Rick Archer wrote: > The truth: These accusations-of "death panels" and > forced euthanasia-are, of course, flatly untrue. > It is a fact that under Obama's plan there will be rationing of medical care. There will always be a rationing of medical care - that's what an insurance medical system is. There is going to be a panel that decides what is cost effective medical care, just like they do now - it's a reform, Rick, not a new system.
> The truth: With reform, choices will increase, not > decrease. > For a single-payer system to work, everyone must join - it will be a mandatory system. You can't opt out of a single-payer system. You can't have young people opting out and choosing no insurance and letting the old people pay all the bills. You will not have a a choice - you will join because the funds will be automatically deducted from your bank account. > Obama's reform plans will create a health insurance > exchange... > Screw your health insurance plan and screw all your insurance companies, especially screw your government insurance - they have been screwing you for years and now you want to support an insurance company. We want free, universal health care, Rick, not insurance. > injecting competition into the market to drive > quality up and costs down. > There is not a single plan in the Obama bills that would lower the cost of medical care. You can't give 'universal health care' without a cost increase, with 47 million additional people getting care that are not presently getting it. You will never get costs down if you accept everyone's pre-existing conditions. The only way you are going to be able to lower costs is to get discount prescription medications, but Obama made a secret deal with big Pharma that makes it ILLEGAL to buy cheap drugs from Mexico or Canada. > If you're happy with your coverage and doctors, you > can keep them. > On a single-payer system, you will have no choice - everyone must pay into the system, so that everyone gets medical care. Nobody gets left behind - everyone gets care, everyone gets taken care of. Everyone will have to show proof of medical insurance, just like auto liability insurance. > millions of businesses or individuals who choose to > opt into it, including many who simply can't afford > health care now. > You forgot about the guest workers - you can't have a health care system unless you include EVERYONE who needs medical care. Obama doesn't have a plan for immigration reform until 2013, so millions of people living and wotking in the U.S. will have no choice until a single-payer system is implemented. Everyone will pay in, and everyone is covered. > discrimination for pre-existing conditions, insurers > that cancel coverage when you get sick, gender > discrimination, and lifetime and yearly limits on > coverage. > There is always going to be rationing, Rick, just like there is now. There is a limit to how much the U.S. public will pay. When you start taxing the workers over 50% of their paycheck, there is going to be a riot and a tea party like you've never seen. > Health care reform plans will not reduce Medicare > benefits. > A single-payer system will replace Medicare, so it will be reduced to nothing. You can't have a universal health care system if you discriminate against older people - it just doesn't work like that, Rick. Everyone will get equal care in a democratic, free, universal health care system. > We need health care reform now in order to prevent > bankruptcy-to control spiraling costs... > The country is already bankrupt - there is no gold in Fort Knox. All you've got is a trillion plus deficit and paper money your print. You're fighting three wars, and buying everyone new cars and jet planes for your elected leaders. Your government cannot balance a check book. > Reform, with an affordable, high-quality public > option that can spur competition, is necessary to > bring down skyrocketing costs. > You just don't get it, Rick. Universal medical care should be free and available to all, in a single-payer system. You make one small payment and you get taken care of, for life. The only way you are going to bring down costs is to outlaw medical insurance companies and provide discount medications. > We need to make sure the truth about health care > reform is spread far and wide to combat right wing > lies. > You're not going to convince the older people to back your plan when you call them liars and Nazis. Just tell the truth, Rick, and leave the politics out of it. All you understand is left and right political propaganda. The truth is, you don't really have a plan, you haven't read the 10000 page bill, you probably don't even have any health insurance. And, if you do, you probably don't even understand it. > Check out this great new White House "Reality Check" > Do a reality check, Rick: Obama is NOT in favor of a single-payer system. He is for reform of the current system in which millions of people do not get any medical care and those who do must pay out the nose to the insurance companies and big Pharma. You need to stop calling names and just discuss the facts. No Oxy for Grandma's bad back! No medical care for the guest workers! Big tax increase on the middle class. Medical care rationing. There will always be a panel that decides who gets saved and who is left to die. "Obama sought to dispel talk that his ultimate goal is a single-payer federal health care system, like that in countries such as Canada..." Read more: 'Obama says health care critics use 'scare tactics'' By Phillip Elliot Associated Press, August 11, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/m57wxr
