---  Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
>
> Jason, I liked your analogy and I think Judy asks a valid
> question.  What say you?
> 
> 
> ---  "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote:
> >
> (snip)
> > Allow me to rephrase the topic.
> > 
> > Judy's thesis is this.  There is a dark room. You are inside 
> > it in darkness.  There is bright light outside. The windows 
> > are covered with blinds with no light coming in.
> > 
> > You slowly open it a little bit with very dim light coming 
> > in. Later you let some more light come in.  it's brighter. 
> > Again later you allow a little more light to come in.
> > 
> > The room slowly become brighter and brighter until it's 
> > fully illuminated from the light outside.
> > 
> > Salyawin's thesis is this.  You are in a dark room.  You 
> > have a bulb and very tiny batteries.  You connect the 
> > batteries to the bulb and get a very dim light.  
> > 
> > Later, you connect it to a bigger set of batteries and the 
> > light is slightly brighter.  A little later, you connect it 
> > to a even larger battery and so on.
> > 
> > The room becomes brighter and brighter untill it's fully 
> > illuminated with powerfull batteries.
> > 
> > Which is could be correct?
> > 
> > If consciousness is an emergent phenomena that comes from 
> > the ability to sense the outside universe, it would need the 
> > hardware. It would be objective.
> > 
> > If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality 
> > of nature's laws, it's a software issue.  The Qualia aspect 
> > of reality is interesting. It's subjective.
> > 
> > Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. 
> >
> >
---  "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote:
>
> How do you account for the "you" in either of the above
> scenarios? Where did it come from?
>

Could it be that the self-awareness or the feeling of "I am" 
is inherent or intrinsic in everything starting from an 
electron.

If every electron "knows" the position of every other 
electron in the universe......

I think you nailed me.  Got to give you credit.  Well played 
Judy.




---  "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@...> wrote:
>
> Which side of a coin is the true side, heads or tails? 



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