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> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > We were COMMANDED by Jerry Jarvis to not attend lectures of other 
> > teachings, because, "The lecturer will warmly greet the TM initiator's 
> > being in the audience and thus the audience will ask itself 'Why is that TM 
> > teacher there except for him having doubts about TM?'"  
> >
> 
> Yep, that TM anti-saint fealty test is an axiom the meditating community has 
> nearly most wholly rejected.  Of course in contradiction Maharishi actually 
> sent people to see saints and other spiritual luminaries who were teachers.  
> Guru Dev certainly advocated it.   In contradiction?   So much for axioms. 
> 
>

If anything the anti-saint policy has turned the spotlight on TM's confusion.

  
> > Are you ignoring that dome badges are lost by anyone BUT Hegelin who would 
> > be on one of Rick's panels?  L.B. got banned, right?  
> >
> 
>  
> > Hegelin -- why was he there except that the movement is reaching out in 
> > desperation? 
> > 
> > Of course, Maharishi can be seen as ecumenical and all-embracing of 
> > everything divine in the actions of others, but that was just good 
> > marketing to keep the priests and nuns and others from getting upset while 
> > he raked in the millons.  Truth be told, TM practice comes along with TM 
> > philosophy, and TM philosophy has core axioms that are logically contrary 
> > to those of other religious efforts.  TM is a religion.  Period.
> > 
> > And, Judy, would you please take a stance on Hegelin's quote.  Do you agree 
> > with his precise wording? 
> > 
> > "In the yoga sutras of Patangali, which is the classic text of yoga, there 
> > are techniques to transcend -- transcending meditations for example -- 
> > which just take the mind like a rock to sink deeply into the transcendental 
> > source of thought."
> > 
> > Tell us YOUR CONTEXT if you want to be clear here, what you mean when you 
> > use the words "mind, consciousness, awareness." 
> > 
> > Do you, say, 90-100% believe that Hegelin is enlightened by your standards? 
> > Just asking for your hunch -- of course you can't know for sure.  If you 
> > think he's clear about definitions, then, well, I don't think there much 
> > hope that you're clear about definitions.  I think Hegelin is nothing more 
> > than a well rehearsed parrot, and the parrot was given the wrong aphorisms 
> > to spout by rote.  He's surface clever, and I bet he'd be exposed as a 
> > buffoon if, say, he'd agree to be interviewed by Rick instead of being on a 
> > panel and then ESCAPING FROM QUESTIONS.
> > 
> > Edg
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > No way, Maharishi would have done the same panel that even faintly 
> > > > suggested there were "other meditations that could lead to
> > > > transcendence."
> > > 
> > > Maharishi himself said that, for pete's sake.
> > >
> >
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