Right, well this is how most such groups, including of course the TMO, keep
followers intact and funds flowing inward. Stigmatize any kind of straying from
the core group.
Personally speaking, retting rid of the overt influence of the TMO was one of
the most freeing things I've ever done in
Yep, cellphone format does seem to make for 'compactness'. Sorry geezer,
sometimes I just calls it likes I sees it from the saddle on the move. As a
platform for typing using cellphones from the back of a horse don't work too
good where condensed can become dense in medium. -JaiGuruYou
I actually like geezer's recent posts, although I do not have time to comment
on them at the moment, other than to say that they were well argued and lacking
in venom. I understand what he is saying.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :
More tomorrow but WTF? I
And, the movement hosted a Guru Purnima too in Fairfield.
In looking, it seems times are changed noticeably from during the 1990’s and
the 2000’s where organizations of the maha-saints and spiritual teachers were
often fleshed out by TM’ers/ the TM community. Altruistic TM’ers
The post in question (Doug's) looks perfectly clear to me.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Yep, cellphone format does seem to make for 'compactness'. Sorry geezer,
sometimes I just calls it likes I sees it from the saddle on the move. As a
platform for
Yes, I also enjoy the different perspective, discussed without devolving into
the venom, as you say.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
I actually like geezer's recent posts, although I do not have time to comment
on them at the moment, other than to say
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :
More tomorrow but WTF? I didn't write Fair enougj' below. Who did?
Now, about the same old group you say I know about. I kind of know who
posts. Do I know who lurks? No. And lurking reporters'? What??
Haha, I'm surprised
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Yep, cellphone format does seem to make for 'compactness'. Sorry geezer,
sometimes I just calls it likes I sees it from the saddle on the move. As a
platform for typing using cellphones from the back of a horse don't work too
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
I actually like geezer's recent posts, although I do not have time to comment
on them at the moment, other than to say that they were well argued and lacking
in venom. I understand what he is saying.
The fact that he
Of course, I rather envision Doug riding at a more leisurely (as in slow) pace,
maybe even enjoying a little pipe tobacco along the way. (-:
Any Esperanza speakers here? (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
I hope we can keep it going.
We don't have too many crossovers (-:
Along those lines, do you think xeno has some chameleon dna inim? (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
I actually
It may be dangerous out in the real world, where you live. But, Doug lives in
proximity to hundreds of marauding pandits who provide a bubble of Support of
Nature which prevents such things from happening. Additionally, his backup
plan, i.e., his choice of Icelandic horses, means he's not all
I can exhale now. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
It may be dangerous out in the real world, where you live. But, Doug lives in
proximity to hundreds of marauding pandits who provide a bubble of Support of
Nature which prevents such things from
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
I hope we can keep it going.
I'm enjoying the interaction with him. I welcome different opinions as long as
they don't come with a side dish of offal.
We don't have too many crossovers (-:
Along those lines, do
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
It may be dangerous out in the real world, where you live. But, Doug lives in
proximity to hundreds of marauding pandits who provide a bubble of Support of
Nature which prevents such things from happening. Additionally,
Re: 'Off the program'. I met a person at the recent Karunamayi silent
meditation retreat who at the end of the retreat commented that friends would
'freak out' and be quite 'upset' with this person if they knew this person had
come to the retreat. There were a lot of people from the greater
Yes, I saw the Scientology documentary, and yes there are similarities between
Scientology and TMO in terms of their cultist aspects, and quite a few more
differences, I'd say.
I spent a good eight years (from late teens to early 20's) totally immersed in
the cause, and yes I do enjoy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Yes, I saw the Scientology documentary, and yes there are similarities between
Scientology and TMO in terms of their cultist aspects, and quite a few more
differences, I'd say.
I spent a good eight years (from late teens to
More tomorrow but WTF? I didn't write Fair enougj' below. Who did?
Now, about the same old group you say I know about. I kind of know who
posts. Do I know who lurks? No. And lurking reporters'? What??
But you know the audience at FFL and they are just the same old group less a
few
More tomorrow but WTF is this? I didn't write Fair Enougj below.
Aside from that, you think I have some kind or cognition about who is reading
here? Lurking reporters? Jumping to conclusions much???
Let's cut to the chase: should I just keep my opinions to myself?
But you know the
In looking, it seems times are changed noticeably from during the 1990’s and
the 2000’s where organizations of the maha-saints and spiritual teachers were
often fleshed out by TM’ers/ the TM community. Altruistic TM’ers seemed to
have had the ready know-how in training and and experience in
Seriously man, I get a headache trying to untangle your tortured prose. Do you
actually speak like this? If not, try writing like you speak. Anything would be
better.
Now in looking it is fairly evident that others have come along in to being
the organizing workhorses of different
Absolutely true and understandable.
On the other hand, so many comment venues have shut down for pretty much the
same reason.
People disagree, and pretty soon their disagreements become vendettas, and
before you know it, anything goes.
Takes place on both sides of an issue, but some
My responses in blue below:
I see. So unless you have something nice to say about MMY or the TMO, keep yer
yap shut, is that it?
No, that's not it. Do you actually think I am a supporter of MMY and the
Movement after all I have posted here over the few years I have been around? I
am
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :
My responses in blue below:
I see. So unless you have something nice to say about MMY or the TMO, keep yer
yap shut, is that it?
No, that's not it. Do you actually think I am a supporter of MMY and the
Movement after all
it helps geez, in my opinion to keep the dialog honest.
what you describe below, has been helpful for many in sorting out their
experience in the TMO.
It's been that way for me, and I suspect, Ann.
What happens though, is that after enough times of being accused of being a
cult
Actually Ann, I reflected on this a bit today amidst the hussle and bussle.
You would think that 38 years after someone left an organization, their
comments about that organization may become less, instead of more.
I don't know what you chalk that up to.
Perhaps geez, or
...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 3, 2015 11:00 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
I do not have that supreme human good fortune but maybe for me I am
better off for it; as when the Thunderbird Miigis came to teach no one
could
I see. So unless you have something nice to say about MMY or the TMO, keep yer
yap shut, is that it?
Here's the deal, if you want that perspective you have it in spades with the
official TMO sites, and, increasingly, what is left of this one.
This site was created by Rick to provide a
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :
Thanks for your reply. I have a few things to add:
I see. So unless you have something nice to say about MMY or the TMO, keep yer
yap shut, is that it?
No, that's not it. Do you actually think I am a supporter of MMY and the
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Went to the Guru Purnima held by the local TM Center which was a pot luck
event at the vastu home of one our members. It was fun. About 30 people,
mostly older teachers but some younger members too. Came for the puja
I do not have that supreme human good fortune but maybe for me I am better off
for it; as when the Thunderbird Miigis came to teach no one could survive his
intense spiritual radiance in human form and he had to leave. Likewise
according to Judaism we cannot survive in the full presence of the
I always found him hard to listen to also, whether in person or on tape.
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
I do not have that supreme human good fortune but maybe for me I am better
off for it; as when the Thunderbird Miigis came to teach no one could survive
his intense spiritual radiance in human form
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Went to the Guru Purnima held by the local TM Center which was a pot luck
event at the vastu home of one our
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :
Right, I thought not. If you ever actually worked day to day with him you'd
have a very different experience that included some incredibly banal behavior,
including temper tantrums, jealousy, obsession with money and a near melt
none of these claims are news to me and I don't care. Every day peoples
behavior gets misinterpreted, all our behaviors are subjects to interpretation.
Recently I heard someone say that he asked Maharishi in the early 2000's if he
was deliberately slowing the growth of the Movement for a time
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
none of these claims are news to me and I don't care. Every day peoples
behavior gets misinterpreted, all our behaviors are subjects to interpretation.
Recently I heard someone say that he asked Maharishi in the early
experience of some sort.
From: srijau@... srijau@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
I do not have that supreme human good fortune but maybe for me I am better
off for it; as when the Thunderbird
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Went to the Guru Purnima held by the local TM Center which was a pot luck event
at the vastu home
I suggest reading Svoboda's Vimalananda books, his Guru had some interesting
strategies for driving away people who he didn't consider serious.
guises but the feeling that
he/she is there is unmistakable. I am sure everyone here has had a similar
experience of some sort.
From: srijau@... srijau@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
I do
: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
Maharishi wasn't God.Maybe
What's also sort of interesting, Ann, is that for many, over the years, their
opinion of MMY and the TMO becomes more and more diminished to the point that
he is totally insignificant, but yet, here they are, seven days a week talking
about him, and his organization.
Maybe Nabby was right,
. Isn't subjectivity fascinating?
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon
@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
I do not have that supreme human good fortune but maybe for me I am better
off for it; as when the Thunderbird Miigis came to teach no one could survive
his intense
That's totally cool Srijau, if your experience has been all positive. As the
Aussy's say good on ya!
If you are aware of the reality of working closely with MMY, and chose to
ignore or to accept and not care, then it sounds like all is close to perfect
for you.
My only point in bringing
I've seen these kinds of comments from R and others over the years. Basically
it boils down to it was years ago, what's yer problem, get over it!
Why is this so hard to understand? We (those of us who were knee deep into the
TMO during the 70s and early 80s) spent the better part of our 20s
Well, no man is a hero to his valet, no writer is a hero to his editor, and I
guess no guru is a hero to his intimates. There has to be some distance there
for the ideal to be perceived and maintained. And as I think we have agreed on
this forum in the past, the personality never becomes God,
Went to the Guru Purnima held by the local TM Center which was a pot luck event
at the vastu home of one our members. It was fun. About 30 people, mostly
older teachers but some younger members too. Came for the puja which is always
powerful in a Shakti sense. Boring video of MMY followed.
Right, I thought not. If you ever actually worked day to day with him you'd
have a very different experience that included some incredibly banal behavior,
including temper tantrums, jealousy, obsession with money and a near melt down
when one of his girlfriends (who flew the coup) couldn't be
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
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: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
Hello! Jai Guru Dev! Your post violates the finest feeling level of the Yahoo
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. Whoever conceived of or 'okayed' this little gem should be
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From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 8:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
Well, met several old TM’ers at these meditations too. Found an old TM teacher
from San Francisco who was at MIU in Santa Barbara meditating here too. These
are long meditations that draw serious meditators to this retreat. Lot of
people and a lot of different paths. New Jersey is far
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
Hello! Jai Guru Dev! Your post violates the finest feeling level of the Yahoo
guidelines. It would be best if you spoke only the truth that is sweet.
Hoho, this ad violates just about everything that is related to
Me: So you were in Chicago seeing another guru? SO off the program! And what,
exactly are serious meditators?
You: Well, met several old TM’ers at these meditations too. Found an old TM
teacher from San Francisco who was at MIU in Santa Barbara meditating here too.
These are long
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :
Me: So you were in Chicago seeing another guru? SO off the program! And what,
exactly are serious meditators?
You: Well, met several old TM’ers at these meditations too. Found an old TM
teacher from San Francisco who
Other gurus encourage their followers to visit other saints and to learn
additional things from them. Maharishi wanted to jealously shelter his
followers.
On 08/02/2015 08:18 AM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Me: So you were in Chicago seeing another guru? SO off the program!
Buck, you've returned, we were getting worried, a forum can't run without good
moderation - anything can happen! But I'm glad you've been having a good time
howling at the moon.
Now you're back perhaps you'd care to scroll down through the list and answer
a few questions about your
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gurus Purnima
Other gurus encourage their followers to visit other saints and to learn
additional things from them. Maharishi wanted to jealously shelter his
followers.
On 08/02/2015 08:18 AM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Me: So you were
thats more along the lines of if I can imagine anthing negative to say, I will
say it. Maharishi didnt spend much on himself. He was frugal. He was not
extravagant. He certainly built an empire of positive ventures to benefit all
of humanity and that took money to do. We have a tremendous
Question Srijau: Did you ever work with MMY, spend real day to day time with
him?
thats more along the lines of if I can imagine anthing negative to say, I will
say it. Maharishi didnt spend much on himself. He was frugal. He was not
extravagant. He certainly built an empire of positive
Well put, precisely Mike!
No, Maharishi was more likely sheltering his income base. Maybe this is just
the cynicism in me but I remember someone asked M about owning pets. He said
they were a *drain*. Naturally everyone took that as that they would *sap* your
psychic energies or some
Look any defense of MMY meets with criticism in some quarters, but it seems
just as likely that because TM was teaching movement as much as a knowledge
movement, that it may have made more sense to have some prohibition on this
seeing other teachers prohibition.
I would say it was for this
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I dunno man, that sounds WAY off the program and hardly Dome-worthy!
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