[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-16 Thread authfriend
Robin--many thanks for a fascinating response. I'll be back to you shortly, but I'll need a little time to ponder. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-16 Thread Ravi Yogi
Oh no not that Omnisubjective crap again Robin.. Purity of first person ontology - YES Omnisubjectivity - BS http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/292128 More like multi-subjective, multi-exclusive-subjectivity. On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:02 PM, maskedzebra wrote: > Yifu: > > I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-15 Thread whynotnow7
I simply don't find any problem with experiencing myself as everything and everything as Oneness, but that isn't inconsistent with seeing everything as the creation of a personal God either. It could be called a paradox, or it could be called the way things really are, a dual perspective, so tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > Note that GMH is not saying one's small self becomes the > > large Self of God. He is saying that just as Ch

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-15 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anartaxius" wrote: > > > > I do not see how it would really be possible to sin > > against god, since from that point of view there is > > no opposition. > > From which point of view? God's poin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > Note that GMH is not saying one's small self becomes the > large Self of God. He is saying that just as Christ was > both human and divine at the same time, so it is possible >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
I wasn't running away empty away, I came looking for you in that mansion of yours. I couldn't find you, I was yelling, tired and frustrated, standing on one of these huge mound of books that you refer to as Mt. Kailash? I apologize for not guessing it. But that was no reason to start flinging

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread emptybill
What they say is that all these appearances are the very contemplations of god and thus are the ineffable presences of grace. However, there is no book but You, M.F. Still running away? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > Empty just leave me the fuck alone OK?? > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > > > I do no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
Empty just leave me the fuck alone OK?? OK, OK..Your books are indeed right, OK? fine?? Happy? Now just go for a walk.. Hmm...What do your books say about walking? Or the Sunset at the beach? On Nov 14, 2011, at 6:47 PM, "emptybill" wrote: > "What b.s. > > Intellect (created / uncreated):

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread emptybill
"What b.s. Intellect (created / uncreated): The Intellect, in a certain sense, is `divine' for the mind and `created' or `manifested' for God: it is none the less necessary to distinguish between a `created Intellect' and an `uncreated Intellect', the latter being the divine Light and the former

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
On Nov 14, 2011, at 5:00 PM, "authfriend" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > > > I do not see ho

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > I do not see how it would really be possible to sin > > > against god, since from th

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anartaxius" wrote: > > I do not see how it would really be possible to sin > against god, since from that point of view there is > no opposition. >From which point of view? In the formulation I quoted, those committing the sin would be those who had not ach

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-14 Thread anartaxius
I do not see how it would really be possible to sin against god, since from that point of view there is no opposition. But I will STFU about it. That last sentence almost sounds like Barry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > I don't think he's denying distinctions in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-13 Thread authfriend
I don't think he's denying distinctions in this quote, but I don't think he's talking about a hierarchy of levels either, rather to the contrary. His main point is that it's absurd to make an issue of the difference, and he points out that anyone who's in a position to make the choice he describes

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-13 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
The quotes from Maharishi below were first published in 1963. In later years he seemed to make greater distinctions between GC and UC, and the term BC came up in later years. It makes me wonder what changes in his own experience occurred in the subsequent years. Even here he says the principle o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > Note that GMH is not saying one's small self becomes the > large Self of God. He is saying that just as Christ was > both human and divine at the same time, so it is possible > for a human being—under grace—to sense the union of > Christ'

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Well, this was certainly an effective troll. Uh, no, it wasn't, actually. Of 35 posts in the thread, almost none actually addressed the metaphor. Obbajeeba liked it. Robin was the sole poster to argue with it, and he did so only in the c

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
Dear raunchydog, Yes, that is confounding to me: that Barry Wright insults, offends, bullies, abuses—and yet will never stand his ground. He only answers those whom he suspects have some sympathy with him. He avoids the danger of the tension set up by someone who would put the onus on him to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
Dear Merudanda, I actually missed this post—but suspected it existed when I read your second post addressed to me. Now I have found it, I feel even more drawn to responding to you; and I will. I have no choice, and I am going to enjoy this exercise. I probably will have to—to even begin to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra
Thank you for prompting me to look at this again The Word of God shines bright in human form, And thus we shine with him, Building up the limbs of his beautiful body. (Verbum dei clarescit in forma hominis, Et ideo fulgemus cum illo, Edificantes membra sui pulcri corporis) Kéeps gráce: thát keeps

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread merudanda
kiss your hand touched by the incredible longwindedness of your wordy praise thank you my sunshine singing in the rain and handkiss In dreams I kiss your hand, madame, your typing fingertips, And while in slumberland, madame, I'm begging for your lips. I haven't any right, madame, to do the things

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread seventhray1
This was always one of my favorites. Still is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUzs5dlLrm0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > Then I saw your Fairy Field life post, now I'm a believer > > > I thought FFL was only true in fairy tales > Meant for someone else but not for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread merudanda
Thank you for prompting me to look at this again The Word of God shines bright in human form, And thus we shine with him, Building up the limbs of his beautiful body. (Verbum dei clarescit in forma hominis, Et ideo fulgemus cum illo, Edificantes membra sui pulcri corporis) Kéeps gráce: thát keeps

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread emptybill
Barry's Baritric-I has opined here many times that everything that can be said is just opinion ... i.e. there is not nor can there be such a thing as truth. Like writing "there is no such thing as writing" or declaring it is "absolutely true that only relative truth exists", Barry continues to tr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread Bhairitu
Funny, after all this chat yesterday about the Monkees, I searched to see if anything new had happened with my 60's Seattle group. To my surprise one of our recordings wound up on a soundtrack of an Adam Sandler movie "Strange Wilderness". I put the Bluray in my NF queue to check it out. On

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
whynotnow7: > Yeah, you're a real (yawn) bad-ass, Barry. > You are unable to have a discussion with > anyone about anything, and now that this is > widely recognized, you attempt to play the > only card you have left, supposedly relishing > the role of troll, button-pusher, and > misanthro

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread raunchydog
Robin, you have quite a talent for removing the mask from slippery characters. Kudos! Judy has calling Barry out for the same behavior for years and he still doesn't get it. Never will. A zebra doesn't change its stripes. [http://dudelol.com/DO-NOT-HOTLINK-IMAGES/Orange-jelly-Nailed-it.jpg] h

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread whynotnow7
Yeah, you're a real (yawn) bad-ass, Barry. You are unable to have a discussion with anyone about anything, and now that this is widely recognized, you attempt to play the only card you have left, supposedly relishing the role of troll, button-pusher, and misanthrope. Did you dress up as Freddy

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > Then I saw your Fairy Field life post, now I'm a believer > > I thought FFL was only true in fairy tales > Meant for someone else but not for me. > But FFL was out to get me > That's the way it seemed. > Disappointment haunted all my drea

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread merudanda
Then I saw your Fairy Field life post, now I'm a believer I thought FFL was only true in fairy tales Meant for someone else but not for me. But FFL was out to get me That's the way it seemed. Disappointment haunted all my dreams. Then I saw your post, now I'm a believer Not a trace of doubt in m

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread merudanda
lol You MZ lives in limbs, And looks through eyes not yours With lovely yearning? "Keeps grace," (abiding in the "sanctifying grace"): "that keeps all his goings graces"? And denying now the "instress"ness, the shaping force within creatures of nature and art at FFL, in contradiction to your prev

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-10 Thread turquoiseb
Well, this was certainly an effective troll. :-) But the more I think about it, the more apt an analogy it is to Fairfield Life, or to Fairfield itself, and the level of fanboy fanaticism that people who frequent those worlds often display. What I expected when I posted this was for about half the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread obbajeeba
Just copied the first song I saw on youtube with "Barry," in it. lol Here is a Tibetan chant found only in the foothills beyond the foothills, over the river and yeah, that there place where this is, "No More Singing." http://soundcloud.com/deadtrooper/dead-trooper-cynicist-05-no --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread seventhray1
Personally, my style: ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gMkiOPSeA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcd3XuQwDQQ > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > The Barry Wright Syndrome > > > > Barry decides he has a p

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > You could not have picked a better metaphor! > > > > It's not exact. After all, the Monkees may have had

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread maskedzebra
As kingfishers catch fire, dragonflies draw flame; As tumbled over rim in roundy wells Stones ring; like each tucked string tells, each hung bell's Bow swung finds the tongue to fling out broad its name; Each mortal thing does one thing and the same: Deals out that being indoors each one dwells; Se

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > You could not have picked a better metaphor! > > It's not exact. After all, the Monkees may have had > a bigger impact on the course of human history than > Maharishi di

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > You could not have picked a better metaphor! It's not exact. After all, the Monkees may have had a bigger impact on the course of human history than Maharishi did. They gave Jimi Hendrix his first US tour, as their opening act. Until J

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread Bob Price
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ft_enkr9c From: maskedzebra To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:08:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor The Barry Wright Syndrome Barry decides he has a point of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcd3XuQwDQQ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > The Barry Wright Syndrome > > Barry decides he has a point of view about something—e.g. Puja is trained > moodmaking; persons on FFL are all bigoted Monkees Fan Club members. He then > asser

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread maskedzebra
The Barry Wright Syndrome Barry decides he has a point of view about something—e.g. Puja is trained moodmaking; persons on FFL are all bigoted Monkees Fan Club members. He then asserts that his point of view must be the equivalent of reality. But you see, he never conceives of the responsibilit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread Bob Price
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIC8JTQMMQ&feature=related From: seventhray1 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 5:12:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor Which I guess means that you post mo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread Bob Price
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehK0WhPsNUw From: seventhray1 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:58:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor You realize of course that you are among the top posters

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread seventhray1
Which I guess means that you post mostly in a vacuum, and then respond mostly to those posts, which is also sort of funny. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > Which is made even a little more humorous in that you are on record of > not reading probably 60% (by volum

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread seventhray1
Which is made even a little more humorous in that you are on record of not reading probably 60% (by volume) of the posts here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > You realize of course that you are among the top posters. Probably one > the top three. Based on this y

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread seventhray1
You realize of course that you are among the top posters. Probably one the top three. Based on this you might say that you participate just to make sure that people are engaging in the behavior you describe below. You wouldn't want to miss anything. I think that is a sign of addictive behavior

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monkees Fan Club metaphor

2011-11-09 Thread obbajeeba
You could not have picked a better metaphor! One day, I may share the true story of The Monkees and the stolen limo, and Mutiny at the Bounty. But not right now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Sometimes, scanning the list of posts on FFL searching for one that I >