Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread Bhairitu
seventhray1 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > >> Right, 'Bhairitu', you're posting under a >> pseudonym, but I'm the one that is scared. >> >> > Point, Willytex > > Nothing wrong with using handles and probably wise when it comes to FFL.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread emptybill
Steve, When a specter takes amphetamine, it feels powerful and struts around like a rakshasa. When a specter takes an entheogen, it feels godlike and commanding. It acts like an asura, determined to interject anywhere. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > Joe, now I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread seventhray1
Richard, have you seen those master fisherman with a line with multiple hooks and a fish on each onecan I get an amen on that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > Oh well, at least you have Seroquel. > > > > > > > Can you send me one o

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > I've posted over 6,000 messages since 1998 on > Google Groups and Yahoo! Groups in order to > help people, but it has been really slow > going lately, except for Joe - he really wants > some help, apparently. Get it out Joe! Richard, s

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > Oh well, at least you have Seroquel. > > > > > > > Can you send me one of yours? > > > > azgrey: > > Boy, you *are* a Texan aren't you? > > > See, Ray, it works almost every time! >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread seventhray1
and yet he does post under his real identity, or at least everyone knows who he is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > ...and that electricity-less hut in the country. > > A nut in his hut. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > Right, 'Bhairitu', you're posting under a > pseudonym, but I'm the one that is scared. > Point, Willytex

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" willytex@ wrote: > > It's our way of providing the opportunity > > for others to work off their karma by > > saying things about us and making fun of > > our spiritual path - it's a cleansing

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > You live in a cemetery? > Hilarious! Good one, Joe. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It must get really lonely being you Willy. > > > > > > Joe: > > > A nut in his hut. > > > > > Thanks

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-05 Thread Joe
You live in a cemetery? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > It must get really lonely being you Willy. > > > > Joe: > > A nut in his hut. > > > Thanks for all your support, Joe. Some people > just feel better when they have someone to talk > to. It IS lonely

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread WillyTex
> > It must get really lonely being you Willy. > > Joe: > A nut in his hut. > Thanks for all your support, Joe. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. It IS lonely at the top. The view from up here is really nice - on a clear day I can see all the way to Radiance,

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread WillyTex
> > I belong to a very, very minor Hindu > > sect whose sadhana includes blatant > > displays of inappropriateness in public. > > > > It's our way of providing the opportunity > > for others to work off their karma by > > saying things about us and making fun of > > our spiritual path - it's a c

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread WillyTex
> > > Oh well, at least you have Seroquel. > > > > > Can you send me one of yours? > > azgrey: > Boy, you *are* a Texan aren't you? > See, Ray, it works almost every time!

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread Joe
...and that electricity-less hut in the country. A nut in his hut. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I belong to a very, very minor Hindu > > > > sect whose sadhana includes blatant > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread Joe
Whup, you've turned into Fartbrain again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > Ray: > > > > Sometimes I read Richard's posts, > > > > and I can't figure out what all the > > > > fuss is about... > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread azgrey
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > See, Ray, it works almost every time! > > > > azgrey: > > It must get really lonely being you Willy. > > > Well, I've got you and Joe hanging on my > every word. > > > Oh well, at least you have Seroquel. > > > Can you s

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread WillyTex
> > See, Ray, it works almost every time! > > azgrey: > It must get really lonely being you Willy. > Well, I've got you and Joe hanging on my every word. > Oh well, at least you have Seroquel. > Can you send me one of yours?

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread azgrey
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > I belong to a very, very minor Hindu > > > sect whose sadhana includes blatant > > > displays of inappropriateness in public. > > > > azgrey: > > So your coitus with prairie dogs take > > place in public? > > > See, Ray, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread WillyTex
> > They've got a lot of repressed anger hidden > > away. Let's bring it out! Let's help them, > > not hate them... > > Bhairitu: > You sound really scared of us, Willy! > Right, 'Bhairitu', you're posting under a pseudonym, but I'm the one that is scared.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread WillyTex
> > I belong to a very, very minor Hindu > > sect whose sadhana includes blatant > > displays of inappropriateness in public. > > azgrey: > So your coitus with prairie dogs take > place in public? > See, Ray, it works almost every time! Now they want to get REALLY pesonal. Don't you just hat

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > Ray: > > > Sometimes I read Richard's posts, > > > and I can't figure out what all the > > > fuss is about... > > > > Joe: > > Somedays Richard remembers to take his > > medication and other days he doesn't. > > He can be mightily forge

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread Joe
My thoughts exactly. That Willy is a strange one. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > I belong to a very, very minor Hindu > > sect whose sadhana includes blatant > > displays of inappropria

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread azgrey
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > I belong to a very, very minor Hindu > sect whose sadhana includes blatant > displays of inappropriateness in public. > So your coitus with prairie dogs take place in public? Boy, that sure is inappropriate Willy. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
t; > > From: WillyTex > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is > > Enlightened! > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 10:52 AM > > > > > > > > My morals were formed when

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote: > Ray: > >>> Sometimes I read Richard's posts, >>> and I can't figure out what all the >>> fuss is about... >>> >>> > Joe: > >> Somedays Richard remembers to take his >> medication and other days he doesn't. >> He can be mightily forgetful... >> >> > Ray - Sometime

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread Peter
--- On Wed, 8/4/10, WillyTex wrote: > From: WillyTex > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is > Enlightened! > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 10:52 AM > > > > > My morals were formed wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread Joe
I have it all Willie-boy and I'm living large, while you're in your electricity-less hut in the country! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > So, what happened to all the money, Joe? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread WillyTex
> > My morals were formed when I was a teenager > > and haven't changed much since then - what > > is right to me then, is still right to me > > now: don't lie ...and don't make things up. > > Joe: > Really Willy-boy? You're going to try and > sell this notion to THIS group, who read > you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-04 Thread Peter
Well I used to be in only Unity consciousness, but now I'm in Brahman consciousness! --- On Tue, 8/3/10, seventhray1 wrote: > From: seventhray1 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is > Enlightened! > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread emptybill
Seventh, forget joe and his pejoratives. He doesn't any know better. It is the entheogens. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > Maybe that's it. I can't really get a handle on him. Not that I try that hard, but still.. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread seventhray1
Maybe that's it. I can't really get a handle on him. Not that I try that hard, but still.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > It's really very simple Ray. Somedays Richard remembers to take his > medication and other days he doesn't. He can be mightily forgetful. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Joe
It's really very simple Ray. Somedays Richard remembers to take his medication and other days he doesn't. He can be mightily forgetful. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > Here's what I don't get. Sometimes I read Richard's posts, and I can't > figure out what all

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Joe
Willie-boy: My morals were formed when I was a teenager and haven't changed much since then - what is right to me then, is still right to me now: don't lie ...and don't make things up. Joe: Really Willy-boy? You're going to try and sell this notion to THIS group, who read your wildly made

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Joe
wrote: > > From: emptybill > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is > Enlightened! > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 7:40 PM > > > You're right. The scam is revealed. Psychologists only do

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread seventhray1
Here's what I don't get. Sometimes I read Richard's posts, and I can't figure out what all the fuss is about. He sounds wise, gentle, friendly. And then other times he is so toxic, that I won't go near him. The other day I think he said he had read thousands of books on spirituality in it's d

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread WillyTex
Judy: > Likewise, seeing you as having unresolved > personal resentments is a *lot* more charitable > than seeing you as a "villain with a nefarious > agenda." I should think you'd be relieved that > I don't cast you as a nefarious villain... > Curtis is now a TMO type, in reverse. If anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread seventhray1
The other day I speculated that when someone reappears after not having posted for sometime, you somehow expect to see some change. Something different that looks like they have progressed in personal growth. I said I didn't know what it looked like, but I think this is what it looks like. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread emptybill
But ... but ... what about the Woodfords?!? I still have to read the whiners here! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: > > From: emptybill emptyb...@... > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, G

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Peter
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, emptybill wrote: From: emptybill Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 7:40 PM You're right. The scam is revealed. Psychologists only do what they do fo

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Curtis and I had a good long exchange specifically > > about MMY--certainly Curtis felt we were talking > > about "real" things--before Curtis decided to turn > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread emptybill
t...@... wrote: > > > From: PaliGap compost...@... > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened! > > snip > > > With all the talk here sometimes of "epistemology" I'm > > surprised that "Narcissistic Personali

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > It's very creepy to consider

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > It's very creepy to consider that this kind of crap is > > > likely the primary or main dish and limit of

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > Curtis and I had a good long exchange specifically > about MMY--certainly Curtis felt we were talking > about "real" things--before Curtis decided to turn > it into a personal discussion of how I choose my > "beliefs." It didn't get into

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:22 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > So far so good. I haven't been offended by anything she has said in this > discussion. I disagree with a lot but it has all been cordial. And by now > the shift from the topic to my perceived flaws is a pretty well-worn road. As > long as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Peter
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, PaliGap wrote: > From: PaliGap > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is > Enlightened! snip > With all the talk here sometimes of "epistemology" I'm > surprised that "Narcissistic Personality Disorde

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2010, at 1:33 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > As usual, she never d

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On Aug 3, 2010, at 1:33 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > As usual, she never dealt with your message. As Sal > > > says, she can't. So she does the next best thing

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
Gee, you'd think that after making a complete horse's ass of himself by claiming I'd been in a TMO "cocoon" since learning TM and therefore wasn't aware that MMY had a bad reputation among the non-TM public, Barry'd try to be a *little* more careful he didn't screw up with his next post. But no...

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > Anyway, my take on your unresolved resentment came > up in response to your silly claim that I considered > you a "villain with a nefarious agenda" after I'd > objected to the way you'd managed to twist my balanced > view of MMY into an

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread emptybill
> Perhaps books CAN teach us something. >I'm thinking Orwell and Popper. You're leaving out one of the greatest but less known philosophic texts, Venus on the Half-Shell, which addresses our ultimate human question - "Why are we born to suffer and die?". > It reminds me of discussions of ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > "We all have personality disorders now" > http://www.newstatesman.com/200507110021 Excellent. Money quote (referring to the DSM-IV list of diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder): "It sounds frightfully specific, but loo

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > I was trying to see your point about the distinction > between Maharishi's role and his personality. I get it > that you don't feel understood or feel I am > misrepresenting your POV. I couldn't find the quote > but at one point

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Aug 3, 2010, at 9:57 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > And in any case, it seems to me you have both sets of > >> unresolved feelings, affection and resentment, the > >> conflict between them also being unresolved. > > > > Well I'l

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread emptybill
> Gotta agree with Sal's assessment here. Judy not only (as you suggested, Curtis) tried to divert attention away from the real topic … > I strongly support your challenges to her to >deal with the real topic … Are you kidding? The only real question is whose hand the gun will be in after the d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 3, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Peter L Sutphen wrote: > That was my doing, Rick. But it's gone way off topic since did that. Excuses, excuses... > > Peter > > > On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:06 PM, "Rick Archer" wrote: > >> I sure will feel relieved when this thread with “Rick is Enlightened!” in >> t

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:. > Gotta agree with Sal's assessment here. Judy > not only (as you suggested, Curtis) tried to > divert attention away from the real topic > (Maharishi and his NPD) and onto y

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Rick Archer
I sure will feel relieved when this thread with "Rick is Enlightened!" in the subject fizzles out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Aug 3, 2010, at 1:33 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > As usual, she never dealt with your message. As Sal > > says, she can't. So she does the next best thing, > > from her point of view...she takes the thread that > > is discussing w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 3, 2010, at 1:33 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > As usual, she never dealt with your message. As Sal > says, she can't. So she does the next best thing, > from her point of view...she takes the thread that > is discussing what she doesn't want discussed and > renders that thread all but unreadable

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Aug 3, 2010, at 9:57 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > And in any case, it seems to me you have both sets of > > > unresolved feelings, affection and resentment, the > > > conflict between them also being unresolved. > > > > Well

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Peter L Sutphen
Great post , Richard. I like the point you make regarding the value of a spiritual teacher is with your own experience of that teacher. Some people got a lot of mileage from MMY and some didn't. The flaw most people make is trying to establish their own experience of MMY as the "gold standard" o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 3, 2010, at 9:57 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > And in any case, it seems to me you have both sets of >> unresolved feelings, affection and resentment, the >> conflict between them also being unresolved. > > Well I'll be the judge of that, or the judge that matters to me. I am doing > fin

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > That's 1 post out of 19, or slightly more > than 5%. I am betting that I am SO much "not > your role in life" that you'll spend a full > 40% of your remaining posts this week dis- > sing me or referring to me in some way. Actually, I thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > What you're really objecting to here is that a > > > lot of my rebuttals and corrections are of > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > Judy has once again, since she's getting her butt > royally kicked by Curtis, done what she always does > when cornered: Says Sal, working very hard to move up to Barry's level on the deluded fantasy scale. made the discussion/argu

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread WillyTex
Turq: > The fact that someone could possibly be so naive > and so lost in a belief system that they would > shell out thousands of dollars to learn to FLY, > simply because representatives of that belief > system said they could learn how indicates "nut > case" or, at the very least, "religi

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > What you're really objecting to here is that a > > lot of my rebuttals and corrections are of > > things *you've* felt the need to put on the > > record. You want to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > What you're really objecting to here is that a > lot of my rebuttals and corrections are of > things *you've* felt the need to put on the > record. You want to have a free hand with your > putdowns; you don't want to be accountable for

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > It's not really ad hominem. It *starts* with the observation > > > that your expressed view

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > You've never quite gotten the concept of simply > > wanting to have things on the record, have you? > > What I've never "gotten" (and I don't think > I'm alone here in t

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > It's not really ad hominem. It *starts* with the observation > > that your expressed views about MMY are so extreme as to > > seem irrational. Only then does it l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 3, 2010, at 8:19 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: >> >> I decided to go back and clear up a bunch of your >> misrepresentations, Curtis (inadvertent or otherwise), >> in this earlier post from you (breaking Barry's Rule >> again; oh, well!)

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
Meta-comment: I think this series has been one of our best in terms of tone and I appreciate that. Hopefully you have gotten a chance to express some view more explicitly. (I'm thinking of the belief distinctions) I have also found some productive pieces for me to think about. I was trying

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > You've never quite gotten the concept of simply > wanting to have things on the record, have you? What I've never "gotten" (and I don't think I'm alone here in this), is your perceived need *to* "go on the record" on a forum read by a

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
Here goes Barry, ignoring me again! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > I decided to go back and clear up a bunch of your > > misrepresentations, Curtis (inadvertent or otherwise), > > in this earlier post

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > I decided to go back and clear up a bunch of your > misrepresentations, Curtis (inadvertent or otherwise), > in this earlier post from you (breaking Barry's Rule > again; oh, well!): Translation: "Ooops. I pretended to bail from the a

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-03 Thread authfriend
I decided to go back and clear up a bunch of your misrepresentations, Curtis (inadvertent or otherwise), in this earlier post from you (breaking Barry's Rule again; oh, well!): --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread WillyTex
emptybill: > My collections enable me to query the Lama. > Maybe Turq thinks his 'opinions' are somehow apriori and that he didn't learn them from the written word. But we all get most of our knowledge from our senses, mainly our eyes and our ears. Most of the things we know we either heard

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > >> When the mind's eye rests on objects illuminated by truth and > >> reality, it understands and comprehends them, and functions > >> intelligentl

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: Don't you mean. > Thinking is effortless. Typing takes almost no energy. Expressing my ideas - Priceless

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread emptybill
My collections enable me to query the Lama. He is a Geshe Rabjam so I need to be precise when discussing a particular view. The customary FFL self-congratulatory laudations that are found here are for those who are omniscient or inflationary. "Book-ess? … Book-ess!? I don't need no stinkin' book

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote: > >>> Yet Another Book. >>> >>> Did you somehow think that after quoting >>> it your position would be perceived as >>> stronger? :-) >>> >>> > Bhairitu: > >> Bill must have quite a library. Either that >> or his walls are plastered with pages from >> books. Som

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > I think you have a tremendous amount of > > > unresolved personal resentment against MMY that > > > prevents you from taking a rational view of him. > > > > Turq: > > For the record, I do not agree with your assessment > > of

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > I think you don't take your own b.s. to heart Truer words... He doesn't practice what he preaches and projects his flaws onto others. That's one approach to getting rid of the self. since you obviously > believe in yourself - even tho

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > I think you have a tremendous amount of > > > unresolved personal resentment against MMY that > > > prevents you from taking a rational view of him. > > > > Turq: > > For the record, I do not agree with your assessment > > of

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread WillyTex
> > Yet Another Book. > > > > Did you somehow think that after quoting > > it your position would be perceived as > > stronger? :-) > > Bhairitu: > Bill must have quite a library. Either that > or his walls are plastered with pages from > books. Sometimes I imagine that is what > Willy's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread Bhairitu
emptybill wrote: > Your own "books" are your opinions. > > As best I can tell, their most important quality for you is that they > are "yours". > > Likewise, your opinions are "just opinions" as you proclaim so often. > Thus they do not and cannot have any worth to anyone else since by your > own a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > >> When the mind's eye rests on objects illuminated by truth and >> reality, it understands and comprehends them, and functions >> intelligently; but when it turns to the twilight world of change >> and decay, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread emptybill
Your own "books" are your opinions. As best I can tell, their most important quality for you is that they are "yours". Likewise, your opinions are "just opinions" as you proclaim so often. Thus they do not and cannot have any worth to anyone else since by your own admission they lack reference to

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > No, I don't think you're a villain with a nefarious > > agenda. I think you have a tremendous amount of > > unresolved personal resentment against MMY > > Hey you

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > When the mind's eye rests on objects illuminated by truth and > reality, it understands and comprehends them, and functions > intelligently; but when it turns to the twilight world of change > and decay, it can only form opinions, its

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread WillyTex
> > Is that what it is? I was wondering. Seems like an awful > > lot of energ put into..this meta talk, or scientific > > empiricism, or something. > > Thinking is effortless. > TM is based on thinking, that's why it is effortless activity. > Typing takes almost no energy. > Typing

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread emptybill
When the mind's eye rests on objects illuminated by truth and reality, it understands and comprehends them, and functions intelligently; but when it turns to the twilight world of change and decay, it can only form opinions, its vision is confused and its beliefs shifting, and its eems to lack int

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: [to Curtis:] > > No, I don't think you're a villain with a nefarious > > agenda. I think you have a tremendous amount of > > unresolved personal resentment against MMY that > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread WillyTex
> > I think you have a tremendous amount of > > unresolved personal resentment against MMY that > > prevents you from taking a rational view of him. > > Turq: > For the record, I do not agree with your assessment > of Curtis and either his motivations or his > "unresolved resentment" towards Mah

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > Instead you cling to a comfortable caricature of me as a > > villain with a nefarious agenda. To each his or her own. > > Oops, I better not let this stand lest

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > Those "places" are defined by accepted scripture ... NONE of which are anything more than a claim made by a human being based on their or others' subjective experience. No "scripture" in human history has ever been written by anyone o

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Since understanding my point is not your agenda you failed > > again to understand what my point was or why I was making it. > > I have accepted the limits

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is Enlightened!

2010-08-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > Your meta-talk sounds like scientific empiricism. > > Is that what it is? I was wondering. Seems like an awful lot of energy > put into..this meta

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