--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
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**Snip**
I've also found Muktananda's comments and observations about
Jesus
and suffering to be very profound...and
True, even Socrates could be in that catagory also.
But to get back to the point, that Maharishi was making about the
suffering and stuff;
I was thinking that true suffering is caused by the seperation from
God, or Self...
So, I would say that Jesus was 'suffering' on the Thursday before the
I'm going to theorize that there is a law of nature that says there is no free lunch. You screw up. You pay. But apparently how you pay depends on who you know. If you know the right guy, he can get you a reduced sentence. You do soft time meditating, say,instead of hard time suffering.
On Oct 10, 2006, at 11:08 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not forget that Jesus Christos was not the *first* human incarnation/nirmanakaya to use the Death-Resurrection formulae of attainment. He was actually the last (in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
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True, even Socrates could be in that catagory also.
But to get back to the point, that Maharishi was making about the
suffering and stuff;
I was thinking that true suffering is caused by the seperation from
God, or
In a message dated 10/11/06 10:28:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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So, I
would say that Jesus was 'suffering' on the Thursday before the
crucifixion, when he felt that'God had forsaken him'.According to the
movie "The Last Temptation of Christ", Jesus said
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
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True, even Socrates could be in that catagory also.
But to get back to the point, that Maharishi was making about the
suffering and stuff;
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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babajii_99@ wrote:
True, even Socrates could be in that catagory also.
But to get
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@
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babajii_99@
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Hey, m2, Namaste. Good to hear your voice again.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I remember Mother Olson talking about how off Catholics were in
their devotions to the crucifix. With all the beauty of a saints
life, why the focus on a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
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then it doesn't matter what the
means, the race is on.
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From: akasha_108
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christians obsession with death
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christians obsession with death
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000
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SNIP
Yeah I thought the whole point was that he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:36 AM, mark robert wrote:
ut such a violent symbol is so attractive to societies like ours
that are so obsessed with violence. Think of the crucifixion as a
barometer for the general state of
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:43 AM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert colowe@
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On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:36 AM, mark robert wrote:
ut such a violent symbol is so attractive to societies like ours
that are so obsessed
the
means, the race is on.
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From: akasha_108
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:43 AM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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**Snip**
I've also found Muktananda's comments and observations about Jesus
and suffering to be very profound...and almost identical to MMY's.
At the risk of being reminded by a FFL participant,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
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**Snip**
I've also found Muktananda's comments and observations about Jesus
and suffering to be very profound...and
Yes, thanks, that sounds like the right title.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
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Let's not forget that Jesus Christos was not the *first* human incarnation/nirmanakaya to use the Death-Resurrection formulae of attainment. He was actually the last (in relation to humanity in the current epoch)lest Bacchus and Osiris and Krishna with his arrow in the side, on the tree
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, crukstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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I was thinking along these lines once and decided that what we
need
is a take Christ down from the cross campaign. Poor guy,
I was thinking along these lines once and decided that what we
need is a "take Christ down from the cross campaign". Poor guy, being
kept symbolically nailed to that cross for all this time, on millions
upon millions of those crucifixion idols, being churned out in factories and
shops on
On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:34 AM, rudra_joe wrote:
That seeing some poor guys pathos is so Christian in itself, take that down.
Yeah, people on torture devices tend to make for bad religious symbols. Christ in ascension / attaining the Jalus is much more appealing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking along these lines once and decided that what we need
is a take Christ down from the cross campaign. Poor guy, being
kept symbolically nailed to that cross for all this time, on
millions upon
I know a guy who was tortured to death in public in Nero's Rome. He
wasn't CC and relives it several times a week. According to his shrink
he is suffering from PTSD.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:34 AM, rudra_joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I was thinking along these lines once and decided that what we
need
is a take Christ down from the cross campaign. Poor guy, being
kept symbolically nailed to that cross for all this time, on
millions upon
It's appealing for us but maybe some are happy in a
pure land. Perhaps in Jesusloka.
- Original Message -
From:
Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:42
AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:
Christians obsession with death
:36
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Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:
Christians obsession with death
On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:34 AM,
rudra_joe wrote:
That seeing some poor guys pathos is so
Christian in itself, take that down.
Yeah, people on torture devices tend to make for
bad religious symbols
31, 2005 10:41
AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christians
obsession with death
I know a guy who was tortured to death in
public in Nero's Rome. Hewasn't CC and relives it several times a week.
According to his shrinkhe is suffering from PTSD.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
is on.
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From:
akasha_108
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:43
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obsession with death
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"Bob Brigante" [EMAIL PROTECTE
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:36 AM, mark robert wrote:
ut such a violent symbol is so attractive to societies like ours that are so obsessed with violence. Think of the crucifixion as a barometer for the general state of mental health; as long as the symbol stands, so does the mass-neurosis. Good luck
swear. You got it
all backwards.
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:48
AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christians
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"rudr
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From:
crukstrom
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:48
AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christians
obsession with death
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
wrote: I was thinking along these
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christians obsession with death
On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:34 AM, rudra_joe wrote:
That seeing some poor guys pathos is so Christian in itself,
take that down.
Yeah, people on torture devices tend to make for bad religious
symbols. Christ in ascension
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christians obsession with death
On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:34 AM, rudra_joe wrote:
That seeing some poor guys pathos is so Christian in itself,
take that down
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Oh come on, the self is nailed down to the relative because that is
heaven. The cross feels like exstacy after 1,000 years, come push
those nails deeper little boy. The cross points are the points of the
all seeing
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:36 AM, mark robert wrote:
ut
such a violent symbol is so attractive to societies like ours that are so
obsessed with violence. Think of the crucifixion as a barometer for the general
state of mental health; as long as the symbol stands, so does the
mass-neurosis.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000
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SNIP
Yeah I thought the whole point was that he
.
But to be fair, wasn't Krishna's (CRISTNA) death
similar and aren't there similar representative icons
in India?
Some accounts have him hung/nailed/crucified
in the tree that he was shot under.
Wasn't he also virgin-birthed?
didnt ever know about these paralells, but
via google i
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L B Shriver
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crukstrom
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snip
I was thinking along these
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I remember Mother Olson talking about how off Catholics were in
their devotions to the crucifix. With all the beauty of a saints
life, why the focus on a gory death? In every Catholic church is a
crucifix and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, crukstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I remember Mother Olson talking about how off Catholics were in
their devotions to the crucifix. With all the beauty of a saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
SNIP
Yeah I thought the whole point was that he came back from the dead,
or more specifically, ascended, so why keep him in death, so
weird. They always want to say how Christ died for our sins , I
mean get
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