[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Emotional Healing'

2005-12-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Dec 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, cardemaister wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote:
 
 
  Maybe I read a bad translation!
 
  Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read
  Sanskrit texts from TM POV. Here's yet another tranlation
  for lokaanandaH samaadhi-sukham:
 
  18.
  Translation - Enjoying Samadhi is like enjoying the world.
  Exposition - When established in pure thought and having 
achieved
  self-realization, one knows the conscious void that supports the
  entire world. Subsequent to the knowledge of conscious void that
  manifests and retains the visible world on the support of 
visible
  body, there remains no difference between so-called worldly
  pleasures
  and the delight of samadhi. This is because the basic cause that
  is
  manifested and is experienced in both is one and the same – the
  awakened consciousness.
 
  --
 
  But for that kind of translation I would expect some modifier
  in the suutra like like - iva [ee-vah]:
 
  lokaananda [BTW: loka + aananda] iva samaadhi-sukham
 
  The shiva-sutra was the first major translation I worked on after
  the
  YS.
 
  samaadhi-sukham is the bliss inherent in constant mindfulness of
  knowing-the-Self. Samadhi does not mean meditative absorption but
  refers to mindfulness of the Self in all objects. The word loka
  therefore in this context refers to the multitude of objects
  available in any dimension.
 
  It is said that the following verse from the vijnanabhairava
  clarifies this verse:
 
  One should regard the whole world or his own body as full of the
  delight inherent in the Self. Simultaneously (with his world-
view)
  he
  will find himself full of the highest delight which is simply due
  to
  the soma welling up in in Self.
 
  Kshmereraja in his comment on this verse, rearranges the order
  thusly:
 
  samaadhi-sukham lokaanandaH
 
  It works in both directions: delight of knowing Self in objects
  infuses delight in living beings.
 
 
  Here's yet another translation, from sanskrit.gde.to -site,
  that seems to be erroneous:
 
  1.18 The bliss of the sight is the joy of samadhi.
 
  It's true that the root for 'loka', namely 'lok', means
  'to see, behold', but despite that the noun 'loka' doesn't
  seem to have the meaning 'sight', whereas 'loka' with the
  prefix 'aa' (aaloka) actually has 'sight' amongst its meanings.
 
 I had to rely heavily on enlightened teachers of this tradition in  
 order to be able to translate most of the verses. The entire Trika  
 seems like that.

This reminds me of the same principle, of just staying with the 
light within, and 'feel' whatever it is; whether emotional, 
physical, and just stay with the feeling and bring light or attention 
to it. 
Just seems like any block in the system, is a block in the energy 
system, whether it be emotional, or physical, or whatever;
The solution, is to bring awareness to it, as much as possible;
Eckart Tolle, speaks of this in relation to 'healing the pain body',
as he calls it.
Which means just allowing 'Presence' or just witnessing from a place 
of light, tends to dissolve the heaviness or stuckness..
'Feeling the universal energy flowing through the body;
notice where it may be tight or stuck, and just be with the feeling;
see what images or release comes..
Don't mentalize the process, just keep it on an energy/feeling level.
From my experience, however strong I feel 'presence' or pure 
consciousness, in my awareness, then that's how strong the influence 
of healing feels;
So, the essence is the ability to maintain the 'light within'
And however bright this light within becomes,
That is how healing or all-pervasive it feels to BE.
R.G.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] 13th annual Children's Holiday Benefit Concert

2005-12-12 Thread Peter
Does John Estrin still play guitar?

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 You are cordially invited to the 13th annual
 Children's Holiday  Benefit
 Concert, this coming Friday and Saturday nights,
 December 16  and 17, 8:00
 p.m. at Morning Star Studio. This folk-rock show
 will  feature Jonas
 Magram, Michelle Mook, Greg Wadsworth, Tim Duffy,
 Sarah  Hawthorne, Tim
 Laughrin, Tim Britton, Kevin Farley, and special
 guest  Lee Anne Blackmore.
 
 The evening's music will include several of Jonas'
 original songs,
 including Pledge to Our Love, a song written for his
 wife Sandy,  Jake's
 Song, about a father's eternal love for his child,
 Tea  Drinkin‚ Man, a
 rousing country tribute to the benefits of tea, and
 I  Want to Be Like You,
 Glory Glory, I Am, Dancing in the Light, and  Mother
 Take Us There, all
 songs celebrating life on the spiritual  path. Other
 favorites will include
 Long Black Veil (the Band),  Freedom (Richie
 Havens), You Raise Me Up (Josh
 Groban), and Love Is a  Rose (Linda Ronstadt), among
 others.
 
 All proceeds from this year's show will benefit the
 Jefferson County
 Resource Center, the Ottumwa Women's Crisis Center,
 and Airline
 Ambassadors. Tickets are just $7 for adults and $5
 for students and  will
 be available at the door.
 
 Please feel free to forward this email to anyone you
 think might be
 interested in this evening of great fun and great
 music, all for a  great
 cause. Thank you.
 
 We sincerely hope to see you there.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Emotional Healing'

2005-12-12 Thread Vaj


On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:02 AM, Robert Gimbel wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Dec 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, cardemaister wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote:   Maybe I read a bad translation!  Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read Sanskrit texts from TM POV. Here's yet another tranlation for "lokaanandaH samaadhi-sukham":  18. Translation - Enjoying Samadhi is like enjoying the world. Exposition - When established in pure thought and having  achieved self-realization, one knows the conscious void that supports the entire world. Subsequent to the knowledge of conscious void that manifests and retains the visible world on the support of  visible body, there remains no difference between so-called worldly pleasures and the delight of samadhi. This is because the basic cause that is manifested and is experienced in both is one and the same – the awakened consciousness.  --  But for that kind of translation I would expect some modifier in the suutra like "like" - "iva" [ee-vah]:  lokaananda [BTW: loka + aananda] iva samaadhi-sukham  The shiva-sutra was the first major translation I worked on after the YS.  samaadhi-sukham is the bliss inherent in constant mindfulness of knowing-the-Self. Samadhi does not mean meditative absorption but refers to mindfulness of the Self in all objects. The word loka therefore in this context refers to the multitude of "objects" available in any dimension.  It is said that the following verse from the vijnanabhairava clarifies this verse:  "One should regard the whole world or his own body as full of the delight inherent in the Self. Simultaneously (with his world- view) he will find himself full of the highest delight which is simply due to the soma welling up in in Self."  Kshmereraja in his comment on this verse, rearranges the order thusly:  samaadhi-sukham lokaanandaH  It works in both directions: delight of knowing Self in objects infuses delight in living beings.   Here's yet another translation, from sanskrit.gde.to -site, that seems to be erroneous:  1.18 The bliss of the sight is the joy of samadhi.  It's true that the root for 'loka', namely 'lok', means 'to see, behold', but despite that the noun 'loka' doesn't seem to have the meaning 'sight', whereas 'loka' with the prefix 'aa' (aaloka) actually has 'sight' amongst its meanings.  I had to rely heavily on enlightened teachers of this tradition in   order to be able to translate most of the verses. The entire Trika   seems like that.  This reminds me of the same principle, of just staying "with the  light" within, and 'feel' whatever it is; whether emotional,  physical, and just stay with the feeling and bring light or attention  to it.  Just seems like any block in the system, is a block in the energy  system, whether it be emotional, or physical, or whatever; The solution, is to bring awareness to it, as much as possible; Eckart Tolle, speaks of this in relation to 'healing the pain body', as he calls it. Which means just allowing 'Presence' or just witnessing from a place  of light, tends to dissolve the heaviness or stuckness.. 'Feeling the universal energy flowing through the body; notice where it may be tight or stuck, and just be with the feeling; see what images or release comes.. Don't mentalize the process, just keep it on an energy/feeling level. From my experience, however strong I feel 'presence' or pure  consciousness, in my awareness, then that's how strong the influence  of healing feels; So, the essence is the ability to maintain the 'light within' And however bright this light within becomes, That is how healing or all-pervasive it feels to BE. R.G. For me it highlights how and why a Master in Unity can transmit that state to others--all objects are reflections in the mirror of his or her consciousness. It's spontaneously obvious how to get the ripe student to share in that experience. If the student can maintain what the teacher transmits, they are enlightened in an instant. If not, they fall out of this upaya (method) and must rely on one of the other two upayas the Shiva-sutra details.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/12/05 12:00 AM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Wonder how this change has affected the site that
 does its own
 archiving of ffl - Rick?
 
 Still works.
 
 That's another option for the member in the UK, Rick.
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/index.html

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Re: [FairfieldLife] 13th annual Children's Holiday Benefit Concert

2005-12-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/12/05 6:31 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does John Estrin still play guitar?

Yes, although he doesn't have a band, as he did when he was in Bambú




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 13th annual Children's Holiday Benefit Concert

2005-12-12 Thread Peter


--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does John Estrin still play guitar?
 
 Yup - Bambu is getting back together for a new
 year's eve concert
 here.  Jon doesn't have a regular gig going on
 though.

Who are the other band members?


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   The evening's music will include several of
 Jonas'
   original songs,
   including Pledge to Our Love, a song written for
 his
   wife Sandy,  Jake's
   Song, about a father's eternal love for his
 child,
   Tea  Drinkin‚ Man, a
   rousing country tribute to the benefits of tea,
 and
   I  Want to Be Like You,
   Glory Glory, I Am, Dancing in the Light, and 
 Mother
   Take Us There, all
   songs celebrating life on the spiritual  path.
 Other
   favorites will include
   Long Black Veil (the Band),  Freedom (Richie
   Havens), You Raise Me Up (Josh
   Groban), and Love Is a  Rose (Linda Ronstadt),
 among
   others.
   
   All proceeds from this year's show will benefit
 the
   Jefferson County
   Resource Center, the Ottumwa Women's Crisis
 Center,
   and Airline
   Ambassadors. Tickets are just $7 for adults and
 $5
   for students and  will
   be available at the door.
   
   Please feel free to forward this email to anyone
 you
   think might be
   interested in this evening of great fun and
 great
   music, all for a  great
   cause. Thank you.
   
   We sincerely hope to see you there.
   
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fidel Castro and TM / Bob Dylan

2005-12-12 Thread Eustace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:

...
 And, of course, as a result of the works of anti-war, anti-American 
 people like yourself, America pulled out of Vietnam and then the 
 REAL killing and suffering started in SouthEast Asia: more people 
 died in the 2 years following the U.S. pullout than during the 
 entire 14 years of American involvement.

Dear shempmcgurk.

Impossible to argue with you! How many hours a day do you watch FOX?
Never mind, forget it, it doesn't really matter, only a fool would
ever expect to change your political, and historical, views without
looking for root causes, and you are taking good care of that yourself
by meditating regularly. But maybe you would find edifying this
literary analysis I wrote years ago.

Jay Guru Dev,

Eustace

(From http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html)

_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 

LITERARY CRITICISM

IT AIN'T ME, BABE

by Bob Dylan

Go 'way from my window,  
 Leave at your own chosen speed. 
I'm not the one you want, babe,  
 I'm not the one you need.   
You say you're lookin' for someone   
 Who's never weak but always strong, 
To protect you an' defend you
 Whether you are right or wrong, 
  Someone to open each and every door,   

But it ain't me, babe,   
 No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
  It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  

Go lightly from the ledge, babe, 
 Go lightly on the ground.   
I'm not the one you want, babe,  
 I will only let you down.   
You say you're lookin' for someone   
 Who will promise never to part, 
Someone to close his eyes for you,   
 Someone to close his heart, 
  Someone who will die for you an' more, 

But it ain't me, babe,   
 No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
  It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  

Go melt back in the night,   
 Everything inside is made of stone. 
There's nothing in here moving   
 An' anyway I'm not alone.   
You say you're looking for someone   
 Who'll pick you up each time you fall,  
To gather flowers constantly 
 An' to come each time you call, 
  A lover for your life an' nothing more,

But it ain't me, babe,   
 No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
  It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  


IT AIN'T THAT , BABE!

In July 1992, while driving back to Hartford with a friend after the
Tribute to Woody Guthrie concert in Central Park and listening to
Bob Dylan, my companion made some comment about the song It Ain't Me,
Babe. It seems that somehow his remark and the lingering inspiration
from the concert set me thinking, because a few days later I suddenly
came to an startling insight into the meaning of the song's lyrics.

The song has been understood variously as a cynical love song or as
referring to Dylan's relationship with his audience; however, it is
actually a political song. It clearly refers to the war in Vietnam and
to the American flag, which the poet lets go from his window (Go 'way
from my window), subsequently falls on the ledge (Go lightly from
the ledge, babe), and finally to the ground (Go lightly on the
ground); the verse Leave at your own chosen speed is a poetic
description of the swinging motion of the falling flag.

The lines To protect you and defend you/Whether you are right of
wrong refer to actual battle situations and to the then raging dirty
war; the same theme of the unjustness of the war we find again later:
Someone to close his eyes for you, Someone to close his heart (a
rather unusual request coming from a woman, to say the least). The
verses Someone who will die for you and more and Who'll pick you up
each time you fall should be construed literally and not
metaphorically. To come each time you call refers to calls to arms,
not to phone calls. The promise never to part implies court-martial,
not divorce court. Only the flowers in the verse To gather flowers
constantly should be understood metaphorically, as referring to
military medals. Finally, the beginning of the third stanza:
Everything inside is made of stone./There's nothing in here moving
denotes the absence of patriotic sentiments in the heart of the poet,
something, however, shared by draft resisters and others with 

[FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   Yeah, Let's put Saddam back in charge of his wonderful
   country and get on with the human drops from
   helicopters. There are just so, so many delicious ways
   to torture, maim and kill people!
   
  
I thought that Saddam's use of wood chippers to change the minds of
  dissidents was particularly creative and enviromentally sensitive 
 too
  
  
 
 That's stillnot documented, as far as I know.

Ya I know...it's really hard to write stuff down when you're being
ground into little pieces 

JohnY





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread Peter


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 · Abstinence · Advice · Amateurs · Anniversaries ·
 Audio Erotica · 
 BDSM · Big Beautiful Women · By Location ·
 Crossdressing · Divorce · 
 Electro Stimulation · Encounters · Erotic Cartoons ·
 Erotic Fighting 
 · Erotic Stories and Fantasies · Exhibitionism and
 Voyeurism · 
 Female Ejaculation · Fetishes · Fisting · Games ·
 General · 
 Heartbreak · Magazines · Masturbation · Movies and
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 Sex · Porn Stars · Professionals · Role Playing ·
 Romance · Sex Toys 
 · Tantra · Transgendered · Webcams · Weddings 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 12/11/05 3:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't know that you want to aquiesce in advance,
  without any qualification, to imposing restrictions
  on posts here, Rick.  That doesn't leave you with
  any wiggle room for negotiation.  How about, If you
  would like to suggest changes in the group
  description or restrictions on posting language,
  I'll be happy to consider them?
  
  Don't make it too clearly a quid pro quo, and don't
  sound as though you're willing to rewrite the
  description and clamp down on members according to
  Yahoo's slightest whims (even if you would be if
  push came to shove).  You're the aggrieved party
  here, and you're willing to make some concessions,
  but not to sell your soul--that's the impression
  you may want to try to convey, it seems to me.
 
 I've already sent it, so we'll see. The concessions I had in mind
were along
 the lines of forbidding profanity. You would have to write f**k or s**t,
 which people usually do anyway.


You have to watch those '**'. Especially in 'f**k'. I remember being
called all sorts of things for doing th*t! (And I thought I was just
being polite and following yahoo guidelines)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gee, I got all naked and greased-up, dimmened the
 lights and put on some cheesy 70's rock music in
 anticipation of FFL new category placement, but I
 can't find the naked pictures! What's an adult group
 for if not for the naked pictures?
 -P.S. What do you look like?
 
Turn off that webcam! ;-)


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  Yea, I have a friend who reads FFL at the Library. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread Eustace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 12/10/05 6:58:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The  trial of Saddam Hussein, which has opened with much 
 international publicity, is a desperate attempt to justify and
 convey some legitimacy on the criminal U.S. invasion and occupation
 of Iraq. It  is an effort to demoralize and divide the resistance 
 to the  occupation. It has nothing to do with justice or truth.
 
 All the  political forces internationally that have opposed the
 15-year-long U.S.  war on Iraq--which has included starvation
 sanctions, bombing and  invasion--should also oppose all the 
 efforts to justify the continued  occupation, including the present
 trial of the former Iraqi leader and  seven members of his
 government.
 
 
 
 
 We love you Sara! With articles like yours and the Cindy  Sheehans,
 Nancy Pelosis John Murthas et al, middle America can take a good
 hard  look at who is lying and telling the truth and who really has
 the best interest  of the country in mind. Poor Saddam! just a good
 'ol boy never meanin' no  harm.


Dear MDixon6569.

I would like to clarify the my main reason of posting IAC's statement
is to expose the members of this group to alternate views, not readily
available through the mainstream US mass media, by making use of the
wonderful electronic medium.

My personal opinion as a historian, in case you are interested, is
that history's verdict will be that Saddam Hussein was a mediocre
Third World leader, not clever enough not to be deceived into
believing that US would help him prevail over Iran and that US didn't
mind if he invaded Kuwait. His and the Baathis party's internal record
was mixed. On the positive side was the nationalization of the mineral
wealth of his country and the use of the profits, at least in part, to
raise the health and education level of his people, as well as the
social position of the women. On the negative side, he was undoubtedly
ruthlessness against his enemies.

But in final analysis by far the the main indictment against him is
that he did not learn from his experience of the Iraq-Iran war and
fell for a second time in the intricate trap we had set for him (named
most appropriately by Middle Easterners Operation Desert Trap),
bringing eventually, through the US invasion, untold suffering to his
people, and necessitating a second heroic anti-colonization struggle.

Cheers,

Eustace





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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread TurquoiseB
  · Abstinence · Advice · Amateurs · Anniversaries ·
  Audio Erotica · 
  BDSM · Big Beautiful Women · By Location ·
  Crossdressing · Divorce · 
  Electro Stimulation · Encounters · Erotic Cartoons ·
  Erotic Fighting 
  · Erotic Stories and Fantasies · Exhibitionism and
  Voyeurism · 
  Female Ejaculation · Fetishes · Fisting · Games ·
  General · 
  Heartbreak · Magazines · Masturbation · Movies and
  Videos · Phone 
  Sex · Porn Stars · Professionals · Role Playing ·
  Romance · Sex Toys 
  · Tantra · Transgendered · Webcams · Weddings 
 
 Oh my!

I was amused by the ones that don't quite seem
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fidel Castro and TM / Bob Dylan

2005-12-12 Thread feste37
Excellent analysis. That this was an anti-war song had never occurred to me 
before, but seems obvious now. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 (From http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html)
 
 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 
 
 LITERARY CRITICISM
 
 IT AIN'T ME, BABE
 
 by Bob Dylan
 
 Go 'way from my window,  
  Leave at your own chosen speed. 
 I'm not the one you want, babe,  
  I'm not the one you need.   
 You say you're lookin' for someone   
  Who's never weak but always strong, 
 To protect you an' defend you
  Whether you are right or wrong, 
   Someone to open each and every door,   
 
 But it ain't me, babe,   
  No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
   It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
 
 Go lightly from the ledge, babe, 
  Go lightly on the ground.   
 I'm not the one you want, babe,  
  I will only let you down.   
 You say you're lookin' for someone   
  Who will promise never to part, 
 Someone to close his eyes for you,   
  Someone to close his heart, 
   Someone who will die for you an' more, 
 
 But it ain't me, babe,   
  No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
   It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
 
 Go melt back in the night,   
  Everything inside is made of stone. 
 There's nothing in here moving   
  An' anyway I'm not alone.   
 You say you're looking for someone   
  Who'll pick you up each time you fall,  
 To gather flowers constantly 
  An' to come each time you call, 
   A lover for your life an' nothing more,
 
 But it ain't me, babe,   
  No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
   It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
 
 
 IT AIN'T THAT , BABE!
 
 In July 1992, while driving back to Hartford with a friend after the
 Tribute to Woody Guthrie concert in Central Park and listening to
 Bob Dylan, my companion made some comment about the song It Ain't Me,
 Babe. It seems that somehow his remark and the lingering inspiration
 from the concert set me thinking, because a few days later I suddenly
 came to an startling insight into the meaning of the song's lyrics.
 
 The song has been understood variously as a cynical love song or as
 referring to Dylan's relationship with his audience; however, it is
 actually a political song. It clearly refers to the war in Vietnam and
 to the American flag, which the poet lets go from his window (Go 'way
 from my window), subsequently falls on the ledge (Go lightly from
 the ledge, babe), and finally to the ground (Go lightly on the
 ground); the verse Leave at your own chosen speed is a poetic
 description of the swinging motion of the falling flag.
 
 The lines To protect you and defend you/Whether you are right of
 wrong refer to actual battle situations and to the then raging dirty
 war; the same theme of the unjustness of the war we find again later:
 Someone to close his eyes for you, Someone to close his heart (a
 rather unusual request coming from a woman, to say the least). The
 verses Someone who will die for you and more and Who'll pick you up
 each time you fall should be construed literally and not
 metaphorically. To come each time you call refers to calls to arms,
 not to phone calls. The promise never to part implies court-martial,
 not divorce court. Only the flowers in the verse To gather flowers
 constantly should be understood metaphorically, as referring to
 military medals. Finally, the beginning of the third stanza:
 Everything inside is made of stone./There's nothing in here moving
 denotes the absence of patriotic sentiments in the heart of the poet,
 something, however, shared by draft resisters and others with similar
 antiwar sentiments (And anyway I'm not alone).
 
 When I realized that It Ain't Me, Babe was an antiwar and not a love
 song, I first imagined that I had rediscovered by myself something
 every young person in America in the sixties had known. But when I
 asked friends, and then when I checked the Dylan bibliography, I
 realized to my surprise that no one before had considered the most
 obvious, once of course you think of it, interpretation: Anthony
 Scaduto thinks that Dylan tells Suze and all women that the search
 for an illusory Hollywood-romantic love, ... has turned him into
 stone (Bob Dylan: An Intimate Biography, 1971, pp.110-111). Robert
 Shelton, the influential columnist whose report on Bob Dylan in the
 New York Times on Sept. 28, 1961 was a significant 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fidel Castro and TM / Bob Dylan

2005-12-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Excellent analysis. That this was an anti-war song had never 
 occurred to me before, but seems obvious now. 

A viewing of Scorcese's No Direction Home and a 
read of Dylan's autobiography might be in order. :-)

One can read almost anything one wants *into* his
songs, but that doesn't mean that *he* intended for
those things to be there. It was a love song then
and it's a love song now, no matter how creatively
one attempts to interpret it otherwise.

It's the oldest problem in creation -- how to tell
the difference between reality and what we project 
onto reality. 


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  
  (From http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html)
  
  _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 
  
  LITERARY CRITICISM
  
  IT AIN'T ME, BABE
  
  by Bob Dylan
  
  Go 'way from my window,  
   Leave at your own chosen speed. 
  I'm not the one you want, babe,  
   I'm not the one you need.   
  You say you're lookin' for someone   
   Who's never weak but always strong, 
  To protect you an' defend you
   Whether you are right or wrong, 
Someone to open each and every door,   
  
  But it ain't me, babe,   
   No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
  
  Go lightly from the ledge, babe, 
   Go lightly on the ground.   
  I'm not the one you want, babe,  
   I will only let you down.   
  You say you're lookin' for someone   
   Who will promise never to part, 
  Someone to close his eyes for you,   
   Someone to close his heart, 
Someone who will die for you an' more, 
  
  But it ain't me, babe,   
   No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
  
  Go melt back in the night,   
   Everything inside is made of stone. 
  There's nothing in here moving   
   An' anyway I'm not alone.   
  You say you're looking for someone   
   Who'll pick you up each time you fall,  
  To gather flowers constantly 
   An' to come each time you call, 
A lover for your life an' nothing more,
  
  But it ain't me, babe,   
   No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
  
  
  IT AIN'T THAT , BABE!
  
  In July 1992, while driving back to Hartford with a friend after 
the
  Tribute to Woody Guthrie concert in Central Park and listening 
to
  Bob Dylan, my companion made some comment about the song It 
Ain't Me,
  Babe. It seems that somehow his remark and the lingering 
inspiration
  from the concert set me thinking, because a few days later I 
suddenly
  came to an startling insight into the meaning of the song's 
lyrics.
  
  The song has been understood variously as a cynical love song or 
as
  referring to Dylan's relationship with his audience; however, it 
is
  actually a political song. It clearly refers to the war in 
Vietnam and
  to the American flag, which the poet lets go from his window 
(Go 'way
  from my window), subsequently falls on the ledge (Go lightly 
from
  the ledge, babe), and finally to the ground (Go lightly on the
  ground); the verse Leave at your own chosen speed is a poetic
  description of the swinging motion of the falling flag.
  
  The lines To protect you and defend you/Whether you are right of
  wrong refer to actual battle situations and to the then raging 
dirty
  war; the same theme of the unjustness of the war we find again 
later:
  Someone to close his eyes for you, Someone to close his heart 
(a
  rather unusual request coming from a woman, to say the least). 
The
  verses Someone who will die for you and more and Who'll pick 
you up
  each time you fall should be construed literally and not
  metaphorically. To come each time you call refers to calls to 
arms,
  not to phone calls. The promise never to part implies court-
martial,
  not divorce court. Only the flowers in the verse To gather 
flowers
  constantly should be understood metaphorically, as referring to
  military medals. Finally, the beginning of the third stanza:
  Everything inside is made of stone./There's nothing in here 
moving
  denotes the absence of patriotic sentiments in the heart of the 
poet,
  something, however, shared by draft resisters and others with 
similar
  antiwar sentiments (And anyway I'm not alone).
  
  When I realized that It Ain't Me, Babe was an antiwar and not 
a love
  

[FairfieldLife] The lines on Sri Swamiji's feet and their significance explained

2005-12-12 Thread hanumanhoffman9
Life History of H.H. Sri Swamiji 164


The following important devotees, Anantarama Bhat, Nagappa Setty, Nagappa, 
Anantaram 
of Vishnu coffee works, Narayana Rao of Mysore press, Ramaswamy, Rama Rao 
(Father of 
Krishna Moorthy), Gowda together went and finalised the deal. They gave an 
initial deposit 
of Rs.2,000/-. Few days later, they raised the rest of the amount totalling 
Rs.9,000/- and 
on Monday, 28/3/1966, registered the land. It was also the auspicious occasion 
of the 
period of Sree Rama Navami. At last the place for the new ashrama was obtained 
but it did 
not have a proper shelter to live in. For the next two months, several devotees 
offered 
voluntary physical labour to clear the site. A number of youngsters and old 
people joined 
hands in working. The devotees residing in the nearby colony of Vidyaranyapuram 
were 
the majority of the volunteer workers. Swamy had taken the trouble in the past 
year or so, 
of organising the events at the house of Mudaliar in Vidyaranyapuram. It paid 
dividends in 
the form of few hundred of true devotees from the area that gave their services 
to Swamy. 
Swamy personally supervised the work by coming once or twice daily to the site. 
He 
normally came by car but when it was not available he walked nearly 6 km in the 
heat of 
summer. Occasionally he came on a horse cart. Whenever he arrived at the site, 
he could 
always see few devotees working. A number of devotees were patiently awaiting 
his arrival 
at the site daily to get his blessings. The footprints One day Swamy was amidst 
a number 
of devotees at the site and was delayed in returning to the ashrama at Kesere. 
It was 
getting late and so he said to the devotees, Please arrange for transport to 
go back to the 
ashrama. A devotee is especially awaiting my arrival there. True to what he 
said, Chinna 
Urs was awaiting the arrival of Swamy. He had some articles in his hand. As 
soon as he 
saw Urs, Swamy asked him, Are the articles OK? They have been prepared as per 
your 
instructions, he replied. In the presence of all the devotees assembled there, 
Swamy took 
out the article. They were a pair of special sandals. They had imprint of ivory 
dust on 
them. Swamy checked the imprints with the plans he had given to Urs. While 
continuing to 
observe the marks, Swamy pointed to the various marks and explained about their 
significance. See these marks, he told them and explained. 1. The three chakras 
on the 
right foot underneath the three toes are different shapes. The letter Bhoo, Vi 
and Sri are 
written on them. They represent the signs of the present of Bhoodevi, Sridevi 
and Lord 
Vishnu(3). 2. Joining the three chakras there is a line in the form of a wave. 
Underneath the 
wave is a star. The wave and the star together represent the energy of the 
Prakriti. 3. Just 
underneath the above two marks, are the signs of two snakes. One of them 
represents the 
symbol of the power of Yoga Siddhas. The other one represents the power of 
the 
Navagrahas. The line of Navagrahas is also known as Vajrarekha. 4. Below 
them, near 
the heel there is an unusual chakra. It is Agastya Chakra. You will not 
understand its 
significance and its benefit even if I tell you. On the left foot, these are 
the signs that are 
present. 1. Underneath the toes there are again three chakras. The one that is 
straight is 
Agastya chakra. Presence of Agastya chakra in both the feet is of rare 
occurrence. They 
represent the powers for uniting and separating. There are some more special 
features but 
it is enough for now. 2. The chakra in the middle is Dattatreya chakra. You 
do not need 
to know its significance. There are two letters A and Shanti. It means 
Akhanda 
Shanti(4). When they are seen as such they give the wrong interpretation of 
Ashanti(5). 
There is another special point to note of this Avatara. Joining the three 
chakras is the line 
of the power of the Prakriti. Below it is two more rekhas, Trishula(6) and 
Velayudha 
rekhas. These are symbols of the Divine Power. Below it there is a special 
Yantra(7). In 
that are situated, Ganesha Khanda, Surya Khanda, Amritasarassu(8), and 
Srichakrabindu. 
These represent the procedure for the Srividya. I should not say anything 
more at this 
stage. At the heel of the left foot there are, Chakram, Triangle and 
Shivalingam. Together 
they represent the main Bija Akshara(9). What else can I say? Swamy 
Abhedananda saw 
these lines on my feet that day and gave his predictions. 

--- Explanations: 3. Bhoodevi is the Mother Earth. Sridevi is Goddess of 
Wealth, 
Lakshmi. 4. Unbroken Peace. 5. No peace. 6. Trident. 7. Diagram. 8. Lake of the 
nectar of 
immortality. 9. The root letter OM


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This Yahoo group contains the complete story from the
beginning . Satyam, or Satyanarayana referred to here was Sri Swamiji's name as 
a child.

[FairfieldLife] 3 day Datta Jayanthi Celebrations in Mysore.

2005-12-12 Thread hanumanhoffman9
Jaya Guru Datta

This link describes the programmes and has a link to available pujas.

http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/festivals/dattajayanti2005/programmes.html

Sri Guru Datta

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[FairfieldLife] Dark Unification [was Re: Fidel Castro and TM / Bob Dylan]

2005-12-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
snipwrote:
 
 ...
  And, of course, as a result of the works of anti-war, anti-
American 
  people like yourself, America pulled out of Vietnam and then the 
  REAL killing and suffering started in SouthEast Asia: more 
people 
  died in the 2 years following the U.S. pullout than during the 
  entire 14 years of American involvement.
 
 Dear shempmcgurk.
 
 Impossible to argue with you! How many hours a day do you watch 
FOX?
 Never mind, forget it, it doesn't really matter, only a fool would
 ever expect to change your political, and historical, views without
 looking for root causes, and you are taking good care of that 
yourself
 by meditating regularly. But maybe you would find edifying this
 literary analysis I wrote years ago.
 
 Jay Guru Dev,
 
 Eustace
 
 (From http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html)
snip _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 
_/ 

Thanks for this brilliant insight- I will have to listen to this 
song again...

Speaking of war, over the weekend I was thinking about war and 9/11 
and Iraq and Vietnam, and the rising consciousness reflected in 
communications, transportation, and market-oriented global 
unification.

A hypothesis began to form in my mind, catalyzed by an earlier FFL 
discussion on the effects of an enlightened person on their 
environment. 

So, if we assume many enlightened and almost enlightened people 
dissolving global boundaries, and moving our Earth and its people in 
the direction of Oneness, we can see that specific rajasic domains 
have moved quickly in that direction, hence the huge interconnected 
growth in computer (voice, video and data) networks, transportation 
networks, and global markets.

That being the case, we are now rushing headlong in the direction of 
more and more unification. However, not everyone's consciousness is 
ready for this unification. Or more precisely, not everyone's 
consciousness is wanting to move towards enlightened unification. 
For those, the alternative is dark unification. 

What do I mean by the phrase, 'dark unification'? The dynamics 
towards global oneness are the same for those wishing dark 
unification- they use the same tools and technology, and bring about 
rapid change the same way. Only their guiding principles are control 
vs. union, force vs. cooperation, and striving for individual 
grandeur vs. sacrifice for the good of all.

It is a fascinating play taking place now on the global stage, one 
in which we all have front row seats, due to near instant 
communication. The question posed as we watch this unfold, is, which 
unity will we experience, Light or Dark?

We can see how efforts towards dark unification are now met with 
increasing resistance, because the overall tendency towards global 
Oneness is putting unprecendented tools into the hands of small 
groups of people, rendering the previous models of mighty armies,  
security forces, and controlled media all but obsolete.

This battle betwen light and dark, enlightenment and ignorance, self 
vs Self will continue for a little while longer, leading to oblivion 
and full unity, either way. 

   






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[FairfieldLife] Datta Jayanthi message

2005-12-12 Thread hanumanhoffman9
SRI DATTA JAYANTHI CELEBRATIONS

Sunday,14/12/97

Photos of Various events of this day

Sri Swamiji conducted Sri Chakra Puja and Ganapati Homa as usual in the 
morning. Then 
Sahasra Kalasa Tailabishekam was performed to Kalagni Shamana Datta in the 
temple of 
the Ashrama. Following the Pavana Homa and Datta Homa were performed. Many 
people 
participated in the Anagha Vratam.

The following message was given by Sri Swamiji.

We are all tiny specks of the Universal Lord - Paramatma. Though He is unseen, 
He is 
invisible. His magnanimity is beyond our comprehension. We have drifted far, 
far away 
from him. No doubt we are precious, being tiny specks of the Supreme Lord. We 
are like 
various precious Ornaments glued to something impure, something undesirable. 
Seeing 
our sorry state, our miserable condition, the merciful Lord came down to uplift 
us, to 
rescue us in the form of Dattatreya, the unique spiritual master of all times. 
He is an 
expert goldsmith. He can remove the dirt and impurities of the ornament, 
without spoiling 
it in any way. He makes it fit for decoration of the Lord. This means he 
purifies and guides 
us properly to rejoin the supreme Lord. 
A capable master and a patient disciple - this is a fine combination. 
Dattatreya is an 
expert spiritual master. He is the perfect master. Less efficient goldsmiths 
spoil the 
ornament. Datta does his job thoroughly well. He is the Guru not only for 
humans, but 
also to celestials and demons. What?! - Guru for even demons? Yes! He slowly 
transforms 
the demons and leads them to the right path. A real Jnani, knower, does not 
boast of 
himself. Whoever makes such an announcement is a cheat. By Guru's grace the 
disciple 
gets salvation in a subtle way, even unknowingly. 
People are attached to worldliness, that is the cause of their misery. Sadguru 
cleanses us 
by making us perform different rituals properly. Contemplate on the divine play 
of Datta. 
Study Jnana Vasishta, which deals with the principle of renunciation.
Datta is the trinity in one - Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva in one form. He directed 
sages to 
perform Pavamana Homa, which removes sins, and bestows peace and plenty.

All the Devotees were enchanted in the musical discourse in the evening. The 
following is 
His message.

I. Datta's protection

Swamiji explained the meaning of Sanskrit Sloka. He recited thus:

His Body is still as He is in ecstasy. However, He moves about daily in 
several subtle forms 
to protect and guide his disciples everywhere. Hence I surrender to Datta, who 
is both, 
moving and unmoving. Datta's only mission is to uplift the disciples. 

Sri Swamiji rendered a song emphasizing the protective power of Datta (Jaya 
janavana 
chitta).

II.
Generally people say that they are fighting for peace, even at the cost of 
life. This is self-
contradictory. Who can a battle cause peace? Our thoughts and words and deeds 
should 
not hurt others, no insult or injury should be caused to others by our 
behavior. Before you 
aim at world peace attempt at inner peace of mind yourself. Then there will be 
world 
peace. What all we do at home generally causes tension and worry. You behave in 
peaceful 
way with you friends and relatives. The way you keep your things, books, 
clothes, utensils 
in your room and home should be neat and proper. This brings in peace of mind 
and 
peace at home. Gradually the peace spreads around. 
Swamiji sang one sloka and one bhajan conveying the above ideas.

III.
Swamiji sang a bhajan of Janardana part of Maharashtra and explained its 
meaning. 
 The saint sings the glory of Rama who is all pervasive. By singing the pious 
qualities of 
God again and again, one acquires such noble traits.


IV.


Swamiji rendered a bhajan and described its significance. 
Before one goes to bed, one must analyze the mistakes committed in the day. 
Seek God's 
pardon with repentance. Do not feel proud of good achievements. Thank God. 
Think of 
God just on getting. People convince themselves for their mistakes. No mistake 
can be 
committed in secrecy, you cannot hide anything wrong. The five elements of 
nature, sun, 
moon, etc. are witnessing your deeds. Even if others point out, some adamant 
people 
don't repent, they do not apologize. This is wrong. Whatever good or bad we do 
- 
everything is recorded by Chitragupta, the celestial accountant of sin and 
merit. You 
cannot deceive him. Some people do many good things, but a single big mistake 
overshadows what all good they have done. Self-analysis enables them to correct 
themselves. 
Early in the morning, more so before sunrise, the mind will be pure and active. 
For 
spiritual practice, music practice or studies this is the most preferable 
period. Gradually 
the mind gets tired with the passage of daytime. Mind is affected by the heat 
and strain of 
the day. Hence, utilize the dawn and early morning daily in a purposeful way. 
Sound sleep 
is very essential for good health. One must go to bed 

[FairfieldLife] Accredited Bliss?

2005-12-12 Thread Emily
Surprised no one has pointed this out yet: yesterday's NY Times Sunday
Magazine was a special issue on The Year in Ideas.  The first
(alphabetically) is Accredited Bliss all about Lynch's T.M. campaign.

http://nytimes.com/pages/magazine/index.html


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
Must have been the first one  that got us in trouble.

Sal


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread gullible fool

 Must have been the first one  that got us in
 trouble.

That may be the real reason the Purusha board reads
FFL.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread jim_flanegin
Is the Purusha board one on Yahoo? Accessible to non-members? (my 
historical attempts at celibacy were pathetic...) 

PS enjoying the one liners, esp Sal's very dry sense of humor...

Thanks

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread gullible fool

 can't find the naked pictures! What's an adult group
 for if not for the naked pictures?

If you look under Photos/FFL Members, you will see
pics of  people in b*ndage. Just a few, as most of
them are l*berated, but it would be enough to raise
yahoo's ire. 

And Heather Graham is showing a bit too much skin in
the Photos/TM People category.
 
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 anticipation of FFL new category placement, but I
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 -P.S. What do you look like?
 
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  Yea, I have a friend who reads FFL at the Library.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fidel Castro and TM / Bob Dylan

2005-12-12 Thread feste37
Still seems to me that Eustace's interpretation is just as valid as yours. It 
makes me engage with an old song in a new way, which is what good 
criticism of any poem or song should do. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Excellent analysis. That this was an anti-war song had never 
  occurred to me before, but seems obvious now. 
 
 A viewing of Scorcese's No Direction Home and a 
 read of Dylan's autobiography might be in order. :-)
 
 One can read almost anything one wants *into* his
 songs, but that doesn't mean that *he* intended for
 those things to be there. It was a love song then
 and it's a love song now, no matter how creatively
 one attempts to interpret it otherwise.
 
 It's the oldest problem in creation -- how to tell
 the difference between reality and what we project 
 onto reality. 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   
   (From http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html)
   
   _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 
   
   LITERARY CRITICISM
   
   IT AIN'T ME, BABE
   
   by Bob Dylan
   
   Go 'way from my window,  
Leave at your own chosen speed. 
   I'm not the one you want, babe,  
I'm not the one you need.   
   You say you're lookin' for someone   
Who's never weak but always strong, 
   To protect you an' defend you
Whether you are right or wrong, 
 Someone to open each and every door,   
   
   But it ain't me, babe,   
No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
 It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
   
   Go lightly from the ledge, babe, 
Go lightly on the ground.   
   I'm not the one you want, babe,  
I will only let you down.   
   You say you're lookin' for someone   
Who will promise never to part, 
   Someone to close his eyes for you,   
Someone to close his heart, 
 Someone who will die for you an' more, 
   
   But it ain't me, babe,   
No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
 It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
   
   Go melt back in the night,   
Everything inside is made of stone. 
   There's nothing in here moving   
An' anyway I'm not alone.   
   You say you're looking for someone   
Who'll pick you up each time you fall,  
   To gather flowers constantly 
An' to come each time you call, 
 A lover for your life an' nothing more,
   
   But it ain't me, babe,   
No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
 It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
   
   
   IT AIN'T THAT , BABE!
   
   In July 1992, while driving back to Hartford with a friend after 
 the
   Tribute to Woody Guthrie concert in Central Park and listening 
 to
   Bob Dylan, my companion made some comment about the song It 
 Ain't Me,
   Babe. It seems that somehow his remark and the lingering 
 inspiration
   from the concert set me thinking, because a few days later I 
 suddenly
   came to an startling insight into the meaning of the song's 
 lyrics.
   
   The song has been understood variously as a cynical love song or 
 as
   referring to Dylan's relationship with his audience; however, it 
 is
   actually a political song. It clearly refers to the war in 
 Vietnam and
   to the American flag, which the poet lets go from his window 
 (Go 'way
   from my window), subsequently falls on the ledge (Go lightly 
 from
   the ledge, babe), and finally to the ground (Go lightly on the
   ground); the verse Leave at your own chosen speed is a poetic
   description of the swinging motion of the falling flag.
   
   The lines To protect you and defend you/Whether you are right of
   wrong refer to actual battle situations and to the then raging 
 dirty
   war; the same theme of the unjustness of the war we find again 
 later:
   Someone to close his eyes for you, Someone to close his heart 
 (a
   rather unusual request coming from a woman, to say the least). 
 The
   verses Someone who will die for you and more and Who'll pick 
 you up
   each time you fall should be construed literally and not
   metaphorically. To come each time you call refers to calls to 
 arms,
   not to phone calls. The promise never to part implies court-
 martial,
   not divorce court. Only the flowers in the verse To gather 
 flowers
   constantly should be understood metaphorically, as referring to
   military medals. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fidel Castro and TM / Bob Dylan

2005-12-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Still seems to me that Eustace's interpretation is just as valid
 as yours. It 
 makes me engage with an old song in a new way, which is what good 
 criticism of any poem or song should do. 

I think you misunderstand. I think it's *OK* to think 
of a song or a poem or a novel or a film any way you
want, and interpret it any way you want. 

But that's a little different from making a statement
that the original author clearly meant it that way. 
In the case of this song, Dylan is on record in several 
places as to what -- and who -- this song was about, and 
her name was not 'Vietnam War.'  :-)

Bowing out of this discussion now, before the crit 
really starts to hit the fan.  :-)

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
   Excellent analysis. That this was an anti-war song had never 
   occurred to me before, but seems obvious now. 
  
  A viewing of Scorcese's No Direction Home and a 
  read of Dylan's autobiography might be in order. :-)
  
  One can read almost anything one wants *into* his
  songs, but that doesn't mean that *he* intended for
  those things to be there. It was a love song then
  and it's a love song now, no matter how creatively
  one attempts to interpret it otherwise.
  
  It's the oldest problem in creation -- how to tell
  the difference between reality and what we project 
  onto reality. 
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   

(From http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html)

_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 
_/ 

LITERARY CRITICISM

IT AIN'T ME, BABE

by Bob Dylan

Go 'way from my window,  
 Leave at your own chosen speed. 
I'm not the one you want, babe,  
 I'm not the one you need.   
You say you're lookin' for someone   
 Who's never weak but always strong, 
To protect you an' defend you
 Whether you are right or wrong, 
  Someone to open each and every door,   

But it ain't me, babe,   
 No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
  It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  

Go lightly from the ledge, babe, 
 Go lightly on the ground.   
I'm not the one you want, babe,  
 I will only let you down.   
You say you're lookin' for someone   
 Who will promise never to part, 
Someone to close his eyes for you,   
 Someone to close his heart, 
  Someone who will die for you an' more, 

But it ain't me, babe,   
 No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
  It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  

Go melt back in the night,   
 Everything inside is made of stone. 
There's nothing in here moving   
 An' anyway I'm not alone.   
You say you're looking for someone   
 Who'll pick you up each time you fall,  
To gather flowers constantly 
 An' to come each time you call, 
  A lover for your life an' nothing more,

But it ain't me, babe,   
 No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
  It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  


IT AIN'T THAT , BABE!

In July 1992, while driving back to Hartford with a friend 
after 
  the
Tribute to Woody Guthrie concert in Central Park and 
listening 
  to
Bob Dylan, my companion made some comment about the song It 
  Ain't Me,
Babe. It seems that somehow his remark and the lingering 
  inspiration
from the concert set me thinking, because a few days later I 
  suddenly
came to an startling insight into the meaning of the song's 
  lyrics.

The song has been understood variously as a cynical love 
song or 
  as
referring to Dylan's relationship with his audience; 
however, it 
  is
actually a political song. It clearly refers to the war in 
  Vietnam and
to the American flag, which the poet lets go from his window 
  (Go 'way
from my window), subsequently falls on the ledge (Go 
lightly 
  from
the ledge, babe), and finally to the ground (Go lightly on 
the
ground); the verse Leave at your own chosen speed is a 
poetic
description of the swinging motion of the falling flag.

The lines To protect you and defend you/Whether you are 
right of
wrong refer to actual battle 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fidel Castro and TM / Bob Dylan

2005-12-12 Thread feste37
Yes, your point is a valid one, and I don't know what Dylan said about this 
song. But I don't always take at face value what authors say their work is 
about, since high-quality work often contains levels of meaning of  
which the author himself was largely unaware. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Still seems to me that Eustace's interpretation is just as valid
  as yours. It 
  makes me engage with an old song in a new way, which is what good 
  criticism of any poem or song should do. 
 
 I think you misunderstand. I think it's *OK* to think 
 of a song or a poem or a novel or a film any way you
 want, and interpret it any way you want. 
 
 But that's a little different from making a statement
 that the original author clearly meant it that way. 
 In the case of this song, Dylan is on record in several 
 places as to what -- and who -- this song was about, and 
 her name was not 'Vietnam War.'  :-)
 
 Bowing out of this discussion now, before the crit 
 really starts to hit the fan.  :-)
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   
Excellent analysis. That this was an anti-war song had never 
occurred to me before, but seems obvious now. 
   
   A viewing of Scorcese's No Direction Home and a 
   read of Dylan's autobiography might be in order. :-)
   
   One can read almost anything one wants *into* his
   songs, but that doesn't mean that *he* intended for
   those things to be there. It was a love song then
   and it's a love song now, no matter how creatively
   one attempts to interpret it otherwise.
   
   It's the oldest problem in creation -- how to tell
   the difference between reality and what we project 
   onto reality. 
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 (From http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html)
 
 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 
 _/ 
 
 LITERARY CRITICISM
 
 IT AIN'T ME, BABE
 
 by Bob Dylan
 
 Go 'way from my window,  
  Leave at your own chosen speed. 
 I'm not the one you want, babe,  
  I'm not the one you need.   
 You say you're lookin' for someone   
  Who's never weak but always strong, 
 To protect you an' defend you
  Whether you are right or wrong, 
   Someone to open each and every door,   
 
 But it ain't me, babe,   
  No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
   It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
 
 Go lightly from the ledge, babe, 
  Go lightly on the ground.   
 I'm not the one you want, babe,  
  I will only let you down.   
 You say you're lookin' for someone   
  Who will promise never to part, 
 Someone to close his eyes for you,   
  Someone to close his heart, 
   Someone who will die for you an' more, 
 
 But it ain't me, babe,   
  No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
   It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
 
 Go melt back in the night,   
  Everything inside is made of stone. 
 There's nothing in here moving   
  An' anyway I'm not alone.   
 You say you're looking for someone   
  Who'll pick you up each time you fall,  
 To gather flowers constantly 
  An' to come each time you call, 
   A lover for your life an' nothing more,
 
 But it ain't me, babe,   
  No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,  
   It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.  
 
 
 IT AIN'T THAT , BABE!
 
 In July 1992, while driving back to Hartford with a friend 
 after 
   the
 Tribute to Woody Guthrie concert in Central Park and 
 listening 
   to
 Bob Dylan, my companion made some comment about the song It 
   Ain't Me,
 Babe. It seems that somehow his remark and the lingering 
   inspiration
 from the concert set me thinking, because a few days later I 
   suddenly
 came to an startling insight into the meaning of the song's 
   lyrics.
 
 The song has been understood variously as a cynical love 
 song or 
   as
 referring to Dylan's relationship with his audience; 
 however, it 
   is
 actually a political song. It clearly refers to the war in 

[FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread sparaig
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wrote:
 
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  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   
Yeah, Let's put Saddam back in charge of his wonderful
country and get on with the human drops from
helicopters. There are just so, so many delicious ways
to torture, maim and kill people!

   
 I thought that Saddam's use of wood chippers to change the 
minds of
   dissidents was particularly creative and enviromentally 
sensitive 
  too
   
   
  
  That's stillnot documented, as far as I know.
 
 Ya I know...it's really hard to write stuff down when you're being
 ground into little pieces 

True, but the people watching/participating/etc could...

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but where's the proof? Where's the 
testimony of someone who was there? Saddam's being tried for 
warcrimes that happened decades ago, not for these rumored 
attrocities.





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[FairfieldLife] Where do you stand on the battlefield of Kurukshetra, now?

2005-12-12 Thread jim_flanegin
Globally, the neutral value of rajas has sped up considerably in the 
last fifty years or so, as evidenced by the explosive growth of 
technology. It is definitely growing at an exponential rate (Moore's 
Law, et al.). That global activity is currently being used for good 
and ill.

So, why the global speed up of rajas? It appears to be moving from a 
tamas-rajas orientation to a rajas-sattva orientation. Just that--  
the global reorientation of the three gunas, from one dharma to the 
next, is the explanation; less drag = greater momentum = faster pace 
of life.

What has changed in the last fifty years is the global growth of 
sattva in the earth's atmosphere. Like releasing the brake on a 
wheel, this has caused the freeing up of rajas, to allow for a more 
instantaneous translation of thought energy into material existence, 
supporting both positive and negative purposes.

So when the declaration of Sat Yuga was made recently, it indicates 
that a global tipping point towards rajas-sattva had been reached, 
extinguishing the dominion of rajas-tamas.

Through the window of science we see the dawn of the age of 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread Michael Dean Goodman
   Reply from Mike Scozzari to magazine publisher
   12/7/05
  
   Natural Awakenings Magazine
   Palm Beach Edition
   Editor and Publisher
  
   Dear  Leah,
  
   Thank you for forwarding me the letter sent to you by Mr. Goldtein.
   The letter is an unfortunate and clumsy attempt to intimidate and
   embarrass you and your magazine.  There is in fact no substance to
   the absurd allegations made by Mr. Goldtein.  I am a fully trained
   and qualified and bona fide teacher of Transcendental Meditation and
   have been operating as such for the last 33 years. I have thousands
   of my students and clients in the South Florida area. I am well known
   to TM teachers in South Florida and to fellow TM teachers both Nation-
   ally and abroad. My advertisements have been placed in the Palm beach
   media since 1990.
  
   You may forward this letter to Mr Goldstein'. Kindly tell him that his
   assertions that I am in infringement of the service marks in question
   does not necessarily make it so. If Mr Goldstein feels that there has
   been some infringement,  his remedy surely lies in bringing the matter
   before a court of law -- not in complaining to you. If such an action
   were brought by him I along with many other TM teachers with whom I am
   in contact would be strenuously and vigorously contesting his allega-
   tions in a class action suit.  As a self styled copyright attorney Mr.
   Goldstein ought to know that copyright matters are often complex and
   can only be decided by a court oflaw after carefully hearing both
   sides.
  
   Mr Goldstein should be told that a magazine such as yourself cannot
   be expected to get involved in complaints of this nature and that you
   have no intention of getting involved simply on the basis of his alle-
   gations. They are at best his point of view on the matter. If and when
   the matter has been decided by a court of law in his client's favor
   then and only then should he approach your magazine in the manner that
   he has.  Until then, you can take no action on his unsubstantiated
   allegations. That is the end of the matter so far as your magazine is
   concerned.
  
   Indeed,  this is the only position you can fairly take in the circum-
   stances.  Were you to take action on Mr Goldstein's allegations you
   would be doing a great injustice to legitimate clients like myself who
   have been doing business with you for a considerable period of time.
   I am looking forward to my advertisement being placed in your magazine
   and my continuing association with you.
  
   I close with Season's Greetings to you and the staff of Natural Awa-
   kenings Magazine,

   Sincerely,
   Mike Scozzari
  
   cc/legal council


Dear Fairfield Lifers,

There's a lot of misinformation being bandied about in the discussion
of this situation here on FFLife.
I live a mile from this teacher, Mike Scozzari, in Boca Raton Florida.
I've met him and talked with him.
I'm on his e-mail list for announcements about his TM activities.
I see his ads in the local new age magazine that I pick up when I shop
at Whole Foods.
I've also met the local recertified TM teachers and heard them discuss
their interactions with Mike since they arrived here.
Without making any judgments about either side, here are the facts
and impressions I've gathered locally:

People tell me that Mike Scozzari was one of the founding TM teachers
decades ago in the southeast Florida area (Miami).  He did his teacher
training course in 1972, and did a lot of TM teaching here in the good
old days.  Apparently he became a Governor (took the TM-Sidhis program)
somewhere along the line.  When Maharishi's focus changed away from ini-
tiations, and the local center(s) here closed up, Mike continued to try
and teach TM and had trouble adjusting to all the new stuff.  When the
price of TM increased in the 90s, he balked, and set his own pricing.

When I first moved here a couple of years ago from Fairfield, I saw his
TM ad.  So I went to his advertised location for the introductory lecture,
to introduce myself to him, to check him out, and to see what kind of local
meditating community there might be.  He told me that he'd been renting
this conference room in a local Kinko's on Federal Hwy. in Boca Raton
every week for quite a while.  He'd advertise an intro lecture, and show
up - but he admitted to me that hardly anyone had ever attended.  The
night I came to meet him, it was just he and I, and we talked and got
to know each other for over an hour.

He told me that he's married, and he's a traveling sporting goods sales-
man by day.  He said that he had some interest from a couple of companies
to do an in-house TM presentation, and maybe a course, for them.  I men-
tioned that I'd helped design the old TM business program (AFSCI), and
taught it in Chicago in some big companies, and I'd be happy to be of ser-
vice (even go with him to give the presentations without any compensation).
He politely thanked me 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/12/05 10:55:04 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
and 
  necessitating a second heroic anti-colonization 
  struggle.Cheers,Eustace

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/12/05 2:09:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  That's stillnot documented, as far as I know.  Ya I 
  know...it's really hard to write stuff down when you're being ground 
  into little pieces True, but the people watching/participating/etc 
  could...I'm not saying it didn't happen, but where's the proof? 
  Where's the testimony of someone who was there? Saddam's being tried for 
  warcrimes that happened decades ago, not for these rumored 
  attrocities.

Saddam has many charges against him. If the current ones fail 
to get a conviction for some reason,more can be brought against him later. 
Saddam could be on trial for the rest of his 
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[FairfieldLife] Need Healer Feedback

2005-12-12 Thread markmeredith2002
Does anybody know a richard cassidy in ffd who does healing work using
prayers to ascended masters?  A friend is thinking of doing it - it's
expensive and sounds silly at best, but I'd like some concrete feedback.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Need Healer Feedback

2005-12-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anybody know a richard cassidy in ffd who does healing work 
using
 prayers to ascended masters?  A friend is thinking of doing it - it's
 expensive and sounds silly at best, but I'd like some concrete 
feedback.

Tell them to save their money- Brahmananda Saraswati is always 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Need Healer Feedback

2005-12-12 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/12/05 2:51:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does 
  anybody know a richard cassidy in ffd who does healing work usingprayers 
  to ascended masters? A friend is thinking of doing it - 
  it'sexpensive and sounds silly at best, but I'd like some concrete 
  feedback.
Oh Geeez, the beat goes 
on!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 13th annual Children's Holiday Benefit Concert

2005-12-12 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Does John Estrin still play guitar?
  
  Yup - Bambu is getting back together for a new
  year's eve concert
  here.  Jon doesn't have a regular gig going on
  though.
 
 Who are the other band members?

Jason Shocair, Barbara Morello, Stephen Benson(?), George Foster, a
drummer, assorted psychedelic-reggae-latin-rock dancers.  Can't be
beat when they're on.



 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
The evening's music will include several of
  Jonas'
original songs,
including Pledge to Our Love, a song written for
  his
wife Sandy,  Jake's
Song, about a father's eternal love for his
  child,
Tea  Drinkin‚ Man, a
rousing country tribute to the benefits of tea,
  and
I  Want to Be Like You,
Glory Glory, I Am, Dancing in the Light, and 
  Mother
Take Us There, all
songs celebrating life on the spiritual  path.
  Other
favorites will include
Long Black Veil (the Band),  Freedom (Richie
Havens), You Raise Me Up (Josh
Groban), and Love Is a  Rose (Linda Ronstadt),
  among
others.

All proceeds from this year's show will benefit
  the
Jefferson County
Resource Center, the Ottumwa Women's Crisis
  Center,
and Airline
Ambassadors. Tickets are just $7 for adults and
  $5
for students and  will
be available at the door.

Please feel free to forward this email to anyone
  you
think might be
interested in this evening of great fun and
  great
music, all for a  great
cause. Thank you.

We sincerely hope to see you there.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
Michael, I just have one question.  Did your mother ever tape your mouth or otherwise prevent you from talking when you were growing up?

Sal


On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:

(Really long snip)

 I hope this gives FFLife readers some perspective on the local situation
 here in south Florida.  It's caused much more heat on the FFLife list than
 it has here locally!  Locally, other than his ads, Mike's TM activities
 are so limited that they have very little effect and get no attention.
 The few times that my schedule has allowed me to go to a TM event hosted
 by the new teachers, I've never heard Mike mentioned.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Michael, I just have one question.  Did your mother ever tape your 
 mouth or otherwise prevent you from talking when you were growing 
up?
 
 Sal
 
 
 On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
 
 (Really long snip)
 
   I hope this gives FFLife readers some perspective on the local 
  situation
   here in south Florida.  It's caused much more heat on the FFLife 
list 
  than
   it has here locally!  Locally, other than his ads, Mike's TM 
  activities
   are so limited that they have very little effect and get no 
attention.
   The few times that my schedule has allowed me to go to a TM 
event 
  hosted
   by the new teachers, I've never heard Mike mentioned.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: A perspective on Tom Pall

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Spock



 Will Tôm Pâll get offended, if an Africian-Âmerican girl flashes her tits to him.??OriginalMessage-  From: "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:06:10 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] A perspective on Tom Pall   Dr Pete writes:This is what is amazing about Tom P. On one hand he can post these incredibly racist and antisemetic posts, but then he can act with great compassion towards others. In fact Rick Archer posted a commentabout Tom bringing an African American person to see Amma. So, go figure.  Tom T:It is called black and white thinking. Any twelve stepper knows thatone cold. When things ain't black they be white and vice-versa. Noinbetween place to be safe. One way of thinking one is in control is to stake out positions where no one else wants to go. Tom T 
	
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread TurquoiseB
  Michael, I just have one question.  Did your mother ever tape 
  your mouth or otherwise prevent you from talking when you were 
  growing up?
 
 Sounds to me (to quote Michael) like his ego got stuck.

It did seem like an awful lot of words just to
say, Mike should just be complacent like the
rest of us and allow the TM movement to do 
whatever it wants.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:

 Yeah, Let's put Saddam back in charge of his wonderful
 country and get on with the human drops from
 helicopters. There are just so, so many delicious ways
 to torture, maim and kill people!
 

  I thought that Saddam's use of wood chippers to change the 
 minds of
dissidents was particularly creative and enviromentally 
 sensitive 
   too


   
   That's stillnot documented, as far as I know.
  
  Ya I know...it's really hard to write stuff down when you're being
  ground into little pieces 
 
 True, but the people watching/participating/etc could...
 
 I'm not saying it didn't happen, but where's the proof? Where's the 
 testimony of someone who was there? Saddam's being tried for 
 warcrimes that happened decades ago, not for these rumored 
 attrocities.


I've heard there's video. I don't want to see it.
But I was really poking a little fun at your comment.

JohnY
 





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread Vaj

On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:23 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:

 Reply from Mike Scozzari to magazine publisher
 12/7/05

 Natural Awakenings Magazine
 Palm Beach Edition
 Editor and Publisher

 Dear  Leah,

 Thank you for forwarding me the letter sent to you by Mr. Goldtein.
 The letter is an unfortunate and clumsy attempt to intimidate and
 embarrass you and your magazine.  There is in fact no substance to
 the absurd allegations made by Mr. Goldtein.  I am a fully trained
 and qualified and bona fide teacher of Transcendental Meditation and
 have been operating as such for the last 33 years. I have thousands
 of my students and clients in the South Florida area. I am well  
 known
 to TM teachers in South Florida and to fellow TM teachers both  
 Nation-
 ally and abroad. My advertisements have been placed in the Palm  
 beach
 media since 1990.

 You may forward this letter to Mr Goldstein'. Kindly tell him  
 that his
 assertions that I am in infringement of the service marks in  
 question
 does not necessarily make it so. If Mr Goldstein feels that there  
 has
 been some infringement,  his remedy surely lies in bringing the  
 matter
 before a court of law -- not in complaining to you. If such an  
 action
 were brought by him I along with many other TM teachers with whom  
 I am
 in contact would be strenuously and vigorously contesting his  
 allega-
 tions in a class action suit.  As a self styled copyright  
 attorney Mr.
 Goldstein ought to know that copyright matters are often complex and
 can only be decided by a court oflaw after carefully hearing both
 sides.

 Mr Goldstein should be told that a magazine such as yourself cannot
 be expected to get involved in complaints of this nature and that  
 you
 have no intention of getting involved simply on the basis of his  
 alle-
 gations. They are at best his point of view on the matter. If and  
 when
 the matter has been decided by a court of law in his client's favor
 then and only then should he approach your magazine in the manner  
 that
 he has.  Until then, you can take no action on his unsubstantiated
 allegations. That is the end of the matter so far as your  
 magazine is
 concerned.

 Indeed,  this is the only position you can fairly take in the  
 circum-
 stances.  Were you to take action on Mr Goldstein's allegations you
 would be doing a great injustice to legitimate clients like  
 myself who
 have been doing business with you for a considerable period of time.
 I am looking forward to my advertisement being placed in your  
 magazine
 and my continuing association with you.

 I close with Season's Greetings to you and the staff of Natural Awa-
 kenings Magazine,

 Sincerely,
 Mike Scozzari

 cc/legal council


 Dear Fairfield Lifers,

 There's a lot of misinformation being bandied about in the discussion
 of this situation here on FFLife.
 I live a mile from this teacher, Mike Scozzari, in Boca Raton Florida.
 I've met him and talked with him.
 I'm on his e-mail list for announcements about his TM activities.
 I see his ads in the local new age magazine that I pick up when I shop
 at Whole Foods.
 I've also met the local recertified TM teachers and heard them discuss
 their interactions with Mike since they arrived here.
 Without making any judgments about either side, here are the facts
 and impressions I've gathered locally:

 People tell me that Mike Scozzari was one of the founding TM teachers
 decades ago in the southeast Florida area (Miami).  He did his teacher
 training course in 1972, and did a lot of TM teaching here in the  
 good
 old days.  Apparently he became a Governor (took the TM-Sidhis  
 program)
 somewhere along the line.  When Maharishi's focus changed away from  
 ini-
 tiations, and the local center(s) here closed up, Mike continued to  
 try
 and teach TM and had trouble adjusting to all the new stuff.  When the
 price of TM increased in the 90s, he balked, and set his own pricing.

 When I first moved here a couple of years ago from Fairfield, I saw  
 his
 TM ad.  So I went to his advertised location for the introductory  
 lecture,
 to introduce myself to him, to check him out, and to see what kind  
 of local
 meditating community there might be.  He told me that he'd been  
 renting
 this conference room in a local Kinko's on Federal Hwy. in Boca Raton
 every week for quite a while.  He'd advertise an intro lecture, and  
 show
 up - but he admitted to me that hardly anyone had ever attended.  The
 night I came to meet him, it was just he and I, and we talked and got
 to know each other for over an hour.

 He told me that he's married, and he's a traveling sporting goods  
 sales-
 man by day.  He said that he had some interest from a couple of  
 companies
 to do an in-house TM presentation, and maybe a course, for them.  I  
 men-
 tioned that I'd helped design the old TM business program (AFSCI), and
 taught it in Chicago in some big companies, and I'd be happy to be  
 of ser-
 vice (even go with 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
Or his keyboard.

Sal


On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:25 PM, ffia1120 wrote:

 Sounds to me (to quote Michael) like his ego got stuck.


[FairfieldLife] Health and Ag stories from Global Good News

2005-12-12 Thread bbrigante
Dear Readers

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[FairfieldLife] New use for the Vedic City pundit-free trailer park?

2005-12-12 Thread bbrigante
today's Fairfield Ledger on Vedic City plans:

Johnson also suggested a retirement or assisted living facility, 
which he thought would bring a lot of people to the city.

http://tinyurl.com/cjmae








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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread bluecabbagerose
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman 
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman  Dear 
Fairfield Lifers,
 
 There's a lot of misinformation being bandied about in the 
discussion of this situation here on FFLife.
Snip
 Without making any judgments about either side, here are the facts:
Big Snip 
 
- Basically, he (Mike) seems like a guy stuck in the past, (Hmmm... 
sounds like a judgement to me.)
- living a bit of a self-delusion. (Oops, there's another one.)
- he seems to have lost connection with today's TM Movement (Hey, 
this is a GOOD THING!)
- and isn't really producing much real TM activity or TM teaching. 
(Hmmm... and the TMO is?)
- seems way out of touch with reality (Seriously, who's way out of 
touch with reality in this scenario?)
- Mike seems to be a loner; he could hardly get 4 other people to 
flying sessions (and most weren't teachers)  (Well now, there's a 
slap in the face to all the citizen Sidha's down there in Florida.)
- And where are his thousands of students? (H... and where are 
the TMO's?)

Why is MDG so afraid and intimidated by this self delusioned guy who 
is stuck in his past that he finds it necessary to spend HOURS 
bolstering his ego writing this endless dribble?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: New use for the Vedic City pundit-free trailer park?

2005-12-12 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 today's Fairfield Ledger on Vedic City plans:
 
 Johnson also suggested a retirement or assisted living facility, 
 which he thought would bring a lot of people to the city.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/cjmae

Speaking of getting old, or older (I'm turning the big 50 in a few 
months, I would say 2006 will be when M gains mahasamadhi.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's Adult Yahoo Category

2005-12-12 Thread bbrigante
in addition to not using the word bondage, to keep out of the 
clutches of Yahoo's filtering software, we can't use the words on the 
list at this URL 

http://thermonuclear.org/echelon.html




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[FairfieldLife] Re: New use for the Vedic City pundit-free trailer park?

2005-12-12 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  today's Fairfield Ledger on Vedic City plans:
  
  Johnson also suggested a retirement or assisted living 
facility, 
  which he thought would bring a lot of people to the city.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/cjmae


 
 Speaking of getting old, or older (I'm turning the big 50 in a few 
 months, I would say 2006 will be when M gains mahasamadhi.
 
 lurk
 


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would mean that many more people could start TM when this great 
light goes out of the world. Anyway, MMY has said it all -- there is 
no aspect of Vedic knowledge that he has not made available -- his 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] New use for the Vedic City pundit-free trailer park?

2005-12-12 Thread Peter


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 http://tinyurl.com/cjmae

Geriatric hot sesame oil rubs.hmmm we do belong in
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Michael, I just have one question.  Did your mother ever tape 
   your mouth or otherwise prevent you from talking when you were 
   growing up?
  
  Sounds to me (to quote Michael) like his ego got stuck.
 
 It did seem like an awful lot of words just to
 say, Mike should just be complacent like the
 rest of us and allow the TM movement to do 
 whatever it wants.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Michael, I just have one question.  Did your mother ever tape 
   your mouth or otherwise prevent you from talking when you were 
   growing up?
  
  Sounds to me (to quote Michael) like his ego got stuck.
 
 It did seem like an awful lot of words just to
 say, Mike should just be complacent like the
 rest of us and allow the TM movement to do 
 whatever it wants.


About a year ago I had the opportunity to speak to Mike S. I admired
his tenacity and the fact that he was teaching regularly. Four people
a month is probably more than the re'certs are doing. I guess it all
depends on whether you think the TMO should honor it's agreements with
teachers or not. And whether the TM Organiztions should actually teach
the TM technique or just raise money. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/12/05 10:21 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Yeah, Let's put Saddam back in charge of his wonderful
 country and get on with the human drops from
 helicopters. There are just so, so many delicious ways
 to torture, maim and kill people!
 
 
   I thought that Saddam's use of wood chippers to change the minds of
 dissidents was particularly creative and enviromentally sensitive
 too
 
 
 
 That's stillnot documented, as far as I know.
 
 Ya I know...it's really hard to write stuff down when you're being
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: IAC Statement on Saddam Hussein's Trial

2005-12-12 Thread Peter


--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 on 12/12/05 10:21 AM, jyouells2000 at
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
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  Yeah, Let's put Saddam back in charge of his
 wonderful
  country and get on with the human drops from
  helicopters. There are just so, so many
 delicious ways
  to torture, maim and kill people!
  
  
I thought that Saddam's use of wood chippers
 to change the minds of
  dissidents was particularly creative and
 enviromentally sensitive
  too
  
  
  
  That's stillnot documented, as far as I know.
  
  Ya I know...it's really hard to write stuff down
 when you're being
  ground into little pieces
 
 He must have watched Fargo

Rick, about 20 years ago a guy in Weston, CT
woodchipped his wife into Devil's Den. They got
suspicious when he returned the rented chipper without
housing it off.



 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New use for the Vedic City pundit-free trailer park?

2005-12-12 Thread Peter


--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante
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  today's Fairfield Ledger on Vedic City plans:
  
  Johnson also suggested a retirement or assisted
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  which he thought would bring a lot of people to
 the city.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/cjmae
 
 Speaking of getting old, or older (I'm turning the
 big 50 in a few 
 months, I would say 2006 will be when M gains
 mahasamadhi.
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Need Healer Feedback

2005-12-12 Thread Peter


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  Does anybody know a richard cassidy in ffd who
 does healing work 
 using
  prayers to ascended masters?  A friend is thinking
 of doing it - it's
  expensive and sounds silly at best, but I'd like
 some concrete 
 feedback.
 
 Tell them to save their money- Brahmananda Saraswati
 is always 
 available, as is the Angel Gabriel. Both offer
 concrete feedback...

So does Jesus, MMY, SSRS, and any form you wish to
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New use for the Vedic City pundit-free trailer park?

2005-12-12 Thread gullible fool

 April 23, 2008. 3:17 GMT

What's with April 23rd? You recently posted that would
be your day to leave as well. 

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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante
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   today's Fairfield Ledger on Vedic City plans:
   
   Johnson also suggested a retirement or assisted
  living facility, 
   which he thought would bring a lot of people to
  the city.
   
   http://tinyurl.com/cjmae
  
  Speaking of getting old, or older (I'm turning the
  big 50 in a few 
  months, I would say 2006 will be when M gains
  mahasamadhi.
  
  lurk
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO threatens South Florida teacher and magazine

2005-12-12 Thread anonymousff
What an arrogant asshole you, MDG, are. This is beyond any of your 
usual pompous material.


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
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  Michael, I just have one question.  Did your mother ever tape 
your 
  mouth or otherwise prevent you from talking when you were growing 
 up?
  
  Sal
  
  
  On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
  
  (Really long snip)
  
I hope this gives FFLife readers some perspective on the local 
   situation
here in south Florida.  It's caused much more heat on the 
FFLife 
 list 
   than
it has here locally!  Locally, other than his ads, Mike's TM 
   activities
are so limited that they have very little effect and get no 
 attention.
The few times that my schedule has allowed me to go to a TM 
 event 
   hosted
by the new teachers, I've never heard Mike mentioned.
 
 Sounds to me (to quote Michael) like his ego got stuck.







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[FairfieldLife] World's quickest political test: what are you?

2005-12-12 Thread shempmcgurk
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html





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[FairfieldLife] Looking for Larry Domash, Nick Marcie Wolf, Vernon Katz, Barbara Holderedge

2005-12-12 Thread Dr. Natan Ophir
These people were sent by MMY to lead the Sidhis course in Tzefat 
Israel in November 1978. Does anyone know how to contact them or where 
they are? 





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