[FairfieldLife] Re: Facinating Stuff on Choice Rationalization and Cognitive Dissonance

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: I know fascinating is a relative term. (Maybe to some its merely interesting to some. And I sure a big ZZZ to others.) Well, *I* enjoyed it! And I finally

[FairfieldLife] Re: Battlestar Galactica

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On another funny note a friend brought me a Harmony remote to replace the flotilla of remotes on my coffee table. I programmed it for the Comcast box but OK button doesn't work. In fact as great as Logitech's product

[FairfieldLife] Condemned to be free?

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
This from yesterdays Guardian Condemned to be free. Showy students enjoy quoting Sartre's slogan, but new brain research suggests they might be better off worrying about whether freedom exists at all. Experts in Leipzig have wired volunteers up to a scanner and got them to choose whether to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All in all, I'd have to say that I agree with Curtis's very compassionate, patient, and intelligent answer to you and your claims about enlightenment. You may be enlightened for all I know, but it doesn't come

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Latest Video

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my latest YouTube video with my Captain Bebops band and the downtown dancers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cAD68ISy6k YouTube sure murders video quality. I even uploaded a 58 MB 640x480 master for it to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing that is very hard for me to understand is how someone claiming to be enlightened fails so miserably at grasping how he comes across to others. You'd think there's be more empathy, more ability to see

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: The other situation is during sex, when I feel the other person's emotions and experiences as if I'm inside them. But isn't this your own

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-) The TM group came in last against the other two controls. That means we 'won,' because what was being measured isn't of value. Sparaig Science. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Vaj, guess you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread ispiritkin
That's really cool, Angela. What a capital skill! Being honest with myself was not enough for me, and still isn't. I still am quite naive, so I set up some work-arounds to help me get past these stumbling blocks -- they are probably places where I still lack social grace and skills, lack

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-) The TM group came in last against the other two controls. That means we 'won,' because what was being measured isn't of value. Sparaig Science. Er, um...

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-) The TM group came in last against the other two controls. That means we 'won,' because what

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-) The TM group came in

[FairfieldLife] 'Taxi's Confessions for Popa'

2008-04-16 Thread Robert
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Condemned to be free?

2008-04-16 Thread ispiritkin
I opened a discussion about some similar idea with a friend a few years ago, and the discussion turned quite harsh. My contention was that all of our decisions initially began their existence as an emotional seed: something triggers an emotion, and then the heart/emotions respond with a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Does anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Condemned to be free?

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I opened a discussion about some similar idea with a friend a few years ago, and the discussion turned quite harsh. My contention was that all of our decisions initially began their existence as an emotional seed:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Condemned to be free?

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin ispiritkin@ wrote: I opened a discussion about some similar idea with a friend a few years ago, and the discussion turned quite harsh. My contention was that

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote: Well, Vaj, guess you are correct: TM is less in-lightening than other meditation techniques. Moral is, if you want to glow in the dark more, practice a meditation technique other than TM:: : J Altern Complement Med. 2008 Apr;14(3):241-50. Links

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-) The TM group came in last against the other two controls. That means we 'won,' because what was being measured isn't of value. Sparaig Science. Well of course in mantra-shastra it is said

[FairfieldLife] Re: Battlestar Galactica

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On another funny note a friend brought me a Harmony remote to replace the flotilla of remotes on my coffee table. I programmed it for the Comcast

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote: However, the determination of oxidation levels as the source of group differences needs to be verified further to confirm our hypothesis. I wonder if they were on any amla-based Ayurvedic Pharmaceuticals (Triphala, Amrit Kalash, Chyavanaprash,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Condemned to be free?

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin ispiritkin@ wrote: I opened a discussion about some similar idea with a friend a few

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's the scoop on: http://www.nikken.org ?

2008-04-16 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to get a feel for Nikken products: Magnets, Water systems, anti-oxident laden nutrional drinks, cushions, etc. My wife and my MIL spent a couple of hours with a Nikken MLM rep this afternoon - they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's the scoop on: http://www.nikken.org ?

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: My approach to subtle healing and corrective modalities is to muscle test for their value before buying them. You know about muscle testing, or kinesiology? That's actually applied kinesiology which is different from kinesiology which is

[FairfieldLife] POLYGAMIST RANCH

2008-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
POLYGAMIST RANCH Am I the only one who thinks that these folks had their civil rights abused? Without having the 16 year old pregnant girl in safe protection or even knowing her name, they took over 400 kids away from their parentscops just zoomed in there with armor and guns and took them.

[FairfieldLife] DEPARTMENT OF HYPOCRISY (was Re: POLYGAMIST RANCH)

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
This is the same Edg who replied to an innocent story posted by me of meeting a couple of lovely Canadian girls in a bar and having a wonderful conversation with them with the following rant. Please note that this is long *before* I used the phrase that *really* set him off (which was borrowed

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's the scoop on: http://www.nikken.org ?

2008-04-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Trying to get a feel for Nikken products: Magnets, Water systems, anti-oxident laden nutrional drinks, cushions, etc. My

Re: [FairfieldLife] POLYGAMIST RANCH

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
In a country whose collective populace believes in monotheism, polygamy and polyamory are viewed as heresy. One god = one love. On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Duveyoung wrote: POLYGAMIST RANCH Am I the only one who thinks that these folks had their civil rights abused?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin ispiritkin@ wrote: Me, I don't buy this. There is a history in the TMO of valuing the subjective more than the objective, and I think that Jim has fallen for it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy

2008-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
My grandmother was a piano player for the silent movies. She taught me a few chords and the walking base, and away I went plink plonking myself into a pretty good piano player, and boogie has always been the mother's-at-home genre for me. The thing I like most about it is that it seems like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Baby with two faces worshipped as Hindu god

2008-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
If I write a play and it is produced and there at the end of the play the audience arises in clapping thunder, I'm going to be pleased as the author, but suppose that someone jumps on stage and starts bowing in an outrageous act of getting the audience to think he was the author and was taking his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Condemned to be free?

2008-04-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I opened a discussion about some similar idea with a friend a few years ago, and the discussion turned quite harsh. My contention was that all of our decisions initially began their existence as an emotional seed:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Condemned to be free?

2008-04-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the mind seems to be pretty good at coping without the us at the top of the ladder. Thinking appears to be 95% pre-conscious and it's all to save us effort. The evolutionary advantages of this are obvious, in fact

[FairfieldLife] Re: POLYGAMIST RANCH

2008-04-16 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: POLYGAMIST RANCH Am I the only one who thinks that these folks had their civil rights abused? Without having the 16 year old pregnant girl in safe protection or even knowing her name, they took

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
My sacred hearted woman and I live 24/7 with each other -- never much farther away then a room or two. We talk intensely about EVERYTHINGfor hours per day at a minimum. We just sit and talk and look into each other's eyes and souls. Honest -- knee to knee, seriously listening to each other,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: The thing that is very hard for me to understand is how someone claiming to be enlightened fails so miserably at grasping how he comes

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
In organizations its called Groupthink. OK, the plan to storm Edg's compound and free his wife is a go. Meet me at the designated place and don't forget the night vision goggles and the stun grenades. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: POLYGAMIST RANCH

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: ...for the cops to choose this ranch as their way of saving the world's kids seems all too typical -- stomp the penny and ignore the pound. If Texas had protected only those at risk they may have been able to make a case. What the Texas officials have done is dumber than

[FairfieldLife] Re: POLYGAMIST RANCH

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: In a country whose collective populace believes in monotheism, polygamy and polyamory are viewed as heresy. Thomas Jefferson apparently knocked up his own slave. The Pope arrived yesterday; he's really sorry about all the pedophile priests. One god = one love. Abraham led

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's the scoop on: http://www.nikken.org ?

2008-04-16 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: My approach to subtle healing and corrective modalities is to muscle test for their value before buying them. You know about muscle testing, or kinesiology?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sacred hearted woman and I live 24/7 with each other -- never much farther away then a room or two. We talk intensely about EVERYTHINGfor hours per day at a minimum. We just sit and talk and look into each other's

[FairfieldLife] Re: POLYGAMIST RANCH

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Marek Reavis wrote: What makes the Texas situation unique is... My prediction is that 90% of the children will be returned to their parents and it will cost the State of Texas billions of dollars in fines. This case may even bring down the Governor. Apparently 90% of all children seized were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Duveyoung wrote: My sacred hearted woman and I live 24/7 with each other -- never much farther away then a room or two. We talk intensely about EVERYTHINGfor hours per day at a minimum. We just sit and talk and look into each other's eyes and souls. Honest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harry Reid has a sense of humor!

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
John wrote: Harry Reid has a sense of humor! Harry Reid - isn't he a Mormon? A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Now that's funny! Politico: http://tinyurl.com/56ko9w

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In organizations its called Groupthink. OK, the plan to storm Edg's compound and free his wife is a go. Meet me at the designated place and don't forget the night vision goggles and the stun grenades.

[FairfieldLife] Re: From The Huffington Post

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Boo wrote: From The Huffington Post The secret story of how Obama's gaffe made its way to the Huffington Post, of all places, and how it might affect campaign coverage from now on: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/deep-inside-bittergate/ Tick Tock

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, Hey, it's me that needs the rescuing. Help! She's mesmerizing me, she's addicting me to her goodly wares, she's putting thoughts into my head, she's unstoppable, she's insisting that we are of one mind, and she's rubbing my nose in it all day long with how we exactly concur about the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From The Huffington Post

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Lawson wrote: Imagine how the average American is getting manipulated in this race! You mean manipulated by Obama when he was caught saying something he believes? Obama brings a special measure of arrogance to the standard liberal critique of Middle America. His candidacy has always been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm with you on that. You can rescue her, and I'll rescue him. We can check with each other on how reprogramming of those two unfortunate victims of each other is going. About group think. Is it group think if he's got his car broken down somewhere and is wishing I could just show up, while

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Betting Odds on the Presidential Candidates

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Marek Reavis wrote: The Betting Odds on the Presidential Candidates... There is one thing to say in favor of voting for John McCain - he's NOT a lawyer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
She gets a personal reading aloud of all my posts -- most of them anyway. But I just read your words to her, and she thanks you for being pro-active and delving into her rights as to full disclosure on what I'm writing about her here. She enjoys the stories I tell her about the goings on here --

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She gets a personal reading aloud of all my posts -- most of them anyway. But I just read your words to her, and she thanks you for being pro-active and delving into her rights as to full disclosure on what I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: And she just finished sewing her hand made dress and it goes so well with her bonnet. Prairie dresses? Is that normal for Wisconsin? That woman does wonders with her loom. All my life I've been swinging a big load side to side as I walked, so I just finally found a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: If Edg can invent stuff about me and rant about it for weeks, then I have the same right. I suspect that there IS no she. Edg lives alone, deserted by the children who couldn't take his abuse any more than we can, and afraid to go out into the world to see if there is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: The thing that is very hard for me to understand is how someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, Hey, it's me that needs the rescuing. Help! Guys it's worse than we thought. Skip the stun grenades, we need to upgrade the hardware to shoulder mount stinger missiles. Abort capture alive instructions. Tell

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: All in all, I'd have to say that I agree with Curtis's very compassionate, patient, and intelligent answer to you and your claims about

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: All in all, I'd have to say that I agree with Curtis's very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Battlestar Galactica

2008-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: To follow up, does Logitech's remote allow you to create scripts for a series of actions, such as: DVD Script: 1. Turn on the DVD player. 2. Turn on the TV. 3. Switch the TV's input mode so that is sees the DVD player. 4. Turn on the amplifier. 5. Switch the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:32 AM, sandiego108 wrote: I've met a few folks I suspect might have been enlightened. What they all had in common was a killer sense of humor, even about themselves, maybe especially about themselves. Bingo. That is what's missing. What is present instead is a kind

[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment according to Lee Lozowick

2008-04-16 Thread ispiritkin
The magazine What Is Enlightenment? interviewed Lee Lozowick in 1995 and published it here: http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/lozowick.html In this excerpt, Lozowick explains his notion of enlighenment: [begin excerpt] WIE: From your own experience, what is enlightenment? LL: It's an

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In both cases, what you're describing seems to me to be a clear case of drawing bulls-eyes around arrows. Here's this thing that we *assume* has something to do with enlightenment. Let's see if we can find it in

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote: Well, Vaj, guess you are correct: TM is less in-lightening than other meditation techniques. Moral is, if you want to glow in the dark more, practice a meditation technique

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment according to Lee Lozowick

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
On Apr 16, 2008, at 1:38 PM, ispiritkin wrote: I do take issue with his use of the word slavery. Commitment to the divine feels like the opposite of slavery to me, because slavery is unwilling bondage. My bond with the divine is a willing surrender and a partnership. Surrender also is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread matrixmonitor
---All claimants to Enlightenment must provide a before and after (and during) account of their Yogic Swoon experience. If not, their claims are specious. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:32 AM, sandiego108 wrote: I've met

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-) The TM group came in last against the other two controls. That means we 'won,' because what was being measured

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote: However, the determination of oxidation levels as the source of group differences needs to be verified further to confirm our hypothesis. I wonder if they were on any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:05 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote: However, the determination of oxidation levels as the source of group differences needs to be verified further to confirm our

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread Vaj
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:03 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-) The TM group came in last against the other two controls. That means we

[FairfieldLife] Girl sings mouth shut?

2008-04-16 Thread cardemaister
Iiris (ee-ris),11, sings mouth shut?? http://www.iltalehti.fi/nettitv/?27974749

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
What the hell is going on here? All the folks who quit TM for whatever reason were as much lab rats as anyone, and TM didn't cut it for them. THAT'S SCIENCE! They did the experiment, they did the time in the chair, and they got zip. They may have gotten pure gold and are simply stupid when

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Latest Video

2008-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my latest YouTube video with my Captain Bebops band and the downtown dancers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cAD68ISy6k YouTube sure murders video quality. I even uploaded a 58 MB 640x480

[FairfieldLife] Are humans hardwired for fairness?

2008-04-16 Thread claudiouk
http://www.psychologicalscience.org/media/releases/2008/tabibnia.cfm Is fairness simply a ruse, something we adopt only when we secretly see an advantage in it for ourselves? Â Many psychologists have in recent years moved away from this purely utilitarian view, dismissing it as too

[FairfieldLife] Re: Facinating Stuff on Choice Rationalization and Cognitive Dissonance

2008-04-16 Thread gruntlespam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: I know fascinating is a relative term. (Maybe to some its merely interesting to some. And I sure a big ZZZ to others.) Well, *I* enjoyed it! And I finally

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:05 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: [...] I wonder if they were on any amla-based Ayurvedic Pharmaceuticals (Triphala, Amrit Kalash, Chyavanaprash,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:03 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Facinating Stuff on Choice Rationalization and Cognitive Dissonance

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gruntlespam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin ispiritkin@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: I know fascinating is a relative term. (Maybe to some its merely interesting to some.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment according to Lee Lozowick

2008-04-16 Thread ispiritkin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: I think it was the Western tantric Aleister Crowley who coined the phrase the slave-gods referring to the gods of Christianity, Islam and Judaism. Given what these religions require of their adherents I always found it quite accurate and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Facinating Stuff on Choice Rationalization and Cognitive Dissonance

2008-04-16 Thread ispiritkin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gruntlespam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin wrote: There are three possibilities: Poss 1: Car Goat Goat Poss 2: Goat Car Goat Poss 3: Goat Goat Car If you choose the first door, your probability is 1:3 for choosing

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:05 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: [...] I wonder if they were on any

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip More of that killer sense of humor, Jim. Sal More than you know. Hey, cut me a break-- I know Turq and Angela and others are frustrated by my ongoing inability to conform to their stereotype of an enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---All claimants to Enlightenment must provide a before and after (and during) account of their Yogic Swoon experience. If not, their claims are specious. Exactly-- now you're talking. All Enlightened behaviors

[FairfieldLife] Re: Facinating Stuff on Choice Rationalization and Cognitive Dissonance

2008-04-16 Thread ispiritkin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: Monty is NOT going to show you a car, so he will always show you a goat, regardless of which door he has to open. The point, as I said before, is that he gives you a choice of one door or two doors (one of which happens to already be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL's resident 'enlightened' guy apparently just can't help himself. Another nominee for the Approval Council of Enlightened Behavior, right John?? With all of your study of the subject, you'll be right at home! (...and

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] In both cases, what you're describing seems to me to be a clear case of drawing bulls-eyes around arrows. Here's this thing that we *assume* has

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] In both cases, what you're describing seems to me to be a clear case of

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] In both cases, what you're describing seems to me to be a clear case of

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...]

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] Jeez, I can't believe I forgot nature support that ultimate piece of mood-making target-drawing. How many times have you heard someone say I got some nature support today. When what they they really meant to say

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: FFL's resident 'enlightened' guy apparently just can't help himself. Another nominee for the Approval Council of Enlightened Behavior, right John??

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It's not me making these claims, I'm just passing them on. Your was meant rhetorically. I guess I should have said their, instead. Part of the Invincible America success has been no hurricanes, but last year

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: snip More of that killer sense of humor, Jim. More than you know. Hey, cut me a break-- I know Turq and Angela and others are frustrated by

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: FFL's resident 'enlightened' guy apparently just can't help himself.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: snip More of that killer sense of humor, Jim. More than you know.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: [..] Jeez, I can't believe I forgot nature support that ultimate piece of mood-making target-drawing. How many times have you heard someone

[FairfieldLife] Gadgetry's Golden Rule?

2008-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
For the record: Pricey, so-called high-end cables and wiring—speaker, HDMI, DVI, Firewire, RCA, USB, you name it—no matter what, are an out-and-out scam. Read more: 'Gadgetry's Golden Rule' By Jon Chase POPSCI, March 25, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/34phqk So when Monster Cable Corp. sent a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes you less in-lightened then other meditation

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: [...] It's not me making these claims, I'm just passing them on. Your was meant rhetorically. I guess I should have said their, instead.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Trouble With Normal

2008-04-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, you little hypocrite, what happened to your strident statement to this group about a month ago that you would soundly ignore me from then on? Or have you tired of ignoring Judy, or ignoring Edg? Actually, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gadgetry's Golden Rule?

2008-04-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record: Pricey, so-called high-end cables and wiring—speaker, HDMI, DVI, Firewire, RCA, USB, you name it—no matter what, are an out-and-out scam. Not so, my cables cancel out high frequency radio

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