Enlightenment In Action (was Re: [FairfieldLife] It was good, while it lasted, huh?)

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
One final commentary, because it's so perfect I can't resist.  :-) From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Anyway, thank you for all the support in getting this place real. Let's send the ex-TM teachers back where

[FairfieldLife] A real treasure for those who loved Buckaroo Banzai

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Kevin Smith's 6-minute speech about this movie at the NY Film Festival is worth the cost of admission in itself, but then Buckaroo Banzai himself (Peter Weller) and Lord John Whorfin (John Lithgow) come onstage and swap reminiscences of making one of the most amazing cult movies ever made.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : He may have predated MMY by discussing consciousness as basis of all knowledge in the Bible passage: I AM WHO AM Popeye saw the wisdom of that too I don't believe the Hebrews knew what he was trying to convey back

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Buck, herein I'm doing what I think MJ is doing which is to respond from yahoo old format rather than from Neo. Next I'll respond from Neo. I'm guessing that MJ has the option too. On Sat, 5/17/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Note to Rick, Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Om, Rick as you are proly experiencing in these Batgap interviews, someone becoming a 'guru' in culture can be different than someone abiding in spiritual experience. In a range and distribution of spiritual folks some can become 'gurus' by virtue of just scholarship alone without even much

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Note to Rick, Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  It would be nice to learn where Sam Harris in experience is in effect with this scale as he is becoming a famous talking head in culture. Some people evidently can become cultural gurus just by virtue of their

[FairfieldLife] Fw: 8 of the World's Most Beautiful Gardens, How Your Mind Impacts Your Metabolism, Is Gluten 'Sensitivity' Real?

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
for noozguru... The Incredible Way Your Mind Affects Your Metabolism The Incredible Way Your Mind Affects Your Metabolism Get this -- your conscious mind can actually control the way your body metabolizes food. View on www.care2.com Preview by Yahoo   On Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:55 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: Expansion of the heart is in giving. Maximum expansion is through giving unboundedness.

2014-05-18 Thread Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]
Dear friends and others, David Hooper is a member of Maharishi's Purusha program who e-mails wonderful, free daily quotes from Maharishi to those who request them. The following are precious quotes about the expansion of heart I received yesterday and today. I recommend you e-mail to join

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Buck, a friend is working on Rick's categories at his request and I'll forward your comments to him. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:33 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just

[FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just throwing these Batgap illumined people interviewed thus far on a scatter graph by their experience and spiritual affect on others, it seems observable that some of the awakened are more proactive in affect as teachers,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi: Expansion of the heart is in giving. Maximum expansion is through giving unboundedness.

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dick, thank you for giving this gift... On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:27 AM, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Dear friends and others, David Hooper is a member of Maharishi's Purusha program who e-mails wonderful, free daily quotes from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:33 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:  In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just throwing these Batgap illumined people interviewed thus far on a scatter graph by their experience and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
turq, good point and I agree that we're all the same on some level. But if I have a toothache for example, I'd rather consult with a good dentist rather than a good podiatrist. My bad? On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I noticed the attempt at categorization on Batgap. It is lame. -Buck sharelong60 writes: Buck, a friend is working on Rick's categories at his request and I'll forward your comments to him. In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just throwing these

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rick should get someone much more scholarly to discern and categorize the interviewees spiritually if Rick is going to publish a categorical list like that and not just some earnest friend. First Rick ought to pull the list from the page for now, back up and think about it some more before

[FairfieldLife] One of the sexiest TM'ers?

2014-05-18 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgY1bRsCnv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgY1bRsCnv8

[FairfieldLife] Re: One of the sexiest TM'ers?

2014-05-18 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
tmhome.com/experiences/sheryl-crow-on-meditation/

[FairfieldLife] Re: One of the sexiest TM'ers?

2014-05-18 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Meh... But, of course, I'm highly biased. http://youtu.be/gP6FYQskKPM http://youtu.be/gP6FYQskKPM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgY1bRsCnv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgY1bRsCnv8

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In the west the categorization of spirituality technically falls in to 'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration'. The Batgap interviews in a more scholarly way often fall nicely in to this typology when looked at this way. -Buck Rick should get someone much more scholarly [with credentials] to

[FairfieldLife] Yogatón Maharishi

2014-05-18 Thread srijau
An entire district of Lima is being offered to be taught TM Meditación trascendental en La Victoria - La Primera http://laprimeraperu.pe/2014/05/17/meditacion-trascendental-en-la-victoria/ Meditación trascendental en La Victoria - La Primera

[FairfieldLife] 100 hundred particpants in Invvincible Ukraine

2014-05-18 Thread srijau
Invincible Ukraine http://www.invincible-ukraine.org/ daily updates scroll down Invincible Ukraine http://www.invincible-ukraine.org/ Creating Coherence and Harmony in the Collective Consciousness of Ukraine for Peace and Unity in the Nation View on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The burning bush was an experience, while absorbed in pure awareness.  On Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:04 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : He may have predated MMY by discussing consciousness as basis of all knowledge

[FairfieldLife] Re: One of the sexiest TM'ers?

2014-05-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nice earrings. Not to mention a total beauty! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Meh... But, of course, I'm highly biased. http://youtu.be/gP6FYQskKPM http://youtu.be/gP6FYQskKPM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Om, In the west the categorization of spirituality technically falls in to 'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration'. The Batgap interviews in a more scholarly way often fall nicely in to this typology when looked at this way. -Buck Those would be safer demarcations to categorize by that could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 5:43 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Buck, herein I'm doing what I think MJ is doing which is to respond from yahoo old format rather than from Neo. Next I'll respond from Neo. I'm guessing that MJ has the option too. Apparently MJ does not know how

[FairfieldLife] Re: A joke vs. enlightenment - Barry chooses the joke :-)

2014-05-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A joke, vs. enlightenment, and what do you do, Barry? You choose the joke. Get it? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One final commentary, because it's so perfect I can't resist. :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 8:10 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The burning bush was an experience, while absorbed in pure awareness. From what I've read, the story of the burning bush is a reference to experiencing a hallucination after ingesting manna, which was probably an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Anybody have any idea what she means by old Yahoo format? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Buck, herein I'm responding from Neo rather than old yahoo format. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 10:20 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yogatón Maharishi

2014-05-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hopefully they will have the good sense to say no. On Sun, 5/18/14, sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Yogatón Maharishi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 18, 2014, 12:54 PM  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Note to Rick, Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com It would be nice to learn where Sam Harris in experience is in effect with this scale as he is becoming a famous talking head in culture. Some people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : The burning bush was an experience, while absorbed in pure awareness. Were you there, or do you like reinterpreting everything through your own belief system too? On Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:04 AM, salyavin808

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Note to Rick, Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How would you even know, Barry? You have, by your own admission, no established silence in your daily activity - no enlightenment. This is the kind of thing that embarrasses others, watching you, an ex-TM teacher, with no clue about his, or any one else's liberation, pronouncing opinions and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Michael's posts have always looked just fine to me on the Web site. Maybe the problem is on your end, Buck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, MJ it is odd and unique. It is something [bad and unconventional] with you. -Buck mjackson74 writes: I'm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : You bet. I rode every day. I walked and trotted and cantered along the soybean and cornfield perimeters. I rode in the blizzardy freezingness of those snowy winter days when the snowdrifts mounded up high enough that my horse had to

[FairfieldLife] Dr. Jaan Suurküla

2014-05-18 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Suurküla, in Finnish suuri(-)kylä (soorry-kuelae), big(-)village: http://tmhome.com/experiences/interview-dr-jaan-suurkula-leader-of-the-tm-movement-in-estonia/ http://tmhome.com/experiences/interview-dr-jaan-suurkula-leader-of-the-tm-movement-in-estonia/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 6:33 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What is his spiritual experience around this that would allow him to be on Buddha at the Gas Pump anyway? According to what I've read, San Harris is a practicing Buddhist, so his experiences would be probably

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:33 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just throwing these Batgap illumined people interviewed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No one is making the case for ranking anyone else, as a human being. This persistent whine of yours, to just level-set everything; there is no enlightenment, no witnessing, no comparative values, for anything is very tiresome. This allows you to hide your spiritual failings, your lack of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, good point and I agree that we're all the same on some level. But if I have a toothache for example, I'd rather consult with a good dentist rather than a good podiatrist. My bad? Perhaps not... On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : You bet. I rode every day. I walked and trotted and cantered along the soybean and cornfield perimeters. I rode in the blizzardy freezingness of those snowy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : You bet. I rode every day. I walked and trotted and cantered along the soybean and cornfield perimeters. I rode in the blizzardy freezingness of those snowy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
More in line with a western scholarly discernment of spirituality and spiritual [illumined/awakened] teachers, those: -Meditation teachers, -Subtle system teachers, -Ritam Bhara Pragya people; as somewhat analogous to western, 'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration' in typology. -Buck In the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Michael's posts have always looked just fine to me on the Web site. Maybe the problem is on your end, Buck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, MJ it is odd and unique. It is something [bad and

[FairfieldLife] Non-TM Meditation Good for you.

2014-05-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, lookey there, mindfulness meditation heppin' military personnel rather than TM. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-05-meditation-stress-disorders-military-personnel.html Meditation training may help reduce stress disorders amo... Researchers from the University of California, San

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did TM *really* become so popular (for a while)?

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Yep, as many as 35,000 per month learned TM during the second Merv Wave. The numbers in the US are slowly picking up again. 8,000+ adults learned TM in 2012, which isn't even 10% of the Merv Wave numbers, but as Peter McWilliams told me he warned Maharishi about nearly 40 years ago: 35,000

[FairfieldLife] Casino blues

2014-05-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I went back to the slots, early last night, while wondering, if, early Saturday, the slots would be locked up. Yep, lost $100, in a couple of hours. They were even stalling paying out jackpots on the floor. A casino has to have a certain amount of cash reserves, and they must have been on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did TM *really* become so popular (for a while)?

2014-05-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good stuff - I'd like to see it offered as an option on the cable, or electric bill, as just another utility - learn TM, installment payments, etc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Yep, as many as 35,000 per month learned TM during the second Merv Wave. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 3:04 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :He may have predated MMY by discussing consciousness as basis of all knowledge in the Bible passage: I AM WHO AM Popeye saw the wisdom of that too Send in the clowns! The Popeye saying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Same sort of thing in the SF Bay Area - The news makes a big deal out of unseasonably hot weather, the first half of May, every year. As far as I can recall, it is a regular feature of Spring - getting blazing hot temps (close to 100F) for a week or so, in early May. And yet every time it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Maybe Rick can obtain a portable EEG machine and see what the EEG coherence of each awkened person is like. My guess is that there are going to be distinct differences between traditions, and there will be, if you look closely enough, differences in experience as well. For example, TMers

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I had trouble picking which tirade to respond to so i landed on this one by default. The messages from you are pretty much the same and provide a nice writing prompt. I will respond from two perspectives, from Maharishi's teaching POV and my own. You are attempting to launch an unpleasant

[FairfieldLife] Re: One of the sexiest TM'ers?

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I'm a much bigger fan of Sharon Isbin, which isn't surprising, given my background. Incidentally, Professor Isbin is 57 and has been doing TM for 41 years. It shows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5XJ5Qo2SJk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5XJ5Qo2SJk ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I don't know, but there IS something odd about some messages that get posted, or at least I see lots of extra stuff at the tail end of some messages and not others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Anybody have any idea what she means by old Yahoo format? ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 Yes On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:38 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : The burning bush was an experience, while absorbed in pure awareness.  Were you there, or do you like reinterpreting everything through

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : snip ...I was attempting to capture was something you would have, chronologically, been present for as well, albeit within a different context. You nailed it, you sent me back there. Especially in the first two years the context

[FairfieldLife] A 'dog whistle' to the left: Geithner and Obama

2014-05-18 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
By the libertarian Judge Andrew P. Napolitano http://www.foxnews.com/archive/andrew-napolitano http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/05/15/dog-whistle-to-left/?intcmp=obnetwork http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/05/15/dog-whistle-to-left/?intcmp=obnetwork

Re: [FairfieldLife] Roller Girl

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/17/2014 9:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Just a non-sequitur, sitting in this cafe, enjoying the sunny day. It is triggered by the vision of a young, tall, slim, and stunning Dutch girl pausing for a moment to adjust her breasts for maximum effect before

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Buck, I probably won't forward your additional and very interesting comments to my friend. At this point, I'm leaving it up to Rick meister (-: On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:23 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Maybe Rick can obtain a portable EEG

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yogatón Maharishi

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
My spanish isn't very good so I have to use Google Translate, but it looks like a mass Intro Lecture is being sponsored by the government of La Victoria District, Lima, not mass instruction in TM. Though someone like Carlos Slim could pay for all 150,000 citizens of the district age 10 and up

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated from behavior. I believe that Maharishi got that right. I don't need to say any more about that because you provided more than enough information for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/18/2014 3:04 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :He may have predated MMY by discussing consciousness as basis of all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To Share: But what if the criteria to be considered a dentist was just to put a sign in front of your house that said dentist? To Barry: I resonate with what you wrote and that is the direction of my thinking on altered states of consciousness of all kinds. We have to drop the traditionally

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL - good one! He is such a phony - The only reason Barry continuously brings up the level setting, is for fear his lack of progress, in any domain of his life, will be made obvious. What a little fake. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Roller Girl

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Excellent point, Richard. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/17/2014 9:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Just a non-sequitur, sitting in this cafe, enjoying the sunny day. It is triggered by the vision of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why did TM *really* become so popular (for a while)?

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/17/2014 7:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If Maharishi had never run into them, I would bet that almost no one on this forum would *be* on this forum, or would have ever heard of TM. How much would you be willing to wager? I learned TM before the Beatles

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Judy, first of all, I read FFL posts in my yahoo email inbox. BUT...I have a choice. I can either read and reply in what yahoo calls Basic format or in what they call Full Featured. The latter is better for replying because then there are not those long tails with huge blank spaces such as are

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated from behavior. I believe that Maharishi got that right. I don't need to say any more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, thanks for the info, I'll think about it. OTOH, I'm pretty accustomed to yahoo Neo and I really like yahoo mail. I think I'd be daunted by how google organizes emails. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:22 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, so you're not talking about the Web site at all. I see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, first of all, I read FFL posts in my yahoo email inbox. BUT...I have a choice. I can either read and reply in what yahoo calls Basic format or in what they call Full

Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/17/2014 3:09 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: A rap for Curtis, now that the Jim-bot has shouted himself out and probably fallen asleep... Maybe it's time to review the protocols for posting messages to news forums: 1. Don't include a person's real name in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My God, Ann, where do you find these graphics?! On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:46 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, good point and I agree that we're all the same on some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : snip ...I was attempting to capture was something you would have, chronologically, been present for as well, albeit within a different context. You nailed it,

Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, I added to your netiquette list. Go figure! 0. Don't snip so that something written by A looks like it was written by B! 1. Don't include a person's real name in the subject line of your post. 2. If it's a personal note to someone in particular, switch to private email for your

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Comments below... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
These days, I tend to believe that subjective claims of spiritual experience should ALWAYS be completely discounted and treated as irrelevant poppycock. The only thing that can possibly matter between human beings is how those human beings ACT. If one of them *were* enlightened and acted

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis, first I'd ask you to operationally define *being considered a dentist.* Does it mean clients go to that so called dentist and let him or her work on their teeth? If it does, then I'd say that those probably toothless clients need to find another system of determining who is qualified to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Roller Girl

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/17/2014 9:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Just a non-sequitur, sitting in this cafe, enjoying the sunny day. It is triggered by the vision of a young, tall, slim, and

[FairfieldLife] Majorca Journal

2014-05-18 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
http://majorcajournal.blogspot.com/

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-18 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 6:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue So it always surprises me when I hear tales of people rounding and

[FairfieldLife] Eckhart Tolle not enlightened by TM standards

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I ran into a brief quote by Tolle about dreamless sleep, so I tracked down a book of his and found this passage: Dreamless Sleep You take a journey into the Unmanifested every night when you enter the phase of deep dreamless sleep. You merge with the Source. You draw from it the vital

Re: [FairfieldLife] Eckhart Tolle not enlightened by TM standards

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Lawson, I heard second hand that Maharishi made a distinction between an enlightened man and an enlightened teacher. The enlightened man maybe popped into enlightenment while eating a strawberry. He then proceeds to teach the strawberry eating technique. OTOH an enlightened teacher can see

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can mention that subjective experiences were never evaluated separated from behavior. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : My God, Ann, where do you find these graphics?! Heh, maybe a better question is who creates these things for me to find? On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:46 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Rick Archer: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 05/17/2014

2014-05-18 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump https://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Comments below... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Just for da record... I don't need to go into any detail here but just can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Eckhart Tolle not enlightened by TM standards

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
In this case, whatever Eckart Tolle is talking about, is ipso facto not CC, let alone GC or UC. Of course, some may argue that his awakening is more profound than those baby forms of awakening defined in TM practice, and certainly, the entire American Buddhist community other than a few Zen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, try not to be such a dimwit. For dentists, there is an actual certification process, and licensing boards that one can contact to see whether they are licensed and have a good reputation. There is no such thing in the world of self-proclaimed spiritual teachers or those *claiming* to be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, first I'd ask you to operationally define *being considered a dentist.* Does it mean clients go to that so called dentist and let him or her work on their teeth? C: It means being certified by a board who looks after the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Eckhart Tolle not enlightened by TM standards

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Lawson, I think there are a lot of enlightened people around these days, including Tolle. But I also think that there are very few enlightened teachers. WRT to taking their theories and or practices to heart, I mostly go by how his or her energy feels to me. If they feel ungrounded,

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
A note: witnessing ala the research on Cosmic Consciousness is a state that appears to be highly unusual. It is associated with coherent alpha-1 EEG in the frontal lobes of the brain. There's no way that I am aware of to induce coherent alpha-1 EEG in someone. Researchers have induced

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis and turq, yes I am aware that there are boards for certifying dentists. I ignored that path of discussion because there isn't such a system for certifying spiritual teachers. My main point is that individuals need to exercise due diligence. In the absence of a certifying board, one can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Lawson, you are trying to define the *subjective* experience of witnessing in terms of a few isolated measurements taken by TM researchers who were looking for some way to prove the dogma they had been taught to believe. Researchers very much CAN induce witnessing in a lab in terms of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, I just assumed these graphics are produced by that sweaty stud muffin on the motorcycle (-: On Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:42 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : My God, Ann,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Clay and Silk

2014-05-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I was looking at one of the Yahoo Groups I get via email the other day and all the posts were listed as from the email of that group. It was still normal on the web site. It seemed only to be a one day occurrence however as it was back to normal the following day. On 05/18/2014 06:22 AM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Casino blues

2014-05-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Some friends had a business of making the computerized slot machines years ago. They needed to switch the interfaces on them from serial to USB so they had me look at that project. The coding was in some off beat language but their company folded before the project got started. On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Roller Girl

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
For those who seem intent on turning my reportage into some kind of horribly misogynist failing, I shall expand upon what I meant by adjusting her breasts for maximum effect. The lady in question was wearing a tight tank top with no bra. She was stopped looking into the window of a shop,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann wrote: Of course, one would also have to define bad behavior beyond the obvious. Share replies: It's an interesting exercise when you consider that in the Gita Lord Krishna was basically telling Arjuna to kill people. But to do so established in Being. I think the ultimate consequence of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Of course, you may be right. On the other hand, modern science is very much materialistic. If two different physical states give rise to the same self-report, modern science calls them two different physical states that happen to give rise to the same self-report, not two different ways of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Eckhart Tolle not enlightened by TM standards

2014-05-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I simply don't consider him enlightened, at least within the parameters that MMY laid down. Of course, as I pointed out, MMY might be wrong, but then again Eckhart Tolle may simply be deluding himself as well. The gap between thoughts that we call pure consciousness during TM isn't just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So you're perfectly OK with someone else deciding for him or herself whether it is appropriate behavior, and living accordingly? Even though he or she could be deliberating whether to kill you? People who say dumb stuff like what you said about the Gita and its lessons are always thinking

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