Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Um, I think it's close enough Judy. But to someone who as a matter of course cannot see the forest for the trees, it probably has no semblance. Kinda, sorta seems like you had your eggs in the e-mails with me basket sorry

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I suggest you go back to how this topic began. Judy threw out the phrases enlightened days and genuine enlightenment with reference to Robin. I said I thought those phrases were inaccurate given that Robin himself called his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
No, that is most definitely not what I told Seraphita. I told her my family heritage was Presbyterian but that I did not have a religious upbringing. I also told her I was not a believer. So I'm wondering where you got the impression that I was a devout Christian. I remember another time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Judy, I don't want to throw cold water on any of your fantasies. (hey, that came out just the way I wanted), so create any scenario you want. My recollection was close enough I think. But, I realize I am treading on your sacred ground here, so I'm going to try to tip toe away, so you can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Anne, for the moment, I am content to let my comment, and Robin's post stand on their own without any additional commentary from me. And although I am not a big fan of the Olympics, I am enjoying watching them with my wife and daughter and cracking jokes as we go along. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
I'm not going to discuss my friendship with Robin, sorry, other than to say it was mutual. Boy, between you and Share, the stench in here is getting overpowering. No doubt Barry will fly in here overnight and deposit a bunch more piles of doodoo. Such spiritual people. and yikes II,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, actually I think this is where you and Judy go off track! Judy once told Seraph that she was raised Presbyterian. Judy has mentioned reading the ecclesiastical novels of Susan Howatch. In light of the current topic of God

[FairfieldLife] The Rhythmical Test:

2014-02-08 Thread dhamiltony2k5
I don't think it has anything to do with spiritual illumination. I scored 64% and I don't know nothing about rhythm. Though I can applaud with two hands clapping. -Buck http://tonometric.com/rhythmdeaf/ http://tonometric.com/rhythmdeaf/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Stevie, honest, it doesn't hurt me when you make a big fuss about something and get it badly wrong. I'm sure there are lots of people who know things about Robin that I don't. But you aren't one of them. sounds like this one hurt Judy. kinda has your ire up for some reason. and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Ann knows how it began. Remember her response to your original comment? Take her advice and go research the topic on your own rather than continuing to flounder around here without knowing what you're talking about, any more than you had any idea what my religious beliefs are. Ann, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread Share Long
Thank you emptybill for clarifying the Christian and Orthodox views on union between God and human. It was disconcerting to think that there was such a seperative divide between Eastern and Western religions on this most essential of religious concepts. On Saturday, February 8, 2014 5:20

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: and yikes II, this is pretty revealing. I didn't realize how deep the attachment went. Do you think it may have run mostly in one direction, though? Is this where things start to gravitate below the belt? And if so, why

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Anne, for the moment, I am content to let my comment, and Robin's post stand on their own without any additional commentary from me. I don't blame you since the quoted post doesn't exactly back up your point. But, that's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Nope, as I said, Stevie-poo (and Ann has said as well), nowhere near. You got it wrong, that's obvious. Acknowledge it (or not), and move on. Judy, I don't want to throw cold water on any of your fantasies. (hey, that came out just the way I wanted), so create any scenario you want. My

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Translation: He can't figure out how to dig himself out of this hole he's dug for himself. Standard Stevie. Anne, for the moment, I am content to let my comment, and Robin's post stand on their own without any additional commentary from me. And although I am not a big fan of the

[FairfieldLife] RE: Another Interesting Take on Addiction

2014-02-08 Thread s3raphita
Re I would hate for anyone to call me right wing: A European right-wing conservative would have views far closer to a typical American Democrat than to a Republican. Eg, the right for a woman to be able to opt for an abortion is almost universally accepted over here. But I would never label

[FairfieldLife] The early six-month (AEGTC) courses

2014-02-08 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Hey Thanks 7thRay. This is always something I appreciate about FFL and keeps me coming back, that folks pop up, folks “who were there” and can give an insight of recollection. -Buck 7thRay27 wrote: Hey Mike, Since I know you like this kind of thing, I'll relate a few stories

[FairfieldLife] RE: Another Interesting Take on Addiction

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re I would hate for anyone to call me right wing: A European right-wing conservative would have views far closer to a typical American Democrat than to a Republican. Eg, the right for a woman to be able to opt for an abortion is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Judy, best to just let your perceptions and fantasies go unimpeded. (as though there's a choice in the matter). But you must realize, that for you, things are always going wrong in the minds of people who disagree with you. I mean that is your calling card, and that's not going to change. But

[FairfieldLife] RE: Another Interesting Take on Addiction

2014-02-08 Thread s3raphita
By the way Ann, re your recent photo upload: that's a splendid hound you have. I'm jealous. I am more of a cat lover myself but all domestic animals are endlessly fascinating. Much more enjoyable and rewarding than a colour TV! Those who do TM are supposed to keep pets out of the room when they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Stevie-poops, you aren't doing yourself any good with this crap. You aren't clever enough to patronize anybody; you just make yourself look increasingly foolish, especially when the mistake was yours in the first place. Judy, best to just let your perceptions and fantasies go unimpeded. (as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Judy, you will just have to live with another unfulfilled desire. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Nope, as I said, Stevie-poo (and Ann has said as well), nowhere near. You got it wrong, that's obvious. Acknowledge it (or not), and move on. Judy, I don't want

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
He's been well trained by Barry. What do you expect? Is this where things start to gravitate below the belt? And if so, why Steve? Is it not possible to engage in a discussion without getting personal and far-fetched in your unfounded theories?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Anne, both you and Judy think that I totally missed the mark in my recollection of Robin's post from several years ago. I don't think I did miss the mark, at least by much. But what is wrong with my feeling that Judy had some attachment to Robin? I mean she said as much, (and I am not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
How many times have you said such over the past 17 years? I'd say over a thousand. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Translation: He can't figure out how to dig himself out of this hole he's dug for himself. Standard Stevie. Anne, for the moment, I am content

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Think you can get a little more morally smelly, Stevie-boy? Are you in some kind of competition with Share? Anne, both you and Judy think that I totally missed the mark in my recollection of Robin's post from several years ago. I don't think I did miss the mark, at least by much. But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
you're boring Judy. no one can beat you in this game of yours. and no sensible person would want to. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Stevie-poops, you aren't doing yourself any good with this crap. You aren't clever enough to patronize anybody; you just make

[FairfieldLife] RE: Crazy Raam crap

2014-02-08 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Well, Fairfield seems to generally have a lot of currency experts like these. They kind of occupied the Ron Paul campaign. At a point it seemed Ron Paul did not really know what hit him. Nothing like friends. Always has been a lot of lectures and seminars on money/currencies in Fairfield.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Wow, has it been that many holes you've dug for yourself and then couldn't get out of? How many times have you said such over the past 17 years? I'd say over a thousand. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Translation: He can't figure out how to dig himself

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
God bless you Judy. God bless you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Think you can get a little more morally smelly, Stevie-boy? Are you in some kind of competition with Share? Anne, both you and Judy think that I totally missed the mark in my recollection of

[FairfieldLife] RE: Marshy's Marketing

2014-02-08 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Dear MJ, you seem jealous of the Maharishi in publishing this time-line of yours and the color commentary in it. The guy (Maharishi) evidently was incredibly successful in his life. At the least in leading and creating large changes in culture in a lot of ways the Maharishi was also quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Anne, This post was over a year old. In the body of the post at some point by one of the participants is mentioned Starbucks. Now if you wish to fault me over this detail, or any other detail, no problem. But I stand by the my overall point that Robin had a friend that appeared to call

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Judy, draw whatever conclusions you wish to draw. It is fine with me. If you feel I missed the point completely, I am okay with that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Nowhere near, Stevie baby. Here's what you claimed: And then we have his daily confessional

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Now you are making me laugh. Yes Judy, yes. That many holes at least. And you have called me on each of them. Thank God! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Wow, has it been that many holes you've dug for yourself and then couldn't get out of? How many times

[FairfieldLife] RE: Another Interesting Take on Addiction

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: By the way Ann, re your recent photo upload: that's a splendid hound you have. I'm jealous. I am more of a cat lover myself but all domestic animals are endlessly fascinating. Much more enjoyable and rewarding than a colour TV!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Crazy Raam crap

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Well, Fairfield seems to generally have a lot of currency experts like these. They kind of occupied the Ron Paul campaign. At a point it seemed Ron Paul did not really know what hit him. Nothing like friends. Always has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Anne, This post was over a year old. In the body of the post at some point by one of the participants is mentioned Starbucks. Now if you wish to fault me over this detail, or any other detail, no problem. But I stand by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Anne, both you and Judy think that I totally missed the mark in my recollection of Robin's post from several years ago. I don't think I did miss the mark, at least by much. Steve, as I said, I don't really care one way or

[FairfieldLife] Iranian Warships Sailing to the US?

2014-02-08 Thread jr_esq
One wonders about the current leadership of Iran. He appears to be intent on intimidating the US military forces. But they don't have the firepower to shoot it out with the US. Or, it could be just a bluff.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Anne, you are saying, Trust me, because I know what is going on. I'm not going to tell you anything about it, but I'm in the know Well, I don't operate that way, and I don't know many who do. So as they say, and I don't mean this in an impolite way, but put up, or shut up. There is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread steve.sundur
Ah, now this is Anne we've come to know. No worries. Anne, read Robin's post. Read the various comments I have made about it. Now, what I am gathering is that you think I am mistaken! Yes, I managed to pick that up.! Now, I've told you why I came to the conclusions I've come to. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
She is in the know. On this point, as it happens, so am I. Of course neither of us is going to tell you anything about Robin's private life that he didn't divulge here; what are you, nuts? Ironically, though, as I told you before, he'd already written a number of times about his friend who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
No, go look up the fallacy of appeal to authority. You don't know what you're talking about, no surprise. You are wrong not because Ann is an authority, but because, duh, you got it wrong, and the evidence is on the record in the posts in this exchange plus Robin's post from December 2012.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Raam

2014-02-08 Thread authfriend
Missed this earlier... He didn't say his enlightenment was a delusion. He said enlightenment per se, although very real and genuine, is a delusion. You've been told this now five or six times between Ann and me, so now when you say it, it's a lie, because you know otherwise. You are

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