[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread maskedzebra
The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by Maharishi Another opinion: MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a realized man leaves the body it's the experience of greatest happiness-bliss. RESPONSE: Wrong. Maharishi has no

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Hard not to love Sid the Kid. Hockey will never be the same until he is playing again. I know just how you feel. I have all those same

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: I do not think researchers promoting TM have made their case regarding a unique state of consciousness. As consciousness is usually defined in spiritualtraditions, it is given attributes that place

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by Maharishi Another opinion: MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a realized man leaves the body it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: (Problems with meditation research were highlighted recently when a study on hypertension lead by an MUM physician was pulled just minutes before publication in a major journal.) The researchers shot

[FairfieldLife] 'Washington Chain Saw Massacre'

2011-08-03 Thread Robert
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by Maharishi Another opinion: MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a realized man leaves the body it's the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Aug 2, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: Yeah, I'm trying to emulate Tom's unconditional hatred, it's tough but I'll learn - I wish I was born with it like him, he makes it look so easy, effacing, effervescent,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Small Pond Syndrome

2011-08-03 Thread Ravi Yogi
Yes. Check with me before you get any smart ideas to venture out from your Shallolalaland. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Does this mean going deep is the same as being different? From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com Yeah, there's more man hugs down there, Bob, than up here. Two cowboys doing the Brokeback thing up here? You'd never get the dramatic conflict that you would there in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Ravi Yogi
Don't take that seriously, have been here in US for almost half of my life. I don't know how American or enlightened I am but I have learned how to make the low-vibe, slimeball writer types as my bitches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: snip --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Imagine presenting this idea to the doctors at The Harvard Medical School—or to Socrates—or to Wittgenstein... Here you go again RC - coercing those Western big guns into your hockey team. (Why do you try to do that?).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness

2011-08-03 Thread Vaj
On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:00 AM, sparaig wrote: Well, research published since 1981 has attempted to identify markers of pure consciousness. I've posted this before. Did you bother reading, or did you just miss my earlier posts? Yes, but do they have anything on Pussy Willow Consciousness?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness

2011-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (Problems with meditation research were highlighted recently when a study on hypertension lead by an MUM physician was pulled just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul coming to Fairfield Tues Aug 9th! - Please forward widely

2011-08-03 Thread jpgillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: The free market thing doesn't work. I applaud Paul for speaking out against the war spending and questioning the existence of the Federal Reserve but not Austrian economics. It just sounds good to people who don't understand economics.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread whynotnow7
MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a realized man leaves the body it's the experience of greatest happiness-bliss. maskedzebra: Wrong. Maharishi has no direct or verifiable knowledge of this. Yet another opinion: Hi maskedzebra (I am assuming Grevy's...),

[FairfieldLife] Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread turquoiseb
Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the reasons mindfulness is making inroads into PC-sensitive environments such as publicly-funded schools, in which other techniques such as TM might encounter difficulties, is that mindfulness can be completely secularized. It can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stand Down

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
Thank you, guys, two out of two ain't bad! On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:08 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Damn, that is really good Mark - reminds me of Savitri by Sri Aurobindo. Hang in there buddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
turquoiseb: ...mindfulness can be completely secularized. Mindfullness is a Buddhist religious practice, so it might be difficult to completely secularize it. If you tried to do so, you'd get something very much similar to the TM practice. In order to totally secularize the Shamtha pratices

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (Problems with meditation research were highlighted recently

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the reasons mindfulness is making inroads into PC-sensitive environments such as publicly-funded schools, in which other techniques such as TM might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Price
Wonder if Tourette's Syndrome would be an effective defence in a workplace sexual harassment suit?  From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 2:15:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
turquoiseb: If the meditation practices you suggest use mantras, where would they come from? The source of the bija mantras used in TM and in the Tibetan Dzogchen have the same source: the Tantric Tradition which was established in India during the Gupta Age. The bija mantras used in

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Price
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 2:11:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com   Yeah,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul coming to Fairfield Tues Aug 9th! - Please forward widely

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Pall
If it's nutty, hopeless, idealistic and nothing more, you'll see it in FF. Is that Ron Paul billboard still up in front of Overland Trading? If yes, that would make it's 6th year there. Learn TM, listen to Maharishi a bit and you spend the rest of your life being the champion of lost causes,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video: Max Keiser America will lose it's sovereignty

2011-08-03 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Bhairitu: But the debt shouldn't have been run up in the first place. Who did that? The Republicans. Well, let's go figure: Which U.S. political party has been in control of the U.S. Congress for the last decade? The best thing that may be able to be said about it is that it avoids

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread emptybill
MZ, You have not offered a differing explanation. You have only provided a commentary from a competing theology. Above all, you seem unaware of the theological history behind your selected theology. What's next … the Sin-Guilt-Redemption dialectic of Western Christianity? Or … Our Ransom was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video: Max Keiser America will lose it's sovereignty

2011-08-03 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
The only fair income tax is no tax, but I would vote for a flat income tax Denise Evans: Really? I don't see that in the link you sent... A flatter tax system with fewer special tax incentives or subsidies for various interests and a lower overall rate structure would enhance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video: Max Keiser America will lose it's sovereignty

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
The Democrats aren't a single political party. They are a coalition of many small parties going by a single name. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: Bhairitu: But the debt shouldn't have been run up in the first place. Who did that?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Small Pond Syndrome

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Price
Herr Edelstein, We will have to do something about that stutter before taking your show on the road- but before  we dwell too much on the angle of my dive, I'd like to explore your concept of alcohol abuse  being a state of higher consciousness. You could be on to something: His craving for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul coming to Fairfield Tues Aug 9th! - Please forward widely

2011-08-03 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
I applaud Paul for speaking out against the war spending and questioning the existence of the Federal Reserve... jpgillam: Ron Paul's objection to the Federal Reserve is another stand that seems silly to me... In fact, the Federal Reserve is a private bank that is designed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: GI Joe 1980's Animated TV series Predicts Economic Collapse

2011-08-03 Thread Jean
Links to view the episode online are included in my review. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jean jeanjessup@... wrote: In light of the recent debt ceiling vote, Here's my review of the 1980's animated series GI Joe's Money To Burn episode (2nd of 2 reviewed)

[FairfieldLife] GI Joe 1980's Animated TV series Predicts Economic Collapse

2011-08-03 Thread Jean
In light of the recent debt ceiling vote, Here's my review of the 1980's animated series GI Joe's Money To Burn episode (2nd of 2 reviewed) http://www.moviereviewsfromaspiritualperspective.com/mainstream-movie-reviews/gi-joe-animated-tv-series

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread whynotnow7
Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make assumptions in order to create a path to ultimate freedom. The more important point is, imo, how's that working for you, or me? Why can't we have our God and secularize it too? Perhaps enjoy our rational secular viewpoint at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul coming to Fairfield Tues Aug 9th! - Please forward widely

2011-08-03 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/03/2011 06:09 AM, jpgillam wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: The free market thing doesn't work. I applaud Paul for speaking out against the war spending and questioning the existence of the Federal Reserve but not Austrian economics. It just sounds good to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: *The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened.* Maharishi: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a realized man leaves the body it's the experience of

[FairfieldLife] A couple of movie recommendations

2011-08-03 Thread Bhairitu
I wasn't expecting Quarantine 2: Terminal to be much of anything but the disc was in my Netflix queue and arrived yesterday on it's release date. Both it and the original Quarantine with Jennifer Carpenter (Dexter) are based on the Spanish horror thriller Rec about a TV news crew covering a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
death is beautiful death is a friend death is familiar as our very own breath we have all died a million times we all know death in the realm of Yama ideas don't matter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
Before the Lord it might. On Aug 3, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Bob Price wrote: Wonder if Tourette's Syndrome would be an effective defence in a workplace sexual harassment suit? From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 2:15:21 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread emptybill
... or secularize that creation into the humanity we feel for each other? Doesn't have to be an either/or situation. Already here. Its called Buddhism. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make

[FairfieldLife] Europe on the Brink

2011-08-03 Thread emptybill
Europe on Brink of 'Major Financial Collapse': Guggenheim CIO Published: Tuesday, 2 Aug 2011 | 1:24 PM ET By: Gennine Kelly http://www.cnbc.com/id/15837548/cid/154698 Web Producer, CNBC Europe is a train wreck and on the brink of a major financial crisis http://www.cnbc.com/id/38451750/ , Scott

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: RESPONSE: Transcending in TM, does it mean the actual individual flesh and bones human being stops existing? What possible relevance does transcending in TM have to do with dying Transcending is 'conscious' dying,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread whynotnow7
Yep, *everything* is already here. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: ... or secularize that creation into the humanity we feel for each other? Doesn't have to be an either/or situation. Already here. Its called Buddhism. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
This is was profound post for me. I believe Sam Harris has taken your questions pretty seriously and has written about possible answers. The comparison between TM and proprietary software is right on. Getting TM into schools will always be saddled with the same problems as an other religious

[FairfieldLife] ZomGas 7 (could be a visa for Jesus - was Zombie in my Gas Tank)

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Price
Since one of our  favourite Canadians is feeling too delicate to be interviewed on ZomGas the producers have decided that our very favourite Jew, Jesus of Nazareth, is more than up to taking his place in the exalted  number 7 spot. For something different we've decided 12 answers following by 3

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
Not on this. I saw his anger in two modes, while he was devastating people and kicking them out, me included, so I have this experience from the inside, and in a group when he got pissed for whatever reason. Was anyone in the hotel in Mallorca II where he busted everyone for sharing

[FairfieldLife] Two Angels With One Back

2011-08-03 Thread PaliGap
Iago: I am one, sir, that comes to tell you your daughter and the Moor are now making the beast with two backs. http://youtu.be/GXJiBVGHU5s I feel mystical union really gets going at around 1:20

[FairfieldLife] Different Experience-immortal body

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
M talked about developing the immortal body on numerous occasions (well, at least 4 or 5 in my hearing). He also talked about historical (Indian, of course) figures for whom there is no record of them having passed away. Drunvalo claims to have met Thoth and learned from him. When I was in

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Landau Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-) Not on this. I saw his anger in two modes, while he

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Landau Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-) Not on this. I saw his anger in two modes, while he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make assumptions in order to create a path to ultimate freedom. This is the problem, there actually is a huge difference including the embedded belief like the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: This is was profound post for me. Thanks for this, Curtis. I figured that you'd be one of the folks who would get the intent behind these questions. Given the polarity we see around us behind the duality of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Snip We were driving at night in Germany, late, trying to catch a ferry. I think the world knows how punctual the Germans are about such things. As was his wont, he would give me a little hand signal when I could speed through

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/03/2011 10:50 AM, Mark Landau wrote: Not on this. I saw his anger in two modes, while he was devastating people and kicking them out, me included, so I have this experience from the inside, and in a group when he got pissed for whatever reason. Was anyone in the hotel in Mallorca II

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread do.rflex
...when you die the anguish can be greater than the stings of thousands of scorpions. ~~ Guru Dev [MMY's teacher, Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati] This teaching [extended below] from Guru Dev is likely where Maharishi got the idea that death [separation from the body upon its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the reasons mindfulness is making inroads into PC-sensitive environments such as publicly-funded schools, in which other techniques such as TM might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Europe on the Brink

2011-08-03 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/03/2011 10:08 AM, emptybill wrote: Europe on Brink of 'Major Financial Collapse': Guggenheim CIO Published: Tuesday, 2 Aug 2011 | 1:24 PM ET By: Gennine Kellyhttp://www.cnbc.com/id/15837548/cid/154698 Web Producer, CNBC Europe is a train wreck and on the brink of a major financial

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
This was during my time. I was skin boy, I was driving, M was shotgun. I can't imagine Charlie being one of the people in the back seat. Did Charlie say it was in Germany? Then maybe he was. He did come spend a little time with M a few times during my 5 years there, but I don't remember

[FairfieldLife] 'He Stands Alone for the Poor'

2011-08-03 Thread Robert
So, there he was, at the White House, Stunned by the actualty, that 'They[s] would actually take the: World Economy into the Toilet... They were actually willing, in a 'Religious Way'... To, 'prove' a 'black man' couldn't rule, 'them'... 'They'  put an 'Inhuman Face' on the 'Entity[s] which they

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
Weird coincidence. Charlie told the story as his own but then I think he did that a lot even with stuff he read in Rosicrucian books. I first heard it in the mid to late 70's. Your story about his telling you to go parad'n was actually captured on film:

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Olympia Snowe Lied to Us

2011-08-03 Thread WLeed3
From: i...@nationalteapartyalert.com To: wle...@aol.com Sent: 8/2/2011 3:00:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Olympia Snowe Lied to Us Please read this special message from our friend, Scott D'Amboise.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Astroview Weekly Newsletter

2011-08-03 Thread WLeed3
From: da...@astroview.com To: da...@astroview.com Sent: 8/2/2011 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Astroview Weekly Newsletter Dear Friends: As many of you know, I have been writing my “Planetary Transits” newsletter 50 times a year for

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: All eyes are on Iowa

2011-08-03 Thread WLeed3
From: ron_p...@ronpaul2012.com To: wle...@aol.com Sent: 8/2/2011 3:29:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: All eyes are on Iowa Dear William, What is Mitt Romney afraid of? When news came out that Big Government establishment Republican Mitt

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: One of those siddhis makes people always receive you pleasantly. The one for women is called Bodacious Tatas. For men you have to be the one who shows up with super hydro bud. On 08/03/2011 10:50 AM, Mark Landau wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
On Aug 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Yup, Charlie Lutes told the same story and I still have the book it is in. I haven't looked it up but I think he said it took place when in British Columbia. The siddhi is Stambhan. It allows one to mentally paralyze or put them in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: This was during my time. I was skin boy, I was driving, M was shotgun. I can't imagine Charlie being one of the people in the back seat. Did Charlie say it was in Germany? Your memory appears to be faulty, Mark. Charlie

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Landau Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-) This was during my time. I was skin boy, I was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/03/2011 12:33 PM, Mark Landau wrote: On Aug 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Yup, Charlie Lutes told the same story and I still have the book it is in. I haven't looked it up but I think he said it took place when in British Columbia. The siddhi is Stambhan. It allows one to

[FairfieldLife] I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread Beth Cook
My name is Beth, I'm from Canada. I was just initiated into Transcendental Meditation and I just joined Fairfield Life. I'm hoping to learn  more about meditation but I'm concerned my  questions have already been discussed. Should I look  in the Fairfield Life archives or can I just post my

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Beth Cook bethcook84@... wrote: My name is Beth, I'm from Canada. I was just initiated into Transcendental Meditation and I just joined Fairfield Life. I'm hoping to learn  more about meditation but I'm concerned my  questions have already been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: The different experience of dying by the ignorant and the enlightened by Maharishi Another opinion: BlahBlahBlah Why use so many words ? All you had to say is Maharishi was an ignorant clown and I know much

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: snip I'm sure he would use the same trick given the same situation. It could also be that the conflation of simultaneity with causation is the easiest way to manufacture a miracle out of what would otherwise be an ordinary

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Beth Cook bethcook84@... wrote: My name is Beth, I'm from Canada. I was just initiated into Transcendental Meditation and I just joined Fairfield Life. I'm hoping to learn  more about meditation but I'm concerned my  questions have already been

Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 7 (could be a visa for Jesus - was Zombie in my Gas Tank)

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: Since one of our favourite Canadians is feeling too delicate to be interviewed on ZomGas the producers have decided that our very favourite Jew, Jesus of Nazareth, is more than up to taking his place in the exalted

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@... wrote: snip Your memory appears to be faulty, Mark. Charlie told us that story himself and it's in the book MAHARISHI, THE GURU the Story of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi by MARTIN, EDITOR EBON (Paperback - 1968). Er, that would be MARTIN

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 08/03/2011 12:33 PM, Mark Landau wrote: On Aug 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Yup, Charlie Lutes told the same story and I still have the book it is in. I haven't looked it up but I think he said it took place when in British

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread Beth Cook
Thank you for your post. I've looked through some of the previous posts and it looks like a very lively forum:-). I'm a mother of 6 and I have been meditating for 4 months. My meditation leaves me very relaxed and happy.  One problem I have is ending the meditation at 20 minutes. After

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
Oh you doubting Thomas, you should've seen the poor captain standing there completely zoned out and the facial expressions of his crewmen. I can assure you, just as convincing as sticking your fingers in the wound. On Aug 3, 2011, at 2:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Jesus in the Gas Tank

2011-08-03 Thread Yifu
In the Sink: does this imply that redemption of sins is a washout? http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_artFileName=Sink-Jesus Will the FAA prohibit planes from having both the pilot and copilot as Christians (lest they both be Raptured leaving the plane to crash)?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Price
Welcome Beth, Your initiator  should be able to give you the names of Catholic clergy that meditate and are willing  to speak with your husband. My wife suggested you cancel your cable. She said with that many kids washing the dishes would be a better use of his time than watching ESPN. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Oh you doubting Thomas, you should've seen the poor captain standing there completely zoned out and the facial expressions of his crewmen. I'm not doubting that he was zoned out and it may have been unusual for him. What I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Beth Cook bethcook84@... wrote: Thank you for your post. I've looked through some of the previous posts and it looks like a very lively forum:-). That is one word for it! I'm a mother of 6 and I have been meditating for 4 months. My meditation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Landau
Well, as I said, since I experienced him doing the same thing to me from the inside, and with all the other things I saw him do and experienced with him, it would be difficult for this POV to doubt that he caused it. On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:05 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Whoa hold on there Robin, in your hurry to attack M you don't seem to have paid much attention - I didn't hear anyone or Hinduism say that that the Self dies, it is the body that dies anywhere :-). And yes what they were

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Beth Cook bethcook84@... wrote: Thank you for your post. I've looked through some of the previous posts and it looks like a very lively forum:-). I'm a mother of 6 and I have been meditating for 4 months. My meditation leaves me very relaxed and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Don't take that seriously, have been here in US for almost half of my life. Are you originally from India ? Why did you leave for USA, if you don't mind me asking ?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make assumptions in order to create a path to ultimate freedom. This is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness

2011-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread feste37
Beth, There is a book published in 1983, TM: An Aid to Christian Growth, which contains several essays by Catholic priests, all of whom were meditators, which tackle the very questions you raise here. The book was based on papers given during a week-long workshop attended by Catholic TMers.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Europe on the Brink

2011-08-03 Thread emptybill
You mean the interstellar lizards and the grey dwarfs run the banks? Aren't they the just UFO-New Age-SciFi equivalent of Satan's demons? Can't we just pray to Jesus and be forgiven? …….. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Imagine presenting this idea to the doctors at The Harvard Medical School—or to Socrates—or to Wittgenstein... Here you go again RC - coercing

[FairfieldLife] Sri Gayathri Ashram

2011-08-03 Thread Yifu
Has a nice lively chant of the Gayatri: (don't know if this long address will take)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Gayathri Ashram

2011-08-03 Thread emptybill
A waste of time to hear it done like it was a musical. Better to learn it from a Pandit and then do it for a month. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Has a nice lively chant of the Gayatri: (don't know if this long address will take)

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Beth Cook bethcook84@... wrote: My name is Beth, I'm from Canada. I was just initiated into Transcendental Meditation and I just joined Fairfield Life.�I'm hoping to learn� more about meditation�but I'm concerned my� questions have already been

[FairfieldLife] Kirpal Singh on learning to die

2011-08-03 Thread Yifu
Learning to Die by Kirpal Singh (on the topic of controlled out of body travel)...which begs the question of what's traveling. Kirpal Singh uses the term Soul but further clarifies that as one or more subtle bodies dissasociated from the physical. And in light of the previous posted comments,

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Beth Cook bethcook84@... wrote: [...] One problem I have is ending the meditation at 20 minutes. After meditating for a few minutes I seem to drift off somewhere and before I know it 90 minutes have gone by. From my experience, and according to my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different experience of dying ignorant or enlightened

2011-08-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a realized man leaves the body it's the experience of greatest happiness-bliss. maskedzebra: Wrong. Maharishi has no direct or verifiable knowledge

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)

2011-08-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Oh you doubting Thomas, you should've seen the poor captain standing there completely zoned out and the facial expressions of his crewmen.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Secular Spirituality

2011-08-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: To a certain extent this is true. However, the City of Rio de Janeiro has put its entire school system on the waiting list to learn TM through the David Lynch Foundation. One million kids. That's pretty wide-spread

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Gayathri Ashram

2011-08-03 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: A waste of time to hear it done like it was a musical. Better to learn it from a Pandit and then do it for a month. Years ago, I learned Karunamayi's meditation version (as opposed to her kirtan version):

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