[FairfieldLife] Re: The Judge is Gay?

2010-08-07 Thread John
It's a sure bet that the Prop. 8 supporters will use this argument in their appeal to overturn the legal decision made by the judge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This debate of the California

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Breaking news

2010-08-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgil...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Om, It drives me nuts when people interject ums into their speech, but it just now occurs to me that the habit may be a subconscious way of affirming the divine

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?

2010-08-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of emptybill Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 4:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?

[FairfieldLife] Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
Review Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending: Categories to organize meditations from Vedic, Buddhist and Chinese traditions[Purchase the full-text article] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MImg_imagekey=B6WD0-4YDR2GR-1\

[FairfieldLife] Tottiyarvi-suutra I 1

2010-08-07 Thread cardemaister
Vairaagya for a yogii without experience of siddhi-s is like brahmacarya for an eunuch! Related yoga-suutra: prasaMkhyaane 'py akusiidasya sarvathaa viveka- khyaater dharma-megaH samaadhiH.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?

2010-08-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: FWIW, in Classical Latin that (and all the other forms) was actually written with an 'i': 'iacere' and pronounced ~'yakeh-reh'. For instance: Alea iacta (yuck-tah) est!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tottiyarvi-suutra I 1

2010-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Vairaagya for a yogii without experience of siddhi-s is like brahmacarya for an eunuch! Related yoga-suutra: prasaMkhyaane 'py akusiidasya sarvathaa viveka- khyaater dharma-megaH samaadhiH. Mukkava vittu ! :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do YOU view Maharishi?

2010-08-07 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Joe: I hope others weigh in on this topic since it remains one of great interest to those of us who devoted a chunk of our lives to him and his cause... Oh, Jezzus! Talk about your well-poisoners! What a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread Buck
Oh, these are spitting fight'ng words.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Review Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending: Categories to organize meditations from Vedic, Buddhist and Chinese traditions[Purchase the full-text

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do YOU view Maharishi?

2010-08-07 Thread raunchydog
Nice rant, WillyTex. Yep, spoil sports, the lot of 'em. At least Harvey Pekar made a few bucks complaining about his miserable life. Writing a comic book series about your failed relationship with Maharishi isn't worth a dime. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Oh, these are spitting fight'ng words.. Pehaps, but it shows that Maharishi is right and the Turq and other Buddhists are wrong: TM is by far the most effective technique of meditation.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread Peter
--- On Sat, 8/7/10, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 8:13 AM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread Peter
Nice find, Nabsgoing to buy and download i.t --- On Sat, 8/7/10, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Also, I think the mantra opens the mind to celestial/subtle perception You misspelled opens the mind to Satan.

[FairfieldLife] Kami Kama -- was to Learn the Kabbalahhey

2010-08-07 Thread tartbrain
Actually, if you listen more carefully they were saying um, torah which proves they were hinjoos -- not shinto / buddhists. Though they maintained some shinto ways -- kami in shinto tradition is the spiritual essence in everything. Specifically the kamikaze divebombers were seeking to liberate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread tartbrain
what about that automatic transcending chinese meditation that was studied? and the other vedic auto transcending ones? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh, these are spitting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh, these are spitting fight'ng words.. Pehaps, but it shows that Maharishi is right and the Turq and other Buddhists are wrong: TM is by far

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread tartbrain
Peter, I am trying to understand your concept of waking state concepts -- used I think, pejoratively. (Aside from the loop of waking state concepts being a waking state concept) how do the categories below escape, transcend or get a pass from being waking state concepts which if I understood

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kami Kama -- was to Learn the Kabbalahhey

2010-08-07 Thread raunchydog
tartbrain emptybill, you guys are a riot! Thanks for the morning funnies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: Actually, if you listen more carefully they were saying um, torah which proves they were hinjoos -- not shinto / buddhists. Though they maintained

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread tartbrain
While I see you in your essence as Shiva, slayer of demons of ignorance, the silence that pervades the universe, I am puzzled by your sutras below. Anyone can close their eyes and Transcend. Can't you? Then why the fuss about methods? If a non-method leads to Transcendence, why can't any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tottiyarvi-suutra I 1

2010-08-07 Thread emptybill
Nice commentary. Is this your own insight? And by the way, didn't you forget to give a brief translation of the suutra? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Vairaagya for a yogii without experience of siddhi-s is like brahmacarya for an eunuch! Related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread jpgillam
This does look interesting. I'm pretty sure I'll never get around to reading it, but it's the kind of research I like to see coming from Maharishi University - looking at consciousness and meditation from a larger perspective that just TM/SCI. Great to see Jon Shear involved, too. --- In

[FairfieldLife] A Day in The Life of FF

2010-08-07 Thread tartbrain
Dedicated sidhas returning home after hard day in the domes. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/07/rare-color-photos-from-the-great-depression_n_674344.html#s124103 And across town at the Soma mill

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread jpgillam
Comments interleaved below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: With TM we're talking about one technique which produces tremendous bliss and mental clarity for many people, especially after years of practice. With Buddhist meditation techniques there are many. So you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread Peter
--- On Sat, 8/7/10, jpgillam jpgil...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jpgillam jpgil...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 12:33 PM Comments interleaved

[FairfieldLife] Raj Patel - The Message

2010-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsDG-0WQM20feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11QSpqpvTQc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20SOxp_Qw0feature=fvw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwjZlEMHDeofeature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt6XB1JXhQwfeature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya, the World Teacher appears out of thin air in Kenya

2010-08-07 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YiI5gXbB5ofeature=related Whoa! Could it be? Is that Rick Archer at about 1:45? Nabs Rick are in cahoots! It's a plot I tells ye...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread tartbrain
My two bits below. (And sorry if I am interupting a personal conversation or otherwise breaking some FFL protocol. (Someone accused another of breaking into a convo I was having with Willie -- which I didn't mind, and didn't see as breaking in. Perhaps the distinction is rude catcalls or

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?

2010-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
From the woman whose message I posted earlier, who also had a sexual encounter with MMY: Rick I just read Curtis' story. I would say that the women who went through it knew. Other women would know something was going on, but the Puritanical upbringings would not allow the obvious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya, the World Teacher appears out of thin air in Kenya

2010-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YiI5gXbB5ofeature=related Whoa! Could it be? Is that Rick Archer at about 1:45? Nabs Rick are in cahoots! It's a

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?

2010-08-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From the woman whose message I posted earlier, who also had a sexual encounter with MMY: Rick I just read Curtis' story. I would say that the women who went through it knew. Other women would know something was going

[FairfieldLife] Benjamin Creme on Entering the 21st Century

2010-08-07 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvytE8vnIbAfeature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX2oAgpIofENR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmZIEU4PMxcfeature=related Public Meditation with Benjamin Creme: Tuesday, August 10, 7:30 PM Fort Mason Center Building A, Buchanan Marina Boulevard

[FairfieldLife] Aunt Toby Busts the Billionaires

2010-08-07 Thread raunchydog
Before you start feeling all warm and fuzzy about 40 billionaires donating 50% of their wealth to charity, you should read Aunt Toby's rant about it at Firedoglake. http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/63851

[FairfieldLife] Focused attention, Open monitoring and Self-transcending

2010-08-07 Thread emptybill
My experiences of sitting quietly and following the breath or placing the mind's attention on attention itself is tremendous quietness and clarity, but little bliss. Perhaps that's why the Buddhists on this forum vainly have tried to degenerate the value of bliss simply because never having the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread jpgillam
Comments interleaved below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: please tell me to butt out if commenting on others conversations is considered rude The whole point of having a written conversations in a public forum is to invite others to join in. The more input, the

[FairfieldLife] Pundit Assault

2010-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
The other day, in the middle of performing a yagya, one pundit beat the crap out of another, so badly that he had to be airlifted by helicopter to the hospital in Iowa City.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundit Assault

2010-08-07 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The other day, in the middle of performing a yagya, one pundit beat the crap out of another, so badly that he had to be airlifted by helicopter to the hospital in Iowa City. A, yes, something good is definitely happening... Otherwise, who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundit Assault

2010-08-07 Thread Mike Dixon
H... PYUI? From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 3:26:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Pundit Assault   The other day, in the middle of performing a yagya, one pundit beat the crap out of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundit Assault

2010-08-07 Thread yifuxero
Were they fighting over a woman? No problem...the police have been called in, should be there on bicycles. Watch for them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MISSIONNAIRES_MORMONS.JPG --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: The other day, in the middle of performing

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-08-07 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 07 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 14 00:00:00 2010 54 messages as of (UTC) Sun Aug 08 00:06:43 2010 8 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 6 tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 raunchydog

RE: [FairfieldLife] Pundit Assault

2010-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:43 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundit Assault On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The other day, in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread seventhray1
Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: As you say, different strokes for different folks. This is why it is profoundly important on a spiritual path that you take advantage of what your karma delivers on your doorstep, but also that you are self-referrential enough to recognize when it is time to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aunt Toby Busts the Billionaires

2010-08-07 Thread fflmod
I nominate Aunt Toby (whoever that is) for Presient. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Before you start feeling all warm and fuzzy about 40 billionaires donating 50% of their wealth to charity, you should read Aunt Toby's rant about it at Firedoglake.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Aunt Toby Busts the Billionaires

2010-08-07 Thread gullible fool
  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/business/global/05legal.html?_r=1src=meref=general   Under the influence of maya, Brahman appears as Ishvara, the personal God, who exists on the celestial level of life, in the subtlest field of creation. In a similar manner, under the influence of

[FairfieldLife] Response to Curtis

2010-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
From the woman I referred to earlier, who had her own experience with M: Curtis wanted to know what I think of M today and how I reconcile it all. ok. here goes. I think we have to separate the public man from the private man. The public man had a lot to offer to the world. We don't know a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:

2010-08-07 Thread shukra69
the transcending chinese is a Qi gong practice, it typically takes years to get the same results as beginning TM. the other Vedic ones are NOT transcending. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: what about that automatic transcending chinese meditation that was

RE: [FairfieldLife] Response to Curtis

2010-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
My observation on all this is that if the people in the movement are the proof of the pudding, then the pudding must be somewhat spoiled. Granted, people are flawed by definition, and despite their flaws, TM people have accomplished impressive things, but I've met people from other spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?

2010-08-07 Thread sgrayatlarge
Man Curtis, I don't remember any of that, I was never closer than the next to the last row, probably a good thing because I could easily leave those most annoying lectures and simply count the days before I leave hell! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aunt Toby Busts the Billionaires

2010-08-07 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote:   http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/business/global/05legal.html?_r=1src=meref=general   Thanks, gullible. Good article. We've lost so many manufacturing jobs in America there isn't a pot to piss in unless it's made in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Curtis

2010-08-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: First thanks for responding. It is rare that anyone still as into the movement as you obviously are posts here. I think I understand better how you think about Maharishi given that you had to integrate a bit more than the rest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Curtis

2010-08-07 Thread raunchydog
Rick, your pudding metaphor for TM doesn't make sense. You start out saying the pudding is spoiled then you end up contradicting yourself, His success in bringing meditation to the world certainly transformed my life. Get off the fence. Is the pudding spoiled or not? Making a pronouncement

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?

2010-08-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Man Curtis, I don't remember any of that, I was never closer than the next to the last row, probably a good thing because I could easily leave those most annoying lectures and simply count the days before I leave hell! I

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Curtis

2010-08-07 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Curtis Rick, your pudding metaphor for TM doesn't make sense. You start out

[FairfieldLife] THE RAJA's as Fisher Of Men

2010-08-07 Thread merudanda
M Ward - Fisher Of Men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCuomohWdE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCuomohWdE0 similar e-mail on the side from before Posted by: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com?subject= Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%202010%20Summer%20Session%20IAA dhamiltony2k5

[FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Curtis

2010-08-07 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: What I'm saying is that Maharishi promised numerous benefits from the practice of his techniques, but neither he nor any of his students exemplified those benefits to the degree to which they were advertised. Thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Curtis

2010-08-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: My observation on all this is that if the people in the movement are the proof of the pudding, then the pudding must be somewhat spoiled. Exactly. My impression, reading the comments lately, is that most of them were written