First of all,thanks for promoting interesting discussions where John and Empty.
Although I vigorously disagree with much of what lies below, I greatly
appreciate the opportunity to articulate it in some detail. Comments below:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Much of what passes as mysticism is a confounding of ideas - a type of
mystification. Plotinus however, was interested in theoria (contemplation)
which is a function of the nous (intellectus) rather than the mind (ratio).
The platonism of Plotinus was based upon the idea that the psyche/soul
Why not just read Plotinus more directly, especially in that wonderful,
insightful English translation by Stephen MacKenna? That way there is less
interpretation in the way. Unfortunately I have not revisited that work for
some 40 years, but Plotinus was my kind of guy as far as insight into
Jr and Xenos
Reading Aquinas is like reading a Christian Aristotle. Better than that is
reading Neo-Platonism - such as Pierre Hadot's Plotinus or the Simplicity of
Vision.
From the preceding examples, we may get some idea of the change in perspective
that may occur in our reading and
emptybill,
Yes, I would agree that philosophy is theoretical, but I don't believe atheism
addresses Being as discussed by Plato, Aristotle and Aquinas.
Maharishi had a refreshing idea regarding this subject. He was saying that
atheism is limited in scope. Please, see my recent posts in
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :
Xenos
Yes, the MacKenna translation, although abridged, makes Plotinus quite
readable. However, I used the 7 volume translation of the Enneads by A. H.
Armstrong. It has the original Greek on the left page and the English
Xenos
Yes, the MacKenna translation, although abridged, makes Plotinus quite
readable. However, I used the 7 volume translation of the Enneads by A. H.
Armstrong. It has the original Greek on the left page and the English
translation on the right side.
But that bypasses the significance of
Xenos
Yes, the MacKenna translation, although abridged, makes Plotinus quite
readable. However, I used the 7 volume translation of the Enneads by A. H.
Armstrong. It has the original Greek on the left page and the English
translation on the right side.
Armstrong is more accurate but
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Xeno,
You should read the original writings of Plato and Aristotle regarding logic,
metaphysics and Being. You might be able to understand directly from them
based on the sound
John,
I believe that Aquinas said everything he had written was 'straw' or 'chaff'
not 'pulp'. You are not a careful reader.
The whole point of my mentioning Ayer was his work, which was a summation of
Russell, Wittgenstein, Carnap, and others, was that these modern day logicians
showed
Xeno,
You might find this interview of Father George Coyne, a Jesuit priest, by
Richard Dawkins interesting about evolution and belief. Oddly enough, towards
the latter part of the interview, Coyne showed his doubts about his own belief,
but in the end he justified it by saying that it's
I will see if I can get to this. Have had some weather problems with Internet
connexion lately, currently being repaired. Low speeds, so I haven't been
watching videos. Actually I think I have seen part of this video sometime in
the past.
'Faith: Not wanting to know what is true.' —Nietzsche
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Barry,
Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be
done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by
using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here in this
Xeno,
You should read the original writings of Plato and Aristotle regarding logic,
metaphysics and Being. You might be able to understand directly from them
based on the sound of the words they're trying to convey regarding this subject.
Nonetheless, even if logic and reasoning are
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808wrote:
BTW, you might want to listen to at least the first fewminutes of Rick's
interview with Tom Campbell. Campbell isa scientist, a physicistt.
266. Tom
On 01/08/2015 09:29 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
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mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
On
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On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
BTW, you
On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
BTW, you *might* want to listen to at least the first few minutes
of Rick's interview with Tom Campbell. Campbell *is* a scientist,
On 01/08/2015 12:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
BTW, you *might* want to listen to at least the first few
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Barry,
Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be
done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by
using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Barry,
Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be
done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by
using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here in this
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Barry,
Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be
done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by
using the Kalam Cosmological
On 01/08/2015 11:24 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
Now I'll let you get back to Top Gear.
I hate Top Gear, I'm reading a book on cosmology I got for Crimbo,
might watch a bit of Star Trek later though.
Figured so and exactly why I mentioned that show. :-D
Happy reading about science
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/08/2015 09:29 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 11:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In
Barry,
Dr. David Bentley Hart has indicated that the proof of God's existence can be
done through logic and metaphysics. I have tried to do this in the past by
using the Kalam Cosmological Argument with a few people here in this forum.
You failed to participate. Why?
Now, you're
but they concentrate on stopping people getting high from smoking
plants! Go figure.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:47 PM
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru
smoking
plants! Go figure.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Sometimes I think that were
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
BTW, you might want to listen to at least the first few minutes of Rick's
interview with Tom Campbell. Campbell is a scientist, a physicistt.
266. Tom Campbell - Buddha at the
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On 01/07/2015 11:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Barry,
As mentioned to Bhairitu, I performed the remote view yesterday. So,
it was an instantaneous observation of what is happening in that
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 02:26 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :
Hey, everyone!
I tried to remote view this new world using the
On 01/07/2015 12:34 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 01/07/2015 02:26 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@...
mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :
Hey, everyone!
high from smoking
plants! Go figure.
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noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
Sometimes I think that were
6, 2015 4:47 PM
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SometimesI think that were are justcelestial refugees fromMars who figured out
howto jump intobodies of an apes speciesas they are born. It'skind of
anamusement park
on stopping people getting
high from smoking plants! Go figure.
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] New
On 01/07/2015 02:26 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Hey, everyone!
I tried to remote view this new world using the technique suggested by
Tom Campbell on the latest post I made here, and in the clip below.
My remote view saw the planet to
: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:47 PM
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Sometimes I think that were are just celestial refugees from Mars who
On 01/07/2015 09:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
What was your time target? I bought Ed Dames first course on VHS
years ago. In fact Dames even called me when I inquired via
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Maybe you'll get to spend your next lifetime there. After all there is no
such thing as time on the other side (or so we've been told).
Yup, I'll certainly tell you that ;-)
I would like to visit another planet though but
...and it's very like our own but a bit warmer which makes it a nice place for
a holiday! Would take a while to get there though as it's 470 light years away.
But that's close enough so that we could sort of have a conversation with any
life forms there, if you don't mind a slight delay - we
Maybe you'll get to spend your next lifetime there. After all there is
no such thing as time on the other side (or so we've been told).
On 01/06/2015 10:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
...and it's very like our own but a bit warmer which makes it a nice
place for a holiday! Would take a while to
Sometimes I think that were are just celestial refugees from Mars who
figured out how to jump into bodies of an apes species as they are
born. It's kind of an amusement park ride favored on the other side to
do things they can't do on the celestial side.
On 01/06/2015 12:16 PM, salyavin808
did this paranoia strike you during your dope days, or did it strike during TM
Siddhi practice?
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Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:47 PM
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---In FairfieldLife
Sim Earth?
On 01/06/2015 01:47 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Sometimes I think that were are just celestial refugees from Mars who
figured out how to jump into bodies of an apes species as they are
born. It's kind of an amusement park
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Sometimes I think that were are just celestial refugees from Mars who figured
out how to jump into bodies of an apes species as they are born. It's kind of
an amusement park ride favored on the other side to do things they can't do
to be recognised as a mental health problem
by doctors but they concentrate on stopping people getting high from smoking
plants! Go figure.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:47 PM
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as a mental health problem
by doctors but they concentrate on stopping people getting high from smoking
plants! Go figure.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:47 PM
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Hey, everyone!
I tried to remote view this new world using the technique suggested by Tom
Campbell on the latest post I
Meet the new boss:
CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective
The world responds, Duh!
Same as the old boss ... won't get fooled again! yeah, right.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] New World Order
Meet the new boss:
CIA torture report brands post-9/11
And why would they do that? Could it be that major corporations and
financial interests had a stake in keeping up the endless war? The
torture probably wasn't to get any info as they already knew many of
these groups were actually other PSYOP operations. It was to get their
jollies.
On 12/9/2014 1:05 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
Meet the new boss:
/What the Democrats are doing is classic Alinskyism, posturing as the
defenders of the American Way and hoping like hell that nobody remembers
that rendition prisons began under the Clinton administration./ -
Michael Walsh
*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released
On 12/9/2014 1:23 PM,
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:05 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] New World Order
Meet the new boss:
CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective
http://www.theguardian.com
On 12/9/2014 1:41 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
And why would they do that?
Why did the U.S. participate in renditions? You're not making any sense.
Renditions are used primarily to disrupt a cell and remove a terror
suspect from the battlefield.
Could it be that major corporations and financial
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What the hell is the Bell of Eureka? This is insane.
What a humiliation! The whole thing is going to fail
because some moron is using some misplaced tantric
double-talk phrase that will confuse the great peace
loving dictators of the world. My God! what a disastor
in the making! Ring my bell of
on 5/17/05 6:23 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What the hell is the Bell of Eureka? This is insane.
What a humiliation! The whole thing is going to fail
because some moron is using some misplaced tantric
double-talk phrase that will confuse the great peace
loving dictators of
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