Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Karma Yoga

2018-07-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As much as ™ itself is said to be effortless meditation it does take some 
discipline to do. At the outset it is actually something you ‘do’.  

 I have these old cassette tapes from the India TM teacher training courses 
with Maharishi, outdoor lectures with crows cawing in the background and such. 
He says plainly that ™ does take some concentration (in particular) to do, to 
recognize what is going on and ‘do’ the practice, it requires a little action 
to do. 

 So yes, TM it could be said is ‘karma yoga’ from that standpoint and then all 
those old meditators out in coffee shops when they could be meditating, are 
just ill-disciplined loafers.. ‘taking it easy and taking it as it comes..’ as 
if that is a spiritual practice in itself. 
 

 

 

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 According to the concordance, on pg 303 of SofB, there's something on karma 
yoga.
 Hope this helps.

 

 cardemaister offers:
 At least YF seems to be karma yoga par excellence: simultaneous intense action 
(karma) and

 "non-action", samaadhi (yoga)??
 




 On Thursday, July 12, 2018, 1:09:47 AM CDT, eustace10679 
 wrote: 
 

 

   
 No, that's not it. I remember reading plainly that TM *is* Karma Yoga, the 
important issue being that after diving in you *have* ti get out and transfer 
to the outer world of action the what you got from diving in. That's why in TM 
extended practice -- without outside action -- is not recommended under normal 
circumstances and unlike other meditation practices. I remember reading it in 
the Science of Being -- and I've also read the Commentary.
 

 Maharishi's statement was straightforward and it did not involve 
interpretation. I think everybody should know about it. If anybody has the book 
handy and haven't read it, This statement remained in my memory as the most 
interesting in the book. And BTW it was written many years before the 
introduction of the sidhi program.

 

 Eustace
 

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The Meditation Meter Website
http://emf.neocities.org/tm/meditationmeter.html 
http://emf.neocities.org/tm/meditationmeter.html

 


 










  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Appropriating Patanjali Yoga

2018-07-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There is a professor who teaches religion at U Missouri who often brings his 
students up to the vedic yagyas that are scheduled out in the Fairfield 
meditating community, see: http://vedyagya.blogspot.com/ 
http://vedyagya.blogspot.com/

 , he gets called on as an expert witness in to the colossal lawsuit actions 
going on between different (posture) yoga organizations and teachers trying to 
seize trademark over ‘yoga’. He is called to speak to explain how little there 
is in vedic and hindoo scripture specific to posture asana. Not much there to 
hang a hat or turban on that is not made up or is necessarily spiritual ‘yoga’ 
by scripture..
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It could seem that material western culture is appropriating what were Eight 
limbs of yoga down to trademarks, like inside the marketing of ‘yoga’ as 
postures, though posture in practice is only noted in a couple or so of 
incidental comments of Eastern spiritual scripture,,
 

 These excerpts from, Namaste Nation http://rumyaputcha.com/
 

 What “Cultural Appropriation” Misses..
 Too often the conversation about cultural flows across color lines devolves 
into a useless debate about appropriation versus appreciation, a reductive 
rhetoric that misses, content. 
 

 To this point—in 2016 the Indian government created a new “yoga visa” 
category, specifically for sixty-day yoga teacher training programs, which 
cater to Western (White) women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NVqjsmZxRg. 
 ..
 A closer look at the numbers corroborates this point and reveals some 
startling statistics. According to recent industry data as well as research 
conducted by the National Institutes of Health, 36.7 million U.S. adults 
practice yoga. 73% are women and a whopping 80% identify as White. Mattel 
released a blonde “Yoga Teacher Barbie 
https://www.amazon.com/barbie-can-yoga-teacher-doll/dp/b0074uxqak” in 2012—a 
testament to the ways White women identify with and are identified by yoga in 
the United States. American Girl sells a yoga gear set 
https://www.amazon.com/American-Girl-Yoga-Gear/dp/B004QJHIMO, too. But, it’s 
not just that yoga is an incredibly homogenous and aspirational White female 
culture, it’s also an astoundingly upper-class culture. As of 2017 
https://www.statisticbrain.com/yoga-statistics/, over 40% of yoga practitioners 
earned over $75,000 a year, and 25% over $100,000 annually. In other words, 
yoga studios are the new country clubs.

 The rabid commercialization of words like “namaste” provides a perfect 
case-in-point for how this system operates. A quick Google search of “namaste,” 
for example, pulls up a host of bizarre, but rampant mistranslations as well as 
a range of gendered lifestyle products, from jewelry and t-shirts that read 
“Namastay in Bed” to a Canadian television show called “Namaste Yoga,” 
featuring mostly White and light-skinned women doing yoga in beautiful 
locations in the woods or on a beach at sunset. /
 


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 

 Spiritually, some of the Eastern saints in coming to the West like Ammachi, 
Karunamayi, Mother Meera and others have reflected their deep respect and 
admiration for Maharishi’s work and the place of Fairfield as a meditating 
community. 
 
 

 Each one of these people in their own way articulate a marvel at what is 
happening in the West generally with the heightening of more people in 
spiritual life.  From their travels they observe how many Westerners are 
actively pursuing spirituality, noting that in ways there is more of spiritual 
cultivation occurring in the West now than possibly even in India. What they 
mark is their seeing more Westerners who may have their time and resources 
devoted to enabling a prioritization of spiritual cultivation in their life 
practice, and while in India by contrast so many have to work so hard to just 
exist are left with little time or energy to lend towards spiritual life. 
 

 

 

 



  




[FairfieldLife] Re: Appropriating Patanjali Yoga

2018-07-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It could seem that material western culture is appropriating what were Eight 
limbs of yoga down to trademarks, like inside the marketing of ‘yoga’ as 
postures, though posture in practice is only noted in a couple or so of 
incidental comments of Eastern spiritual scripture,,
 

 These excerpts from, Namaste Nation http://rumyaputcha.com/
 

 What “Cultural Appropriation” Misses..
 Too often the conversation about cultural flows across color lines devolves 
into a useless debate about appropriation versus appreciation, a reductive 
rhetoric that misses, content. 
 

 To this point—in 2016 the Indian government created a new “yoga visa” 
category, specifically for sixty-day yoga teacher training programs, which 
cater to Western (White) women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NVqjsmZxRg. 
 ..
 A closer look at the numbers corroborates this point and reveals some 
startling statistics. According to recent industry data as well as research 
conducted by the National Institutes of Health, 36.7 million U.S. adults 
practice yoga. 73% are women and a whopping 80% identify as White. Mattel 
released a blonde “Yoga Teacher Barbie 
https://www.amazon.com/barbie-can-yoga-teacher-doll/dp/b0074uxqak” in 2012—a 
testament to the ways White women identify with and are identified by yoga in 
the United States. American Girl sells a yoga gear set 
https://www.amazon.com/American-Girl-Yoga-Gear/dp/B004QJHIMO, too. But, it’s 
not just that yoga is an incredibly homogenous and aspirational White female 
culture, it’s also an astoundingly upper-class culture. As of 2017 
https://www.statisticbrain.com/yoga-statistics/, over 40% of yoga practitioners 
earned over $75,000 a year, and 25% over $100,000 annually. In other words, 
yoga studios are the new country clubs.

 The rabid commercialization of words like “namaste” provides a perfect 
case-in-point for how this system operates. A quick Google search of “namaste,” 
for example, pulls up a host of bizarre, but rampant mistranslations as well as 
a range of gendered lifestyle products, from jewelry and t-shirts that read 
“Namastay in Bed” to a Canadian television show called “Namaste Yoga,” 
featuring mostly White and light-skinned women doing yoga in beautiful 
locations in the woods or on a beach at sunset. /
 


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 

 Spiritually, some of the Eastern saints in coming to the West like Ammachi, 
Karunamayi, Mother Meera and others have reflected their deep respect and 
admiration for Maharishi’s work and the place of Fairfield as a meditating 
community. 
 
 

 Each one of these people in their own way articulate a marvel at what is 
happening in the West generally with the heightening of more people in 
spiritual life.  From their travels they observe how many Westerners are 
actively pursuing spirituality, noting that in ways there is more of spiritual 
cultivation occurring in the West now than possibly even in India. What they 
mark is their seeing more Westerners who may have their time and resources 
devoted to enabling a prioritization of spiritual cultivation in their life 
practice, and while in India by contrast so many have to work so hard to just 
exist are left with little time or energy to lend towards spiritual life. 
 

 

 

 



  


[FairfieldLife] Appropriating Patanjali Yoga

2018-07-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 Spiritually, some of the Eastern saints in coming to the West like Ammachi, 
Karunamayi, Mother Meera and others have reflected their deep respect and 
admiration for Maharishi’s work and the place of Fairfield as a meditating 
community. 
 
 

 Each one of these people in their own way articulate a marvel at what is 
happening in the West generally with the heightening of more people in 
spiritual life.  From their travels they observe how many Westerners are 
actively pursuing spirituality, noting that in ways there is more of spiritual 
cultivation occurring in the West now than possibly even in India. What they 
mark is their seeing more Westerners who may have their time and resources 
devoted to enabling a prioritization of spiritual cultivation in their life 
practice, and while in India by contrast so many have to work so hard to just 
exist are left with little time or energy to lend towards spiritual life.