[FairfieldLife] Re: To the Ass-ended Masters

2005-11-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
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  Kiss my assh !
 
 
 Sorry folks, just slipped out.
 Hope the ass-ended masters have as warped a sense of humor as me.

I guess English might perhaps have more (spoken) homonyms than
many other languages (see, sea, c, etc)...


 
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[FairfieldLife] 2006?

2005-11-17 Thread cardemaister
2006 is COMING!
It will be bleak.  Be prepared.

Why pay sky-high prices today, when an historic FIRE SALE is coming?

FUNDAMENTAL PICTURE: US Dollar, War economy, Housing Bubble and 
Inflation.

Interest rates will continue to increase, unless they can't because 
the US economy is too weak 
Real estate has peaked. 
The US Dollar, after the current rally cycle, will continue its 
secular decline unless things change. 
The real financial costs and consequences of the Iraq War and the War 
on Terror will be realized: It is like focusing on the more than 1500 
dead and not counting the well over 15,000 seriously wounded. The 
future costs to the Veterans administration, military equipment 
replacement, and the higher cost of recruiting is NOT properly 
factored in. 
Corporate earnings will decline, especially as financial engineering 
and other such profits decline due to high interest rates. 
Increased inflation due to a declining US Dollar and the after 
effects of a vastly increased monetary supply. 
Budget deficits and trade deficits will continue at or near record 
levels. 
Bottom line: 2006 will show sluggish growth under 2%, no growth or 
perhaps even an outright  recession!

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: :propagandizing the NY Times- David Lynch Article- link attached

2005-11-17 Thread Peter



All in all, though, the NYT's article is quite  good. And the modification of the article in the GGN is just typical  TMO bullshit.bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote: It's the headline in Global Good News that's misleading. The article  itself is  clearly a report ABOUT the NYT article. That's quite different. Of  course they've mentioned the good bits and omitted the so-so bits. There's  nothing wrong in that.  But the headline shouldn't have been chosen to  make  it appear that it was a reprinted article from the NY Times. Perhaps  this was  just incompetence rather than a deliberate attempt to mislead, since the  article itself clearly indicates that it is
 GGN's report about the NYT article, not  the article itself.  *Nevertheless, I don't like this stuff at all, because it is not useful for the TMO. Everybody who read the NYT article, a much larger audience than GGN, saw that there were problems, like the student who backed off because of the too-high instruction fee for  TM. So what this amounts too is one TMer telling the rest of the choir that everything is coming up roses, but it ain't. There are TMers who read GGN and won't go to the NYT article, and may think that it accurately reflects the article -- this head in the sand approach can't be useful, and I doubt if the NYT editors like this stuff, either, because it amounts to altering the article to fit an agenda. If you're going to have a NYT headline, you should accurately reflect the content, or at least have a hot link to the article:
 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/14/giving/14koppel.htmlBob Brigantehttp://geocities.com/bbrigante  FROM GLOBAL GOOD NEWS Earth's future peacemakers just need a little TM by Lily Koppel The New York Times Translate This Article 14 November 2005 On 14 November 2005 The New York Times reported: Filmmaker David  Lynch is raising money to make the Transcendental Meditation Programme  available to students from first grade through college. New York Times  reporter Lily Koppel said that Lynch wants to make the simple mental  technique 'a standard in every student's curriculum'. It is a joy for Global Good  News service to feature this news, which indicates the success of the life- supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to bring fulfilment to the field  of world-peace.  Although often described as
 'notoriously reclusive', Lynch has stepped into  the public spotlight by founding the David Lynch Foundation for  Consciousness-Based Education and has embarked on a speaking tour to  universities on the East and West Coasts. His goal is clear: 'I really think it will  change the world,' Lynch was quoted as saying.  The article said that the Lynch Foundation currently has assets of about  $410,000. To date seven schools have each been awarded $25,000 in seed  money to begin programmes using the TM Technique. Two of the charter  schools discussed their programmes with the New York Times reporter.  Dr George H. Rutherford, principal of the Ideal Academy Public Charter  School, an elementary and middle school in Washington, DC, said of Lynch,  'He is going to revolutionize education in America.'  Dr Rutherford said that while other foundations tend to
 focus on providing  learning tools (such as computers) to students, the Transcendental Meditation  Programme helps develop the students themselves. 'TM helps to reduce the  stress that creates problems,' he was quoted as saying.  Researchers at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa, will  measure the effects of the meditation programme on students.  A second school to receive a $25,000 grant from the Lynch Foundation was  the Nataki Talibah Schoolhouse of Detroit, a public charter school, which  previously received TM financing from the DaimlerChrysler Corporation Fund  and the General Motors Foundation.  According to the article, Nataki seventh- and eighth-grade students who  worked as a non-meditating control group in a 2002 study, tracking the  'social-emotional competencies' of the meditating students, now want to 
 experience what their peers had.  In addition, Koppel reported, the Lynch Foundation is partnering with other  philanthropists to grant another $25,000 each to the University of Michigan,  Yale, Emerson College and other colleges to help teach students TM. The  foundation is also partnering to support an American University study on TM  and college students.   Every day Global Good News documents the rise of a better quality of life  dawning in the world and highlights the need for introducing Natural Law  based—Total Knowledge based—programmes to bring the support of Nature  to every individual, raise the quality of life of every society, and create a  lasting state of world peace.  Copyright © 2005 Global Good News(sm) Service.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"   wrote:
   Jeez, so much for their credibility. Really, they don't need to do   this 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread Peter



I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos in this link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?tanhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "tanhlnx"  wrote:http://www.humanityinunity.org/utility/showArticle/?objectID=601--- End forwarded message --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread Peter



Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  focused, watch out!Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:  Rick Archer wrote:I wanted to comment to the person on FFL that said this was   about  opening  the crown chakra.  I don't believe this is the case.   I think themeditation prior to the diksha does that.  The 'diksha  giver', I   believe,  only pours God Energy into the
 already opened  crown.   That would depend on the individual.  Some people (particularly former   meditators) may already have the crown chakra open.  However I am speaking from what I know about giving shaktipat and not what the group   in question does.- BhairituThis is the second time I have read about energy being poured *in* to an opened crown. My experience with this has always been the opposite, and outwards, as if a fountain of golden light energy is pouring out of the crown of my head, accompanied by strong bliss. Sort of like a geyser. Radiation vs inundation.   Yes, but we're talking about someone who
 hasn't been sitting on their butt meditating for years like you. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado





on 11/17/05 6:06 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos in this link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?

Plus she retains close ties with her pedophile guru (Sai Baba).






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[FairfieldLife] Fwd:Oregan Newspaper responded with new article

2005-11-17 Thread Ron F

 Clearing up facts about Transcendental Meditation
 Guest Commentary
 By Bob Roth 
 November 17, 2005
 I appreciate serious, informed debate over new ideas and concepts. In that
 light, I offer the following facts in response to your editorial Thursday
 (“Meditation movement lacks proper credentials,” ODE Nov. 10).
 Fact: The National Institutes of Health has granted $20 million to study the
 health benefits of Transcendental Meditation — in particular, benefits for
 reducing heart disease, hypertension and the effects of a stroke. This
 research has been published in leading, peer-reviewed scientific journals.
 The studies have been conducted by the NIH-funded Center for Natural
 Medicine and Prevention at Maharishi University of Management as well as by
 more than a dozen other independent universities and health centers,
 including Cedars-Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles and the West Oakland Health
 Center in Oakland, Calif.
 Fact: Three hundred students at American University in Washington, D.C., are
 now taking part in a two-year study by the AU Psychology Department on the
 effects of TM on brain, behavior and health. Similar studies are now under
 way on the effects of TM on ADHD, high blood pressure, grades and overall
 academic achievement, anxiety and depression, and substance abuse at middle
 schools, high schools and universities around the country.
 Fact: Research on the effects of collective Transcendental Meditation
 practice has been published in several peer-reviewed journals, including the
 Journal of Conflict Resolution, Social Indicators Research and the Journal
 of Mind and Behavior.
 Fact: There is no scientific evidence to suggest that all meditation
 practices are the same. In fact, over the past 30 years, there have been
 several meta-analyses distinguishing the effects of TM from other techniques
  including studies published in the American Psychologist, the Journal of
 Clinical Psychology and the Journal of Social Behaviour and Personality.
 Fact: The course fee to learn Transcendental Meditation is about the same as
 the cost of a 3-unit course at most universities. However, the TM course is
 not just one semester but includes personal instruction from a qualified TM
 instructor as well as a lifetime of follow-up meditation instruction at
 thousands of meditation centers around the United States and the world. The
 Lynch Foundation is providing full scholarships to students at schools,
 colleges and universities throughout the country.
 Fact: Transcendental Meditation is not a religion. It is taught and
 practiced by people (and clergy) of all religions — and to people with no
 religious beliefs. Well before scientists began to explore the effects of TM
  a judge in New Jersey in 1979 concluded there were religious elements to
 the teaching of TM. However, as we all know, there is a long tradition in
 the American judicial system (see civil rights in the south), where
 decisions are overturned with new evidence. Transcendental Meditation is
 offered to students of all religions in scores of educational institutions
 throughout the United States.
 David Lynch did not come to the University of Oregon to persuade anyone to
 meditate. He came to answer questions about his filmmaking, his creative
 process and his meditation practice. And to offer, if anyone is interested,
 to help provide them with the tools to “dive within.” It was — and is — a
 simple, genuine offer from a brilliant artist and a rare human being.
 Best wishes.
 Bob Roth is the Vice President for the David Lynch Foundation for
 Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace




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[FairfieldLife] Link for new Oregon article- Clearing up facts about TM

2005-11-17 Thread Ron F
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2006?

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 2006 is COMING!
 It will be bleak.  Be prepared.

I recall years ago Maharishi saying something like in the age of 
enlightenment, the minimum acceptable level of consciousness is CC. 
Anyone have the exact quote?

I am paraphrasing, but given all the 'bubbling' these days, I would 
think such a level IS required, in order not to get glued to the 
challenges of this modern world.


 Why pay sky-high prices today, when an historic FIRE SALE is 
coming?
 
 FUNDAMENTAL PICTURE: US Dollar, War economy, Housing Bubble and 
 Inflation.
 
 Interest rates will continue to increase, unless they can't 
because 
 the US economy is too weak 
 Real estate has peaked. 
 The US Dollar, after the current rally cycle, will continue its 
 secular decline unless things change. 
 The real financial costs and consequences of the Iraq War and the 
War 
 on Terror will be realized: It is like focusing on the more than 
1500 
 dead and not counting the well over 15,000 seriously wounded. The 
 future costs to the Veterans administration, military equipment 
 replacement, and the higher cost of recruiting is NOT properly 
 factored in. 
 Corporate earnings will decline, especially as financial 
engineering 
 and other such profits decline due to high interest rates. 
 Increased inflation due to a declining US Dollar and the after 
 effects of a vastly increased monetary supply. 
 Budget deficits and trade deficits will continue at or near record 
 levels. 
 Bottom line: 2006 will show sluggish growth under 2%, no growth or 
 perhaps even an outright  recession!
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos in 
this link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?

Indian Oprah.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of 
spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  focused, 
watch out!
 
Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore not 'using' 
it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious about your 
thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being 
oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.

Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. Though 
I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self is a 
monumental task, tenacious little bastard...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos in 
 this link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?
 
 Indian Oprah.

No offense meant to Oprah, she rocks- I meant that this one operates 
on the level of charisma and personality, vs wisdom. Her chelas look 
drained also.

  






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[FairfieldLife] Truncating?

2005-11-17 Thread cardemaister
As I told before, I like this site quite a lot

http://www.rainbowbody.net/HeartMind/Yogasutra.htm#translation

But it's kinda amusing how translators of YS remove the parts
they don't like from the suutras. Like this: 

III. 38 bandha-karana-saithilyat prachara-samvedanach cha chittasya 

[The whole suutra as it appears in Taimni, goes like this:
bandha-kaaraNa-shaithilyaat pracaara-saMvedanaac ca 
cittasya *para-shariiraaveshaH*. It wouldn't be a complete
clause without the last compound, IMO. In principle the genitive
attribute cittasya might refer to the previous suutra, but 
it wouldn't seem to be grammatical in this case.]

Thus by loosening (saithilyat) the bonds (bandhas) of the causes 
(karana) of ignorance because of the coming forth (prachara) of 
knowledge (samvedanat), consciousness of self and of others 
(chittasya) come forth.

Commentary: It is from this sutra that many interpret Patanjali as 
saying that this process pertains to the way of entering and 
controlling the consciousness and body of other beings, but here he 
is simply saying that as one understands how to loosen one's own 
bondage unraveling its causes, one also instantly understands the 
causes of bondage operating in others, and thus one is able to help 
direct them toward liberation if favorable karmic opportunities 
arise. Here simply being in the presence of a highly realized being 
is often enough to directly assimilate that state. 

Here bandha refers to a gate process which can either prevent 
something from entering or to hold something that may wander off in 
distraction inside or redirected. Here it is used in the former 
sense, to let something in. 

-

Thus, the translation and commentary are worthless, IMO.
But I guess the translator has found the idea of moving (aavesha:
entrance) ones mind or consciousness or whatever (citta) into the 
body (shariira) of someone else (para), as Shankara did according
to Shankara-dig-vijaya, rather disgusting, or stuff...








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread Peter



I think this building up of "spiritual" capital  has to do with the nature of the TM technique. It's working at such a  foundational level of being that the mind/personality can not see or  understand what is happening for the most part. Then TM'ers get  involved with practices that focus this spiritual reserve and they have  amazing results. Like Amber Terrel (aka Karen) who was a super  on-the-program Gov for 25 years with modest experiences getting  involved with Gangaji and after the first meeting with her..POW!...into  Self Realization. I noticed this effect some time ago in Fairfield when  I joinned the Liberal Catholic Church rum by all Govs and Siddhas. The  church services were incredibly powerful as all this abstract pure  consciousness was intentionally focused in devotion to God. The room  would just glow in golden light and such pure love. Incredible.jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote: Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  focused, watch out! Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore not 'using' it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious about your thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. Though I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self is a monumental task, tenacious little bastard... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home
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[FairfieldLife] Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Peter writes:
I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos in
this link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?

Tom T:
I had the opportunity to visit Sai Ma in Chicago about 3 years ago.
When 6 different people invited me, I knew it was a cosmic invitation.
The facility we were in was also hosting a 1958 Class reunion right
next door with those thin partitions. The rock and roll music was very
loud so we ended up doing some chanting and dancing cause there was no
way you could hear anything she would have said with the rock and roll
going on in the next partition. When the DJ finally took a break she
began her discourse/sermon/teaching. After she had been talking about
2 minutes she laid out a Mahavakya and I laughed hysterically. Those
who live in FF know me by my laughter even when they don't know me
personally. Sai Ma turned to her right, as my wife and I were seated
in the front row far right corner, and stared very intensely and I of
course stared right back. After about a minute of staring she turned
back to the audience (maybe 100 or so) and announced He Knows. The
rest of her talk went the same way. She would talk and about every
minute or two I would laugh and she would say He Knows. This went on
for about 30 minutes and after a while the audience began to laugh at
the same Mahavakyas as I did. For me it was a very interesting
validation of my experience and understanding. She seemed to genuinely
enjoy the laughter and would smile every time I laughed. What that
meant for her I have no idea but I felt totally validated. The next
day the Chicago Times had a story about the gathering, her and the
weekend intensive. There were two pictures with the article. One was a
1 inch by 2 inch picture of Chalanda Sai Ma and the other was and 8 by
10 of Cindy and I plus two other attendees. Of course I was mostly in
the center. I thought that was also very funny. When I left the Friday
night gathering one of the devotees wanted to know if I was staying
for the intensive and I responded that I had gotten all I needed and I
had repaid her validation with my laughter. The devotee couldn't
understand why I wasn't staying. I have found out that I don't have to
follow anything other than my own laughter and the laughter seemed to
think she was very awake and very funny. I have also found that most
of the other teachers I run into tell me the same kind of jokes that
most of the audience doesn't get. Tom






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
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 I think this building up of spiritual capital  has to do with 
the nature of the TM technique. It's working at such a  foundational 
level of being that the mind/personality can not see or  understand 
what is happening for the most part. Then TM'ers get  involved with 
practices that focus this spiritual reserve and they have  amazing 
results. Like Amber Terrel (aka Karen) who was a super  on-the-
program Gov for 25 years with modest experiences getting  involved 
with Gangaji and after the first meeting with her..POW!...into  Self 
Realization. I noticed this effect some time ago in Fairfield when  
I joinned the Liberal Catholic Church rum by all Govs and Siddhas. 
The  church services were incredibly powerful as all this abstract 
pure  consciousness was intentionally focused in devotion to God. 
The room  would just glow in golden light and such pure love. 
Incredible.

Well put. Thanks!
 
 jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  
 wrote:
 
  Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of 
 spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  
focused, 
 watch out!
  
 Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore 
not 'using' 
 it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious about 
your 
 thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being 
 oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.
 
 Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. 
Though 
 I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self is 
a 
 monumental task, tenacious little bastard...
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2006?

2005-11-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/17/05 8:42 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 2006 is COMING!
 It will be bleak.  Be prepared.
 
 I recall years ago Maharishi saying something like in the age of
 enlightenment, the minimum acceptable level of consciousness is CC.
 Anyone have the exact quote?
 
 I am paraphrasing, but given all the 'bubbling' these days, I would
 think such a level IS required, in order not to get glued to the
 challenges of this modern world.

At Poland Spring he talked a lot about survival of the fittest and kept
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/17/05 8:43 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos in
 this link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?
 
 Indian Oprah.

Oprah's got shakti.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread Peter



Thanks Tom. I was looking for someone's personal  experience. I knew she had to have more than just waking state  personality driving her.tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Peter writes:I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos inthis link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?Tom T:I had the opportunity to visit Sai Ma in Chicago about 3 years ago.When 6 different people invited me, I knew it was a cosmic invitation.The facility we were in was also hosting a 1958 Class reunion rightnext door with those thin partitions. The rock and roll music was veryloud so we ended up doing some chanting and dancing cause there was noway you could hear anything she would have said with the rock and rollgoing on in the
 next partition. When the DJ finally took a break shebegan her discourse/sermon/teaching. After she had been talking about2 minutes she laid out a Mahavakya and I laughed hysterically. Thosewho live in FF know me by my laughter even when they don't know mepersonally. Sai Ma turned to her right, as my wife and I were seatedin the front row far right corner, and stared very intensely and I ofcourse stared right back. After about a minute of staring she turnedback to the audience (maybe 100 or so) and announced "He Knows". Therest of her talk went the same way. She would talk and about everyminute or two I would laugh and she would say "He Knows". This went onfor about 30 minutes and after a while the audience began to laugh atthe same Mahavakyas as I did. For me it was a very interestingvalidation of my experience and understanding. She seemed to genuinelyenjoy the laughter and would smile every time I laughed. What thatmeant for
 her I have no idea but I felt totally validated. The nextday the Chicago Times had a story about the gathering, her and theweekend intensive. There were two pictures with the article. One was a1 inch by 2 inch picture of Chalanda Sai Ma and the other was and 8 by10 of Cindy and I plus two other attendees. Of course I was mostly inthe center. I thought that was also very funny. When I left the Fridaynight gathering one of the devotees wanted to know if I was stayingfor the intensive and I responded that I had gotten all I needed and Ihad repaid her validation with my laughter. The devotee couldn'tunderstand why I wasn't staying. I have found out that I don't have tofollow anything other than my own laughter and the laughter seemed tothink she was very awake and very funny. I have also found that mostof the other teachers I run into tell me the same kind of jokes thatmost of the audience doesn't get.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: To the Ass-ended Masters

2005-11-17 Thread sparaig
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
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   Kiss my assh !
  
  
  Sorry folks, just slipped out.
  Hope the ass-ended masters have as warped a sense of humor as me.
 
 I guess English might perhaps have more (spoken) homonyms than
 many other languages (see, sea, c, etc)...

Nyah, plenty of languages have more, I think.

Consider the number of ways the particle (word ending) to 
(pronounced toe) can be used in Japanese.

For standard words, there's hana for nose and hana 
for flower. Some words have a different tonal value, but many do 
not.

And lets not forget Chinese...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of 
 spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  
focused, 
 watch out!
  
 Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore 
not 'using' 
 it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious about 
your 
 thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being 
 oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.
 
 Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. 
Though 
 I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self is 
a 
 monumental task, tenacious little bastard...


The monkey isn't drunk, but hungry; the self isn't slaughtered, but 
capitalized...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread sparaig
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wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of 
 spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  
focused, 
 watch out!
  
 Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore 
not 'using' 
 it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious about 
your 
 thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being 
 oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.
 
 Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. 
Though 
 I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self is 
a 
 monumental task, tenacious little bastard...


The monkey isn't drunk, but hungry; the self isn't slaughtered, but 
capitalized...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2006?

2005-11-17 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 11/17/05 8:42 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
  2006 is COMING!
  It will be bleak.  Be prepared.
  
  I recall years ago Maharishi saying something like in the age of
  enlightenment, the minimum acceptable level of consciousness is CC.
  Anyone have the exact quote?
  
  I am paraphrasing, but given all the 'bubbling' these days, I would
  think such a level IS required, in order not to get glued to the
  challenges of this modern world.
 
 At Poland Spring he talked a lot about survival of the fittest and
kept
 saying that we had to be fittest in order to survive.

Don't let them fool ya,
Or even try to school ya! Oh, no!
We've got a mind of our own,
So go to hell if what you're thinking is not right!
Love would never leave us alone,
A-yin the darkness there must come out to light.

Could you be loved and be loved?
Could you be loved, wo now! - and be loved?

The road of life is rocky and you may stumble too,
So while you point your fingers someone else is judging you
Love your brotherman!
(Could you be - could you be - could you be loved?
Could you be - could you be loved?
Could you be - could you be - could you be loved?
Could you be - could you be loved?)

Don't let them change ya, oh! -
Or even rearrange ya! Oh, no!
We've got a life to live.
They say: only - only -
only the fittest of the fittest shall survive -
Stay alive! Eh!






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread Peter



You find the self that gets capitalized and I'll spank the monkey.sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter   wrote:   Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of  spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  focused,  watch out!   Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore not 'using'  it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious about your  thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being  oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.  Possibly they hold on
 to the stories of enlightenment too much. Though  I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self is a  monumental task, tenacious little bastard...The monkey isn't drunk, but hungry; the self isn't slaughtered, but capitalized... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread sparaig
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 You find the self that gets capitalized and I'll spank the monkey.

Your fantasy, not mine...


 
 sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  
  wrote:
  
   Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of 
  spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  
 focused, 
  watch out!
   
  Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore 
 not 'using' 
  it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious about 
 your 
  thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being 
  oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.
  
  Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. 
 Though 
  I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self 
is 
 a 
  monumental task, tenacious little bastard...
 
 
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 capitalized...
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of 
  spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  
 focused, 
  watch out!
   
  Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore 
 not 'using' 
  it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious 
about 
 your 
  thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being 
  oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.
  
  Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. 
 Though 
  I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self 
is 
 a 
  monumental task, tenacious little bastard...
 
 
 The monkey isn't drunk, but hungry; the self isn't slaughtered, 
but 
 capitalized...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
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 Thanks Tom. I was looking for someone's personal  experience. I knew 
she had to have more than just waking state  personality driving her.

Yeah, but she still looks like a seeker to me.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha report from Texas

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 You find the self that gets capitalized and I'll spank the monkey.

I thought you were against capital punishment? ;)
 
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FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin  
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  
  wrote:
  
   Good observation. TMer's have built-up such a huge  reserve of 
  spiritual capital that they are oblivious too. When it gets  
 focused, 
  watch out!
   
  Why do you think they are oblivious to it, and therefore 
 not 'using' 
  it? Possibly because it accumulates so gently? Just curious 
about 
 your 
  thoughts on this. I tend to agree- for many, it is like being 
  oblivious of the volcanic pressure building beneath the surface.
  
  Possibly they hold on to the stories of enlightenment too much. 
 Though 
  I will be the first in line to admit that slaughtering the self 
is 
 a 
  monumental task, tenacious little bastard...
 
 
 The monkey isn't drunk, but hungry; the self isn't slaughtered, 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-17 Thread anonymousff
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 Thanks, Doug. I've had deeksha from the Kalki group
 and am looking to get some from the Chalanda Ma group
 as soon as possible. If I like it, I'll learn how to
 give it myself.   
 

Dear Gull,

Please give us a report!  I'm very interested to see if the dikshas 
are the same.  Chalanda Ma charges $44 to learn how to give it, 
compared to $5500 via the Kalki group.
Thanks!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: :propagandizing the NY Times- David Lynch Article- link attached

2005-11-17 Thread bbrigante
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 All in all, though, the NYT's article is quite  good. And the 
modification of the article in the GGN is just typical  TMO bullshit.
 
**

There was an article in a Canuck paper reporting on the Vipassana 
meditation being linked to brain changes:

http://tinyurl.com/d6rsf

Global Good News seems intent on mixing up TM in this brain change 
thing, even though the original article only talks about TM's 
cardiology benefits:

http://tinyurl.com/83top






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: :propagandizing the NY Times- David Lynch Article- link attached

2005-11-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/17/05 3:46 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 All in all, though, the NYT's article is quite  good. And the
 modification of the article in the GGN is just typical  TMO bullshit.
 
 **
 
 There was an article in a Canuck paper reporting on the Vipassana
 meditation being linked to brain changes:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/d6rsf
 
 Global Good News seems intent on mixing up TM in this brain change
 thing, even though the original article only talks about TM's
 cardiology benefits:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/83top

Right. But let somebody try attributing TM's benefits to their meditation
technique.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Link for new Oregon article- Clearing up facts about TM

2005-11-17 Thread bbrigante
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http://www.dailyemerald.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/11/17/437c59a277
350
*

Bob Roth is a little shaky on the facts, unfortunately:

Fact: The course fee to learn Transcendental Meditation is about 
the same as the cost of a 3-unit course at most universities. 
However, the TM course is not just one semester but includes 
personal instruction from a qualified TM instructor as well as a 
lifetime of follow-up meditation instruction at thousands of 
meditation centers around the United States and the world. The Lynch 
Foundation is providing full scholarships to students at schools, 
colleges and universities throughout the country.

**
All U.S.-resident students who need financial aid to attend school 
(and most schools do not charge $800+ per credit for classes) get it 
from huge state and federal loan and grant programs -- matching 
these comprehensive programs would require billions from the Lynch 
Foundation, and currently they have $410K in the bank, enough to 
fund 164 students, who are almost all inner-city kids at charter 
schools. 

**

Fact: Transcendental Meditation is not a religion. It is taught and 
practiced by people (and clergy) of all religions — and to people 
with no religious beliefs. Well before scientists began to explore 
the effects of TM, a judge in New Jersey in 1979 concluded there 
were religious elements to the teaching of TM. However, as we all 
know, there is a long tradition in the American judicial system (see 
civil rights in the south), where decisions are overturned with new 
evidence. Transcendental Meditation is offered to students of all 
religions in scores of educational institutions throughout the 
United States.

**

Keith Wallace published his doctoral dissertation on TM's 
physiological changes in 1970, so it's hard to see how Roth could 
possibly justify a statement like Well before scientists began to 
explore the effects of TM.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: To the Ass-ended Masters

2005-11-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
   
Kiss my assh !
   
   
   Sorry folks, just slipped out.
   Hope the ass-ended masters have as warped a sense of humor as 
me.
  
  I guess English might perhaps have more (spoken) homonyms than
  many other languages (see, sea, c, etc)...
 
 Nyah, plenty of languages have more, I think.
 
 Consider the number of ways the particle (word ending) to 
 (pronounced toe) can be used in Japanese.

I'm not sure if that's a homonym, in case it's considered
the same particle with several different uses. In my opinion,
homonymity(?) presupposes that the words are of different origin,
but during the development of a language they have, by chance, become 
similar, in English often only in pronunciation, due to the rather
antiquated spelling. (But perhaps only words that are spelled in the 
same manner, are considered homonyms in English??). In Finnish
an interesting(?) example of a homonym is the word kuusi
which means both the number 6, and spruce. That they are
etymologically different words is shown by their inflected
forms sounding different from each other, for instance 
the possessive kuuden (of six), but kuusen (spruce's).


 
 For standard words, there's hana for nose and hana 
 for flower. Some words have a different tonal value, but many do 
 not.
 
 And lets not forget Chinese...

Well, I think Chinese might have lots of *written* 
homonyms (hmm...), but strictly speaking, as melodic
accent is, I believe, a so called suprasegmental phoneme
in Chinese, for instance the variations of the word 'ma'
pronounced with four(?) different melodic accents
are not homonyms, because the variation in melodic accent
is accompanied by difference in meaning, which in turn
means that the difference is equivalent to the difference 
in English between, say, 'key' and 'pee', or 'will' and 'well',
that form so called minimal pairs, which in turn is a proof
that , in this case, 'k' and 'p' are different phonemes as well
as 'i' and 'e', as are the different melodic accents in 
Chinesephew!  :)  








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[FairfieldLife] Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread gds444
Hello All,

Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so ago.

I had an interesting experience while watching this slide show. I'd
love feedback.

http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm

The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net

I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's experience and
knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?

Thanks!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so 
ago.
 
 I had an interesting experience while watching this slide show. I'd
 love feedback.
 
 http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm
 
 The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net
 
 I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's experience and
 knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?
 
 Thanks!
 Gary


This slide show is a privilege to watch and listen to! Babaji is one 
of the most beautiful Beings I have seen; the essence of life 
revealed. Truly wonderful.
Thank you for sharing this! 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread gds444
Hi Jim,

That was my exact reaction. Do you think he is/was legitimate or maybe
the slide show is some form of trance? The site does have the deep
trance name in it? I tend to believe that Babaji is/was a pretty
powerful and loving being...

Thanks!
Gary

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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello All,
  
  Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so 
 ago.
  
  I had an interesting experience while watching this slide show. I'd
  love feedback.
  
  http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm
  
  The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net
  
  I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's experience and
  knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?
  
  Thanks!
  Gary
 
 
 This slide show is a privilege to watch and listen to! Babaji is one 
 of the most beautiful Beings I have seen; the essence of life 
 revealed. Truly wonderful.
 Thank you for sharing this!







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jim,
 
 That was my exact reaction. Do you think he is/was legitimate or 
maybe
 the slide show is some form of trance? The site does have the deep
 trance name in it? I tend to believe that Babaji is/was a pretty
 powerful and loving being...
 
 Thanks!
 Gary

Hi Gary, I did not experience a trance while watching it, just 
really enjoyed the beautiful images. It was a peaceful respite in my 
naturally busy day. I did enjoy the chanting too. Yes, he is 
powerful and loving. A mirror, as he said. Very inspiring!

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
   Hello All,
   
   Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years 
or so 
  ago.
   
   I had an interesting experience while watching this slide 
show. I'd
   love feedback.
   
   http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm
   
   The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net
   
   I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's experience and
   knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?
   
   Thanks!
   Gary
  
  
  This slide show is a privilege to watch and listen to! Babaji is 
one 
  of the most beautiful Beings I have seen; the essence of life 
  revealed. Truly wonderful.
  Thank you for sharing this!
 







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 11/17/05 4:24:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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Does 
  nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so 
ago.

No he didn't! we played cards last night. He plays a mean game 
of fish. The guy you're talking about was not "the Babji" He was some other dude 
that other people labeled as Babji





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[FairfieldLife] Meditation meets med school

2005-11-17 Thread bbrigante
http://chronicle.com/colloquy/2005/11/altmed/





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/17/05 4:24:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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 Does  nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or 
so  ago.
 
 
 
 No he didn't! we played cards last night. He plays a mean game  of 
fish. The 
 guy you're talking about was not the Babji He was some other 
dude  that 
 other people labeled as Babji

wears a green eyeshade? Has mastered every card game from Indian 
Poker to 7 card night baseball? *That's* the Babaji dude!!!





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread Peter
Thanks for sharing this Gary. I know very little
regarding his teachings but I always enjoyed the
darshan from  his photographs. 

--- gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed
 ten years or so ago.
 
 I had an interesting experience while watching this
 slide show. I'd
 love feedback.
 
 http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm
 
 The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net
 
 I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's
 experience and
 knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?
 
 Thanks!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Klayman Leaves Shri Ma's Ashram?

2005-11-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Steve wrote: For a variety of
reasons I had decided in July of 2005 to leave the Devi Mandir where 
I had
been with my guru Shree Maa for 6 years.

So, why did Steve leave?  What is this part of the story?   
http://www.shreemaa.org/index.htm

 

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 From: aumm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject:
 Beautiful Reports Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:39:37 -0600
 
 11/8
 
 Hi,
 
 I went to my first and only deeksha program on 8/15/04.  I was on 
a plane to
 India on 8/28.  So much happened to me as a result of that deeksha 
that my
 only debate was should I go to India?  Why go if it all was 
happening before
 my eyes right here in Austin?  Looking back I can both say that I 
am so glad
 that I went (priceless) and there is no need to goit is 
unfolding
 perfectly here.  In the end some of you will be called to go and 
most to
 stay. How will you know?  You will know if you are sitting on a 
plane going
 to India.  It isn't for everyone and there is no other way for 
those end up
 going.
 
 Here are two reports I just read today.  Each is about India.  The 
first is
 from Steve Klayman who just returned and will be giving deeksha 
with me on
 Friday:
 
 Dear friends,
 
 As some of you may know I have recently moved back to my house in 
Austin. I
 am glad to be home. I got back sept.16 and promptly left for India 
on sept.
 30. Now I am here to stay. I will tell you my story briefly 
because it is an
 exciting one for me and the many thousands of others. For a 
variety of
 reasons I had decided in July of 2005 to leave the Devi Mandir 
where I had
 been with my guru Shree Maa for 6 years. I had planned to return 
to austin
 by oct. 1. In late july a TM friend and a member of the Devi 
Mandir family,
 Steven Shimer, said to me at his house in Fairfield, 
California, Steve, I
 have made more spiritual progress in the last 3 weeks than I have 
made in
 the last 10 years.  I asked what he was doing and he and Kathy 
Unger, his
 wife told me they were going to Berkeley each week for deeksha. Of 
course I
 asked what was deeksha. He explained to me that some people had 
been to
 India and been trained by two saints, Bhagavan and Amma, to 
transmit the
 Divine energy into peoples crown chakra and that they would begin 
a rapid
 process of enlightenment or awakening. I trusted Steve and Kathy 
completely
 and i went. Each of the first 3 times I went I found it pleasant 
but nothing
 to get excited about. Some people loved it right from the start. I 
went a
 4th time and I thought my socks would get blown right off my feet. 
The bliss
 was intense and I could barely walk or drive. WOW This was 
what they
 were talking about. I decided to stay in the Bay area and really 
check it
 out. Other friends checked it out also. Fantastic was the final 
decision. I
 have had the spiritual experiences I had been reading about for 
decades. And
 I continue to have them daily and they continue to deepen. I had 
given up on
 enlightenment. I knew many spiritual people from many different 
disciplines.
 The one thing they had in common was they talked about 
enlightenment. If
 anybody had it, well.. it certainly was not for the masses. 
Even those
 who did hard sadhana had very little to show for it. Bhagavan and 
Amma are
 avatars whose specialty is enlightenment. They have trained me to 
pass on
 this Divine energy through deeksha. There is no teaching, no 
techniques to
 do, nothing to read. Just come and receive deeksha with an 
attitude of
 gratitude. Bhagavan calls himself a technician. Just as you sit in 
the chair
 and open your mouth for the dentist, so you sit in the chair and 
let the
 person place the Golden energy into your head. Thats it.
 
 
 Namaste, Dr. Steve Klayman
 
 That says it all!  I will point although deeksha is very powerful, 
many like
 Steve went a number of times before they actually felt the depths 
of what
 was happening to them.  I think it happens from the start but 
sometimes the
 nervous system, mind, etc. takes awhile to unwind enough for it to 
be felt.
 That's why I believe it is good to come as much as your inner 
guidance feels
 is apropriate for you. Deeksha is the most powerful energy for 
enlightenment
 that I have ever experienced!
 
 This next report may seem a little far fetched for some but I know 
that it
 isn't.  In India, some of the deekshas they gave us were to talk 
to various
 Beings.  There is so much that I could say but I think she says it 
best in
 the report:
 
 
 
 Dear William,
 
 I hope you are well and I am looking forward to seeing you in 
December.
 
 I have tried to write you a couple of times about this but somehow 
have had
 trouble getting it on paper.
 
 I guess what I would say is that Bhagwan has been very directive 
in my life
 lately.  He doesn't let me off the hook til I do what he tells 
me.  As you

[FairfieldLife] 2012 - Planetary Ascension Year

2005-11-17 Thread Blue Star



From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/  2012 - Planetary Ascension year 2012  A Wisdom Archive on 2012 - Planetary Ascension year 2012  2012 - Planetary Ascension year 2012  2012
 is by many separate sources of wisdom seen as being a portal into what some people call the Golden Age. 2012 marks, according to the The Mayan Calendar, the ending of Time as we know it and as something old die something new will be born. The Mayan perspective of 2012 and the current times we live in is very similar to the view of Kalki and the Golden Age Foundation who is also co-organising the Oneness Festival. The concept of a coming Golden Age is widely recognised among many spiritual authors, spiritual traditions and teachers. "I think that by 2012 you will have people that are enlightened (open, honest, caring, loving, united to the divine) and those that still seek humanity's lower natures (suffering, misery, hate, separation from the divine) but at least the scale may be tipping more toward enlightened."Hermes Trismegistus 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so ago.
 
 I had an interesting experience while watching this slide show. I'd
 love feedback.
 
 http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm
 
 The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net
 
 I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's experience and
 knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?
 
 Thanks!
 Gary

I had a very strong feeling of how beautiful he was which is an
unexpected reaction for a man. There was definitely somthing there
almost like I knew him from somewhere but can't remember where.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji: Makes his contributions yours too

2005-11-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Are you making a general statement about the persistence with which 
we should pursue liberation, or making a judgement about the prior 
postings about this Babaji?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The message(s) this Babaji conveyed are messages resounding both 
throughout
 the universe, from its inception to its culmination, the 
desideratum for
 each and every being transiting from and through its 
expressionless origins
 to their final satiation through this manifest universe and back 
into its
 premanifest origins, and by every saint whose blessed us with 
their profound
 excellence in human evolution.
  The novelty by which any of our subtler dispositions may emerge 
from this
 slide show, his company, the company of saints and other 
spiritually
 progressive beings is all too often met at the entertainment realm 
of most
 of us, the venue through which distance as well as dissociative 
titillation
 are engaged, the realm for matters of little or no value, or the 
place for
 matters of little or no value. The novelty of what he and other 
more
 enlightened souls have to convey is also due to our 
inattentiveness to our
 own human nature, though some recognition of it is reawakened 
through the
 good fortune of their company, part of their 'service to 
humanity'. As this
 is part of our nature as well, all too often neglected throughout 
the whole
 of most everyone's life, it is demonstrative that we are yet to 
become a
 truly human society, in spite of the privilege of being born in 
our species.
  It is the bounden duty of every truly sincere seeker of universal
 magnanimity to bring about this truthful ensconsement in spiritual 
victory
 at the soonest possible time. This could be a simple matter to 
arrive at
 within minutes or seconds if only we'd heed the wisdom of those, 
perhaps
 such as Babaji, who have come before us to show us the way. Just 
talking
 about them and garnering psycho-social titillation from them does 
not
 suffice to embolden our certainty of attaining liberation within 
this very
 life. We must own these qualities with a greater tenacity than we 
pursue our
 careers or prepare breakfast, even at the sacrifice of either. We 
are doing
 a disservice to ourselves, our posterity and the whole of humanity 
by
 choosing any lesser path.
  Saints and enlightened souls by any other name are not so 
extraordinary in
 that they are established in their humanity, our humanity, for 
they have
 achieved and live within constantly the threshold by which 
humanity is
 defined. Earth, as we live it today is still within, though at the 
cusp
 beyond a 'Planet of the Apes', for it should not be a struggle for 
humans to
 live an ethical life, by their, by our own volition and by the 
circumstances
 and values by which the larger society operates, the external 
influences
 affecting each and every person individually.
  As for which 'Babaji' this person was or is, I'm confident he's 
different
 than the Babaji referred to by Yoganandaji.
  Flourishingly,
 
 Dharma Mitra
 DharmaMitra2 AT gmail.com http://gmail.com
 
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  On 11/17/05, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks for sharing this Gary. I know very little
  regarding his teachings but I always enjoyed the
  darshan from his photographs.
 
  --- gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hello All,
  
   Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed
   ten years or so ago.
  
   I had an interesting experience while watching this
   slide show. I'd
   love feedback.
  
   http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm
  
   The main site for info on Babji is 
www.babaji.nethttp://www.babaji.net
  
   I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's
   experience and
   knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?
  
   Thanks!
   Gary
  
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2006?

2005-11-17 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 2006 is COMING!
 It will be bleak.  Be prepared.
 
 Why pay sky-high prices today, when an historic FIRE SALE is 
coming?
 
 FUNDAMENTAL PICTURE: US Dollar, War economy, Housing Bubble and 
 Inflation.
 
 Interest rates will continue to increase, unless they can't 
because 
 the US economy is too weak 
 Real estate has peaked. 
 The US Dollar, after the current rally cycle, will continue its 
 secular decline unless things change. 
 The real financial costs and consequences of the Iraq War and the 
War 
 on Terror will be realized: It is like focusing on the more than 
1500 
 dead and not counting the well over 15,000 seriously wounded. The 
 future costs to the Veterans administration, military equipment 
 replacement, and the higher cost of recruiting is NOT properly 
 factored in. 
 Corporate earnings will decline, especially as financial 
engineering 
 and other such profits decline due to high interest rates. 
 Increased inflation due to a declining US Dollar 


I know.
Those that shall fall, shall fall, but I will rise.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-17 Thread gullible fool

According to their events calendar, you have to take a
one-day intensive before diksha training. There's a
course coming up in Colorado in December and the cost
is $88 for the one-day intensive and $55 for diksha
training. Ten percent discount if you book by November
27th. The $5500 for the 21-day Bhagavan course does
not even get you a single room, you have to share, and
it's maybe $1500 to get there and back.
  
http://www.humanityinunity.org/HIU/Events-Programs/2005Events/Dec2-4CrestoneMT/index.cfm

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 wrote:
 
  
  Thanks, Doug. I've had deeksha from the Kalki
 group
  and am looking to get some from the Chalanda Ma
 group
  as soon as possible. If I like it, I'll learn how
 to
  give it myself.   
  
 
 Dear Gull,
 
 Please give us a report!  I'm very interested to see
 if the dikshas 
 are the same.  Chalanda Ma charges $44 to learn how
 to give it, 
 compared to $5500 via the Kalki group.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chalanda Sai Ma pics - Colorado

2005-11-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis 
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 Peter writes:
 I assume people consider Sai Ma to be Self-Realized? Her photos in
 this link have no shakti at all. What's up wit dat?
 
 Tom T:
 I had the opportunity to visit Sai Ma in Chicago about 3 years ago.
 When 6 different people invited me, I knew it was a cosmic 
invitation.
 The facility we were in was also hosting a 1958 Class reunion right
 next door with those thin partitions. The rock and roll music was 
very
 loud so we ended up doing some chanting and dancing cause there 
was no
 way you could hear anything she would have said with the rock and 
roll
 going on in the next partition. When the DJ finally took a break 
she
 began her discourse/sermon/teaching. After she had been talking 
about
 2 minutes she laid out a Mahavakya and I laughed hysterically. 
Those
 who live in FF know me by my laughter even when they don't know me
 personally. Sai Ma turned to her right, as my wife and I were 
seated
 in the front row far right corner, and stared very intensely and I 
of
 course stared right back. After about a minute of staring she 
turned
 back to the audience (maybe 100 or so) and announced He Knows. 
The
 rest of her talk went the same way. She would talk and about every
 minute or two I would laugh and she would say He Knows. This 
went on
 for about 30 minutes and after a while the audience began to laugh 
at
 the same Mahavakyas as I did. For me it was a very interesting
 validation of my experience and understanding. She seemed to 
genuinely
 enjoy the laughter and would smile every time I laughed. What that
 meant for her I have no idea but I felt totally validated. The next
 day the Chicago Times had a story about the gathering, her and the
 weekend intensive. There were two pictures with the article. One 
was a
 1 inch by 2 inch picture of Chalanda Sai Ma and the other was and 
8 by
 10 of Cindy and I plus two other attendees. Of course I was mostly 
in
 the center. I thought that was also very funny. When I left the 
Friday
 night gathering one of the devotees wanted to know if I was staying
 for the intensive and I responded that I had gotten all I needed 
and I
 had repaid her validation with my laughter. The devotee couldn't
 understand why I wasn't staying. I have found out that I don't 
have to
 follow anything other than my own laughter and the laughter seemed 
to
 think she was very awake and very funny. I have also found that 
most
 of the other teachers I run into tell me the same kind of jokes 
that
 most of the audience doesn't get. Tom


Cool.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji

2005-11-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello All,
  
  Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or 
so 
 ago.
  
  I had an interesting experience while watching this slide show. 
I'd
  love feedback.
  
  http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm
  
I really enjoyed it.  There is no saint without a past and no 
sinner without a future, was one of my favorite quotes.  Did you 
notice something on his palm in one of the pictures?  Not sure if it 
was a sandalwood mark, or a birthmark of some kind.  I read of 
another instance where someone had a distinquishing mark which 
carried over from one lifetime to another and designated his 
participation as part of an old school of world helpers.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji: Make his contributions yours too

2005-11-17 Thread Dharma Mitra



Hello Jim,

A general statement about each of our efforts to arrive at our inevitable desideratum at the soonest possible moment. We are forever grateful to and endebted to truly spiritually evolved people whose charismatic invitations hasten us towards infinite love and universalism. Establishing ourselves in the satya which they have demonstrated, including serving living beings toward the same endeavors and goals is truly the best we can do to return this eternal debt, the only debt we should pass on to posterity.

Flourishingly,Dharma MitraDharmaMitra2 AT gmail.comHelping you Say It With Panache!Because, how you say it can be, and often is, as important as what you want to convey,
and what you have to say is very important to you.
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On 11/17/05, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you making a general statement about the persistence with whichwe should pursue liberation, or making a judgement about the prior
postings about this Babaji?--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The message(s) this Babaji conveyed are messages resounding both
throughout the universe, from its inception to its culmination, thedesideratum for each and every being transiting from and through itsexpressionless origins to their final satiation through this manifest universe and back
into its premanifest origins, and by every saint whose blessed us withtheir profound excellence in human evolution.The novelty by which any of our subtler dispositions may emergefrom this
 slide show, his company, the company of saints and otherspiritually progressive beings is all too often met at the entertainment realmof most of us, the venue through which distance as well as dissociative
titillation are engaged, the realm for matters of little or no value, or theplace for matters of little or no value. The novelty of what he and othermore enlightened souls have to convey is also due to our
inattentiveness to our own human nature, though some recognition of it is reawakenedthrough the good fortune of their company, part of their 'service tohumanity'. As this is part of our nature as well, all too often neglected throughout
the whole of most everyone's life, it is demonstrative that we are yet tobecome a truly human society, in spite of the privilege of being born inour species.It is the bounden duty of every truly sincere seeker of universal
 magnanimity to bring about this truthful ensconsement in spiritualvictory at the soonest possible time. This could be a simple matter toarrive at within minutes or seconds if only we'd heed the wisdom of those,
perhaps such as Babaji, who have come before us to show us the way. Justtalking about them and garnering psycho-social titillation from them doesnot suffice to embolden our certainty of attaining liberation within
this very life. We must own these qualities with a greater tenacity than wepursue our careers or prepare breakfast, even at the sacrifice of either. Weare doing a disservice to ourselves, our posterity and the whole of humanity
by choosing any lesser path.Saints and enlightened souls by any other name are not soextraordinary in that they are established in their humanity, our humanity, forthey have
 achieved and live within constantly the threshold by whichhumanity is defined. Earth, as we live it today is still within, though at thecusp beyond a 'Planet of the Apes', for it should not be a struggle for
humans to live an ethical life, by their, by our own volition and by thecircumstances and values by which the larger society operates, the externalinfluences affecting each and every person individually.
As for which 'Babaji' this person was or is, I'm confident he'sdifferent than the Babaji referred to by Yoganandaji.Flourishingly, Dharma Mitra DharmaMitra2 AT 
gmail.com http://gmail.com Helping you Say It With Panache! Because, how you say it can be, and often is, as important as what you want to convey,
 and what you have to say is very important to you.Copywriting - Editing - Publishing - Publicity http://PROUT-Ananlysis-Synthesis.latest-info.com
On 11/17/05, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Thanks for sharing this Gary. I know very little  regarding his teachings but I always enjoyed the
  darshan from his photographs.   --- gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello All, Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed
   ten years or so ago. I had an interesting experience while watching this   slide show. I'd   love feedback. 
http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm The main site for info on Babji iswww.babaji.net
http://www.babaji.net I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's   experience and   knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation?
 Thanks!   Gary   






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