[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
...you forgot to add that you don't read her posts, except in Message View. C'mon Turq, at least LIE consistently! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I think that the reason most people tune out what they call the Judy-Barry Wars is that they ARE boring.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
The thing is Turq, is that not only are you trying to enlighten people on FFL wrt assumptions they may be making, the only reason for someone thinking differently according to you is that they are wrong or stupid or brainwashed or attacking and dumping on you. You aren't trying to challenge

[FairfieldLife] The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-15 Thread turquoiseb
[ Caveat: What follows is my opinion, and in fact my considered opinion, arrived at after decades of being part of the TMO from the inside and observing it and its members from the outside. You are well within your rights to believe something else, because after all, it is nothing BUT opinion.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-15 Thread Buck
Take those dome numbers as goal, they are purposefully unifying: This is a critical time and a tremendous opportunity for all of us. We cannot afford to fall back from what we have accomplished so far. We need to sustain and build upon what we have created over these past four years—and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: That's really my whole point in chiming in, wayback. So MANY people buy into the guna idea, which means in my opinion that they're buying into the idea of being Not Responsible (as the Firesign Theater guys used to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:46 PM, Joe wrote: Judy, the reason I don't comment on the Judy/Barry wars is that those are the very reason I bail for extended periods of time. All of this angst over who said what, and how many times and the extensive cataloging for the record (what ever the hell

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread Buck
This is all fine and can explain something of how natural law works in the body. Life in the body, of even the awakened. But what of the influence of growing up, culture? Learning manners? Skill-sets of social grace or not. Socialization. Some people obviously do groups better than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's really my whole point in chiming in, wayback. So MANY people buy into the guna idea, which means in my opinion that they're buying into the idea of

[FairfieldLife] Plan, er, B, from Outer Space??

2011-02-15 Thread cardemaister
So cute, those young maito-parta (milk-beard) idealists: http://nokiaplanb.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 5:34 AM, blusc0ut wrote: For me, in my experience it is all about shakti. And it is not based on some kind of more or less abstract reflection/ justification. I came up with this recognition more than 20 years ago. I realized there were oddities / discrepancies between

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
OTOH, I see Judy's writing as very precise, which is appropriate for this forum. Sometimes I agree with her and sometimes I don't. Nonetheless she applies clear and correct logic every time. The deal with Barry is he regularly twists what others have said in order for his arguments to make

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
Same reason I had less and less to do with the TMO over the years - I saw established arrogance and corruption. The last TM course I went on was that big Washington DC one about 20 years ago. I was quite excited when it was announced and immediately reserved and paid for a single room for

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote: If hearing that makes you uptight and makes you think that I am attacking you by saying it, you might want to look into that reaction, and try to figure out where it came from. It sounds a lot like religious fundamentalism to me. While in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I see it, what happens in the universe is the sum total of all of the individual actions made by all of the individual sentient beings in it -- no guidance behind it, no Plan behind it, just karma plus free will. I *get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As I see it, what happens in the universe is the sum total of all of the individual actions made by all of the individual sentient beings in it -- no guidance

[FairfieldLife] Checking and Auditing merged (was: Re: Absolute Silence)

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: To change the safety problem KAL in consulting had to bring veteran American pilots from Delta Airlines who literally had to break the Korean culture to get them to communicate effectively inside the cockpits to be able to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:00 AM, wgm4u wrote: So Turq-How did you get introduced to the idea of 'Karma', was it MMY? If so, don't you have something to be grateful for from Maharishi? That knowledge alone may save you from much suffering in life PS. BTW, isn't freewill and Karma a

[FairfieldLife] Talk about karma... (Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers)

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
PALM COAST, Fla. – The Dalai Lama's nephew was killed along a Florida coastal highway during one of his long treks to bring awareness to the Tibetan struggle for independence from China, officials said. Jigme K. Norbu was hit after dark Monday on the side of the unlit highway by an SUV. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: ...and don't the administration of the laws of Karma require 'guidance'? Not at all. In my view karma is pure physics -- every action has an equal and opposite reaction -- admin- istered on a purely physical level

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Actually I don't recall MMY giving a good explanation of the different types of karma anywhere. Can you cite source? You're right, I don't think he ever broke it down into the classical system of Kriyaman, Sanchit and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 5:34 AM, blusc0ut wrote: For me, in my experience it is all about shakti. And it is not based on some kind of more or less abstract reflection/ justification. I came up with this recognition more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: For me, in my experience it is all about shakti. And it is not based on some kind of more or less abstract reflection/justification. I came up with this recognition more than 20 years ago. I realized there were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: snip It's

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-15 Thread Joe
Interesting to read through this list in light of all the comments about Scientology recentlyin fact you could sub out Scientology terms and LRH for MMY in much of this without breaking a sweat, especially the newer, better, we-really-mean-it-this-time-this-is-THE-one-you-need next course

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: IOW, you can't be a True Believer, because you know that it all, ALL can be wrong, and I agree, that you have to make your own judgements, go by your own sense of what is right and wrong, IN ANY GIVEN SITUATION,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:53 AM, blusc0ut wrote: I am also reminded of somebody from batgap here, Saronjini or something, who said, that she already thought she might have brain cancer, because of the strong currents in the top brain centre. Well, I can relate to that, I thought the same.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: It's a model that heed* me to make sense of this particular situation. It worked for me, that is all. And it allowed me to live with this situation without having to be a fundamentalist, or a TB of any sort. For others

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread Joe
And did you demand your money back? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Same reason I had less and less to do with the TMO over the years - I saw established arrogance and corruption. The last TM course I went on was that big Washington DC one about 20

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
What would you actually recommend to a person wanting to learn meditation? Do you recommend a book? Anything of Rama? I think you said that you wouldn't need to require personal instruction or an elaborated course. I sometimes meet people, and I cannot follow them up, they ask me for advise how

[FairfieldLife] The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread turquoiseb
Just as a followup, and hopefully the last word on the subject from my side, I want to try to clarify why I got involved in the recent discussion here. It was to point out that the whole thing was based on some- thing assumed to be true, and that this assumption is not to be assumed. Here's how I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-15 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: What would you actually recommend to a person wanting to learn meditation? Do you recommend a book? Anything of Rama? Nothing from Rama, nothing from Maharishi. If I say anything at all, it's to refer them to a couple of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking and Auditing merged (was: Re: Absolute Silence) [1 Attachment]

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
turquoiseb: At any moment you could and do something else... How are you going to just say Just say no to the force of gravity? Karma means action and reaction - are you thinking that there is a mental component to karma? Free will *has* to coexist with karma, or there would be no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
PS. BTW, isn't freewill and Karma a Plan?, and don't the administration of the laws of Karma require 'guidance'? Vaj: Actually I don't recall MMY giving a good explanation of the different types of karma anywhere. Can you cite source? Almost the entire MMY commentary on Bhagavad

[FairfieldLife] Checking and Auditing merged (was: Re: Absolute Silence)

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hilarious, how did you do it? Really cool. I especially like the part where it says: If Microsoft can make a bid for scientology..

[FairfieldLife] Re: The status of Charlie Lutes

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
The memory and influence of MMY in the world will fade out, tending to a few digital bits in some Wiki; as his supporters gradually die off. Joe: Which doesn't bode well for WillyTex's memory and influence in the world, does itseeing as how MMY actually did do something in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 12:33 PM, WillyTex wrote: PS. BTW, isn't freewill and Karma a Plan?, and don't the administration of the laws of Karma require 'guidance'? Vaj: Actually I don't recall MMY giving a good explanation of the different types of karma anywhere. Can you cite source?

[FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
With my plan, which is to create good paying jobs for everyone, people would pay next to zero income tax, and what they pay would be a flat tax that is equal and fair for everyone. Bhairitu: So you advocate a social jobs program like FDR had? No, free enterprise system. And a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
Actually I don't recall MMY giving a good explanation of the different types of karma anywhere. Can you cite source? Almost the entire MMY commentary on Bhagavad Gita is an explanation of karma, which is the central theme of the Gita: Arjuna's struggle with action or non-action at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 15, 2011, at 7:25 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Same reason I had less and less to do with the TMO over the years - I saw established arrogance and corruption. The last TM course I went on was that big Washington DC one about 20 years ago. Which was right when I was leaving DC and moving

Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking and Auditing merged (was: Re: Absolute Silence)

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hilarious, how did you do it? Really cool. I especially like the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 1:01 PM, WillyTex wrote: This is just blatant harassment; everyone knows that the Hindu explanation of karma is contained in the Bhagavad Gita! What's amazing is your blather about not having read the Gita comments by MMY and so you think I have little wisdom on karma for

[FairfieldLife] Big Daddy In The Sky with Diamonds

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
Shut me#65279; up, Scotty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Ar79f8aN8 Big Daddy In The Sky with Diamonds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGpCqsc2SK8

[FairfieldLife] Checking and Auditing merged (was: Re: Absolute Silence)

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking and Auditing merged (was: Re: Absolute Silence)

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hilarious, how did you do it? Really cool. I especially like the

[FairfieldLife] Re: KHOE interview: Vedic agriculture, Vedic garden design

2011-02-15 Thread turquoiseb
CAUTION: Word on the street is that the whole theory behind Vedic Garden Design was ripped off from the Kama Sutra, with unpredictable results: [I've Seen Bigger] http://whennaturegoesbad.com/2010/03/itll-do/attachment/64/ [Eat Your Potato!]

[FairfieldLife] TM makes you stupid

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.comwrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 7:25 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Probably Gallaudet College~~a nice campus, but definitely far away, esp. if you'd paid for a single. Did they at least drive you out there? If not, how did you get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/15/2011 09:52 AM, WillyTex wrote: With my plan, which is to create good paying jobs for everyone, people would pay next to zero income tax, and what they pay would be a flat tax that is equal and fair for everyone. Bhairitu: So you advocate a social jobs program like FDR had? No,

[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2011-02-15 Thread FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Members' Writings and Suggestions/newspaper.jpg Uploaded by : blusc0ut Description : SRM refounded - article in Herald Tribune You

Re: [FairfieldLife] iConfess: Coming to an iPad near you

2011-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/14/2011 04:21 AM, Vaj wrote: On Feb 13, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Costs too much. For the phone platforms studies show that people are usually unwilling to pay more than $5 for an app. And now they are squealing about paying 99 cents for games according to the game

Re: [FairfieldLife] Six Personality Types

2011-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/14/2011 02:36 PM, Vaj wrote: On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Bhairitu wrote: From this article on Wired.com about the company that records your phone calls so they can fit you into a hole so companies can better deal with you when you call. 1. Spock: Thoughts-based person who

[FairfieldLife] SRM refounded

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
[http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MM1aTTahtBsj8Wh1y8Eh8VOAgN63JLxbTOPwElYglY\ AKRqhFhyVYvAirzvUx3huGNWLwMq_d1iV2_hEBMGPjPHVqRw/Members%27%20%20Writing\ s%20and%20Suggestions/newspaper.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
With my plan, which is to create good paying jobs for everyone, people would pay next to zero income tax, and what they pay would be a flat tax that is equal and fair for everyone. So you advocate a social jobs program like FDR had? No, free enterprise system.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
Actually I don't recall MMY giving a good explanation of the different types of karma anywhere. Can you cite source? Almost the entire MMY commentary on Bhagavad Gita is an explanation of karma, which is the central theme of the Gita: Arjuna's struggle

Re: [FairfieldLife] The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:31 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Just as a followup, and hopefully the last word on the subject from my side, I want to try to clarify why I got involved in the recent discussion here. It was to point out that the whole thing was based on some- thing assumed to be true, and

[FairfieldLife] most important question

2011-02-15 Thread Yifu Xero
Subject: Fw: most important question Subject: most important question http://r9.fodey.com/2145/42b6dfec78df43f8adac1de036118433.0.gif .

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: Actually I don't recall MMY giving a good explanation of the different types of karma anywhere. Can you cite source? Almost the entire MMY commentary on Bhagavad Gita is an explanation of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Actually I don't recall MMY giving a good explanation of the different types of karma anywhere. Can you cite source?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
right, contributors! The flaw starts in IF - A; since it has to be parsed into 2 parts: a. if the Gunas control all actions, and b. then no one is the doer ... The problem here is that the entities in question (MMY, ...anyone); are composed of the Gunas as - elements + organs of action, will,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/15/2011 12:01 PM, WillyTex wrote: With my plan, which is to create good paying jobs for everyone, people would pay next to zero income tax, and what they pay would be a flat tax that is equal and fair for everyone. So you advocate a social jobs program like FDR had? No, free

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
Exactly, Richard!... ... A problem can occur with: Bondage occurs when the Purusha does not have discriminate knowledge and so gets misled as to it's own identity - thus MMY says Purusha is overshadowed by physical events and individuals erroneously identify with the body and the physical world.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
It was a long time ago - University of Maryland I think. I do recall my roommate showed up near midnight and the first thing he did was show me the rampant psoriasis on his arms and reassured me it wasn't contagious. I don't recall having to go anywhere else. If I did, I drove my car. It was a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
I was never impressed with his 1/3 of the Gita commentary. Or the Bhag. Gita itself. You? I am shocked! So unlike you Vaj - LOL :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 1:01 PM, WillyTex wrote: This is just blatant harassment; everyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
That's quite a story Turq, but for us sane individuals, what the hell are you talking about?? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: Interesting to read through this list in light of all the comments about Scientology recentlyin fact you could sub out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
Nope - I left the course of my own accord and figured that was my choice. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: And did you demand your money back? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Same reason I had less and less to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@... wrote: Exactly, Richard!... ... A problem can occur with: Bondage occurs when the Purusha does not have discriminate knowledge and so gets misled as to it's own identity - thus MMY says Purusha is overshadowed by physical events

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Duveyoung
I sent Curtis a note about the below. He said he's busy, but does scan FFL now and then. I'm down to about four writers -- if they're posting then I deem the thread worthy to inspect. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] iConfess: Coming to an iPad near you

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Android meditation apps and you don't need to install a program to look at them: https://market.android.com/search?q=meditation Since TM is still so high-priced and these folks continue to relentlessly advertise and proselytize, I think you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 3:11 PM, WillyTex wrote: Maybe you need a running commentary, but the Gita is dirt-simple: actions have consequences. Almost anyone can understand that. The question is: is there a mental component to karmic acts or is karma concerned with just physical acts? You're

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
thx, wrt the statement: I think that's because they don't do anything, or else, they do nothing: ... we have to be careful here to first define they. If they = the Self, then It is unencumbered regardless of whether the entity is a rock or an E'd person or a non-E'd person since Purusha as they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 4:23 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: I was never impressed with his 1/3 of the Gita commentary. Or the Bhag. Gita itself. You? I am shocked! So unlike you Vaj - LOL :-) Any commentary that includes repeated mention of a trademarked name, like transcendental meditation, over

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:31 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Just as a followup, and hopefully the last word on the subject from my side, I want to try to clarify why I got involved in the recent discussion here. It was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 3:11 PM, WillyTex wrote: Maybe you need a running commentary, but the Gita is dirt-simple: actions have consequences. Almost anyone can understand that. The question is: is there a mental component

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
http://gordonandthewhale.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/3stooges.bmp --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:31 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Just as a followup, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 7:25 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Same reason I had less and less to do with the TMO over the years - I saw established arrogance and corruption. The last TM course I went on was that big Washington

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
Bondage occurs when the Purusha does not have discriminate knowledge and so gets misled as to it's own identity - thus MMY says Purusha is overshadowed by physical events and individuals erroneously identify with the body and the physical world. ... yifuxero: The burden of proof is on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 5:46 PM, wgm4u wrote: You're referring to Gita 1-6. The actual B. Gita has 18 chapters. Karma is just the first 6. I have to wonder if any religious text which uses violence as a major theme, without deliberate interiorization (e.g. inner kalachakra, ego-slaying,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The three gunas idea, expressed in pseudocode

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
a. Right...(on a mental level, Shakti building up until it manifests physically); as in claims for reduced crime rates, etc. b. Then there's the rebound question, regardless of whether physical or mental (as you sow, etc); then the reaping. Unbelievers will say no, there's no boomering effect,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
interesting that you put Revelations on your list. I would put the Bible as a whole in the category of being dangerous. Leads to homophobia and attitudes of servility re: women. Then there's false expectations, say 2nd Thess. attributed to Paul, that points to some type of Rapture. Truly a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 5:46 PM, wgm4u wrote: You're referring to Gita 1-6. The actual B. Gita has 18 chapters. Karma is just the first 6. I have to wonder if any religious text which uses violence as a major theme,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
Pretty weak minded of you, Vaj. Dangerous *books*?? Really?? Are you kidding me? Better not go to the library Vaj - Too risky! LOL - I am embarrassed for you. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 5:46 PM, wgm4u wrote: You're referring

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
Free clue: Don't read these dangerous books. Guys you are blowing my mind with this thinking - sounds so, so...ignorant. Maybe you and Vaj should publish your entire list of DANGEROUS BOOKS. The only problem I can see is I might pee my pants laughing if you do. :-) --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 6:12 PM, yifuxero wrote: interesting that you put Revelations on your list. I would put the Bible as a whole in the category of being dangerous. Leads to homophobia and attitudes of servility re: women. Then there's false expectations, say 2nd Thess. attributed to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread Vaj
On Feb 15, 2011, at 6:26 PM, blusc0ut wrote: My preferred scriptures are the Avadhut Gita, the Ashtavakra Gita, and the Ribhu Gita. Are they on anybodies list? Just wondering if I can still read them. Maybe they are on the Neoadvaita WTF list. I really like the Avadhut and Ashtavakra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 6:26 PM, blusc0ut wrote: My preferred scriptures are the Avadhut Gita, the Ashtavakra Gita, and the Ribhu Gita. Are they on anybodies list? Just wondering if I can still read them. Maybe they are on

[FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-15 Thread WillyTex
I hope all you whiners that think people are lazy find yourselves laid off or YOUR pensions cut. Have you thought this through, because none of what you said is even being considered by your elected leaders to contain federal spending. Go figure. Bhairitu: I wonder why you continue

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-02-15 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Feb 12 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 19 00:00:00 2011 420 messages as of (UTC) Wed Feb 16 00:07:04 2011 50 authfriend jst...@panix.com 34 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 33 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com 31

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
when it comes to artwork, MMY's BG can't hold a candle to the ISKCON version, along with their Srimad Bhagavatam. (the concept of impersonal realization of the Self doesn't lend itself to paintings depecting the passtimes of Krishna...however fictitious. Check some of them out.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 15, 2011, at 4:53 PM, wayback71 wrote: I was completely bummed - not what I wanted or expected, or had paid for. There was no explanation of what happened to my reservation or why, though even at the remote facility, single rooms were still being held for absent Governors. I stayed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Daddy In The Sky and his enlightened helpers

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
Hal Lindsey probably had a strong influence on Reagan, with his best-selling books relating to eschatological themes (so-called end-times approaching Armageddon). (I knew him. We worked in the same office building in Santa Monica). The Wiki summary seems consistent with Reagan's mentality;

[FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-15 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: I hope all you whiners that think people are lazy find yourselves laid off or YOUR pensions cut. Have you thought this through, because none of what you said is even being considered by your elected leaders to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 4:53 PM, wayback71 wrote: I was completely bummed - not what I wanted or expected, or had paid for. There was no explanation of what happened to my reservation or why, though even at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-02-15 Thread Buck
Jeeesus fuking Xhrist. And, it's only Tuesday. Dear Moderators, it would proly be even better here if there was a 30 post limit. It was the best back when we briefly had that. 50 posts per week is way too much to get posted what needs to be said here really. Sure I got memory problems and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/ama/med/m-spellbound-the-wonder-filled-life-of-doug-henning-book.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 4:53 PM, wayback71 wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-15 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: I hope all you whiners that think people are lazy find yourselves laid off or YOUR pensions cut. Have you thought this through, because none

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-15 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Hey Shukra69, I am quite glad you have come on here to FFL willing to defend and speak for the TM-Rajas. I think it is wonderful. You have always seemed to be close to things orthodox TM when you post here. So tell us,

[FairfieldLife] Infinite Improbability Drive

2011-02-15 Thread yifuxero
http://neosurrealism.artdigitaldesign.com/modern-artists/?artworks/digital-art/infinite-improbability-drive.htmlfullsize

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-15 Thread Joe
Hey Shukra, what say your Rajas? That's fookin' funny Buck! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Hey Shukra69, I am quite glad you have come on here to FFL willing to defend and

[FairfieldLife] Raja redux

2011-02-15 Thread Yifu Xero
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-02-15 Thread Bhairitu
Uh Buck (for some reasons I always think of Showtime's The United States of Tara when I see this handle) , like there is only ONE person who has posted out. And don't think anyone else here minds that one. The second runner up is only at 34. And if a person posted equal numbers of posts

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