[FairfieldLife] Re: Einstein letter: Belief in God childish

2008-05-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Wouldn't relying on his [Einstein's] judgment on this question as some kind of authority from the point of view of science be essentially the same

[FairfieldLife] Re: Einstein letter: Belief in God childish

2008-05-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 13, 2008, at 3:38 PM, tertonzeno wrote: Sounds suspiciously like something a Buddhist Magazine would make up on their own; but so far I have been unable to confirm the authenticity of the quote, as to source.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Don't Take on The Karma of the Initiate

2008-05-14 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
You completely misunderstood me. I have never had the problem to doubt about TM. My reproach is only that I had and still have to doubt in the capacity of reasoning of certain TM-Teachers, because they were and are not able to apply principles properly, because they are living in the delusion

[FairfieldLife] Re: The laws of nature vs. the Tao of nature

2008-05-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] So if the idea of meditation and its potential bene- fits still appeals to you, but TM's heavy-handed and dogmatic approach doesn't, you've got

[FairfieldLife] Re: Part Two Posted: Where Have All the Flower Children Gone?

2008-05-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Lawson wrote: turiya isn't pure consciousness? 'Turiya' is the fourth state of consciousness as described in the Upanishads. Turiya

[FairfieldLife] UK's X-Files. The truth is now out there.

2008-05-14 Thread Hugo
http://tinyurl.com/3n7dag

[FairfieldLife] Re: Einstein letter: Belief in God childish

2008-05-14 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: In a nutshell, I wouldn't consider Einstiens view to be the same as a holy man whatever he claimed to have seen or to have spoken to,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Einstein letter: Belief in God childish

2008-05-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --From the Buddhist magazine Tricycle (but original source unknown). Einstein says I'm no Einstein. Sorry - wrong quote. Einstein said: Buddism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Initiated into the tradition (was Re: Caste (Was Guru Dev really Santa? ))

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 13, 2008, at 8:56 PM, sparaig wrote: Of course, the TM explanation for these is simply unstressing or normalization repair- activity in the nervous system related in some memory-like way to the original stress that is being repaired. No more mystical than the placebo explanation,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Neural Buddhists

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 13, 2008, at 11:43 PM, yifuxero wrote: -Good article but there's at least one glitch, in regard to the mind transcending itself and merging with a larger presence. Actually what they're probably describing is what's now being termed Open-presence Meditation or Open Monitoring(OM),

[FairfieldLife] Re: Einstein letter: Belief in God childish

2008-05-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: In a nutshell, I wouldn't consider Einstiens view to be the same as a holy man

[FairfieldLife] SNL's Message from Hillary Clinton -- I Have No Ethical Standards

2008-05-14 Thread TurquoiseB
Scathing, but funny because it's pretty much what most Americans would actually expect her to say if someone gave her a shot of sodium pentothal (truth serum) and put her in front of a TV camera: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/11/saturday-night-lives-mess_n_101177.html or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aryan Invasion

2008-05-14 Thread coulsong2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a site that argues for the idea that the Aryan invasions were genocidal. http://www.light1998.com/The-Bible-of-Aryan-Invasions/bibai1.html Here is a site that debunks the idea:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Don't Take on The Karma of the Initiate

2008-05-14 Thread Angela Mailander
Good post, Hagen, that is my experience also, though, what I do is not exactly TM as most teachers who can't think for themselves would understand it. But I had a couple of interesting conversations with Marshy about it back in the seventies and we agreed on that very point and on the fact that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Einstein letter: Belief in God childish

2008-05-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: If you meet someone who claims to 'know' things, run the other way. LOL! Lenz claims to be one of the 12 truly enlightened beings on the planet. (Obvious question: who are the other 11? 'I'm not at liberty to say.') What he promises is an easy way to Nirvana. Buddhist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Aryan Invasion

2008-05-14 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm not sure, but thank you. In any case, it's definitely worth a look in a debate that has not been public enough. The mainstream version for sure has glaring weaknesses, but then, I have never seen definitive arguments on the other side. On balance, however, the version that argues for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aryan Invasion

2008-05-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Angela Mailander: On balance, however, the version that argues for massive genocide certainly makes sense on the face of it. No, Angela, hardly anyone supports the Aryan invasion theory, and NOBODY supports the massive genocide theory that you are advocating here. Get some smarts and do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Aryan Invasion

2008-05-14 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, Richard, the point is that I HAVE done some research and this has made me doubt the mainstream view, which I believed completely until I looked deeper. It is simply not true that NOBODY supports the massive genocide theory--otherwise there would have been nothing to research, and there

[FairfieldLife] Civil War Coming? (Can Obama win WV in Nov?)

2008-05-14 Thread Duveyoung
Given the below kind of reports, an Obama loss might actually give us a city by city, county by county, state by state revelation of such specificity about where racism most resides that the meme of red state - blue state will seem inadequately gross when, on election night, the TV maps show

Re: [FairfieldLife] Civil War Coming? (Can Obama win WV in Nov?)

2008-05-14 Thread Angela Mailander
It's interesting, isn't it, that the one person who is most in favor of genocide (in the Arab world) is also the one who most vehemently denies the possibility that Aryans (white folks) might have been genocidal maniacs on the Indian sub-content. --- Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hot Fuzz -- review without spoilers

2008-05-14 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Alex, Did you see Shaun of the Dead? No. Never heard of it. Never heard of it? Geeze. Why'd you even express your opinion of Hot Fuzz if you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste (Was Guru Dev really Santa? )

2008-05-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: All I'm suggesting is if you are interested in the benefits of

[FairfieldLife] YouTube - David Adair Reveals Light Speed UFO Technology Pt.. 1

2008-05-14 Thread Rick Archer
HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEPYOad1cnQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D EPYOad1cnQ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1432 - Release Date: 5/14/2008 7:49 AM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Caste (Was Guru Dev really Santa? )

2008-05-14 Thread Angela Mailander
Ruth, are you a very visual person? A yantra might work better for you than a mantra in that case. The technique would otherwise be exactly the same. Lemme know. --- ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: GOP's New Slogan Already Being Used To Market Anti-depressant

2008-05-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
(snip) Effexor, also known as Venlafaxine, is approved for the treatment of depression, generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder in adults. Its common side effects are very much in keeping with the world the House Republicans have striven to

Re: [FairfieldLife] SNL's Message from Hillary Clinton -- I Have No Ethical Standards

2008-05-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 14, 2008, at 8:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Scathing, but funny because it's pretty much what most Americans would actually expect her to say if someone gave her a shot of sodium pentothal (truth serum) and put her in front of a TV camera:

Re: [FairfieldLife] SNL's Message from Hillary Clinton -- I Have No Ethical Standards

2008-05-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 14, 2008, at 8:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Scathing, but funny because it's pretty much what most Americans would actually expect her to say if someone gave her a shot of sodium pentothal (truth serum) and put her in front of a TV camera:

[FairfieldLife] Peace dear Rauschenberg

2008-05-14 Thread mrfishey2001
Robert Rauschenberg, the irrepressibly prolific American artist who time and again reshaped art in the 20th century, died on Monday night at his home on Captiva Island, Fla. He was 82. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/arts/design/14rauschenberg.html? partner=rssnytemc=rss

[FairfieldLife] Neurological correlates of meditational styles

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
http://brainimaging.waisman.wisc.edu/publications/2008/LutzAttention_TCS.pdfWaisman Laboratory for Brain Imaging and Behavior, Department of Psychology, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI 53705, USA.Meditation can be conceptualized as a family of complex emotional and attentional regulatory

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - David Adair Reveals Light Speed UFO Technology Pt.. 1

2008-05-14 Thread Duveyoung
It's amazing what a personal testimonial can do to one's POV about any topic. The guy comes off as absolutely sincere and telling the truth. I get so excited by the concepts. BUT BUT BUT. The most immediate but that deflates David Adair's claims is that if he actually did invent a rocket that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste (Was Guru Dev really Santa? )

2008-05-14 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I am aware of mindfulness meditation techniques and the Mayo Clinic even has brief online instructions. I am also aware of progressive relaxation techniques. I was thinking more about finding something that

[FairfieldLife] Reincarnation pre-registration

2008-05-14 Thread Rick Archer
China’s 2007 “Reincarnation Law”. The case of the 11th Panchen Lama raised implications for what happens upon the death and subsequent reincarnation of the current Dalai Lama (the 14th) living in exile. Apparently mindful of its previous experience with the 11th Panchen Lama, Beijing late in

[FairfieldLife] Randi closes his mind to telepathic dogs!

2008-05-14 Thread Hugo
Found This press release on the Fortean Times website. Would like to hear the other side of the story before passing judgement. ___ Skeptic, James Randi Breaks-Off Negotiations on DogsThatKnow Experiment Noted Skeptic, James Randi has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation pre-registration

2008-05-14 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: China's 2007 Reincarnation Law. Interesting how religions and government always end up clashing in their quest for power over the people. Perhaps Tibetan Buddhism will now take the same direction as Christianity has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Don't Take on The Karma of the Initiate

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
No I didn't misunderstand you at all. You misunderstood my post though. :D But TM is a dead-end because you were only given a tiny part of the story. You seem to just parrot a very entry level of yogic meditation. There's so much more to learn but it isn't all magic. In fact a lot of it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Don't Take on The Karma of the Initiate

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
There are lots of techniques that work the way TM works. For some reason we have some kool-aid drinkers that think TM is completely unique. :D It is what is known in India as yogic meditation and there are many variants. The true seeker goes beyond just learning to teach yogic meditaiton

[FairfieldLife] Re: Civil War Coming? (Can Obama win WV in Nov?)

2008-05-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: War Monger, are you listening -- you've fed that diseased dog every time it growled at your doorstep. According to your logic, you should have given back the land you live on to the native Ojibwe a long time ago - they don't call it 'Wisconsin' for no reason. But

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aryan Invasion

2008-05-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Angela Mailander wrote: Well, Richard, the point is that I HAVE done some research and this has made me doubt the mainstream view, which I believed completely until I looked deeper. According to what I've read, the genocide didn't start until the Arabic and Turkish Muslims came in a

[FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread matrixmonitor
(The Malibu - SIMS crowd): 1. Jerry Jarvis 2. Keith Wallace 3. Bob Boyer 4. Theresa Olsen - I met her at the house where MMY stayed in. MMY wasn't in LA at the time. Helen opened the door and my friend and I walked in. Tina was doing the dishes. Met Theresa and Roland. 5. Walter Koch -

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - David Adair Reveals Light Speed UFO Technology Pt.. 1

2008-05-14 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEPYOad1cnQ I just watched the series. Very impressive. No surprise about the nefarious DOD and the lies to the public. It's what they do - just like with the bullshit war propaganda.

[FairfieldLife] Newly re-joined this group...

2008-05-14 Thread Jeffrey N Cook
Hello all, Jeff Cook here. I had joined this group last year, but soon after unsubscribed to all Yahoo! groups so I could rightfully clear my head. In any case, all is well and have just rejoined. For those of you who don't remember me, feel free to check out my website as a reminder.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newly re-joined this group...

2008-05-14 Thread Jeffrey N Cook
Oh yeah, the web address is www.JeffreyNCook.com Thanks, Jeff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey N Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Jeff Cook here. I had joined this group last year, but soon after unsubscribed to all Yahoo! groups so I could rightfully clear my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Civil War Coming? (Can Obama win WV in Nov?)

2008-05-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Angela Mailander wrote: It's interesting, isn't it, that the one person who is most in favor of genocide (in the Arab world) is also the one who most vehemently denies the possibility that Aryans (white folks) might have been genocidal maniacs on the Indian sub-content. I already told you,

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - David Adair Reveals Light Speed UFO Technology Pt.. 1

2008-05-14 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=DEPYOad1cnQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D EPYOad1cnQ Great stuff! I Don't believe a word of it mind you, I'm pretty sure if a 17 year old had made a fusion rocket in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (The Malibu - SIMS crowd): 1. Jerry Jarvis 2. Keith Wallace 3. Bob Boyer 4. Theresa Olsen - I met her at the house where MMY stayed in. MMY wasn't in LA at the time. Helen opened the door and my friend and I

RE: [FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matrixmonitor Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met: (The Malibu - SIMS crowd): 1. Jerry Jarvis 2.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
There are probably plenty of people here who had experiences of CC 1-2 years after learning TM. No big deal. Then there are probably folks here who have rarely had a clear experience of transcending. I've met both. Humility, intelligence, verbosity and even clear thinking aren't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread matrixmonitor
---cc according to MMY's definition, not an experience of cc. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are probably plenty of people here who had experiences of CC 1-2 years after learning TM. No big deal. Then there are probably folks here who have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Don't Take on The Karma of the Initiate

2008-05-14 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
Before I learned TM I tried quite some approaches to reach that, what I felt inside to be the necessary and urgent breakpoint of my awareness. But somehow it always turned out to be an unavailing exercise of getting the ball under water, incessantly coming back to the surface. At that time I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - David Adair Reveals Light Speed UFO Technology Pt.. 1

2008-05-14 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, I'm with you on this Edg. However. When I first saw the video of the Disclosure Project's first news conference on May 8, 2001 or maybe 2, I deconstructed it as I would any text. And here's an alternate reading of it that's totally possible IF the U.S. can in fact (secretly) produce

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Duveyoung
Hey, you forgot to put Andy Rymer on the list of folks who Maharishi declare enlightened. Anyone know where Andy is these days now that he's apparently understood at last that he's not fooling anyone about his pedophilia now? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL

RE: [FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matrixmonitor Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newly re-joined this group...

2008-05-14 Thread Peter
Jeffery, welcome back and to update you, everything is the same as before except Judy is now in CC. --- Jeffrey N Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, the web address is www.JeffreyNCook.com Thanks, Jeff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey N Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Civil War Coming? (Can Obama win WV in Nov?)

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote: Duveyoung wrote: War Monger, are you listening -- you've fed that diseased dog every time it growled at your doorstep. According to your logic, you should have given back the land you live on to the native Ojibwe a long time ago - they don't call

[FairfieldLife] Hey Bill, Do we really need this?

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
Gates has finally gone off the deep end. At some point just because you can make it and sell doesn't mean it needs to exist. :D It's one step removed from the Midas approach, but Bill Gates wants to turn nearly everything we touch into a computer. Speaking to a crowd of CEOs gathered in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
LOL! If they're not experiencing CC then what are they experiencing? :D matrixmonitor wrote: ---cc according to MMY's definition, not an experience of cc. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are probably plenty of people here who had experiences of

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met: Hey, you forgot to put Andy Rymer on the list of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Peter
Well, as you know, you can't experience CC because nobody's there to experience anything or, more accurately, to experience nothing. he-he! --- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! If they're not experiencing CC then what are they experiencing? :D matrixmonitor wrote: ---cc

[FairfieldLife] Vatican on ETs

2008-05-14 Thread John
To All: It appears that the Vatican has been monitoring our discussions here as revealed in the article below: Vatican scientist says belief in God and aliens is OK Wed May 14, 2008 2:31pm EDT Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page| Recommend (1) [-] Text [+] 1 of 1Full Size By

[FairfieldLife] Vatican: It's OK To Believe In Aliens

2008-05-14 Thread do.rflex
Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens By ARIEL DAVID Associated Press, May 13, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_aliens Believing that the universe may contain alien life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer said in an interview

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread matrixmonitor
--Some stated it outright, and I believe their statements. For example, in a 1967 lecture at UCLA, Jerry Jarvis was talking about cc and and in his usual fashion, allowed questions from the audience during and after his lecture. At one point, somebody asked, are you in cc, and how long it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation pre-registration

2008-05-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On August 3,2007, the State Administration for Religious Affairs (SARA) issued a set of regulations, effective September 1, 2007, that require all Tibetan lamas wishing to reincarnate to obtain prior government

Re: [FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of matrixmonitor Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Some people who reached cc within 5-7

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
I'm not here and you're not here, correct? Hmm, sounds like a title for a book. Peter wrote: Well, as you know, you can't experience CC because nobody's there to experience anything or, more accurately, to experience nothing. he-he! --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation pre-registration

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On August 3,2007, the State Administration for Religious Affairs (SARA) issued a set of regulations, effective September 1, 2007, that require all Tibetan lamas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I'm not here and you're not here, correct? Hmm, sounds like a title for a book. You start writing, I'll call Oprah!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: Anyone know where Andy is these days now that he's apparently understood at last that he's not fooling anyone about his pedophilia now? Why would you be wanting to contact Andy?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Civil War Coming? (Can Obama win WV in Nov?)

2008-05-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
According to your logic, you should have given back the land you live on to the native Ojibwe a long time ago - they don't call it 'Wisconsin' for no reason. The concept of owning land was probably foreign to the native Americans just as not owning the land the land was foreign to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Jack Smith
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as you know, you can't experience CC because nobody's there to experience anything or, more accurately, to experience nothing. he-he! To clarify: nobody's there to experience anything means that the ego (the self)

[FairfieldLife] hand temperature decrease in TM

2008-05-14 Thread Jack Smith
In my observations, hand (or fingertip) temperature tends to decrease with TM and TM-Sidhis. Anyone else observe this? There seem to be some reports in the literature that indicate this isn't unexpected. For example, from PubMed: Biol Psychol. 1980 Nov-Dec;11(3-4):235-47.Links The effects of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread matrixmonitor
-Thx...I agree. However, there are several types of egos. As pointed out by another contributor, we can describe and define a social ego that includes a collective manner of habits, and conditionings built up over a long period of time, based largely on a predictable mode of interacting with

[FairfieldLife] MTV does Lynch weekend

2008-05-14 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/524xgd

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, you forgot to put Andy Rymer on the list of folks who Maharishi declare enlightened. Maharishi did not declare Andy to be enlightened. Rather the opposite accuately as he ask him wheteher what he saw, the Gods,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Bhairitu
Jack Smith wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as you know, you can't experience CC because nobody's there to experience anything or, more accurately, to experience nothing. he-he! To clarify: nobody's there to experience anything

[FairfieldLife] Initiated into the tradition (was Re: Caste (Was Guru Dev really Santa? ))

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 13, 2008, at 8:56 PM, sparaig wrote: Of course, the TM explanation for these is simply unstressing or normalization repair- activity in the nervous system related in some memory-like way to the original

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread bob_brigante
To clarify: nobody's there to experience anything means that the ego (the self) has gone. ** MMY August 1970: What happens when the body ceases to function? What happens? The ego, individual ego had already gained the status of cosmic ego. And cosmic ego is there on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Newly re-joined this group...

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Peter wrote: Jeffery, welcome back and to update you, everything is the same as before except Judy is now in CC. Hold the phone Oprah. Judy we got you booked with Dr. John Gray on Mars and Uranus...they're very excited.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Neurological correlates of meditational styles

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://brainimaging.waisman.wisc.edu/publications/2008/ LutzAttention_TCS.pdf Waisman Laboratory for Brain Imaging and Behavior, Department of Psychology, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI 53705, USA. Meditation can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: (The Malibu - SIMS crowd): 1. Jerry Jarvis 2. Keith Wallace 3. Bob Boyer 4. Theresa Olsen - I met her at the house where MMY stayed in.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---cc according to MMY's definition, not an experience of cc. There's CC and then there's CC. True, full-blown CC would involve starting TM, igoing into samadhi and never leaving, ever. CC-ish states would be to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! If they're not experiencing CC then what are they experiencing? :D matrixmonitor wrote: ---cc according to MMY's definition, not an experience of cc. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Neurological correlates of meditational styles

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 5:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://brainimaging.waisman.wisc.edu/publications/2008/ LutzAttention_TCS.pdf Waisman Laboratory for Brain Imaging and Behavior, Department of Psychology, University of Wisconsin,

[FairfieldLife] TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread freeradicalfederation
My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly raise intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant risk factor for glaucoma, one of the leading treatable causes of blindness worldwide. (TM doesn't appear to raise IOP for everyone. However, I think we need to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 5:44 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! If they're not experiencing CC then what are they experiencing? :D matrixmonitor wrote: ---cc according to MMY's definition, not an experience of cc. In

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly raise intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant risk factor for glaucoma, one of the leading treatable causes of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Neurological correlates of meditational styles

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 5:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: http://brainimaging.waisman.wisc.edu/publications/2008/ LutzAttention_TCS.pdf Waisman Laboratory for Brain

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 5:44 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: LOL! If they're not experiencing CC then what are they experiencing? :D matrixmonitor wrote: ---cc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Hey, you forgot to put Andy Rymer on the list of folks who Maharishi declare enlightened. Maharishi did not declare Andy to be enlightened.

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 5:53 PM, freeradicalfederation wrote: My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly raise intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant risk factor for glaucoma, one of the leading treatable causes of blindness worldwide. (TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Neurological correlates of meditational styles

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 5:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: http://brainimaging.waisman.wisc.edu/publications/2008/ LutzAttention_TCS.pdf Waisman Laboratory for Brain

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Neurological correlates of meditational styles

2008-05-14 Thread Vaj
On May 14, 2008, at 6:11 PM, sparaig wrote: Well,I'd trust what it said more if it contained even ONE reference to TM research, but as is the case with other meditation surveys, it deliberately ignores the results of any and all TM research because the findings in the last 20 years

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread freeradicalfederation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation no_reply@ wrote: My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly raise intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread freeradicalfederation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 5:53 PM, freeradicalfederation wrote: My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly raise intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant risk factor for

RE: [FairfieldLife] TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread Rick Archer
Maybe it’s not the TM but the fact that most TMers do yoga – not headstands usually but shoulder stands. My grandmother went blind from glaucoma. I’ve been meditating for 40 years and have excellent vision. Go figure. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 /

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread freeradicalfederation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's not the TM but the fact that most TMers do yoga – not headstands usually but shoulder stands. My grandmother went blind from glaucoma. I've been meditating for 40 years and have excellent vision. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some people who reached cc within 5-7 years, whom I've met:

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Hey, you forgot to put Andy Rymer on the list of folks who Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] Be careful with your controls. There are controls that mimic TM quite precisely. I could post them if you're interested. Ho would you know these controls mimic TM quite precisely on a measure that they've never been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Neurological correlates of meditational styles

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 6:11 PM, sparaig wrote: Well,I'd trust what it said more if it contained even ONE reference to TM research, but as is the case with other meditation surveys, it deliberately ignores the results

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra - The plot thickens?

2008-05-14 Thread Jack Smith
You must of missed Deepak's response: A word to my rebutter: I feel that the probity of my account speaks for itself. I have not embellished any details of my past with Maharishi. Once he regained consciousness after his health crisis in London, he controlled whatever version of events he wanted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra - The plot thickens?

2008-05-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jack Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must of missed Deepak's response: A word to my rebutter: I feel that the probity of my account speaks for itself. I have not embellished any details of my past with Maharishi. Once he regained consciousness after

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