[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
Card, with all due respect, a more relevant question might be, Why would anyone *want* siddhis? I pose this as a question for those on this forum who might fall into that category, and look forward to their answers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread Vaj
On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:47 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Card, with all due respect, a more relevant question might be, Why would anyone *want* siddhis? So you can imagine your ego is connected to world events, like earthquakes, hurricanes, the stock market and stuff like that. It's expansion of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread WillyTex
I think there are at least two possible basic reasons, why many modern Indian gurus despise paatañjala-yoga-siddhis: TurquoiseB: Card, with all due respect, a more relevant question might be, Why would anyone *want* siddhis? I pose this as a question for those on this forum

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Card, with all due respect, a more relevant question might be, Why would anyone *want* siddhis? Well, according to Maadhava VidyaaraNya's Shankara-dig- vijaya, the Great Shankara himself utilized cittasya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Card, with all due respect, a more relevant question might be, Why would anyone *want* siddhis? Well, according to Maadhava VidyaaraNya's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: snip Patanjali actually states These experiences resulting from samyama are obstacles to samadhi, but appear to be attainments or powers to the worldly mind. From the perspective of MMY's teaching on how to practice the sutras,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread Bhairitu
Something more interesting to do other than chop wood and carry water. :-D TurquoiseB wrote: Card, with all due respect, a more relevant question might be, Why would anyone *want* siddhis? I pose this as a question for those on this forum who might fall into that category, and look

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread yifuxero
One of my Teachers - Hsuan Hua - stated that when he was living in Hong Kong (10 years?...I've forgotten); no typhoons hit the City due to the fact that he was using siddhis to block or dissipate the typhoons. Although he rarely used siddhis to directly impact the physical world; he regularly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: One of my Teachers - Hsuan Hua - stated that when he was living in Hong Kong (10 years?...I've forgotten); no typhoons hit the City due to the fact that he was using siddhis to block or dissipate the typhoons. Although he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread yifuxero
Quite true! I had (and still do) some major differences of opinion with Hsuan Hua. I'm hoping to acquire Siddhis to be able to predict the future, especially the stocks, commodities and most important, the Forex markets. Among the Gurus claiming or implying that they have Siddhis, I have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread Bhairitu
This is how siddhis are used in my tantric tradition. For example we learn the maran siddhis to help someone who has supposedly had a maran spell cast on them. yifuxero wrote: One of my Teachers - Hsuan Hua - stated that when he was living in Hong Kong (10 years?...I've forgotten); no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: One of my Teachers - Hsuan Hua - stated that when he was living in Hong Kong (10 years?...I've forgotten); no typhoons hit the City due to the fact that he was using siddhis to block or dissipate the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread WillyTex
he regularly used them to offset subtle negative influences, such as evil spirits and elementals... TurquoiseB: I think you meant to say that he *believed* that he was dispelling subtle negative influences You're a True Believer (TB) - nothing in your report below suggests that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread WillyTex
yifuxero: Among the Gurus claiming or implying that they have Siddhis, I have difficulty fathoming why they would then beg for money from their followers... That's because manifesting $$$ and begging from your followers are one and the same thing, but begging is a little easier, if you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu: This is how siddhis are used in my tantric tradition. For example we learn the maran siddhis to help someone who has supposedly had a maran spell cast on them... That makes a lot of sense - casting a 'spell' on someone who has had a spell cast upon them. A spell to get rid of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu: This is how siddhis are used in my tantric tradition. For example we learn the maran siddhis to help someone who has supposedly had a maran spell cast on them... That makes a lot of sense - casting a 'spell' on someone who has had a spell cast upon

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do many gurus shun siddhis? Part 1

2010-04-07 Thread emptybill
The word is marana - death causing. Hindi speakers like to drop the last syllable if it is an *a*. Just remember it as *mrita/amrita*- mortal/immortal. This word is contain in many mantras along with *phat*, the so-called weapon bija, used to burn away dross and the armor mantra *hum*