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2014-10-05 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Does cosmic consciousness still work when you are under an anaesthetic? I'm guessing not. The jury may be out on this one, because of a somewhat scary phenomenon called anesthesia

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2014-10-05 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : In order for perception to be perception, there must be a physical nervous system. Even for universal consciousness to be aware of things (even of Itself), there must be structure --some kind of physiology, even if it is made of

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2014-10-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
they don't have to have surgery, just go under the anesthesia From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Research on Cosmic Consciousness... more detail

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2014-10-05 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
CC doesn't depend on awareness of the outside world, only on self-awareness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Does cosmic consciousness still

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2014-10-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There does appear to be a physiological correlate to Samahdi, and the permanent witnessing, though it must be more comprehensive than anything western medicine recognizes, because the effect perpetuates, in an unaltered state, no matter what the relative awareness is doing. There are other side

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2014-10-04 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't do the bullshit capital s, since the big s self is the only one I identify with. So when I say self, I mean the real one. There cannot be a meaningful distinction, between something real, and something imagined. Not the same ballpark. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

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2014-10-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
To summarize (and probably oversimplify) Fred's research: Samadhi is where a healthy brain is not doing anything, but is still alert. In more detail, during PC during TM, the connectivity of the default mode network (the part of the brain that activates when you're not trying to DO something)

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2014-10-04 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
!This is fabulous scientific validation and description in an age of reason! Transcending meditation haters and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi bashers eat crow! Jai Guru Dev, -Buck LEnglish5@... wrote : To summarize (and probably oversimplify) Fred's research: Samadhi is where a healthy brain

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2014-10-03 Thread salyavin808
Does cosmic consciousness still work when you are under an anaesthetic? I'm guessing not. The main worry about this research is that the existence of different attentional states somehow implies that the cosmology as presented by Marshy and his vedic tradition is correct. By cosmology I

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2014-10-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Does cosmic consciousness still work when you are under an anaesthetic? I'm guessing not. The jury may be out on this one, because of a somewhat scary phenomenon called anesthesia awareness. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anesthesia_awareness) This

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2014-10-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/3/2014 1:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Does cosmic consciousness still work when you are under an anaesthetic? /Non sequitur. A person has to be conscious to experience consciousness—the having of perceptions, thoughts, and feelings and awareness. A person under anaeshesia by definition

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2014-10-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Does cosmic consciousness still work when you are under an anaesthetic? On 10/3/2014 3:38 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The jury may be out on this one, because of a somewhat scary phenomenon called anesthesia awareness.

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2014-10-03 Thread marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm not sure what CC is, but if it includes witnessing sleep I don't think any physiological state could stop it. I think it should continue under anesthesia or even drunkenness. Should continue, even when the body drops too.

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2014-10-03 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just as it says in the Gita, about pure consciousness being unable to be influenced or destroyed, yes, the witness of pure awareness, continues, through any permutation of awareness the mind is in - sleep, dreaming, intoxicated, awake. These states of awareness are due to the gross functioning

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2014-10-03 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
BINGO!!! Yes, it is our eternal self, that lives beyond time and space. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi@... wrote : I'm not sure what CC is, but if it includes witnessing sleep I don't think any physiological state could stop it. I think it should continue under anesthesia

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2014-10-03 Thread danfriedman2002
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : BINGO!!! Yes, it is our eternal self, that lives beyond time and space. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi@... wrote : I'm not sure what CC is, but if it includes witnessing sleep I don't think any

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2014-10-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/3/2014 10:12 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: BINGO!!! Yes, it is our eternal self, that lives beyond time and space. /Some more minor comments: // // //According to MMY, the Self is eternal and transcendental to time and space; the self lives inside time and

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2014-10-03 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What is the role of the brain in Samadhi and higher states? Sparaig recently quoted MMY: Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. … Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the

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2014-10-03 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mac said: Just as it says in the Gita, about pure consciousness being unable to be influenced or destroyed, yes, the witness of pure awareness, continues, through any permutation of awareness the mind is in - sleep, dreaming, intoxicated, awake BINGO!!! Yes, it is our eternal self,

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2014-10-03 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/3/2014 12:02 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And might imply a genetic propensity towards Samadhi in some populations or families relative to others. /This might be a good time to review the definition of samadhi:/ 1. Sanskrit (saúmaúdhi) n. Jap., sanmai or zanmai 2.

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2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Maharishi suggested that the question where does the 'enlightened man' go when he dies? is simply a misunderstanding. Once Self is realized, there is no going. Unity is where this situation is directly perceived, but even for someone in CC, the question no longer makes sense, as you

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2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
In order for perception to be perception, there must be a physical nervous system. Even for universal consciousness to be aware of things (even of Itself), there must be structure --some kind of physiology, even if it is made of Universal Consciousness with no defining characteristics

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2014-10-03 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 3:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Research on Cosmic Consciousness... more detail Just as it says in the Gita, about pure

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2014-10-02 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for sharing this - Very well written, and good science - (I just read the second one) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The criteria the Fred used to find his subjects in CC was that they had to have continuous integration of transcendental experiences (TE)