> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > We were COMMANDED by Jerry Jarvis to not attend lectures of other > > teachings, because, "The lecturer will warmly greet the TM initiator's > > being in the audience and thus the audience will ask itself 'Why is that TM > > teacher there except for him having doubts about TM?'" > > > > Yep, that TM anti-saint fealty test is an axiom the meditating community has > nearly most wholly rejected. Of course in contradiction Maharishi actually > sent people to see saints and other spiritual luminaries who were teachers. > Guru Dev certainly advocated it. In contradiction? So much for axioms. > >
If anything the anti-saint policy has turned the spotlight on TM's confusion. > > Are you ignoring that dome badges are lost by anyone BUT Hegelin who would > > be on one of Rick's panels? L.B. got banned, right? > > > > > > Hegelin -- why was he there except that the movement is reaching out in > > desperation? > > > > Of course, Maharishi can be seen as ecumenical and all-embracing of > > everything divine in the actions of others, but that was just good > > marketing to keep the priests and nuns and others from getting upset while > > he raked in the millons. Truth be told, TM practice comes along with TM > > philosophy, and TM philosophy has core axioms that are logically contrary > > to those of other religious efforts. TM is a religion. Period. > > > > And, Judy, would you please take a stance on Hegelin's quote. Do you agree > > with his precise wording? > > > > "In the yoga sutras of Patangali, which is the classic text of yoga, there > > are techniques to transcend -- transcending meditations for example -- > > which just take the mind like a rock to sink deeply into the transcendental > > source of thought." > > > > Tell us YOUR CONTEXT if you want to be clear here, what you mean when you > > use the words "mind, consciousness, awareness." > > > > Do you, say, 90-100% believe that Hegelin is enlightened by your standards? > > Just asking for your hunch -- of course you can't know for sure. If you > > think he's clear about definitions, then, well, I don't think there much > > hope that you're clear about definitions. I think Hegelin is nothing more > > than a well rehearsed parrot, and the parrot was given the wrong aphorisms > > to spout by rote. He's surface clever, and I bet he'd be exposed as a > > buffoon if, say, he'd agree to be interviewed by Rick instead of being on a > > panel and then ESCAPING FROM QUESTIONS. > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > No way, Maharishi would have done the same panel that even faintly > > > > suggested there were "other meditations that could lead to > > > > transcendence." > > > > > > Maharishi himself said that, for pete's sake. > > > > > >