--- Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Jason, I liked your analogy and I think Judy asks a valid > question. What say you? > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > (snip) > > Allow me to rephrase the topic. > > > > Judy's thesis is this. There is a dark room. You are inside > > it in darkness. There is bright light outside. The windows > > are covered with blinds with no light coming in. > > > > You slowly open it a little bit with very dim light coming > > in. Later you let some more light come in. it's brighter. > > Again later you allow a little more light to come in. > > > > The room slowly become brighter and brighter until it's > > fully illuminated from the light outside. > > > > Salyawin's thesis is this. You are in a dark room. You > > have a bulb and very tiny batteries. You connect the > > batteries to the bulb and get a very dim light. > > > > Later, you connect it to a bigger set of batteries and the > > light is slightly brighter. A little later, you connect it > > to a even larger battery and so on. > > > > The room becomes brighter and brighter untill it's fully > > illuminated with powerfull batteries. > > > > Which is could be correct? > > > > If consciousness is an emergent phenomena that comes from > > the ability to sense the outside universe, it would need the > > hardware. It would be objective. > > > > If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality > > of nature's laws, it's a software issue. The Qualia aspect > > of reality is interesting. It's subjective. > > > > Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. > > > > --- "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote: > > How do you account for the "you" in either of the above > scenarios? Where did it come from? >
Could it be that the self-awareness or the feeling of "I am" is inherent or intrinsic in everything starting from an electron. If every electron "knows" the position of every other electron in the universe...... I think you nailed me. Got to give you credit. Well played Judy. --- "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@...> wrote: > > Which side of a coin is the true side, heads or tails?