[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread Duveyoung
Angela Mailander wrote: That's all well and good, but it is another thing to say that those who suffer have deserved it. Language matters. Words matter. Edg: Words matter to whom? Seems to me that the whom part trumps the words part. Writing here at FFL has been an education for me about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
I have shifted many of my POVs considerably by reading posts here Edg. It is not just one person's post, but the shifting shapes of POVs being expressed reminding me of gray zones where I had sometimes colored black and white. Words here do have the power to shift a person's POV but it isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, The POV washing machine here at FFL is merely another object that your ego projects upon. If your ego starts changing how it projects, no surprise since that's what we call learning, but miss not that one's mind is always as if a fire hose spraying red paint on everything, and then the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
Edg, Our discourse is an example of change, big time. Much more productive and we both had to work at creating it. I'm not sure I am as far on the side of inner change driving outer. Of course it is huge, but I purposely put myself in situations that hit me with new stuff despite my natural

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We imbue our environment with our definitions, and to me, the game of enlightenment asks us to entirely quit the definition business. Edg yep- less thought, more experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, Hey, we're getting along fabulously today! Gotta love it. Okay, I think we're down to our normal end-game of each of us doing a semantic shuffle. We've sorta got ourselves agreeing with the other, but, below, you finally called it, and noted that we don't know our definitions of inner

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread Larry
This may have nothin to do with nothin but it is yesterday's story and may be worth telling - I ride about Madison on a bike with a sign a friend made for me - it simply states Non consumption Changes Everything and occasionally it spurs up a conversation. especially with fellow bikers or peds

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-12 Thread satvadude108
I was in a movie theatre in Madison some years back. A baby was crying very loudly for an extended period before someone yelled PLEASE take that child outside. Almost instantly a reply came. Kids have right too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perfection in what IS

2008-04-11 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that is is right. That is true for me, certainly, and always has been. Moreover, compassion is built into the structure of manifestation. That's all well and good, but it is another thing to say that