[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bal_Gangadhar_Tilak Books In 1903, he wrote the book The Arctic Home in the Vedas. In it he argued that the Vedas could only have been composed in the Arctics, and the Aryan bards

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I specifically asked her what she and her fellow scientists thought of the New Age attempt to co-opt her field, and was greeted by a level

[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms

2010-04-01 Thread FairfieldLife
BC - Brahman Consciousness BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi CC - Cosmic Consciousness GC - God Consciousness MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi OTP - Off the Program - a phrase used in the TM movement meaning to do something (such as see another spiritual teacher) considered in violation of Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] The Missing Caveat Emptor

2010-04-01 Thread TurquoiseB
Lurk, your question was a good one, and one that I will follow up on because it still resonates with me after pressing the Send key once. :-) In college I was a combination Sociology and English major. One of the reasons I never went on to graduate work in either field was my innate distrust of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: What is the hang up between trying to make a connection between these two, and using the terms consciousness and quantum mechannics in doing so? Yes! No, wait a minute... no? Thinking about this (and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread cardemaister
IMO, one of the best proofs of the fact that individual consciousness is subjective experience of some quantum mechanical (or possibly deeper) phenomena is that Erwin thought so? Wiki: Schrödinger stayed in Dublin until retiring in 1955. During this time he remained committed to his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I specifically asked her what she and her fellow scientists thought of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:25 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Are you saying that you have not had experiences that would be best described as operating at a subtler, or quantum level of awareness? If a true siddhi has ever been performed in the history of human kind, would this not be an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: If a true siddhi has ever been performed in the history

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: IMO, one of the best proofs of the fact that individual consciousness is subjective experience of some quantum mechanical (or possibly deeper) phenomena is that Erwin thought so? Wiki: Schrödinger stayed in Dublin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip *I* don't give a shit whether anyone agrees with my POV or not; other do, and are emotionally attached to people agreeing with them. snip The second is that *I am not trying to sell you anything*. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT

[FairfieldLife] Bravo Dem Rep Hank Johnson!!!

2010-04-01 Thread sgrayatlarge
You have turned science and geology on it's head yesterday (not April 1st) with your deep probing on the physical make up of the island- Guam and whether it can really hold up to the additional of 8,000 Marines and family that are going to be stationed there. I see a Nobel Prize in your future

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Missing Caveat Emptor

2010-04-01 Thread TurquoiseB
To follow up yet again :-), Lurk, here is an event that happened to me that -- to me -- is far more interesting and inexplicable than having witnessed levitation. And, as with the witnessing of levitation and other siddhis, I have *no* explanation for it. I don't even need one; it just happened.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip What part of I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU BELIEVE or I AM NOT TRYING TO SELL YOU ANYTHING do you not get? The part where you feel the need to USE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
A physicist, albeit a famous one, prescribed to a basic tenet of his religious beliefs and speculations -- and that proves consciousness is a quantum phenomenon. May I suggest someone has been sipping a bit too much Bushmills? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: (and I have no reason to believe he didn't), would this not be due to manipulating laws at a quantum level. Absolutely not. He just fucking levitated, that's all. I see. It's the ol', the universe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:25 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Are you saying that you have not had experiences that would be best described as operating at a subtler, or quantum level of awareness? If a true

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: (and I have no reason to believe he didn't), would this not be due to manipulating laws at a quantum level. Absolutely not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I specifically asked her what she and her fellow scientists thought of the New Age attempt to co-opt her field, and was greeted by a level

[FairfieldLife] Re: The biggest difference between the US and Europe

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Says a fellow that jumped from teacher to teacher all his life...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I specifically asked her what she and her fellow

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I specifically asked her what she and her fellow scientists thought

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: ME Using the language of a non sensory world to sensory ones is a good way to conflate terms that shouldn't be together. Tart Sex and Love? Excellent! IMO these words should not be separated! But the difficulties that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Top Ten Reasons Not to Buy an iPad

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Bet Vaj has already ordered his. ;-) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36099232/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets Nope, still haven't gotten over the sucky name. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: IMO, one of the best proofs of the fact that individual consciousness is subjective experience of some quantum mechanical (or possibly deeper) phenomena is that Erwin thought so? Wiki: Schrödinger stayed in

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The authors said that these findings shed light on the common mistake of lumping meditations together.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ban democracy to save the climate!

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Humanity has become like a disease to the planet and the planet will use it's immune system to free itself of the disease. Do you think we should

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB: It makes more sense to me to spend more of my time being open to *more* such mysteries than sitting around trying to ponder the old ones and come up with some bogus explanation for them... This post of Turq's is a classic case of metaphysical obsfucation! I wonder if Turq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: A physicist, albeit a famous one, prescribed to a basic tenet of his religious beliefs and speculations -- and that proves consciousness is a quantum phenomenon. May I suggest someone has been sipping a bit too much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ban democracy to save the climate!

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Hugo wrote: James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change In his first in-depth interview since the theft of UEA emails, the scientist blames inertia and democracy for lack of action Like capitalism

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The authors said that these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: cardemaister wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bal_Gangadhar_Tilak Books In 1903, he wrote the book The Arctic Home in the Vedas. In it he argued that the Vedas could only have been composed in the Arctics, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another source

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: The Origins of Yoga and Tantra: IndicReligions to the Thirteenth Century GeoffreySamuel http://www.amazon.com/Geoffrey-Samuel/e/B001HCYOEI/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_\ 1

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: IMO, one of the best proofs of the fact that individual consciousness is subjective experience of some quantum mechanical (or possibly deeper) phenomena

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Rick Archer wrote: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation A study to be published in April

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
Why do we need a study. Its totally clear there are good types of meditation and bad types. (Didn't anyone here listen to their intro lecture!!!???)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB: I have *no earthly idea* how or why these things occurred. Well, that pretty much sums it up: Turq has no idea what 'quantum mechanics' is, or even the general laws of physics! But, Turq sure does seem fond of those metaphysical terms like 'selves', 'spiritual', and

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The authors said that these findings shed light on the common mistake of lumping meditations together. Meditations differ in both their ingredients and their effects,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip And as reluctant as I am to use this example, if Rama levitated, (and I have no reason to believe he didn't), would this not be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread WillyTex
What part of I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU BELIEVE or I AM NOT TRYING TO SELL YOU ANYTHING do you not get? The part where you feel the need to USE CAPITAL LETTERS REPEATEDLY to insist that what Lurk believes doesn't affect you in any way? TurquoiseB: fuck you, cunt :-) So,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: carde: The Arctic Home in the Vedas... The question is, did the Aryan speaking people come from outside India? ...that book is

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The authors said that these findings shed light on the common mistake of lumping meditations together.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The study doesn't tout TM, it merely makes distinctions among three types of meditation, TM being one. Also note the *automatic* assumption that no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread Vaj
On Apr 1, 2010, at 11:19 AM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The authors said that these findings shed light on the common mistake of lumping meditations together. Meditations differ

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: snip The only interesting thing about the latest TM org employee research is that a landmark independent study way back in the 80's showed definitively that TM was not unique, but these bozons still keep trying to tell us it is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip It seems to me that there are three options available to someone who has in the past plunked his or her money down to learn the TM siddhis: 1. Assume that they work (or will eventually, Real Soon Now), and that there

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip But taking your comment on its own terms, double-blind is an appropriate method for some types of studies and not for others. (For some studies it isn't even *possile*.) Possible. Sometimes my B key sticks. Yeah, that's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Yep unitary is my experience. I feel sorry in a human way for Shirmer, Sam Harris, Gina, Curtis and Turqs, the doubting Thomas' full with lots of opinion, and denial, that It is not more of their experience too. They

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The authors said that these

[FairfieldLife] Democrat congressman afraid Guam might *tip-over*!

2010-04-01 Thread BillyG
Watch and this and BE afraid, be VERY afraid, these folks are making life and death decisions for us: http://digg.com/search?sort=newestfltdigg=o50s=site%3Ayoutube.com or, http://digg.com/world_news/Congressman_thinks_Guam_will_tip_over_and_capsize

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Mar 31, 2010,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: A physicist, albeit a famous one, prescribed to a basic tenet of his religious beliefs and speculations -- and that proves consciousness is a quantum

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The study doesn't tout TM, it merely makes distinctions among three types of

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread WillyTex
Meditations differ in both their ingredients and their effects, just as medicines do, so lumping them all together as 'essentially the same' is simply a mistake,' Dr. Shear said... Vaj: The only interesting thing about the latest TM org employee research is that a landmark

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-01 Thread WillyTex
carde: Tilak: The Rig Veda describes the geography of Northern India, so, I wonder why the Vedas don't mention a migration from somewhere else. If the Aryan speakers came from Siberia, wouldn't they have said something about it? Archaeology and Language: The Puzzle of Indo-European Origins

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democrat congressman afraid Guam might *tip-over*!

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG wg...@... wrote: Watch and this and BE afraid, be VERY afraid, these folks are making life and death decisions for us: http://digg.com/search?sort=newestfltdigg=o50s=site%3Ayoutube.com or,

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Notice that Stupid Sal Sounds like a great new doll line, Betsy Wetsie, Tea-Party Barbie and Stupid Sal. And to be fair and balanced we perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: A physicist, albeit a famous one, prescribed to a basic tenet of his religious beliefs and speculations -- and that proves consciousness is a quantum

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: A physicist, albeit a famous one, prescribed to a basic tenet of his religious beliefs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: carde: Tilak: The Rig Veda describes the geography of Northern India, so, I wonder why the Vedas don't mention a migration from somewhere else. If the Aryan speakers came from Siberia, wouldn't they have said

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: snip And thus, while a double blind is not possible in all cases, and its possible that none of the above possibility of subtle takes, marks or signs influenced the experiment, I personally, and I should carelessly venture

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: A physicist, albeit a famous one, prescribed to a basic tenet of his religious

[FairfieldLife] Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-01 Thread netineti3
Lot's of _discussion_ on the history of OMKARA. Here is a video of Ganapathy Saccidananda Swamiji who instructs about how to chant it the three different ways it has been chanted for the past 6-7 thousand years. From ancient Rishis to Egyptians. http://vimeo.com/9887638 --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-01 Thread emptybill
gange ca yamune caiva godaavari saraswati narmade sindo kaaveri jale 'smin sannidhim kuru --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: carde: Tilak: The Rig Veda describes the geography of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: TurquoiseB: I have *no earthly idea* how or why these things occurred. Well, that pretty much sums it up: Turq has no idea what 'quantum mechanics' is, or even the general laws of physics! But, Turq sure does

[FairfieldLife] http://www.globalgoodnews.com/

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
Alkaline Trio lead singer balances out dark lyrics with peaceful meditation by Christina Caldwell College TimesTranslate This Article http://www.globalgoodnews.com/cultural-news-a.html?art=1269988550222919\ 52#translate 31 March 2010 On 31 March 2010 College Times reported: Matt Skiba, lead

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democrat congressman afraid Guam might *tip-over*!

2010-04-01 Thread BillyG
Tip over and *capsize*...nice try Judy! Ha, ha, actually I guess the congressman has been suffering with Hepatitis C for some time... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG wgm4u@ wrote: Watch and this and BE

[FairfieldLife] India: Angry Villagers Bear Pollution Costs of Sponge Iron Industry

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
India: Angry Villagers Bear Pollution Costs of Sponge Iron IndustryBy Raj http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/ on 02/10/2010 in Uncategorized http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/ Again, on the question of who bears the cost, the answer is: the poor, women. More from the excellent Inter Press

[FairfieldLife] Triffids

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
TriffidsBy Raj http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/ on 02/8/2010 in Uncategorized http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/ You'll have noticed my fondness for science fiction-related metaphor. And, in the world of genetically modified crops, there's a lot of science and fiction. The benefits of

[FairfieldLife] Call me Brian

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
Raj PatelWebsite and Blog of writer, activist and academic, Raj Patel * Home http://rajpatel.org/ * Raj http://rajpatel.org/meet-raj/ * Books http://rajpatel.org/category/books/ * Blog http://rajpatel.org/blog/ * Events http://rajpatel.org/category/events/ * Videos

[FairfieldLife] He's Not The Messiah

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAAfeature=player_embedded#

[FairfieldLife] The hardest part was explaining it to their children...

2010-04-01 Thread do.rflex
Healthcare reformageddon - Living in a socialist nightmare! [This Modern World by Tom Tomorrow] Link: http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2010/03/29/t\ his_modern_world/story.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-01 Thread Bhairitu
Now you can have the best of both worlds! :-D http://phandroid.com/2010/04/01/verizon-iphone-to-dual-boot-android-rock-4g-lte/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Democrat congressman afraid Guam might *tip-over*!

2010-04-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG wg...@... wrote: Tip over and *capsize*...nice try Judy! Yes, it's called a *metaphor*, BillyG. This was actually a pretty clever one given that he was talking about the environmental balance on a small island, which is similar to a boat in that

[FairfieldLife] Alkaline Trio lead singer balances out dark lyrics with peaceful meditation

2010-04-01 Thread merlin
Alkaline Trio lead singer balances out dark lyrics with peaceful meditation by Christina Caldwell College Times31 March 2010 On 31 March 2010 College Times reported:   Matt Skiba, lead singer of popular music band Alkaline Trio,   talks about his music and how his practice of

[FairfieldLife] Proud to be an American…

2010-04-01 Thread nablusoss1008
Proud to be an American…By admin http://rajpatel.org/author/admin/ on 01/8/2010 in Uncategorized http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/ Reposted from The Huffington Post www.huffingtonpost.com/raj-patel/proud-to-be-an-american_b_417009.html [Recently American] Recently American I am the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: gange ca yamune caiva godaavari saraswati narmade sindo kaaveri jale 'smin sannidhim kuru Oops! I guess I was all wrong! ;)

[FairfieldLife] Republican Quote of the Day

2010-04-01 Thread do.rflex
The fact is that's not going to happen, OK? -- Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), quoted by the Nashville Business Journal http://nashville.bizjournals.com/nashville/stories/2010/03/29/daily23.h\ tml?ed=2010-03-31ana=e_du_pub , on his party's efforts to repeal the new health care law.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [snip] The interest of many of the early quantum theorists in mysticism isn't at all surprising. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: But luckily there are many new ways of interpreting it

[FairfieldLife] Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-01 Thread anatol_zinc
Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists I watched two videos of Deepak dialoging with atheists. In one case, the atheist was obviously aggressively angry from the start and Deepak kept his cool. But all Deepak did was condescend by displaying his brilliant mind of concepts

[FairfieldLife] Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-01 Thread WillyTex
netineti3: ...it has been chanted for the past 6-7 thousand years. From ancient Rishis to Egyptians. So, I wonder why 'OMKARA' wasn't mentioned by the historical Buddha? Something this popular and this important would surely have been one of the topics covered by him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_z...@... wrote: ME:Chopra does try your move of redefining God into something basic and obvious like existence that no one could argue with. This is a false move because it lacks the other associated beliefs about God which for many

Re: [FairfieldLife] Democrat congressman afraid Guam might *tip-over*!

2010-04-01 Thread Mike Dixon
it's all that CO2. From: BillyG wg...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 8:58:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Democrat congressman afraid Guam might *tip-over*!   Watch and this and BE afraid, be VERY afraid, these folks are

[FairfieldLife] More GOP Lies:: IRS to hire 16,500 armed agents to enforce Obamacare

2010-04-01 Thread do.rflex
Ron Paul: 16,500 ARMED bureaucrats coming to make this program work Republican Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin said http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589726,00.html on Fox News Sunday on March 21 that the IRS would get 16,000 agents to police this new mandate. Republican Sen. John Ensign of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-01 Thread Vaj
How big is a full install of the Android OS? On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Now you can have the best of both worlds! :-D http://phandroid.com/2010/04/01/verizon-iphone-to-dual-boot-android-rock-4g-lte/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Hoo boy. I've been away from the conversation till now, so I am sorry if my comments don't quite fit in, but First thanks for your reply. Some comments below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-01 Thread Vaj
On Apr 1, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Vaj wrote: How big is a full install of the Android OS? BTW, a good review from Walt Mossberg. Sounds more impressive than I expected. Apparently it could replace a laptop for someone like myself. Fast with long battery life:

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-04-01 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Mar 27 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 03 00:00:00 2010 397 messages as of (UTC) Thu Apr 01 23:54:07 2010 49 authfriend jst...@panix.com 40 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 38 WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com 35

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Do you really believe all that, lurk? You really believe that there's some alternate reality going on that you can't see (and that nobody else can either) but can feel or tap into every now and then, kind of like beyond the looking-glass type of thing?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Missing Caveat Emptor

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
That's a neat experience. But you know, there is probably an explanation for such an experience, but I don't really care to figure it out. But probably there is an explanation if one is so inclined. I mean thoughts are waves, and the human brain is both a transmmitter, and receiver, so maybe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Tart, do you happen to belive the twain will ever meet, or are the subjective world, and the objective world two seperate realities? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: A physicist, albeit a famous one, prescribed to a basic tenet of his religious beliefs and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-01 Thread emptybill
This kind of argument goes nowhere. 1. Buddhist teaching were oral at first and were not written for about 300 years. This is a long period of time and some scholars have used this fact to doubt that Gautama Buddha even existed. They point out that the Christian Gospels were written only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:25 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Are you saying that you have not had experiences that would be best described as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: That many things are a mystery does not make mysterious explanations for everything valid. Isn't this how science started?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The hardest part was explaining it to their children...

2010-04-01 Thread emptybill
Quite hilarious and almost as funny as Chick cartoon tracts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Healthcare reformageddon - Living in a socialist nightmare! [This Modern World by Tom Tomorrow] Link:

[FairfieldLife] Maddow on Warming Denier Koch Industries Pollution-Empire Network

2010-04-01 Thread do.rflex
Rachel discusses David Koch and his pollution-empire network with James Hoggan, the co-founder of DeSmogBlog.com: Watch here: http://www.desmogblog.com/jim-hoggan-msnbcs-rachel-maddow-show

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: This is a technical term for a non-sensory level of life. It may sound analogous to sensory experiences but why would you use it? It's use in science is highly specific. Slapping it on our sensory experience

Re: [FairfieldLife] Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-01 Thread Bhairitu
I don't know but probably because it varies from device to device. You did realize the article was an April Fools joke? ;-) Vaj wrote: How big is a full install of the Android OS? On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Now you can have the best of both worlds! :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: That was a great rap Lurk. I consider the fact that you are willing to take a position and then start a discussion with zero defensiveness a model for discussions here. I don't know if anyone has performed

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