[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
What BS? Barry - you are the classic example of CD on this list here, bullying and screaming loud about people's exeriences and complaining/cautioning newcomers about certain posters, trying to bully people sharing their experiences and then when you get an earful back you back off with your drama

Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Bob Price
 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com snip Fitzgerald's statement 'the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time' really only works at the value of unity;  Not sure Fitzgerald studied much Vedanta,

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Turqoiseb said something really interesting: 'On the other hand, I thrive on cognitive dissonance; it defines for me some of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
I do appreciate the stories you have shared on Swami Rama and the ones from an earlier post challenging seekers with opposing views. However I don't know if anyone suggested CD as being an intellectual thang, discomfort implies energy, emotion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Fitzgerald's statement 'the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time' really only works at the value of unity; if you are operating on the level of logic, you can think of two ideas at the same time, but it is impossible to believe they are

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Turqoiseb said something really interesting: 'On the other hand, I thrive on cognitive dissonance; it defines for me some of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: What BS? Barry - you are the classic example of CD on this list here, bullying and screaming loud about people's exeriences and complaining/cautioning newcomers about certain posters, trying to bully people sharing their experiences and then

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Yes, in music dissonance drives forward. If you look at the history of Western music, it starts with chant, vocal, music primarily driven by the power of the meaning of words. Even as such music became polyphonic and dissonance appeared, the music was rather like a very even tapestry, a kind of

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: I do appreciate the stories you have shared on Swami Rama and the ones from an earlier post challenging seekers with opposing views. However I don't know if anyone suggested CD as being an intellectual thang, discomfort

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Denise Evans
recognizing the duality...we seem doomed to development of individual and collective destructive pathologies that teach through experiential pain and suffering. --- On Wed, 7/20/11, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: What BS? Barry - you are the classic example of CD on this list here, bullying and screaming loud about people's exeriences and complaining/cautioning newcomers about

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-19 Thread turquoiseb
: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is  the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational  drive to reduce dissonance) and what  F. Scott FitzgeraldÂ

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip I think it follows from the predilection. If you're a sutra kinda guy suddenly confronted with two contra- dictory ideas and thus experiencing CD, you might tend to react by trying to make it go away, using denial or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-19 Thread Bob Price
: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:31:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Turq, Just to clarify, I'm referring to the whole theory

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
-making. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:53:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I'm curious what everyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-19 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Turqoiseb said something really interesting: 'On the other hand, I thrive on cognitive dissonance; it defines for me some of the highest, most profound moments of my life. I actually seek it, as much as I

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-17 Thread Bob Price
turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com It all depends who you're clapping for, doesn't it? Yes turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com If you're clapping for the Backstreet Boys, then IMO nothing that either karma or koans can produce can save you from yourself. If, on the other hand, you are

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is  the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational  drive to reduce dissonance) and what  F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test  of a first rate mind is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is  the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational  drive to reduce dissonance) and what 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Bob Price
. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:53:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is  the difference

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it? Whoops, the keyboard missed me hitting the i. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all.

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread obbajeeba
Well, I think those American women are a belief. Someone's own mind is conflicted to think such a thing. hah --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: You're getting the definition of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/16/2011 01:01 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Duveyoung
For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/16/2011 08:39 AM, Bob Price wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Bob Price
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:26:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
are clapping for more meaningful claptrap, anything can happen, one hand or two. From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:26:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance Â

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Well, I think those American women are a belief. Someone's own mind is conflicted to think such a thing. hah Ooookayyy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote: snip Whoops, the keyboard missed me hitting the i. I type too damn fast. It is of course Bhair-i-tu and think about how Willy refers to me sometimes. ;-) Barry Two?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Vaj
On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Duveyoung wrote: For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? No, we just have two Barry's, just like we have two Willy's: Willy One and Willy Two.

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Duveyoung wrote: For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? No, we just have two Barry's, just like we have two Willy's: Willy One and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread Vaj
On Jul 16, 2011, at 7:46 PM, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Duveyoung wrote: For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? No, we just have two

[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance

2011-07-16 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
One is from Texas and one from Missouri. Willie Nelson was born in Abbott, Texas. http://mockingwords.blogspot.com/2010/04/willie-nelson-truther.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance (was Re: Behind the Scenes)

2009-07-09 Thread Jason
I think this was in 1998 or 99, I remember him ranting and raving on M-channel like a deranged madman.  It gave me the creeps.     I immediately visited my initator and he told me that Maharishi is angry only for our sake and not for his sake.  I believed him and did'nt take it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance Memes To Live By

2009-07-09 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:42 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: When the square root of one per cent of a group practices the TM- sidhis together in one place the result is coherence, harmony, and peace, except on the MUM campus, where

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing

2008-12-15 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry knows damn well I'm returning fire on Vaj but conveniently snipped Vaj's sexist attack on me. Not that it will make any difference in your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing

2008-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip If Barry wants to murder my unicorn, fine. Like this. What a drama queen thing to say. What could possibly BE more silly and childish and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing

2008-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Barry knows damn well I'm returning fire on Vaj but conveniently snipped Vaj's sexist attack on me. Not that it will make any difference in your dismissive attitude toward me, Peter, but for the sake of fairness I'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance

2008-12-14 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: A few weeks ago I stumbled upon one of the best- written Wikipedia articles I'd ever seen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance I repost the link because I think it's relevant to recent discussions in which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing

2008-12-14 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Having rapped once this morning about cognitive dissonance as something...uh...possibly less than admirable, when it is denied, I feel it my duty to expound upon cognitive dissonance as a Good Thing, as one of the greatest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing

2008-12-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Magic purifies my heart At the risk of sounding like Dr. Phil, How's that working for you lately? This is how pure your heart was just a few minutes ago: Vaj, Sexist Oinker in Chief, tuck yourself into a big plastic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing

2008-12-14 Thread Peter
Someone needs to get laid, and it ain't Turq! --- On Sun, 12/14/08, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 11:32

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good Thing

2008-12-14 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Someone needs to get laid, and it ain't Turq! --- On Sun, 12/14/08, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitive Dissonance As A Good