[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > [...] > > Similarly, different forms of meditation DO NOT "have the > > same thing to say." They are as different as night and > > day. For example, most of

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > A jumping to 10-12th effects already!? Does that imply you are > > > reasonaably satisfied that the 1-9th order effects are valid? If > > not, > > > you seem dangerously close to strawman territory. > > > > As I say,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread R.G.
(snip) > > >> Hey, I mean, Obama is neither black nor white, right? :):) (snip) Yeah, Barack Obama had a black father and a white mother... That was really his fault, I guess... Plus white leaders are so much better; let me name some... George W. Bush Ronald Reagan Tzar Putin Adolf H. All

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > wrote: > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "R.G." wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Good Point.> Someone told me that I had t

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Anti-Science Non-meditators Must be Stopped

2008-07-07 Thread lurkernomore20002000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Om, it is said the Committee is arranging with the nuero-physio- ccology lab on MUM-campus to cert August Tm-jihad course participants on the smmer TM-jihad camp course. TM-Field command positions will be filled at TM-jihad camp based on > scientific arrival of c

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Anti-Science Non-meditators Must be Stopped

2008-07-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om, it is said the Committee is arranging with the nuero-physio-ccology lab on MUM-campus to cert August Tm-jihad course participants on the smmer TM-jihad camp course. TM-Field command positions will be filled at TM-jihad camp based on scientific arrival of coeffienents of alighnment with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "R.G." wrote: >> >> >>> Good Point.> Someone told me that I had the habit of thinking in >>> >> total terms either black or white.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "R.G." wrote: > > > Good Point.> Someone told me that I had the habit of thinking in > total terms either black or white... > > And, that it would be good for me to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "R.G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good Point.> Someone told me that I had the habit of thinking in total terms either black or white... > And, that it would be good for me to accept the 'grey areas' of life's experience sometimes... > Sometimes things ju

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > "As I pointed out several times, making the Shankaracharya lineage that > MMY supported the custodian of all the land and buildings around the > world > that are being/have been built under the auspices of the S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "R.G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (snip) > > > Surely wandering in thoughts for hours at a time > > > without coming back to the mantra is still TM, right? > (snip) > > Several instructions here might be helpful... > When you have overpowering thoughts,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread R.G.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > What strikes me about your posts is that you again and again reffer > > to your "TB" friends which leads to this thought; why on earth would > > a "TB" have you as a friend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread R.G.
(snip) > > Surely wandering in thoughts for hours at a time > > without coming back to the mantra is still TM, right? (snip) Several instructions here might be helpful... When you have overpowering thoughts, repetitive thoughts, and it is not possible to think the mantra comfortably, then allow

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Anti-Science Non-meditators Must be Stopped

2008-07-07 Thread lurkernomore20002000
"dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Come to meditation, it is the only way. Sub Jesus. Sub Yahweh. Sub Allah. Sub Buddah. And then get violent when others don't come along.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Don't ever think you are fallen, just get on your feet and keep > running." > > - Maharishi, Boppard 1982 Good quote Nab. Nab, here is how I view spiritual growth. I was "into" ceramics in high school. (never

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Anti-Science Non-meditators Must be Stopped

2008-07-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FW: > > A Proclamation, for Suppressing Rebellion and Sedition > "Just take what you love doing, and do it with enough other people to make it the future." -- Carl Pope, Founder of Sierra Club > > Jai Guru De

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" willytex@ wrote: > > > > > > The war is over and Vasudevananda lost.. > > > > > > Curtis wrote: > > > It works on so many levels. > > > > > "I don't know who i

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The war is over and Vasudevananda lost.. > > > > Curtis wrote: > > It works on so many levels. > > > "I don't know who is responding to my comments > but they clearly have too much of a personal > st

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > The war is over and Vasudevananda lost.. > > Curtis wrote: > It works on so many levels. > "I don't know who is responding to my comments but they clearly have too much of a personal stake in this issue to see the facts clearly. First, it's important for Americans to understand that the S

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Its a fact that swami Vasudevanada Saraswati > > is sitting on the very seat that the > > Shankarachayra sat on, wearing the > > Shankarachayra's sandlals, and Vasudevanand > > owns all the buildings and the property that > > he inherited from the Shankaracharya. > > coldbluiceman wrote: > Per

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2008-07-07 Thread Bhairitu
Today's Gab Stats Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 5 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 12 00:00:00 2008 -- Searching... 303 messages as of (UTC) Mon Jul 7 23:18:57 2008 Member Posts "sparaig" <[E

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > >> > >>> I already said enough for some people to give

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I already said enough for some people to give their feedback. It all went over Lawson's head because it sounded like someth

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
of the high court order. shankaracharya swami swaroopanand saraswati > has filed a suit, seeking relief that swami vasudevanand saraswati be> restrained by the court from proclaiming himself jagat guru > shankaracharya of jyotirmath badrikashram himalaya. the additional > civil judge (second), alla

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > I already said enough for some people to give their feedback. It all > > went over Lawson's head because it sounded like something different > > from what he had h

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" wrote: > > > whether it's at all possible as an idea; Another point might be to > > check out whether, like fractal generation, there are any interesting > > surprises that

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread coldbluiceman
> Richard J. Williams wrote: > > coldbluiceman wrote: > > SBS did not build or establish anything! > Its a fact that swami Vasudevanada Saraswati > is sitting on the very seat that the > Shankarachayra sat on, wearing the > Shankarachayra's sandlals, and Vasudevanand > owns all the buildings a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > I don't strongly defend all things TM. Thee fact that you perceive > my rather > > moderate comments suggests that you have some "issues" in that reg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > Similarly, different forms of meditation DO NOT "have the > same thing to say." They are as different as night and > day. For example, most of the forms I practice believe > that the effectiveness of the meditatio

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" richardhughes103@ wrote: > > > > > Just as I prefer to believe that there is an ordered reality which we >

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread coldbluiceman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman wrote: > > > > > sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > > > > > That was really entertaining! Thanks for the new info. I find it > > > > intere

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread coldbluiceman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > That was really entertaining! Thanks for the new info. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Le Maison Rouge by Gary Moore?

2008-07-07 Thread cardemaister
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXYjEMTQRm0&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Judy tells the truth for once (was Re: Generic flame (this means you))

2008-07-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > As I think Curtis mentioned, one wonders how long > it has been since *either* of them got checked. > My bet is years...in Judy's case, probably decades. > How much would you be willing to wager?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The father of quantum computers

2008-07-07 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The article would have been more interesting if the article had > mentioned the possibility of building an android like Mr. Data of > Star Trek fame. > > It appears that Artificial Intelligence research has not been able t

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" richardhughes103@ wrote: > > Just as I prefer to believe that there is an ordered reality which we > can get to know (my fairly reasonable metaphysical faith in Science I

RE: [FairfieldLife] Judy's Priorities (was Re: Post Count)

2008-07-07 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:53 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Judy's Priorities (was Re: Post Count) >Hasty correction to my mistyping. She's made 28 posts >in *16* hours. That

[FairfieldLife] Re: The father of quantum computers

2008-07-07 Thread John
The article would have been more interesting if the article had mentioned the possibility of building an android like Mr. Data of Star Trek fame. It appears that Artificial Intelligence research has not been able to find ways to simulate how human intelligence works. If scientists did, would

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's a force we don't know about that brings good or > bad things back to us then I call it supernatural. I can't > think of a way that, often subjective, behaviour can bounce > off something and bring us back good or bad

[FairfieldLife] Judy's Priorities (was Re: Post Count)

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
Hasty correction to my mistyping. She's made 28 posts in *16* hours. That's only 1.75 per hour. My bad. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurk

[FairfieldLife] Judy's Priorities (was Re: Post Count)

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > > > So where is she? > > Took a long weekend out of town. Now I'm behind on my > work, so I'll be posting lightly for the next few days. Ju

[FairfieldLife] Sri Ganapati Sachchidananda Swamiji's limited public programs in USA

2008-07-07 Thread sriswamijisadhaka
Jaya Guru Deva Datta For those who expressed interest: Sri Ganapati Sachchidananda Swamiji's limited public programs in Chicago area, New York/New Jersey and Baton Rouge are listed below. (In Jackson, MS. the Hindu Temple Society of Mississippi's new temple is scheduled for Maha Kumbhabhishekam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Surely wandering in thoughts for hours at a time > without coming back to the mantra is still TM, right? Yup, as long as the thoughts in which one is wandering don't include the the thought that one is off the mantra (or the t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:34 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:29 PM, authfriend wrote: > >> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrot

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I already said enough for some people to give their feedback. It all went over Lawson's head because it sounded like something different from what he had heard. I suspect that his relationship with meditation is more conceptual than experien

[FairfieldLife] Judy tells the truth for once (was Re: Generic flame (this means you))

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > It's been pointed out here several times to Lawson, by > > > experienced and orthodox TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:34 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: It's been pointed out here several times to Lawson, by experienced and ortho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
> > > If you remembered it well enough to claim it meant > > > Lawson was wrong, you ought to be willing to spill > > > what it was. "Not interested" doesn't compute, Curtis. > > > "You're wrong and I know why but I'm not going to tell > > > you"? > > > > I remember it enough to use in my practic

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whether it's at all possible as an idea; Another point might be to > check out whether, like fractal generation, there are any interesting > surprises that unfold, whether "reap as you sow" actually works, at > least fo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:29 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >> It's been pointed out here several times to Lawson, by > >> experienced and orthodox TM meditators and teache

[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick's writings about Fairfield Life

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the following post, and in no post in this thread > or to this forum, did I ever suggest that I wanted > to "ban Judy saying it was offensive." Right. Barry claimed I wanted to ban Dick from saying what I thought wa

[FairfieldLife] Re: The father of quantum computers

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Found a fascinating interview with David Deutsch whose > ideas may change our understanding of the world. > > http://tinyurl.com/68s6ku Indeed, fascinating. And synchronistically, I read the interview just after watching

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Stu
> > A jumping to 10-12th effects already!? Does that imply you are > > reasonaably satisfied that the 1-9th order effects are valid? If > not, > > you seem dangerously close to strawman territory. > > As I say, they are the only effects I'm interested in. I can't > see the point of proving that if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If someone says "Why is everyone an idiot but me?" > is that implying a superior attitude, or not? Not when the very next line begins, "Seriously, guys..."

[FairfieldLife] The father of quantum computers

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
Found a fascinating interview with David Deutsch whose ideas may change our understanding of the world. http://tinyurl.com/68s6ku

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's been pointed out here several times to Lawson, by experienced and orthodox TM meditators and teachers, that it doesn't sound like he practices TM correctly Funny, I've ne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick's writings about Fairfield Life

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
In the following post, and in no post in this thread or to this forum, did I ever suggest that I wanted to "ban Judy saying it was offensive." Judy made that up -- the *same* thing that she is accusing me of doing throughout the post. As she herself says: "The real sign of fanaticism is making up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > As I have to constantly point out to Barry, there's > > > a difference between corre

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > > > > > Is it a completely mad and useless idea? > > > > > > No! It's an absolutely brilliant idea. > > More fundamental: Turing machine exercise. Fu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > It's been pointed out here several times to Lawson, by > > experienced and orthodox TM meditators and teachers, that > > it doesn't sound like he practices TM c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's been pointed out here several times to Lawson, by > experienced and orthodox TM meditators and teachers, that > it doesn't sound like he practices TM correctly Funny, I've never seen anyone say that about Lawson. Could y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > As I have to constantly point out to Barry, there's > > a difference between correcting errors with regard > > to *what* MMY said or did (or anyone else said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Hugo wrote: Why don't you follow this thread back to the beginning and see what got everyone pissed of in the first place. You won't find anything except patronising insults and Lawsons opinion being "superior" to everyone else and of course our "stupidities" in no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick's writings about Fairfield Life

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > Could

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > > wrote: > > > > > I think you may be mistaken in how many errors you actually > > > correct as opposed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > wrote: > > > I think you may be mistaken in how many errors you actually > > correct as opposed to just insisting you're opinion is the > > right one. > > Neither of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you may be mistaken in how many errors you actually > correct as opposed to just insisting you're opinion is the > right one. Neither of us do that very often with regard to TM- related matters of opinion, actually

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Is it a completely mad and useless idea? > > > No! It's an absolutely brilliant idea. More fundamental: Turing machine exercise. >There are two > things you could demonstrate. First is that the world > appears

[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick's writings about Fairfield Life

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > Could well be. In that case, my giving him the benefit > > > of the doubt was in

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > So what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Do you think I should try to prove something I heard on my > > > Forest academy from a 6 month graduate around 1977-78? > > > > Did I say I thought you should try to prove it? Or did I > > ask you s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > > > wrote: > > > > > Remember

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Was wondering. I didn't take 6 month courses or forest academies, > but I spent 8 weeks in-residence at MIU learning the Sidhis while rounding. > > Seems to me that if there was some "new" understanding to impart, it > would have been done at the start of the Sidhis course to make them more > e

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > wrote: > > > > > > So what caused the quake in England last year down near > > > Folkestone? I bet if we w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > > wrote: > > > Remember you even tried to rationalise about why my dog > > > doesn't like amrit kalash!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
> > > > Do you think I should try to prove something I heard on my > > Forest academy from a 6 month graduate around 1977-78? > > Did I say I thought you should try to prove it? Or did I > ask you simply to state what it *was*? I could be misreading your intention in this discussion Judy. But I

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > So what caused the quake in England last year down near > > Folkestone? I bet if we were a Hindu country it would be > > blamed on the number of single mo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick's writings about Fairfield Life

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Doug's post quoting yours was the first I read when > > I got back. After I've been away, I start with the > > most recent posts and work my way back.

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what caused the quake in England last year down near > Folkestone? I bet if we were a Hindu country it would be > blamed on the number of single mothers living on council > estates there. Or maybe disappointmnet at He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > I don't strongly defend all things TM. Thee fact that you > > > perceive my rather mod

[FairfieldLife] Choosing a Mate, Choosing a Movement

2008-07-07 Thread new . morning
There seem to be some strong and useful parallels between the pitfalls of chosing a mate, and being overrun by infatuation, and choosing a "movement" or organization that one commits much time, attention and values. [Comments in brackets.] July 6, 2008 Op-Ed Columnist An Ideal Husband By MAUREEN D

[FairfieldLife] Deep Down, We Can’t Fool Even Ourselves

2008-07-07 Thread new . morning
The research findings appear to explain some interesting behaviors on FFL. And in life. Skewing of moral reasoning, group affinities, the rational antidote. Whew. Good tuff. Deep Down, We Can't Fool Even Ourselves By JOHN TIERNEY NYT In voting against the Bush tax cut in 2001, Senator John McCa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > I don't strongly defend all things TM. Thee fact that you > > perceive my rather moderate comments suggests that you have > > some "issues" in that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > As far as why you guys never heard something, that doesn't > > > surpr

[FairfieldLife] Re: could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nature supposedly knows best how to organize and it administers the > cosmos without problems. Except suffering exists everywhere you look.. > Nature seems wholly mechanical and amoral in its operations. And yet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems to me that the "think for themselves" group > exemplifies the best that spirituality has to offer, > while the "gotta refute or demonize the heretics" > group exemplifies the worst that spirituality has > to offer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > I don't strongly defend all things TM. Thee fact that you > > perceive my rather moderate comments suggests that you > > have some "issues" in that regard. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick's writings about Fairfield Life

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You were TAUGHT -- over and over and over and over -- > to believe that anyone who walked away from TM "never > got what MMY was saying." If they *had*, there would > have been no reason TO walk away, right? > > You don

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Anti-Science Non-meditators Must be Stopped

2008-07-07 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Certify your meditation for effortlessness. It is noticable that many posting here on Rick Archer's FFL board are, non-meditators. Fallen-away meditators. The Committee should very much like to see fallen-away meditators, especially like you, come back home to group meditation. Git your me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't strongly defend all things TM. Thee fact that you perceive my rather > moderate comments suggests that you have some "issues" in that regard. > Why the attack back? Please don't read my mind, you don't know if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick's writings about Fairfield Life

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > > > > Turq, you write good often. > > > > > > Back home now from the crusades

[FairfieldLife] could "reap as you sow" be computer tested?

2008-07-07 Thread claudiouk
Nature supposedly knows best how to organize and it administers the cosmos without problems. Except suffering exists everywhere you look.. Nature seems wholly mechanical and amoral in its operations. And yet karma is supposed to be a hidden moral force which overlaps individual lifetimes in its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > As far as why you guys never heard something, that doesn't > > surprise me at all. There are hundreds of hours of Maharishi > > discussions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Me, I *like* a lot of the people here. They're really > neat. They've been there, done that. I like some of > the ones who still practice TM religiously, and I like > others who wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot Shiva

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > We "got" what Maharishi was saying. We just *rejected* > > it, that's all. And quite frankly, you are still so > > brainwashed that you think that's some kind of failing > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nab, sounds like you live in pretty black and white world. And it's > good to know that with few exceptions you feel no affintiy for anyone > here. Either your 100% in or 100% out, is what I hear you s

[FairfieldLife] Re: My visit to Seelisberg

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is interesting that finding a suitable person wasn't a > problem at the other maths. Was that because they were > lesser in Shankara's intention and didn't need a superman > like Guru Dev? Why would there b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think you're bluffing about the whole thing, frankly. > > Either there was no new understanding, or you've > > forgotten what it was. > > I was discussing my practice and Lawson threw out a bunch of > intr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Generic flame (this means you)

2008-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: We "got" what Maharishi was saying. We just *rejected* it, that's all. And quite frankly, you are still so brainwashed that you think that's some kind of failing or "sin." In all honesty, I didn't reject it at first, but became suspicious over

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