Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-11 Thread netineti108
Really, Wikipedia is your reference? Did you look at the names? Did you learn the TM puja? Did you even recognize the misspelling of the name, Shukadeva? You should be embarrassed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : All the Shankaracharya Saraswati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-10 Thread netineti108
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/9/2014 12:14 PM, netineti108 wrote: Neti sez: What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga? Bhaja Govinda is the correct answer. According to the Adi Shankara, the author of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-10 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/9/2014 12:14 PM, netineti108 wrote: /Neti sez: / /What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga?/ / / /Bhaja Govinda is the correct answer./ /A//ccording

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-10 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Maharishi believed that Shankara lived 2000+ years ago also, and yet, virtually every modern historian puts him in the 8th Century C.E., so talking about his commentary on the Gita being the oldest extant commentary for two millenia, is, well, being like Maharishi: playing a bit fast with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-10 Thread netineti108
Each Yuga has its delightful stories of the Divine. Ramayana from Treta, Srimad Bhagavatam from Dwapara... At the bridge between Treta yuga and Dwapara yuga... Veda Vyasa after compiling the great Vedic works was in a state of deep depression! Sage Narada came to him and told him to to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-10 Thread netineti108
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 10/9/2014 12:14 PM, netineti108 wrote: Neti sez: What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-10 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
//All//the Shankaracharya Saraswati dandi sannyasins up to and including SBS meditate on the Saraswati bija mantra at least twice each day. They say this is the /fastest method to Liberation in the Kali Yuga - a seeded meditation using bija mantra. This is stated very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-09 Thread netineti108
Neti sez: What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga? Bhaja Govinda is the correct answer.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/9/2014 12:14 PM, netineti108 wrote: /Neti sez: / /What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga?/ / / /Bhaja Govinda is the correct answer./ /A//ccording to the Adi Shankara, the author of the Soundaryalahari, the bija mantra of Shakti is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara V Gautama Buddha

2014-09-29 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I met her while I was in Kansas City. She is wonderful and highly effective as a leader. Both an ordained Christian minister and Buddhist priest. And, the TM movement in the marketplace of spirituality should fear her and a growing host of people like her combining the love in Christianity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara V Gautama Buddha

2014-09-29 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In the battling of spiritual practices within the general or larger “spiritual but not religious” marketplace, buddhistic mindfulness seems to be widening a popular lead over transcendent meditation. Taking a look at the inter-faith programs downtown in Kansas City even now. There evidently

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara V Gautama Buddha

2014-09-29 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re-contextualizing the inter-faith movement.. Emptybill's thread started here comparing Shankara and Buddha seems to uncover an underlying story with under-tow currents of divergence... Shankara, Buddha, and Abraham -ic.. In Unity? In the battling of spiritual practices within the general

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara V Gautama Buddha

2014-09-29 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Elderly Spiritual-Movements in transition, there is a relevant post about re-contextualizing spirituality and religion comparing Unity in Kansas City and meditating Fairfield, Iowa chronicling which examples the facility of two elderly spiritual groups vying for modern cultural significance..

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara V Gautama Buddha

2014-09-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Om egads, Empty.. This is terribly interesting! Does the evident antipathy between Buddhism with its Buddhistic practices like mindfulness and transcendent meditation go back even that far? In roots of divergence it seems that not only does modern science show us now they are different

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 9/27/2014 5:36 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Shankara also considered yoga to be only accessory because the real nature of the self is already awareness (jñâna) and that awareness is /who/what/ we are. No yogic suspension of mental activity (chitta.vritti.nirodha) is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Willy sez: ... just be aware of being aware. You Can't Experience Awareness You Can't Experience Awareness You Can't Experience Awareness http://www.shiningworld.com/top/files/satsang-1/%2831%29%20You%20Can%27t%20Experience%20Awareness.pdf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara V Gautama Buddha

2014-09-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The Buddhists seem to have the language of 'inter-faith' down pat which old church communities are re-contextualizing and welcoming. Is transcendent meditation by association with things Vedic seen now as too religious? Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck Om egads, Empty.. This is terribly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As I was saying to Fleetwood, all that's left is experiencing... On Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:19 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Willy sez: ... just be aware of being aware. You Can't Experience AwarenessYou Can't Experience Awareness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 9/27/2014 5:36 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Shankara considered the performance of Vedic rites to be preparatory and purifying but non-essential. The historical Buddha blew to bits the false notion that sacrificial rites based on caste distinctions were a valid means of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 9/28/2014 11:19 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: /Willy sez: ... just be aware of being aware. / You Can't Experience Awareness You Can't Experience Awareness You Can't Experience Awareness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 9/28/2014 11:19 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: /Willy sez: ... just be aware of being aware. / You Can't Experience Awareness /Only humans have a conscious self-awareness which sets them apart from non-humans. So, awareness is consciousness. In Tibetan Buddhism the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara V Gautama Buddha

2014-09-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I was in Kansas City recently and saw a listing posted on a bulletin board in a church there of places that are open to group meditations in the general cross-border Kansas-Missouri region. The list was quite long and incredible including some places you would expect but also denominational

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ramana Maharshi said that his pet deer, and the cow Lakshmi became enlightened at death as he placed his hand over their hearts. I'll get the exact statement later.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I was in Kansas City recently and saw a listing posted on a bulletin board in a church there of places that are open to group meditations in the general cross-border Kansas-Missouri region. The Lady who got this going full bore is Janet Taylor. She is a student of Surya Das and a former

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 9/28/2014 12:54 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As I was saying to Fleetwood, all that's left is experiencing... If awareness is all there is, then the only experience is awareness, to a certain degree. /According to the Tibetan tradition, consciousness is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-27 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Neti sez: What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga? Well Neti, you can’t even get a straight answer to a simple question. You might note the comments upon your question. Not one of them quotes Shankara directly because they only know about his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-27 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks Emptybill, Substantial post. But oh-oh: ..he worked extensively to refute the idea that the performance of Vedic rites was necessary or even accessory to the realization of BrahmÂtman. In Western European history those kind of illuminating spiritual people challenging rites and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-27 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-27 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
D.Ham sez: But oh-oh: ..he worked extensively to refute the idea that the performance of Vedic rites was necessary or even accessory to the realization of BrahmÂtman. What Adi Shankara does not do is declare the Vedic rites to be spiritually useless. That was the claim of Gautama Buddha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-27 Thread danfriedman2002
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Neti sez: What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to Liberation in this Kali Yuga? Well Neti, you can’t even get a straight answer to a simple question. Dear Empty, Neti received two straight answers to his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-26 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 9/25/2014 10:34 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oh, you meant THAT Adi Shankara, not the guy from Cincinnati. My bad. /There must be a million people named Shankara in India, but the term Adi indicates Lord Shiva, the first Adi./ ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-26 Thread danfriedman2002
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 9/25/2014 10:34 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oh, you meant THAT Adi Shankara, not the guy from Cincinnati. My bad. There must be a million people named Shankara in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-25 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, you meant THAT Adi Shankara, not the guy from Cincinnati. My bad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Steroids?? TRANSCENDENCE ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-25 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Kali Yuga?We've been in the Age of Enlightenment since 1975.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-25 Thread danfriedman2002
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, inmadison@... wrote : Kali Yuga?We've been in the Age of Enlightenment since 1975. Dear Treme, 1975 was the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. The light has reached those who pursued it. For the rest. Not so much.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-24 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Steroids?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : We were taught that the TMO was derived from the Shankaracharya Lineage, yes? Of course Sri Brahmananda Saraswati came from that river of knowledge. What did Adi Shankara say was the fastest method to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-09-24 Thread danfriedman2002
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Steroids?? TRANSCENDENCE ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : We were taught that the TMO was derived from the Shankaracharya Lineage, yes? Of course Sri Brahmananda Saraswati came