written into the file.

BTW, I was wrong, the tags are still being saved in XMP format :-)

Hasta la vista,
   Silvano
  
Now that's very interesting. I hadn't tried that option, and I'll tell 
you why. The exiv2 man page describes the -pv switches as equivalent to 
-pxgnycv, and so when I tried

   exiv2 -pv
and that *didn't* show the tags, I assumed they weren't there. But I've 
now tried exiv2 -px on its own and I can see the tags.


I've also got exiftool running now too but exiv2 -px is a bit more 
elegant I think.


Thanks,

Dougie

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Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-10-27 Thread Silvano
Dougie, simply execute "exiv2 -p x /path/to/photo.jpg | grep
Xmp.dc.subject" to view the list of tags written into the file.

BTW, I was wrong, the tags are still being saved in XMP format :-)

Hasta la vista,
   Silvano

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:00, Silvano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Silvano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:00
> Subject: Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?
> To: Dougie Nisbet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> There is no package directly called "exiftool", you have to install
> "libimage-exiftool-perl".
>  Silvano
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:38, Dougie Nisbet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Silvano wrote:
>>>
>>> Try "exiftool", it will give you the tags under the field "Subject". I
>>> don't remember if any option has to be set, but it works for sure :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hmmm, I've heard of exiftool and assumed I had it installed. But it doesn't
>> appear as a package in ubuntu so it's slipped off my radar. Found the
>> homepage and will install it later. Thanks for the tip.
>>
>> Dougie
>>
>>
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Fwd: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-10-27 Thread Silvano
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From: Silvano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:00
Subject: Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?
To: Dougie Nisbet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


There is no package directly called "exiftool", you have to install
"libimage-exiftool-perl".
  Silvano

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:38, Dougie Nisbet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Silvano wrote:
>>
>> Try "exiftool", it will give you the tags under the field "Subject". I
>> don't remember if any option has to be set, but it works for sure :-)
>>
>>
>
> Hmmm, I've heard of exiftool and assumed I had it installed. But it doesn't
> appear as a package in ubuntu so it's slipped off my radar. Found the
> homepage and will install it later. Thanks for the tip.
>
> Dougie
>
>



--
"Yo he visto cosas que vosotros no creeríais. Atacar naves en llamas
más allá de Orión. He visto rayos C brillar en la oscuridad cerca de
la puerta Tannhäuser. Todos esos momentos se perderán en el tiempo...
como lágrimas en la lluvia..."

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire
off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near
the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like
tears in rain..."



-- 
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más allá de Orión. He visto rayos C brillar en la oscuridad cerca de
la puerta Tannhäuser. Todos esos momentos se perderán en el tiempo...
como lágrimas en la lluvia..."

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire
off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near
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Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-10-27 Thread Dougie Nisbet

Silvano wrote:

Try "exiftool", it will give you the tags under the field "Subject". I
don't remember if any option has to be set, but it works for sure :-)

  
Hmmm, I've heard of exiftool and assumed I had it installed. But it 
doesn't appear as a package in ubuntu so it's slipped off my radar. 
Found the homepage and will install it later. Thanks for the tip.


Dougie

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Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-10-27 Thread Silvano
Try "exiftool", it will give you the tags under the field "Subject". I
don't remember if any option has to be set, but it works for sure :-)

Some months ago the tags used to be saved in the XMP metadata (what
was confusing a lot of people, because these metadata aren't shown by
most picture metadata viewers -in fact basically EXIF viewers-). But
ExifTool was listing them as part of the EXIF metadata, has it really
been moved the place where they are saved? If this is the case, then
"exiv2" and "jhead" should have any difficulties to show them.

Silvano

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 07:54, Dougie Nisbet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Silvano wrote:
>> The description of the Preferences option "Write metadata to file" says
>> "Enable this option to store tags and descriptions inside supported file
>> formats".
>
> I've been unable to extract tags using any other tool (e.g. exiv2, jhead
> etc). I've also noticed the camera maker warning message.
>
> I have 'write metadata to file' enabled. Can anyone tell me a command
> line tool to use that would allow me to see the tags that I've created
> in f-spot?
>
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más allá de Orión. He visto rayos C brillar en la oscuridad cerca de
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como lágrimas en la lluvia..."

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Re: Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-10-26 Thread Dougie Nisbet
Silvano wrote:
> The description of the Preferences option "Write metadata to file" says
> "Enable this option to store tags and descriptions inside supported file
> formats". 

I've been unable to extract tags using any other tool (e.g. exiv2, jhead
etc). I've also noticed the camera maker warning message.

I have 'write metadata to file' enabled. Can anyone tell me a command
line tool to use that would allow me to see the tags that I've created
in f-spot?

Dougie
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Is F-Spot changing the picture's metadata properly?

2008-10-26 Thread Silvano
The description of the Preferences option "Write metadata to file" says
"Enable this option to store tags and descriptions inside supported file
formats". Therefore I would expect F-Spot not to change any other metadata,
except "Software" and "Modification date" (what is the usual behavior when a
photo is modified by some software). But activating that option changes
other metadata fields! and I don't like such an unexpected behavior.

F-Spot tries to set the field "Date/Time Original" to UTC, but did I ever
decided that I wanted that? Does any other application out there does it? I
mean, what's the rational behind that? IMHO it's an unexpected behavior that
some users don't agree with. Could anybody convince me that this is a
feature that shouldn't be patch so that I don't loose my time with it? :-)

A couple of other fields have been also changed, although I don't
know/understand the reason behind them.

I found out this information by comparing the metadata of a photo in its
original form and after being imported by F-Spot with the option "Write
metadata to file" set. The tool "exiftool" may come to help on this task.
Just execute "exiftool path/photo_name > metadata_photo_name.txt" to get the
metadata of each one of the photos in a file and then compare them with
"diff metadata_photo_name_before.txt metadata_photo_name_after.txt". This is
what I got for a photo without tags:

< Directory   : /tmp
> ---
> > Directory   : /tmp/2008/10/26
> 1361c1361
> < File Modification Date/Time : 2008:10:26 18:57:18
> ---
> > File Modification Date/Time : 2008:10:26 18:00:15
> 1371,1372c1371,1372
> < Software: Ver.1.0
> < Modify Date : 2008:10:26 18:57:18
> ---
> > Software: f-spot version 0.5.0.3
> > Modify Date : 2008:10:26 18:00:15
> 1379c1379
> < Date/Time Original  : 2008:10:26 18:57:18
> ---
> > Date/Time Original  : 2008:10:26 17:57:18
> 1388a1389
> > Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes
> offsets (fix by 26?)
> 1400c1401
> < Internal Serial Number  : (S06) 2008:06:19 no. 0630
> ---
> > Internal Serial Number  : 
> 1422c1423,1424
> < Baby Age: :16:28 00:00:00
> ---
> > Baby Age: 630
> > User Comment:
> 1442c1444
> < Thumbnail Offset: 8096
> ---
> > Thumbnail Offset: 7908
>

What is the meaning of that warning? Did F-Spot corrupt something in the
metadata of the photo? Additionally the field "Internal Serial Number" got
reset and the field "Baby Age" got substituted by the last part of the
original serial number. Is that a bug?

Could anybody please confirm this output?

Hasta la vista,
Silvano

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