On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
Apparently, the study didn't look at pre/post meditation effects,
but only
the effects DURING meditation. If that is the case, is it possible
that all, or
many, of the TM-meditators were taking some ayurvedic substance that
reduced their free
On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:52 PM, hugheshugo wrote:
The ME does have a testable explanation, the field theory MMY
provided. It's just that the mechanism contradicts all the
known laws of physics, psychology and sociology. That doesn't
mean it's rubbish of course, it just means you've got a long
way
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:52 PM, hugheshugo wrote:
The ME does have a testable explanation, the field
theory MMY
provided. It's just that the mechanism contradicts
all the
known laws of physics, psychology and sociology.
That doesn't
mean it's rubbish
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
Apparently, the study didn't look at pre/post meditation effects,
but only
the effects DURING meditation. If that is the case, is it possible
that all, or
many, of
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
The TM group came in last against the other two
controls. That means we 'won,' because what was
being measured isn't of value.
Sparaig Science.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, Vaj, guess you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
The TM group came in last against the other two
controls. That means we 'won,' because what was
being measured isn't of value.
Sparaig Science.
Er, um...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
The TM group came in last against the other two
controls. That means we 'won,' because what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
The TM group came in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Does anyone
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
The TM group came in last against the other two
controls. That means we 'won,' because what was
being measured isn't of value.
Sparaig Science.
Well of course in mantra-shastra it is said
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
In both cases, what you're describing seems to me
to be a clear case of drawing bulls-eyes around
arrows. Here's this thing that we *assume* has
something to do with enlightenment. Let's see if
we can find it in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote:
Well, Vaj, guess you are correct: TM is less in-lightening than
other meditation techniques. Moral is, if you want to glow in the
dark more, practice a meditation technique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
The TM group came in last against the other two
controls. That means we 'won,' because what was
being measured
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote:
However, the determination of oxidation
levels as the source of group differences needs to be verified further
to confirm our hypothesis.
I wonder if they were on any
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:05 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, sparaig wrote:
However, the determination of oxidation
levels as the source of group differences needs to be verified
further
to confirm our
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:03 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
The TM group came in last against the other two
controls. That means we
What the hell is going on here? All the folks who quit TM for
whatever reason were as much lab rats as anyone, and TM didn't cut
it for them. THAT'S SCIENCE! They did the experiment, they did the
time in the chair, and they got zip. They may have gotten pure gold
and are simply stupid when
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:05 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
[...]
I wonder if they were on any amla-based Ayurvedic Pharmaceuticals
(Triphala, Amrit Kalash, Chyavanaprash,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:03 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Does anyone detect the taste of sour grapes here? :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:05 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
[...]
I wonder if they were on any
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
[...]
In both cases, what you're describing seems to me
to be a clear case of drawing bulls-eyes around
arrows. Here's this thing that we *assume* has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
[...]
In both cases, what you're describing seems to me
to be a clear case of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
[...]
In both cases, what you're describing seems to me
to be a clear case of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
[...]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
Jeez, I can't believe I forgot nature support that ultimate
piece of mood-making target-drawing.
How many times have you heard someone say I got some nature
support today. When what they they really meant to say
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
It's not me making these claims, I'm just passing them on.
Your was meant rhetorically. I guess I should have said their, instead.
Part of
the Invincible America success has been no hurricanes, but last
year
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
[..]
Jeez, I can't believe I forgot nature support that ultimate
piece of mood-making target-drawing.
How many times have you heard someone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
[...]
It's not me making these claims, I'm just passing them on.
Your was meant rhetorically. I guess I should have said their,
instead.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
[..]
Jeez, I can't believe I forgot nature support that ultimate
piece
Edg wrote:
What the hell is going on here? All the folks who quit TM for
whatever reason were as much lab rats as anyone, and TM didn't cut
it for them. THAT'S SCIENCE! They did the experiment, they did the
time in the chair, and they got zip.
They may have gotten pure gold
and are
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