Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
I remember an essay or a talk by MMY that began with the words, Beautiful life, ugly life. If any of you remember it or have a copy of it, I sure would love to see the whole thing again. The appropriate point of this work was that the artist does not care whether he is portraying beautiful

[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms

2007-12-01 Thread FairfieldLife
BC - Brahman Consciousness BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi CC - Cosmic Consciousness GC - God Consciousness MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi OTP - Off the Program - a phrase used in the TM movement meaning to do something (such as see another spiritual teacher) considered in violation of Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Guidelines.txt

2007-12-01 Thread FairfieldLife
Guidelines File 11/18/07 Fairfield Life used to average 75-150 posts a day - 300+ on peak days - and the guidelines included steps on how to deal with the volume. But this volume was due largely to indiscriminate posting by a few members. We now have a policy that limits all members to 50

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The appropriate point of this work was that the artist does not care whether he is portraying beautiful life or ugly life. It is all worthy of his attention, his talent, and his inspiration. No art critic would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember an essay or a talk by MMY that began with the words, Beautiful life, ugly life. If any of you remember it or have a copy of it, I sure would love to see the whole thing again. The appropriate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/30/07 10:53:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought, okay, let me see if I can actually enjoy one of his films. What a piece of disturbing crap. Why people think he is some kind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. ... I don't believe many critic's know where to place Lynch's formula of obscurity = meaning. So open are the number of possible of interpretations of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the subject matter per se is hardly ever the issue. .. The artist is the subject matter, always. It is the only issue. .

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember an essay or a talk by MMY that began with the words, Beautiful life, ugly life. If any of you remember it or have a copy of it, I sure would love to see the whole thing again. The appropriate point

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 30, 2007, at 10:52 PM, Peter wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought, okay, let me see if I can actually enjoy one of his films. What a piece of disturbing crap. Why people think he is some kind of genius is beyond me. Almost all of his work

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IMDB Top Ranked Films and Eposodic Cable/TV

2007-12-01 Thread Vaj
On Nov 30, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I already stream from a remote PC in HD (for the last two years). I thought you were Mr. Apple around here. :) And you don't have Apple TV? And there are of course numerous other systems coming on the market and many work with Windows, Mac and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
Yes, but remember a great artist is the totality of all there is. So once that's pointed out, what is there to say? A great deal, as it turns out, since there is still the uniqueness of who he is in a particular time and place since, as Shakespeare says, inspiration must take a local name

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
This is a truly beautiful glimpse into what that movie is about. Thanks for posting it. a t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The appropriate point of this work was that the artist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought, okay, let me see if I can actually enjoy one of his films. What a piece of disturbing crap. Why

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather drive carpet tacks into my eyes. (Hey, good scene for a new Lynch movie) Well, if such horror as this were all there is to a Lynch movie, then, truly, it would not be art. There are plenty of movies around that do nothing more than show such horror.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought, okay, let me see if I can actually enjoy one of his films. What a piece of disturbing crap. Why people think he is some kind of genius is beyond me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: IMDB Top Ranked Films and Episodic Cable/TV

2007-12-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have but have not yet viewed 6 Feet Under. Any fans? One here. Excellent writing, as you would expect from the guy who wrote American Beauty. Nip/Tuck? Sadly, I have to raise my hand for this one. :-) It's my guilty

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought, okay, let me see if I can actually enjoy one of his films. What a piece of disturbing crap. I would replace disturbing with self-indulgent, but other

[FairfieldLife] My Blueberry Nights

2007-12-01 Thread TurquoiseB
I always look forward to my visits to Paris, partly because I'm a movie freak. The beach town I live in is cool and all, but it doesn't really show films in VOST (version originale, soustitré), and that's how they should be shown. Dubbing sucks. I never plan ahead and look up what might be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought, okay, let me see if I can actually enjoy one of his films. What a piece of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, both from watching his films and from knowing the woman who was his personal secretary for some time and hearing her stories, there *isn't* any deep meaning. He just films weird images that he sees in his head. They don't mean

Re: [FairfieldLife] Concentration Camps Already Built in America -- FOR Americans? Video with Evidence

2007-12-01 Thread Bhairitu
PROUT News wrote: *Is there a place for you by the Federally Enforced Management Authority?* *Complete with chains in the floor next to your bed to keep you there?* What have the administration and the eternal bureaucrats been doing to protect you, provide for the common defense, and promote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, both from watching his films and from knowing the woman who was his personal secretary for some time and hearing her stories, there *isn't* any deep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would state your last sentence differently, The critic has to sling more bullshit than the artist to hide the fact that he doesn't have any creative ideas of his own. :-) A person slinging bullshit is not generally regarded as a competent critic, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought, okay, let me see if I can actually enjoy one of his films. What a piece of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
This is a special instance of the intentional fallacy. The artist is sick, therefore his art is also sick. You'd have to show that in addition to stating that. Beethoven was deaf, but there is no indication that his music was written by someone who was tone deaf. Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Vaj
On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:00 PM, authfriend wrote: And, perhaps even more significantly, he says all Lynch's work expresses such emotional anguish and such deep confusion and conflict, apparently believing it is Lynch himself who is in emotional anguish, confusion, and conflict, when just about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Vaj
On Dec 1, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: This is a special instance of the intentional fallacy. The artist is sick, therefore his art is also sick. You'd have to show that in addition to stating that. Beethoven was deaf, but there is no indication that his music was written

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip not really part of the western mainstream practice (i.e. as in Dr. Pete's practice) it would not even be acknowledged by most of his peers. But make no mistake, Ayurveda waxes quite eloquently on meditational

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:00 PM, authfriend wrote: And, perhaps even more significantly, he says all Lynch's work expresses such emotional anguish and such deep confusion and conflict, apparently believing it is Lynch

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I just spent 2 hours watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. I thought,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Concentration Camps Already Built in America -- FOR Americans? Video with Ev

2007-12-01 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PROUT News wrote: snip.. I think they're going to use these as debtor's prisons next year when the economy crashes. We also need to stop the Senate from passing HR 1955 (which I think is renumbered 1959 in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Angela Mailander
No, you did not say he was sick. You said he was vata imbalanced (much more specific than sick, which I used as a ballpark term). You also said that you can see this imbalance in his work. Correct me if this is not what you said. I said, basically, Show me. Where in Lynche's work do you

[FairfieldLife] Think the war in Iraq is stupid?

2007-12-01 Thread bob_brigante
Think the war in Iraq is stupid? The war on drugs is much dumber: http://www.slate.com/id/2178795/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kansas hicks frown on rus' new campus

2007-12-01 Thread off_world_beings
They still haven't got'n over that time the wicked witch of the North came to Kansas...on a bicycle. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.hdnews.net/Story/TM113007

[FairfieldLife] Re: Concentration Camps Already Built in America -- FOR Americans? Video with Evidence

2007-12-01 Thread off_world_beings
I wonder if they will provide vegetarian meals to the inmates? Otherwise, there's always life-long fasting. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-11/25/content_284467.htm OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PROUT News [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Is there a place for you by the

[FairfieldLife] Re:Concentration Camps Already Built in America -- FOR Americans? Video

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is from debka.com a non US media source originating in Israel. They are akways right on with their reporting. For the record, while they've had some scoops, they are definitely not always right on with their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Peter
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as his films go, MD is the only one I've ever watched, and my reaction was similar to yours. Deep confusion and conflict can be interesting as long as there's some sort of context. Jimmy Stewart expresses deep confusion and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Peter wrote: Psychic limbo is a good phrase. Jimmy Stewart's character in Its a Wonderful Life is a psychologically healthy person struggling. Lynch's main characters seem to be wading through some sort of emotional hell that they never leave. Where's David Boardwell

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stand up and be counted (George Carlin - Who Really Controls America)

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But I just don't know what to do with the material at prisonplanet.com -- it's very disturbing data that can be googled, ya know? And have you googled it? Are you aware that PrisonPlanet.com is a *right-wing* site

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jim announces new role for himself.

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Barry wrote: I find this attitude of setting people straight about the reality of enlightenment not only creepy, but dangerous. Edg: I'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, delia555 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy wrote: the question is, *why* is the universe apparently orderly? Religionists say, That's just how God designed it. Science says, That's just how it is. Religionists?? No, that's just monotheists. Let's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stand up and be counted (George Carlin - Who Really Controls America)

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip A third war was planned all along, according to European historians. Which historians were these, Angela?

[FairfieldLife] Nine Most Badass Bible Verses

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
http://www.cracked.com/article_15699_9-most-badass-bible-verses.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Bhairitu
Peter wrote: Psychic limbo is a good phrase. Jimmy Stewart's character in Its a Wonderful Life is a psychologically healthy person struggling. Lynch's main characters seem to be wading through some sort of emotional hell that they never leave. Where's David Boardwell when you need him?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Bhairitu
Sal Sunshine wrote: On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Peter wrote: Psychic limbo is a good phrase. Jimmy Stewart's character in Its a Wonderful Life is a psychologically healthy person struggling. Lynch's main characters seem to be wading through some sort of emotional hell that they never leave.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stand up and be counted (George Carlin - Who Really Controls America)

2007-12-01 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But I just don't know what to do with the material at prisonplanet.com -- it's very disturbing data that can be googled, ya know? And have you googled it? Are you aware that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:00 PM, authfriend wrote: And, perhaps even more significantly, he says all Lynch's work expresses such emotional anguish and such deep confusion and conflict, apparently believing it is Lynch himself who is in emotional anguish, confusion, and conflict,

[FairfieldLife] Fun with Amazon

2007-12-01 Thread authfriend
If you have absolutely nothing better to do, as I did this afternoon, there's a section on Amazon containing a list, with links, of Amazon products that users have identified as oddities: http://www.amazon.com/tag/amazon%20oddities/ref=tag_dpp_cust_itdp_t Among them: Pierced Attachable Nipples

[FairfieldLife] Shotokan Karate vs Kung Fu

2007-12-01 Thread off_world_beings
Shotokan Karate vs Kung Fu Ouch... http://youtube.com/watch?v=fqqSmf8qATc OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] End famine by ignoring World Bank experts

2007-12-01 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/world/africa/02malawi.html Malawi's leaders have long favored fertilizer subsidies, but they reluctantly acceded to donor prescriptions, often shaped by foreign- aid fashions in Washington, that featured a faith in private markets and an antipathy to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mulholland Drive

2007-12-01 Thread Peter
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Peter wrote: Psychic limbo is a good phrase. Jimmy Stewart's character in Its a Wonderful Life is a psychologically healthy person struggling. Lynch's main characters seem to be wading through some sort of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with Amazon

2007-12-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have absolutely nothing better to do, as I did this afternoon, there's a section on Amazon containing a list, with links, of Amazon products that users have identified as oddities: