[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita

2013-10-22 Thread authfriend
Seraphita wrote: (snip) As intuitions are personal isn't Barry making a fair point to stress that you can't compel others to adopt your view so it's counter-productive to rabbit on about it. Sure, it's a fair point in a vacuum, as I said. But entirely irrelevant to my conversation

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita

2013-10-22 Thread s3raphita
Re When the Portuguese and Spanish missionaries arrived in Japan and found that the heathens had no fuckin' interest in what these smelly furriners were trying to sell them, they *often* resorted to violence. The Portuguese missionaries occasionally killed people to make an example of them, and

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita

2013-10-22 Thread authfriend
Seraphita wrote: Re Judy and I assent to the ideas because I have the feelings; I don't have the feelings because I've assented to the ideas, (I was quoting Spufford, in case that isn't clear.) and Spufford refers to Christians making truth claims, That contrast between ideas

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita

2013-10-22 Thread authfriend
Barry wrote: (snip) But one wonders what Empty believes in that someone who *does* or even *might* believe such things gets his panties all in a twist. :-) One wonders what sort of weird sexual trauma Barry underwent as a child that causes him to have these repeated fantasies of people

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita

2013-10-21 Thread authfriend
Seraphita wrote: Re Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.: Indeed - but only after a reader's comment alerted the sub editor to the error! Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of course, part of the problem

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita

2013-10-21 Thread authfriend
Second thought: Seraphita wrote: (snip) Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of course, part of the problem Christians have with the New Atheists is that they - the Christians - have insisted on a literal interpretation for so long that it seems

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita

2013-10-21 Thread authfriend
Nobody's doing that here, Barry. You don't actually read the posts, so you have no idea what it is we've been discussing. And you didn't read the article Seraphita and I were talking about. Your little rant is being made in a vacuum; it's irrelevant to anything currently going on. And not for