[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian collective farmers

2011-04-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Collective farmers, 1931 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42220.jpg We kolkhozniks... (shall) liquidate kulaks as a class. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkhoznik

[FairfieldLife] What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread cardemaister
According to Patañjali, all (sarvam) is misery (duHkham) to a vivekin (vivekinaH) for various reasons: pariNaama-taapa-saMskaara-duHkhair guNa-vRtti-virodhaac ca duHkham eva sarvam vivekinaH. (II 15) One of the reasons is 'guNa-vRtti-virodha'. Taimni thinks that compound word refers to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's hear it for Yifu!

2011-04-16 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: Yifu, whoever you are, thanks for the amazing series of historical photos you regularly post. I open every single one of these since they always provide insight into a time and a feeling. Yep, me too. The older the photo the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: According to Patañjali, all (sarvam) is misery (duHkham) to a vivekin (vivekinaH) for various reasons: pariNaama-taapa-saMskaara-duHkhair guNa-vRtti-virodhaac ca duHkham eva sarvam vivekinaH. (II 15) One of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian collective farmers

2011-04-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: Collective farmers, 1931 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42220.jpg We kolkhozniks... (shall) liquidate kulaks as a class. #1084;#1099;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian collective farmers

2011-04-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: Collective farmers, 1931 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42220.jpg We kolkhozniks... (shall) liquidate kulaks as a class. #1084;#1099;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russian collective farmers

2011-04-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: Collective farmers, 1931 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42220.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: German Parade Float

2011-04-16 Thread WLeed3
From: donlo...@verizon.net To: donlo...@verizon.net Sent: 4/15/2011 7:50:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fw: German Parade Float

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: now the animals, we are in trouble!

2011-04-16 Thread WLeed3
From: wle...@aol.com To: wle...@aol.com Sent: 4/16/2011 7:58:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: Fw: now the animals, we are in trouble! -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Myron H. Phelps' notes on Radhasoami

2011-04-16 Thread wgm4u
We say Potato, they say Potaaato, but it's probably Potato. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: 1913-14, notes taken from lectures of Babuji Maharaj. http://www.rsfaith.org/images/stories/RSFBooks/English/Phelps_Notes/phelps_notes_1.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if they gave a pile on party and no one came?

2011-04-16 Thread WillyTex
A certain someone will try -- as she does every week -- to diss several people she never gets tired of dissing... Bhairitu: I suspect that certain someone goes through life picking fights anyway. Most likely on other places than just FFL... This is your 'dissing'? Very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi in Iowa

2011-04-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if they gave a pile on party and no one came?

2011-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Apparently posted without a trace of irony on his part... No irony nor self-insight :- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: A new FFL posting week looms, and I think we all know what to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Myron H. Phelps' notes on Radhasoami

2011-04-16 Thread WillyTex
BillyG: ...it's probably Potato. Meditation on the 'sound current' is very similar to TM practice. The sound current in Radhasoami is a vibration which, like a place-holder for a bija mantra, is a yoga practice that provides an ideal opportunity for transcending. According to Randolph

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread WillyTex
However, the wise (though their own mind is totally free of all sorrow) consider all experiences painful as they are all the fruits of the actions of ignorance (Y.S. II.15). 'Enlightened Living' by Swami Venkatesananda http://tinyurl.com/33wy6kj http://tinyurl.com/33wy6kj

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: However, the wise (though their own mind is totally free of all sorrow) consider all experiences painful as they are all the fruits of the actions of ignorance (Y.S. II.15). Here, in 28 words, is why I don't consider much of

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: However, the wise (though their own mind is totally free of all sorrow) consider all experiences painful as they are all the fruits of the actions of

[FairfieldLife] Warhorse

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwu_d0xRhdI This is a breathtaking video of one of the most remarkable pieces of stagecraft I've ever seen. It's a demonstration of a life-sized horse puppet, one of several used in the British play Warhorse, which just opened in NYC. Each horse is manned by three

Re: [FairfieldLife] Des Moines, 1907

2011-04-16 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: Panorama of Des Moines, 1907 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/50260.jpg Except for it having added colour and the bordellos are better hidden now, it hasn't changed a bit.

Re: [FairfieldLife] TMer Joke

2011-04-16 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: Q: Why did the TMer throw out the can of Orange Juice? A: Because it said CONCENTRATE on the label. What happened to the TM? Why were they found in the shower, starved to death with the water still running?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi in Iowa

2011-04-16 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:45 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Or perhaps they simply don't see the great value in having a hug ? Got that right. I'm holding out for a hug from Dr. BM.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
This seems like it might turn into an interesting discussion of values. Personally I don't buy the Buddha line at all. It goes on that even when we have pleasure it doesn't last forever so it becomes suffering later. I find this a juvenile approach to life's ups and downs. It isn't that

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread Joe
It also smacks of a glorification of dissociation which is a psychological disorder, not some higher state. The more I learn about dissociation (mostly from the many books my wife, a licensed therapist...has acquired), the more I find myself asking if many of these so-called higher states

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: This seems like it might turn into an interesting discussion of values. Not sure values is the appropriate term. Personally I don't buy the Buddha line at all. Or rather, you don't buy what you understand

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think it is an important area to discuss in evaluating even the benefits of meditation. Dissociation is a valuable skill of our awareness. To be able to associate and dissociate at will is one of the goals of Neuro-linguistic Programming which I enjoy with more than a grain of salt. For

[FairfieldLife] I N V I T A T I O N Global Spring Assembly in MERU, Holland

2011-04-16 Thread merlin
Holland assembly to highlight     Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's gifts   of Total Knowledge to the world Global Good News 15 April 2011 The Global Spring Assembly in MERU, Holland, which begins 17 April, will feature a series of daily seminars on a variety of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Warhorse

2011-04-16 Thread Mike Dixon
Beautiful and much easier to clean up after! From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 9:45:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Warhorse   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwu_d0xRhdI This is a breathtaking video

[FairfieldLife] Two movies worth seeing

2011-04-16 Thread Mike Dixon
The Conspirator was excellent. However, I'm afraid it will be used as an excuse why we should not have military trials for terrorists at GITMO. I also saw Atlas Shrugged part 1, a low budget film based on Ayn Rand's novel which hits a little too close for comfort.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread emptybill
Petty Theosophistry posturing as insight. Saying Taimini says it all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: According to Patañjali, all (sarvam) is misery (duHkham) to a vivekin

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This seems like it might turn into an interesting discussion of values. Not sure values is the appropriate term. So what is a better one?

[FairfieldLife] Saudarya Lahari

2011-04-16 Thread emptybill
All modern Western scholars of Shankara or Advaita firmly reject the claim that Adi-Shankara was the author of either Ananda-Larari or Saundarya-Lahari. You keep saying this but that does not make it so. Although some devotional Advaitins may like these texts/songs, they are still Shakta

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: This seems like it might turn into an interesting discussion of values. That's how I saw it. What, after all, are the *techniques* espoused by a person who considers *all* experiences painful likely to

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread curtisdeltablues
I appreciate the detailed response and validation. From Joe too. I do enjoy reviewing ideas here in fresh way without the assumptions contained in spiritual systems. Especially the one that claims that we are not in a state to be able to evaluate statements for ourselves. If you reject the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Two movies worth seeing

2011-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/16/2011 11:05 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: The Conspirator was excellent. However, I'm afraid it will be used as an excuse why we should not have military trials for terrorists at GITMO. I also saw Atlas Shrugged part 1, a low budget film based on Ayn Rand's novel which hits a little too

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I appreciate the detailed response and validation. From Joe too. I do enjoy reviewing ideas here in fresh way without the assumptions contained in spiritual systems. It's almost like a free speech zone.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warhorse

2011-04-16 Thread jpgillam
A few years ago I saw a few shows by a marionette troupe that performed on tabletops. The puppet operators stood behind the table, operating the marionettes and speaking the roles. Yet despite the fact that these humans were clearly moving their puppets and speaking their puppets' parts, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: This seems like it might turn into an interesting discussion of values. Personally I don't buy the Buddha line at all. It goes on that even when we have pleasure it doesn't last forever so it becomes

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread wayback71
I posted two similar responses - thought the first did not go thru. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This seems like it might turn into an interesting discussion of

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I appreciate the detailed response and validation. From Joe too. I do enjoy reviewing ideas here in fresh way without the assumptions contained in spiritual systems. Especially the one that claims that we

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: This seems like it might turn into an interesting discussion of values. Personally I don't buy the Buddha line at all. It goes on that even when we have pleasure it doesn't last forever so it becomes

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Petty Theosophistry posturing as insight. Saying Taimini says it all. II 23 sva-svaami-shaktyoH svaruupopalabdhi-hetuH saMyogaH. Taimni's translation: The purpose of the coming together of the /puruSa/ and /prakRti/ is

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This seems like it might turn into an interesting

[FairfieldLife] Geoffrey Baker

2011-04-16 Thread feste37
I heard that Geoffrey Baker died a day or so ago. He must have been nearly 90. He came to the States in about 1979, I think, from England, and was at MUM ever since. In the 1980s and 90s he was very well known for his Sunday morning art history lectures on campus, and the lecture hall was

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
Just for giggles, here's a Theraveda outline of the Four Noble Truths. Note the specificity of the First Noble Truth, which is typically shortened to Life is suffering. (Words in all-caps are my emphasis.) - 1. The Nature of Suffering (or Dukkha): This is the noble truth of suffering: birth

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip That's how I saw it. What, after all, are the *techniques* espoused by a person who considers *all* experiences painful likely to *result in* -- someone who enjoys life and its joys, or someone who rejects them?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Two movies worth seeing

2011-04-16 Thread Mike Dixon
Oh Bhairitu, you'll love Atlas Shrugged, but for different reasons than myself. It's about capitalism and the failure of the nanny state and how politics brings it all down and shackles those that can turn things around. You'll love to hate it! You're right, there shouldn't be any military

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip One way of viewing Patanjali is as a guy who was never any good at the normal skills of human interaction. I don't think that the guy ever scored in high school. It's possible that he never scored, period. So he

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )

2011-04-16 Thread emptybill
II.24 The correlation/conjoining (of seer and seen) is the reason for the apprehension of the own-form of the power of the owner and the owned. - from the works of George Firestone My gripe is about the theosophistry of his commentaries on most of the sutra-s. I also find his translations

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-04-16 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 16 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 23 00:00:00 2011 54 messages as of (UTC) Sun Apr 17 00:05:53 2011 7 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 7 authfriend jst...@panix.com 5 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 4

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warhorse

2011-04-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@... wrote: A few years ago I saw a few shows by a marionette troupe that performed on tabletops. The puppet operators stood behind the table, operating the marionettes and speaking the roles. Yet despite the fact that these humans

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geoffrey Baker

2011-04-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: I heard that Geoffrey Baker died a day or so ago. He must have been nearly 90. He came to the States in about 1979, I think, from England, and was at MUM ever since. In the 1980s and 90s he was very well known for his Sunday

[FairfieldLife] Farming Fuel, eroding the land

2011-04-16 Thread Buck
I went out recently and took pictures of the Iowa landscape in erosion. Take a look: https://sites.google.com/site/commodityagsoilerosion/ -Buck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkhoznik the collectivization of farms and land to allow

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geoffrey Baker

2011-04-16 Thread seventhray1
Perfect. This is about how much new insight Buck typically provides to these news items. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I heard that Geoffrey Baker died a day or so ago. He must have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Farming Fuel, eroding the land

2011-04-16 Thread John
Products from the land should be food for people, not for machines. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I went out recently and took pictures of the Iowa landscape in erosion. Take a look: https://sites.google.com/site/commodityagsoilerosion/ -Buck