[FairfieldLife] Re: I AS the body/I As The Soul

2005-11-24 Thread Robert Gimbel
I would tend to disagree, respectfully with the previous description; In that it was said, that there would need to always be some indentification with something for experience to occur. But that too, is an ego presentation: The ego is the hardest thing to conquer, because in enlightenment, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipping what came before I think it can be understood using the concept of dharma. Within the context of waking state there is a foundational dharma of individual responsibility because there is so clearly a

[FairfieldLife] Miracle Vision occurs when-

2005-11-24 Thread Robert Gimbel
The Miracle occurs when; the body is Transcended; And we recognize the soul; Within ourselves first; Then in the Tree, and the rest. We are souls dwelling in the body; And when you recognize that in another; That is when the Healing occurs. Both are healed, as this is the experience of: Unity

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it can be understood using the concept of dharma. Within the context of waking state there is a foundational dharma of individual

[FairfieldLife] Re: no person in Enlightenment?

2005-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Nice. Wow...I find myself agreeing with Adi Da. Go figure. Nice way to start the day... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No person in Enlightenment, nobody there, at home? Not quite correct. Adi Da clarifies the situation, resolving the

[FairfieldLife] Our Generation, Our Life

2005-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Like the recent Dylan docu No Direction Home, this film captures a lot of the schizophrenia of the Sixties, and the contrasts that made it what it was. Good viewing for anyone who was there and anyone who was not but wants to understand it all. It was a very Tantric period -- lots of

[FairfieldLife] The Cosmic Individual (was A Selection from FFL Greatest )

2005-11-24 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom T writes: Alistair Scherer tranlation of Patanjali the last sutras in the book. Sutra 31 Knowledge which has been freed from the veils of impurity is unbounded. Whatever can be known is

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipping what came before I think it can be understood using the concept of dharma. Within the context of waking state there is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] no person in Enlightenment?

2005-11-24 Thread Vaj
On Nov 23, 2005, at 8:29 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: It's all in the CELLS, Dude, so don't say there's nobody there. The body is there and was there all along, and the body performs actions in accord with Pavlovian conditioning. This may include criminal behavior, for which the Enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Bhoja-deva's commentary on the last suutra of Paatañjala-yoga-darshanam

2005-11-24 Thread cardemaister
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Bhoja-deva's commentary on the last suutra of Paata�jala-yoga-darshanam

2005-11-24 Thread Peter
Exactly! --- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really long: **4.34** ºÉ¨ÉÉ{iɦÉÉäMÉÉ{É´ÉMÉDZÉIÉhÉ{ÉÖ¯û¹ÉÉlÉÉÇxÉÉÆ MÉÖhÉÉxÉÉÆ ªÉ |ÉÊiÉ|ÉºÉ´É |ÉÊiɱÉÉä¨ÉºªÉ {ÉÊ®úhÉɨɺªÉ ºÉ¨ÉÉ{iÉÉè Ê´ÉEòÉ®úÉxÉÖnÂù¦É´É, ªÉÊnù ´ÉÉ ÊSÉÊiɶÉHäò´ÉÞÇÊkɺÉÉ°ü{ªÉÊxÉ´ÉÞkÉÉè

Re: [FairfieldLife] no person in Enlightenment?

2005-11-24 Thread Peter
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like the perfect excuse for Adi Da to continue his outrageous behavior. Absolutely. This clear realization and understanding only makes sense in the condition of realization. The understanding alone in the context of waking state can be used as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm more radical; I don't think the term 'enlightenment' should be used at all. It's lost any useful meaning. If one insists on using it, defining it in terms of behavior could be misleading and illusory, because all of the traits you list

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I AS the body/I As The Soul

2005-11-24 Thread Peter
--- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would tend to disagree, respectfully with the previous description; In that it was said, that there would need to always be some indentification with something for experience to occur. But that too, is an ego presentation: The ego is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhoja-deva's commentary on the last suutra of Paatañjala-yoga-darshanam

2005-11-24 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly! I guess I otta refrain from trying to translate it! :/ Vyaasa's comment is only 3 - 4 lines lång. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bhoja-deva's commentary on the last suutra of Paata�jala-yoga-darshanam

2005-11-24 Thread Peter
Actually I wrote that because my browser turned your post into a bunch of E's. --- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly! I guess I otta refrain from trying to translate it! :/ Vyaasa's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhoja-deva's commentary on the last suutra of Paatañjala-yoga-darshanam

2005-11-24 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I wrote that because my browser turned your post into a bunch of E's. Sorry, it didn't. I copied that text from a devanaagarii PDFile. I admit I was a bit mischievous, but my intention was to show how

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Anybody else identify with this? I ask because some on this forum have characterized those of us who have had such experiences and talk about them openly here as somehow presenting ourselves as authorities on or

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip A major part of the difficulty in talking about enlightenment, it seems to me, is that folks-- *especially* you, Barry--don't bother to think through what they're saying. I should have said some folks. Many people

[FairfieldLife] Re: I AS the body/I As The Soul

2005-11-24 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to replace the term, witness with context. The english term witness implies a relationship ala waking state between a subject and experience. As if in enlightenment one watches everything; there is an untouched

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I AS the body/I As The Soul

2005-11-24 Thread Vaj
On Nov 24, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: I mean by the word witnessing this more detached way of observing and working, where the subject is not overwhelmed by the emotion. Can you suggest a better word to describe this mode of functioning? Context is not appropriate here. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: I AS the body/I As The Soul

2005-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to replace the term, witness with context. The english term witness implies a relationship ala waking state between a subject and experience. As if in enlightenment one watches everything; there is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Anybody else identify with this? I ask because some on this forum have characterized those of us who have had such experiences and

[FairfieldLife] Vibrational Medicine Goes Mainstream, sorta

2005-11-24 Thread authfriend
November 24, 2005 What's the Buzz? Sound Therapy By STEPHANIE ROSENBLOOM ...For decades people have relaxed and meditated to soothing sounds, including recordings of waves lapping, desktop waterfalls and wind chimes. Lately a new kind of sound therapy, often called sound healing, has begun to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I AS the body/I As The Soul

2005-11-24 Thread Vaj
On Nov 24, 2005, at 10:27 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to replace the term, witness with context. The english term witness implies a relationship ala waking state between a subject and experience. As if in

[FairfieldLife] Einstein vs Newton

2005-11-24 Thread L B Shriver
Britain The Times November 24, 2005 Newton trounces Einstein in vote on their relative merits By Mark Henderson, Science Correspondent HIS most famous equation, E=mc², is 100 years old, and 2005 has been named Einstein Year in his honour, but Albert Einstein has been trounced in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Anybody else identify with this? I ask because some

[FairfieldLife] ? for Judy

2005-11-24 Thread L B Shriver
Hi Judy, As you may have noticed, my appearances here are somewhat sporadic these days, so forgive me if I am covering old ground, but… When were you last in FF? I believe I remember reading some time ago that you were here in the 80's perhaps. I am suggesting, for the sake of a more

[FairfieldLife] Re: ? for Judy

2005-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Judy, As you may have noticed, my appearances here are somewhat sporadic these days, so forgive me if I am covering old ground, but… When were you last in FF? I believe I remember reading some time ago that

[FairfieldLife] Ashtar on Thanksgiving

2005-11-24 Thread Blue Star
From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/Subject: ASHTAR ON THANKSGIVING "Well, Good Evening!!!"And so it is that you are on the eve, as it were, of another one of what you call the holiday seasons. And so, yes, we do have news for you. It is simply that this year, 2005 in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rays of Sun??

2005-11-24 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas why Bhoja seems to mention rays of sun in

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The concept of the ego/I going away or being somehow replaced by Self/I implies that it's a subtractive process. For me, realization has always been more of an additive process. Nothing of life before

[FairfieldLife] Greenland Thaw

2005-11-24 Thread chandashari
Published on Sunday, November 20, 2005 by the lndependent/UK The Big Thaw: Global Disaster Will Follow If the Ice Cap on Greenland Melts Now scientists say it is vanishing far faster than even they expected. by Geoffrey Lean Greenland's glaciers have begun to race towards the ocean,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Einstein vs Newton

2005-11-24 Thread bbrigante
Both Einstein and Newton mostly wasted their time after their great discoveries, Einstein did almost nothing after 1920 or so, Newton threw all his energy into alchemy. For all practical purposes, Einstein's creative career ended around 1920, the same time he began to attract respectable

Re: [FairfieldLife] no person in Enlightenment?

2005-11-24 Thread Vaj
On Nov 24, 2005, at 8:18 AM, Peter wrote: In true Unity Consciousness, even this karma is resolved. When this occurs, people who still retain karmas from the human world will perceive these yogins to become transparent to the 'eye of flesh'. That's why there are such methods as

[FairfieldLife] Re: ? for Judy

2005-11-24 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Judy, As you may have noticed, my appearances here are somewhat sporadic these days, so forgive me if I am covering old ground,

[FairfieldLife] Re: ? for Judy

2005-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Judy, As you may have noticed, my appearances

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ? for Judy

2005-11-24 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: ? for Judy

2005-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L B Shriver wrote: I am suggesting, for the sake of a more rewarding experience of satsang, that you plan to visit for a week or two sometime in the coming year. Judy replied: Well, thanks for

[FairfieldLife] Re: ? for Judy

2005-11-24 Thread anonymousff
Shemp That's a very funny comment, first time I remember laughing at something you wrote. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick