tertonzeno wrote: This is only true (no object sought, thus one
gets straight to the Self) of more advanced persons. The vast
majority will undoubtedly experience nothing but ordinary mental
chatter, then become discouraged. TM cuts directly through the
chatter. In any event, Self-Inquiry must
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:47 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
Duveyoung, if you think that what is described below is anything like
TM, may I suggest to you that, perhaps, you never did TM properly?
Since Nab's out for the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Below is Ramana's Dhyana instructions: sure sounds like TM IN ALL
THE
IMPORTANT ways,
Are you insane? No wonder you play in traffic on a contraption
designed to swerve into the path of oncoming cars.
I got to about
Actually Edg, this is UNLIKE TM in all the important ways. Try reading
it again.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Below is Ramana's Dhyana instructions: sure sounds like TM IN ALL THE
IMPORTANT ways, and Ramana was not a Vedic scholar -- hardly
On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:47 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
Duveyoung, if you think that what is described below is anything like
TM, may I suggest to you that, perhaps, you never did TM properly?
Since Nab's out for the rest of the day, I'll be glad to say it for
him...
Might I suggest a checking?
These naysayer reactions to the words of Ramana show that so many
posters here are woefully inept, and perhaps literally too dumb to
mindfully read words and actually trying to have clarity about the
Ramana's intent -- such that they resort to flaming to try to mask
their failure at such
Duveyoung wrote:
Below is Ramana's Dhyana instructions: sure sounds
like TM IN ALL THE IMPORTANT ways, and Ramana was
not a Vedic scholar -- hardly educated at all.
Sri Ramana Maharshi: Concentrate on that one whom
you like best.
Concentration is counterproductive in reaching a
---More differences than similarities, chiefly: Self Inquiry involves
mentation on meaning, at the initial level of experience. (in the
advanced level of Self Inquiry, there's just the Self and no
consideration of the meaning); but this is putting the cart before the
horse, since the majority
Matrix,
I think I see your point, but to me, when one asks the question: Who
am I? yes, this is an act, a willfulness, but, unlike
mantra-meditation, there is no object sought to be held in
consciousness. The intellect and the heart do not get involved in
Self Inquiry. The Self, not the
---This is only true (no object sought, thus one gets straight to the
Self) of more advanced persons. The vast majority will undoubtedly
experience nothing but ordinary mental chatter, then become
discouraged. TM cuts directly through the chatter.
In any event, Self-Inquiry must absolutely be
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