*****SPAM***** [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of qntmpkt Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --It's true, but there are more bizarre things in life. MMY's hairdresser told me (1973) that he accidently walked by MMY's open door at a course in India; and he was in a sexual embrace with a female. So what? What are the implications? MMY had a hairdresser? And he left his door open while embracing a female? And what kind of door was it in a place where you could glance through it? I thought the huts in Rishikesh were kinda semi-underground? He didn't live in a hut in Rishikesh. He had quite a nice house. At what point?
[FairfieldLife] Bhojadeva's comment on YS II 40, part 1 (transliteration)
yaH shaucaM bhaavayati tasya svaangeSvapi kaaraNa- svaruupa-paryaalocana-dvaareNa jugupsaa ghRNaa samupajaayate 'sucirayaM kaayo naatraa ''grahaH kaarya iti amunaiva hetunaa parairanyaishca kaayavadbhirasaMsargaH saMsargaabhaavaH saMsarga- parivarjanamityarthaH | yaH kila svameva kaayaM jugupsate tattadavadyadarshanaatsa kathaM parakiiyais tathaabhuutaiH kaayaiH saMsargamanubhavati | shaucasyaiva phalaantaram aaha -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:58 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Maybe the only scandal with Amma is that there is no scandal with Amma. And THAT's rare. As I recall there was a post 6 -12 months ago. Maybe it was the one Rick mentioned he reposted, or maybe it was a different one. But there was dirt. Yes, there was dirt. Mostly about money, but other stuff as well. Things have happened around Amma that no organization would want to publicize. People have committed suicide in her ashram. People working in her organization have proven untrustworthy with money (India business ethics), swamis and close personal attendants have left her organization. Human beings are human beings. But as far as I can tell, she sets a good example and that example trickles down through her organization. People are generally kind, humble, hard-working, and genuinely caring for others. Amma takes great pains to make sure her organizations finances and other practices are beyond reproach. And it shows. There's a good feeling around the whole thing, and much is accomplished. The syndrome of making big promises and plans and collecting a lot of money to fund them and then having nothing to show for it is nowhere in evidence. LIke what? PUndits never showing up?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhojadeva's comment on YS II 40, part 2 (sandhi-vigraha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yaH shaucaM bhaavayati tasya svaangeSvapi kaaraNa- svaruupa-paryaalocana-dvaareNa jugupsaa ghRNaa samupajaayate 'sucirayaM kaayo naatraa ''grahaH kaarya iti amunaiva hetunaa parairanyaishca kaayavadbhirasaMsargaH saMsargaabhaavaH saMsarga- parivarjanamityarthaH | yaH kila svameva kaayaM jugupsate tattadavadyadarshanaatsa kathaM parakiiyais tathaabhuutaiH kaayaiH saMsargamanubhavati | shaucasyaiva phalaantaram aaha - yaH shaucaM bhaavayati tasya sva+angeSu+api kaaraNa- svaruupa-paryaalocana-dvaareNa jugupsaa ghRNaa samupajaayate; asucirayaM kaayH; naatra+aagrahaH kaaryaH; iti amunaa+eva hetunaa paraiH; anyaiH; ca kaayavadbhiH; asaMsargaH saMsargaabhaavaH saMsarga- parivarjanam iti+arthaH | yaH kila svam eva kaayaM jugupsate tat-tat; avadya-darshanaat sa kathaM parakiiyaiH; tathaa-bhuutaiH kaayaiH saMsargam anubhavati | shaucasya+eva phala-antaram aaha -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhojadeva's comment on YS II 40, part 2 (sandhi-vigraha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: yaH shaucaM bhaavayati tasya svaangeSvapi kaaraNa- svaruupa-paryaalocana-dvaareNa jugupsaa ghRNaa samupajaayate 'sucirayaM kaayo naatraa ''grahaH kaarya iti amunaiva hetunaa parairanyaishca kaayavadbhirasaMsargaH saMsargaabhaavaH saMsarga- parivarjanamityarthaH | yaH kila svameva kaayaM jugupsate tattadavadyadarshanaatsa kathaM parakiiyais tathaabhuutaiH kaayaiH saMsargamanubhavati | shaucasyaiva phalaantaram aaha - yaH shaucaM bhaavayati tasya sva+angeSu+api kaaraNa- svaruupa-paryaalocana-dvaareNa jugupsaa ghRNaa samupajaayate; asucirayaM kaayH; naatra+aagrahaH kaaryaH; iti amunaa+eva hetunaa paraiH; anyaiH; ca kaayavadbhiH; asaMsargaH saMsargaabhaavaH saMsarga- parivarjanam iti+arthaH | yaH kila svam eva kaayaM jugupsate tat-tat; avadya-darshanaat sa kathaM parakiiyaiH; tathaa-bhuutaiH kaayaiH saMsargam anubhavati | shaucasya+eva phala-antaram aaha - plesedontnomessages u will give only wallpapers
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhojadeva's comment on YS II 40, part 2 (sandhi-vigraha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ajay_mukargi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shaucasya+eva phala-antaram aaha - plesedontnomessages u will give only wallpapers -watsarongarooneiwhitternicerwallpapers?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All you have to do to make that happen is to pretend that Peter KLutz does not represent neither the TMO nor your average TMer. Why should I pretend that. You DO represent TM, the TMO, and your average TMer. You just don't want to deal with that. First you embarrassed yourself and all three of the above institutions by vandal- izing Wikipedia, and now you're embarrassing all three on other forums as I repost the things you say here on FFL. I *told* you guys why I was compiling these lists of quotes, and the three worst offenders chose not to believe me. I'm doing it because 1) these quotes may warn away a few people from getting involved with the TMO, and 2) to give the worst offenders (you, Judy and Nablus) a taste of what it's like to be a TM teacher, and to have every word you speak and action you perform be regarded as a commercial for -- or against -- some- thing you believe in. It's clear that you don't get it, but the people reading these quotes do. Someday I should compile a list of the *responses* among the greater spiritual community to the things you three have said, and post them here. Since the alternative, to start a blog called THINGS PETERKLUTZ BELIEVE is not a healthy option for yourself (the only way you will be able to pay me off after my lawyers are done with you, is to kill yourself and sell your empty brain to science), maybe you should just put a sock in your French little faggot mouth and forget about it. Yet another quote for the next issue. :-) Besides, you couldn't afford a lawyer if you were on trial for murder, much less fantasy murder. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I'm with Lawson on this one - it would not make any sense for MMY to be celibate for 46 years, and then not celibate for two weeks, and then celibate till age 90. Who said anything about two weeks? The alleged affairs span a number of years. From the early 60's, according to Joyce Collin-Smith (http://www.authorsonline.co.uk/book/Call%20No%20Man%20Master/) 'till La Antilla, about a decade later. EVen so, it's decidedly odd behavior: celibate (one assumes) for a good long while voluntarily, then not, then again. Lawson, all I can say is that it sounds like you have talked to as few theoretical celibates as Judy has talked to homeless people. If you'd spent any time around them (Buddhist monks, Hindu monks, Catholic priests and nuns, etc.) you'd know that THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENS. Celibate for years or decades, and then bam! -- screw yer brains out for a while, then back to celibate for a few years or decades, and then bam! again. It's just how things work in the real world (as opposed to the fantasy world that people who have never *lived* that lifestyle dream up about it). Yeah, but... MMY was allegedly celibate when he started hanging with Gurudev, and it wasn't until he was in his mid-40's that he suddenly needed to sew his oats. That is NOT typical. Lawson -- read a book. Learn something. Or better, talk to people who have tried to live a celibate lifestyle before you make assumptions *about* that lifestyle. What you describe is the *most* typical situation in which fooling around by celibates happens.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:57 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Maybe the only scandal with Amma is that there is no scandal with Amma. And THAT's rare. As I recall there was a post 6 -12 months ago. Maybe it was the one Rick mentioned he reposted, or maybe it was a different one. But there was dirt. Yes, there was dirt. Mostly about money, but other stuff as well. Welcome to the world of mud, largely perceived thru mud lenses. That and the pedestal phenomenon. Whatever else one can say about him, one of the most insightful things that the Rama guy I studied with ever wrote was the following: Pedestals were invented by a very wise man who perceived the need in human consciousness to cast people down. This wise man realized that it would be impossible to cast people down unless you had put them up on something first. So he invented the pedestal, which is now employed on a regular basis. You put people on it so you can cast them down later. Indeed, he was a wise man. The dirt tends to come from the disillusioned. But the illusions themselves were *their own*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip But to ignore that his own desires for fame (and world domination) World domination?? You must understand that in Vaj's fantasy, Maharishi is Dr. Evil, and Vaj is Mini-Me... You should see 'em over on TMFree. It's really quite extraordinary. A real circus of self-righteousness, I'll bet... Circle jerk is more like it. I've checked it out once or twice. Pretty boring stuff actually. More designed to drum up business from the victims than anything else. I wonder if they have an exaggerated idea of how large their target market is of people whose experiences in the TMO are still actually disabling. The other market, of course, is of people who are considering learning TM. I've got that one covered with THINGS TMers BELIEVE. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I *told* you guys why I was compiling these lists of quotes, and the three worst offenders chose not to believe me. Think that could possibly be because you have such a striking record of chronic, vicious dishonesty, especially in your attacks on TMers, especially your critics on this forum? I'm doing it because 1) these quotes may warn away a few people from getting involved with the TMO, and 2) to give the worst offenders (you, Judy and Nablus) a taste of what it's like to be a TM teacher, and to have every word you speak and action you perform be regarded as a commercial for -- or against -- some- thing you believe in. Or maybe because what you claim your intentions are is obvious nonsense? Or perhaps both?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip But to ignore that his own desires for fame (and world domination) World domination?? You must understand that in Vaj's fantasy, Maharishi is Dr. Evil, and Vaj is Mini-Me... You should see 'em over on TMFree. It's really quite extraordinary. A real circus of self-righteousness, I'll bet... Circle jerk is more like it. I've checked it out once or twice. Pretty boring stuff actually. More designed to drum up business from the victims than anything else. I wonder if they have an exaggerated idea of how large their target market is of people whose experiences in the TMO are still actually disabling. The other market, of course, is of people who are considering learning TM. I've got that one covered with THINGS TMers BELIEVE. :-) And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions. Off topic, but how can John have minions when I have none? I try to treat minions really well and I can't keep a single one. (am I scaring them away with my Sex-on-demand rules for minions poster?) If I turn John into the INS for his minions could I maybe get to keep one of his? (Not the male ones) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip But to ignore that his own desires for fame (and world domination) World domination?? You must understand that in Vaj's fantasy, Maharishi is Dr. Evil, and Vaj is Mini-Me... You should see 'em over on TMFree. It's really quite extraordinary. A real circus of self-righteousness, I'll bet... Circle jerk is more like it. I've checked it out once or twice. Pretty boring stuff actually. More designed to drum up business from the victims than anything else. I wonder if they have an exaggerated idea of how large their target market is of people whose experiences in the TMO are still actually disabling. The other market, of course, is of people who are considering learning TM. I've got that one covered with THINGS TMers BELIEVE. :-) And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions.
[FairfieldLife] Where's Osama?
From Wired magazine: Where in the world is Osama bin Laden? Uh ... try checking Google Earth. After Google recently updated its satellite images of parts of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, much of the region still looked blotchy the kind of low resolution that persists in coverage of, say, upstate New York. But several small squares (they stand out as off-color patches from 680 miles up) suddenly became as detailed as the images of Manhattan. These sectors happen to be precisely where the US government has been hunting for bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Turns out, Google gets its images from many of the same satellite companies DigitalGlobe, TerraMetrics, and others - that provide reconnaissance to US intelligence agencies. And when the CIA requests close-ups of the area around Peshawar in Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province, Google Earth reaps the benefits (although usually six to 18 months later). This is also why remote parts of Asia went hi-res after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 and the Kashmir earthquake in 2005. Google doesn't ask why resolution improves in particular locations. But the CIA believes bin Laden is holed up in the Hindu Kush mountain range-one of the most out-of-the-way places on Earth and you can now see every house, school, and mosque in certain villages there. Keep your eyes peeled for a very tall guy with a long beard and an AK- 47. Matthew Cole http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.03/start.html?pg=10
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Witness Chronology; Now Gospel Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I regard TM as having saved my life. The issue for me is that M's shady side casts doubt on the validity of many things he has said. I used to take his word as the gospel truth, because he was enlightened, and by his definition, the enlightened could do no wrong. Compare your situation to that of George W Bush, who was an alcoholic loser until he was saved by Jesus. That experience truly seemed to help get him off alcohol and improve his life. I've known a few tm teachers who also struggled with alcohol problems until they had a similar being saved experience with Jesus. So that experience can save a person's life if they're really struggling, but does that mean that the whole evangelical belief system is gospel truth not to be questioned?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
I've checked it out once or twice. Pretty boring stuff actually. More designed to drum up business from the victims than anything else. I wonder if they have an exaggerated idea of how large their target market is of people whose experiences in the TMO are still actually disabling. The other market, of course, is of people who are considering learning TM. What they are doing is very nice because it probes serious people to look more into what Transcendental Meditation really is. As soon as they see that they are not becoming a member of the TMO by learning TM, it could have a positive effect on initiations. As is the silly and hateful propaganda from Barry. I think it ultimately has the effect that more people will learn TM. Maharishi once said that there are two ways to God. One is to love and transcend, one is to hate. Either way leads to the same goal, though the negative road is longer and more dangerous. So keep going Barry, you no doubt will get there ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Mark Morford: Can George W. Bush Be Purged?
= Mark Morford's Notes Errata = SFGate.com - Friday, March 16, 2007 _ Can http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2007/03/16/notes03160 7.DTLnl=fix George W. Bush Be Purged? Mayan priests purified their sacred land after Shrub scurried off. Can we do the same? By Mark Morford Sage is always good. Or maybe lavender. Pine is nice, too. Dried, bundled, tied with string, burned with hot, divine intent. Would it work? Do we have enough to go around? This is the question. I speak, of course, of ritual. Purging and cleansing and purifying and, truly, burning a nicely dried, blessed smudge stick http://ambrosiasrealms.tripod.com/cleansing.htm can be a terrific slice of personal magic, to rid a space (or perhaps even your own body) of negative juju or vicious spirits or just to make way for the new and the moist and the good. You can smudge a room. You can create a divine smoldering cloud and then move through the smoke, invoke change, purge the negative, invite hot licks of yes. It is a thing to do. But here's the thing: Can you smudge an entire nation? Do we have enough lavender for 300 million? It is, all things considered, a big goddamn country. Windy. Rocky, in places. Could be tricky. Not to mention, you know, hazy. From all the smoke. Think of the potential traffic accidents. Coughing. Important considerations, really, because it is becoming increasingly evident that a great national purifying ritual is just about exactly what we need. We are, after all, almost at that point. The Great Bleakness is nearing its end and you can veritably feel the swarm of uptight BushCo demons and malicious energies swirling around the country like happy karmic leeches, like a giant intellectual rash, like black raindrops of dank sweat from Karl Rove's evil mealy thighs. ... (click http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2007/03/16/notes03160 7.DTLnl=fix here to read the rest) (Full URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2007/03/16/notes031607 .DTLnl=fix) _ To subscribe or unsubscribe, please click here http://sfgate.com/newsletters and remove one article of clothing. Mark Morford's Notes Errata column appears every Wednesday and Friday on SFGate, and in the Datebook section of the San Francisco Chronicle. Mark's column also has an RSS feed http://sfgate.com/rss , and an archive http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/a of past columns, which includes a tiny photo of Mark probably insufficient for you to recognize him in the street and give him gifts. As if that weren't enough, Mark also contributes to the hot, spankin' SFGate Culture http://sfgate.com/blogs/culture Blog. _ All contents (tm) (c) 2007 SF Gate http://sfgate.com/chronicle/info/copyright/ ~ nil desperandum ~
[FairfieldLife] Disgust?
Shauca (purity) is one of the niyamas (YS II 32). According to II 40 shaucaat svaanga-jugupsaa... Taimni's translation: From physical purity (arises) disgust for one's own body... How do you experience that (possible) disgust? Alistair Shearer translation: II 40 Simplicity destroys identification with the body, and brings freedom from contact with other bodies. II 41: Purity of mind, cheerfulness, mastery of the senses, one-pointedness and fitness for Self-realization follow. Tom
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Witness Chronology; Now Gospel Truth
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Witness Chronology; Now Gospel Truth --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I regard TM as having saved my life. The issue for me is that M's shady side casts doubt on the validity of many things he has said. I used to take his word as the gospel truth, because he was enlightened, and by his definition, the enlightened could do no wrong. Compare your situation to that of George W Bush, who was an alcoholic loser until he was saved by Jesus. That experience truly seemed to help get him off alcohol and improve his life. I've known a few tm teachers who also struggled with alcohol problems until they had a similar being saved experience with Jesus. So that experience can save a person's life if they're really struggling, but does that mean that the whole evangelical belief system is gospel truth not to be questioned? I agree. That's why I question the whole TM belief system.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurk And YOU'RE the one talking about DENIAL Vaj? I have no desire to find dirt on Amma. If there are things out there, let's get them out in the open. Vaj: No, just that it went totally against anything I'd perceived or even heard. Of course I'm open to whatever's there. I have no idea if the negative stories are true or not. I guess time will tell. lurk All the great Saints of modern time have been tried to be disgraced. Yogananda, Krishnamurti, Shri Chimnoy, Maharishi, Swami Premananda, Sai Baba and now possibly Amma. Probably the next on the list is Sri Ravishankar, but he is seen as to young and not a threat, as yet. This is an ongoing and coordinated effort, and if you thought it started with that peanut-farmer Carter, no. It has been going on for a very long time. The writers on this forum could be well adviced to practise self- scrutiny in this matter. Please analyze your deepest motifs for what you write. Some writers are like babies, blurting out without filter problems they are not aware are hidden in themselves, and blame others. Some are very well aware of their motifs. It is a combination of money/greed and religious fundamentalism (mostly Christian). And ofcourse nationalism because they fear Hinduism is going to take over their country. This is happening all over the world, not only in the USA. They are obviously wrong, and as time proceeds these forces will naturally disappear.
[FairfieldLife] Google Alert - amritanandamayi
An example of the kind of stuff Amma does. She was talking about this one time here in FF, but was too preoccupied with the tsunami, and couldn’t get to it. Now it appears she has. These farmers are committing suicide because they are owned by loan sharks, sometimes for generations. Google News Alert for: amritanandamayi Amma donates Rs200 cr http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1085141 to curb farmer suicides Daily News Analysis - Mumbai,India In the city to spread her message of peace and love, Mata Amritanandamayi or Amma has embraced the woeful lot of Maharashtras suicidal farmers. ... http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp%3FNewsID%3D1085141 See all stories on this topic Maharashtra http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?slug=Maharashtra+CM+seeks+spiritual+helpid=102199category=National CM seeks spiritual help NDTV.com - New Delhi,India A popular spiritual leader from the south, Mata Amritanandamayi, visited the CM on Thursday to discuss the issue of farmer suicides. ... http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp%3Fslug%3DMaharashtra%2BCM%2Bseeks%2Bspiritual%2Bhelp%26id%3D102199%26category%3DNational See all stories on this topic
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions. Off topic, but how can John have minions when I have none? I try to treat minions really well and I can't keep a single one. (am I scaring them away with my Sex-on-demand rules for minions poster?) For a manual on the stalking of and subsequent care and feeding of minions, check out Christopher Moore's latest novel, You Suck: A Love Story. Tommy and Jody are new vampires. They fall asleep at sunrise and don't wake up until sunset, so they need someone to run errands for them during the day. So they find a 19-year-old Goth girl named Abby Normal and make her their minion. It's just to die for; whole chapters are written in the form of Abby writing in her Journal. Very, very funny stuff.
[FairfieldLife] Well, jahi shatrum!
BG III 43: [...] jahi shatruM, mahaabaaho, kaama-ruupaM duraasadam. O mighty-armed (mahaabaaho = Arjuna), slay (jahi: juhee) the enemy (shatrum: shutroom) in the form of desire (kaama-ruupam) difficult to subdue (dur-aasadam).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--I doubt that you'll be able to collect any dirt on Ramana Maharshi. He's impeccable as to moral standardsin the same category as Guru Dev. n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: lurk And YOU'RE the one talking about DENIAL Vaj? I have no desire to find dirt on Amma. If there are things out there, let's get them out in the open. Vaj: No, just that it went totally against anything I'd perceived or even heard. Of course I'm open to whatever's there. I have no idea if the negative stories are true or not. I guess time will tell. lurk All the great Saints of modern time have been tried to be disgraced. Yogananda, Krishnamurti, Shri Chimnoy, Maharishi, Swami Premananda, Sai Baba and now possibly Amma. Probably the next on the list is Sri Ravishankar, but he is seen as to young and not a threat, as yet. This is an ongoing and coordinated effort, and if you thought it started with that peanut-farmer Carter, no. It has been going on for a very long time. The writers on this forum could be well adviced to practise self- scrutiny in this matter. Please analyze your deepest motifs for what you write. Some writers are like babies, blurting out without filter problems they are not aware are hidden in themselves, and blame others. Some are very well aware of their motifs. It is a combination of money/greed and religious fundamentalism (mostly Christian). And ofcourse nationalism because they fear Hinduism is going to take over their country. This is happening all over the world, not only in the USA. They are obviously wrong, and as time proceeds these forces will naturally disappear.
[FairfieldLife] The Secret Law of Attraction
MMY on How To Fulfill Your Desires -- Keep your desire turning back within and be patient. Allow the fulfillment to come to you. Gently resist the temptation to chase your dreams into the world; pursue them in your heart until they disappear into the Self, and leave them there. It may take a little self-discipline, be simple, be kind, stay rested. Attend to your own inner-health happiness. Happiness radiates like the fragrance from a flower and draws all good things towards you. Allow your love to nourish yourself as well as others. Do not strain after your needs of life, it is sufficient to be quietly alert and aware of them. In this way life proceeds more naturally, effortlessly. Life is here to enjoy.-- Maharishi source: www.livingyourcolors.com/spiritual.html quote from Upanishads -- The great teacher Prajapati said: The Self is pure, free from decay and death, free from hunger and thirst, and free from sorrow. The Self desires nothing that is not good, wills nothing that is not good. Seek and realize the Self! Those who seek and realize the Self fulfill all their desires and attain the goal supreme. -- Chandogya Upanishad from The Upanishads translated by Eknath Easwaran, Nilgiri Press
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:37 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurk And YOU'RE the one talking about DENIAL Vaj? I have no desire to find dirt on Amma. If there are things out there, let's get them out in the open. Vaj: No, just that it went totally against anything I'd perceived or even heard. Of course I'm open to whatever's there. I have no idea if the negative stories are true or not. I guess time will tell. lurk All the great Saints of modern time have been tried to be disgraced. Yogananda, Krishnamurti, Shri Chimnoy, Maharishi, Swami Premananda, Sai Baba and now possibly Amma. Probably the next on the list is Sri Ravishankar, but he is seen as to young and not a threat, as yet. This is an ongoing and coordinated effort, and if you thought it started with that peanut-farmer Carter, no. It has been going on for a very long time. Actually, Nabby, corruption has been going on for a long time. Catholic priests have been molesting boys, as has Sai Baba. Other saints have been hitting on the women. Not all do these things, and not all do them to the same degree. Idealism is a laudable quality, but you seem determined to preserve a rosy vision of things, no matter how much evidence conflicts with it. In my opinion, this is not a healthy attitude, nor is it honest, nor is it realistic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Nabby, corruption has been going on for a long time. Catholic priests have been molesting boys, as has Sai Baba. Other saints have been hitting on the women. Not all do these things, and not all do them to the same degree. Idealism is a laudable quality, but you seem determined to preserve a rosy vision of things, no matter how much evidence conflicts with it. In my opinion, this is not a healthy attitude, nor is it honest, nor is it realistic. Catholic priests have been molesting girls too, for a long, long time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peterklutz wrote: The point I made in this thread is that only intellectual knowledge is worthless, even counterproductive. That's one reason for Maharishi's greatness - he has actually given people the experience and tools they need to become Enlightened. Maybe so, but surely there's a defintion of what TM is and what a TMer is - it's just common sense, that you'd define what it is that you're talking about, so we could agree on some basics. That's my point, but nobody seems to be able to say what, exactly, a TMer is supposed to be. And who gets to pronounce who is and who isn't a TMer anyway? You have already given a clear definition of what a TMer is. Twice.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions. Off topic, but how can John have minions when I have none? I try to treat minions really well and I can't keep a single one. (am I scaring them away with my Sex-on-demand rules for minions poster?) For a manual on the stalking of and subsequent care and feeding of minions, check out Christopher Moore's latest novel, You Suck: A Love Story. Tommy and Jody are new vampires. They fall asleep at sunrise and don't wake up until sunset, so they need someone to run errands for them during the day. So they find a 19-year-old Goth girl named Abby Normal and make her their minion. It's just to die for; whole chapters are written in the form of Abby writing in her Journal. Very, very funny stuff. Thanks for confirming who you are: a closet-Satanist..
[FairfieldLife] Dome announcements: Housing available; St. Patrick's Day festivities
1. On-campus Housing for Assembly Participants Beginning April 1 and through the summer, on-campus housing will be available for Assembly Participants. The departure of computer science interns and CIC participants has freed up 25 rooms for ladies and 40 rooms for men. In July additional housing will be available following graduation. 2. St. Patrick's Day Celebrations Thursday and Sunday As you may know St. Patrick's Day is March 17, and you are warmly invited to join us in celebrating this Thursday and Sunday. On Thursday we have Tim Britton in the Cosmic Cafe at 7:30. Tim is a nationally acclaimed Irish Bagpiper and recording artist. On hearing Tim on his Irish Bagpipes, Scottish bagpipes, flute, Irish tin whistle or vocals, students often say that he has thrilled their soul profoundly. All cultures seem to love his pure Irish melodies as if it was their own cultural music. Don't miss this event! On Sunday (March,18) to perform for our annual Irish Party we have collected the best Irish musicians, and our lively Irish dancers Kirsi Marcus, Anna Bruen, Puki Freeberg and Mary Long. Columbia recording artist Rick Stanley plays Celtic harp, guitar, banjo and vocals. Claudine plays the Boldrum, a traditional Irish Drum, and will accompany the MoonCoin Irish Band for a variety of upbeat melodies. Also included will the double fiddle of Ann Boswald and her Son Donavan along with special Irish Story teller Tracy Chipman. Traditional sweet Irish soda bread and jam with be served with Irish Chai. Toe tapping wonderful our St Patrick's celebration is always a packed house in the Cafe, so come early ! ! ! These events are free for M.U.M. Students, Staff and Faculty. For all others, Thursday is $5 and Sunday is $8. We hope to see you all there! Gerard and Aengus, Student Activities *** DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Encourage your friends to sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put the word subscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
Jayendra is the one who was charged with murder; he may be a Shankaracharya in a wider sense but he does not hold one of the four principal seats, nor has he ever been acknowledged by anyone who has claims on one. The guy you are refering to is... Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal #2309;#2332;#2381;#2334;#2366;#2344;#2366;#2306; #2332;#2366;#2361;#2381;#2344;#2357;#2368; #2340;#2368;#2352;#2381;#2341;#2306; #2357;#2367;#2342;#2381;#2351;#2366;#2340;#2368;#2352;#2381;#2341;#2306; #2357;#2367;#2357;#2375;#2325;#2367;#2344;#2366;#2350;#2381; #2404; #2360;#2352;#2381;#2357;#2375;#2359;#2366;#2306; #2360;#2369;#2326;#2342;#2306; #2340;#2368;#2352;#2381;#2341;#2306; #2349;#2366;#2352;#2340;#2368;#2340;#2368;#2352;#2381;#2341;#2350;#2366;#2358;#2381;#2352;#2351;#2375; #2405; To the ignorant, You are verily the holy Ganga, To the wise, You are the seat of Knowledge, To everyone, You bestow what is good, O Bharati Tirtha, I seek refuge in You! Inspiring Life Sri Bharati Tirtha, the present Jagadguru of the Sringeri Sharada Peetham, a sanyasin of the highest paramahamsa order, is arguably the foremost scholar today of Vedanta and sastras. In 1966, he approached the then Sringeri Jagadguru Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha Mahaswamiji as a bachelor at the age of 15 seeking his blessings and instruction in the sastras. The Sringeri Acharya was then observing chaturmasya at Ujjain. Sitarama Anjaneyulu (that was the Acharyas name in his poorvashrama) had come with great vairagya growing in him. As the great Acharya was returning after bath in the river Sipra, Sitarama Anjaneyulu prostrated before him and sought his tutelage, which was granted. The very next day the Acharya started teaching him. He soon became a gem of a scholar and a dear disciple. What prompted the boy who had just finished high school studies, and who was advised by his father to go for higher education, to leave his home? Why did he go all the way to Ujjain from his home in Narasaraopet in Guntur District of Andhra Pradesh? It must have been predetermined so by Goddess Sharadamba, the presiding deity of Sringeri Mutt. When the same question was put to brahmachari Sitarama Anjaneyulu, he replied: I had the good fortune of having the darshan of the Jagadguru quite early in life. Once I was asked to talk in Sanskrit by my teacher before His Holiness in Vijayawada. I got a special prize from him. At that time, it struck me that His Holiness was my teacher and my saviour. His beaming smile was giving me a message. I thought I got what I wanted. His Holiness has since been in my mind always. I used to feel that I was guided by His Holiness whenever there was a problem. This feeling grew in me to such an extent that I could not stay in my place. Since then Sitarama Anjaneyulu did not leave the lotus feet of the Acharya. He accompanied the Acharya during all his tours. Within eight years he finished the study of Krishna Yajur Veda, Purva and Uttara Mimamsa, Nyaya Sastra and many other treatises and commentaries. He also became a poet in Sanskrit. Childhood Days Sitarama Anjaneyulus childhood is worth recalling in the context of his spiritual background. He was born into a Smartha family bearing the name Tangirala, of Apasthamba sutra, Krishna Yajur sakha, Kutsasa gotra, living in Alugumallepadu village in Palnadu area of Guntur, on the banks of river Naguleru. He was born on April 11, 1951 as a result of long prayer and vrata (fast) by his father Venkateshwara Avadhani and mother Ananthalakshmamma. Venkateshwara Avadhani had studied the Vedas , though learning English was the current fashion. The pious couple desired very much to have a son after begetting four daughters. Avadhani used to wake up early in the morning, bathe in the river and worship Lord Bhavani Shankara, the local deity, with Rudrabhishekha. This he did for a year. He also used to perform Sri Rama Navaratrotsava. He took a vow to name his child after Sita and Rama if his wish was fulfilled. The Lords Shankara and Rama were kind to him. He was blessed with a son. For her part Smt.Anantalakshmamma had sought Lord Anjaneyas favour and promised to name the male child born to her Anjaneyulu. Hence the infant was named Sitarama Anjaneyulu. Sitarama Anjaneyulu even at the age of three evinced signs of great devotion towards the Gods. The name of Lord Shiva was on his lips constantly. During his boyhood days he used to forget himself worshipping the Lord. Outside school hours, he always devoted time to Sanskrit studies. By the time he was nine, he had considerable command over the language. He was aware of its subtleties. Scholars and poets, including the Kavi Samrat Sri Viswanatha Satyanarayana, praised him for his eloquence. He won a number of prizes and was invited by All India Radio Vijayawada to participate in Sanskrit programmes. At night, he learnt the Vedas from his father. He studied Samhita,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Catholic priests have been molesting girls too, for a long, long time. In Avignon, I found an off-duty guide at the Papal Palace there who agreed to take me into the palace when it was closed, and who showed me things that they aren't allowed to show to the tourists. For example, the secret passageways and staircases that lead from the Pope's bedroom to the bedrooms of his mistresses. Plural intentional.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions. Off topic, but how can John have minions when I have none? I try to treat minions really well and I can't keep a single one. (am I scaring them away with my Sex-on-demand rules for minions poster?) For a manual on the stalking of and subsequent care and feeding of minions, check out Christopher Moore's latest novel, You Suck: A Love Story. Tommy and Jody are new vampires. They fall asleep at sunrise and don't wake up until sunset, so they need someone to run errands for them during the day. So they find a 19-year-old Goth girl named Abby Normal and make her their minion. It's just to die for; whole chapters are written in the form of Abby writing in her Journal. Very, very funny stuff. Thanks for confirming who you are: a closet-Satanist.. Closets are for pussies. Satan and I party down. Actually, were Satan a real being, I have no doubt that he'd be *much* more fun to party down with than Jesus or Mohammed or any of those saints we read about in stories of India and Tibet. The exceptions, of course, are the weirdass guys like Padmasambhava and Ikkyu and the Sixth Dalai Lama and Chogyam Trungpa and the other spiritual teachers who were pretty much off the map. THEY would be fun to party down with. But the holy guys, give me a break. What kinda stories have THEY got to tell when they get a few pints in them?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--Thanks, Satan is a real being, as real as you, me, Jesus, Bush; etc;...without going into the question of the real substance of things, in essense, if a brilliant holographic image of a person appears in your dream, totally, (almost) blasting you out of your bed, at the very least, such an experience is in a wholly different category than an ordinary dream, or even an ordinary lucid dream. I had such an experience with the Man...yes, Satan himself, on Aug 12, 1998; but I also had an analogous (i.e. comparable in intensity) experience of witnessing the Radiant Form of Jesus on July 17-th, 1996. While the experience of 7-17-96 (the 100-th Anniversary to the day of Ramana Maharshi's Enlightenment...7-17-96) was the most totally mind-blowing episode of my life; it can't compare to my experience with Satan on 8-12-98. Although I'm not at liberty to reveal the message he gave me, I will reveal one astounding vision. In the distance, I saw what appeared to be a Cross (as in the Crucifixion of Jesus); but upon closer examination, it indeed was a type of Crucifix, but numerous couples were entwined on it , not...in a state of suffering...but rather in sexual coupling. They reminded me of one of those snake pits, where the male and female snakes get together in a special place and do their thing. In terms of brilliance, my Satan experience didn't compare to the brilliant Light of Jesus; and in fact seemed to be a type of reflected light, simultaneously emitting a cool darkness as well as a borrowed light. In addition, Satan appeared as an ordinary guy, somewhat like Jeff Bridges wearing a corduroy jacket. Since that time I've had several telepathic communications with Satan. For a time, I called him Lucifer since Satan has evil connotations. He contacted me through telepathy and told me not to call him Lucifer. He prefers Satan. At any rate, he is no longer doing evil, but rather rescuing Souls from the lower astral. Needless to say, those rescued Souls are not gaining entrance into the Jesus Heaven. The Satan Heaven is populated by millions (even billions) of Souls who have no particular interest in being devoted to other entities, or those who are only lukewarm in their own religions commitments. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions. Off topic, but how can John have minions when I have none? I try to treat minions really well and I can't keep a single one. (am I scaring them away with my Sex-on-demand rules for minions poster?) For a manual on the stalking of and subsequent care and feeding of minions, check out Christopher Moore's latest novel, You Suck: A Love Story. Tommy and Jody are new vampires. They fall asleep at sunrise and don't wake up until sunset, so they need someone to run errands for them during the day. So they find a 19-year-old Goth girl named Abby Normal and make her their minion. It's just to die for; whole chapters are written in the form of Abby writing in her Journal. Very, very funny stuff. Thanks for confirming who you are: a closet-Satanist.. Closets are for pussies. Satan and I party down. Actually, were Satan a real being, I have no doubt that he'd be *much* more fun to party down with than Jesus or Mohammed or any of those saints we read about in stories of India and Tibet. The exceptions, of course, are the weirdass guys like Padmasambhava and Ikkyu and the Sixth Dalai Lama and Chogyam Trungpa and the other spiritual teachers who were pretty much off the map. THEY would be fun to party down with. But the holy guys, give me a break. What kinda stories have THEY got to tell when they get a few pints in them?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually, were Satan a real being, I have no doubt that he'd be *much* more fun to party down with than Jesus or Mohammed or any of those saints we read about in stories of India and Tibet. That's Satan's job, of course, to be more appealing than the good guys.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Google Alert - amritanandamayi
I personally am for raising animal living conditions. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Google Alert - amritanandamayi An example of the kind of stuff Amma does. She was talking about this one time here in FF, but was too preoccupied with the tsunami, and couldn’t get to it. Now it appears she has. These farmers are committing suicide because they are owned by loan sharks, sometimes for generations. Google News Alert for: amritanandamayi Amma donates Rs200 cr http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1085141 to curb farmer suicides Daily News Analysis - Mumbai,India In the city to spread her message of peace and love, Mata Amritanandamayi or Amma has embraced the woeful lot of Maharashtras suicidal farmers. ... http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp%3FNewsID%3D1085141 See all stories on this topic Maharashtra http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?slug=Maharashtra+CM+seeks+spiritual+helpid=102199category=National CM seeks spiritual help NDTV.com - New Delhi,India A popular spiritual leader from the south, Mata Amritanandamayi, visited the CM on Thursday to discuss the issue of farmer suicides. ... http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp%3Fslug%3DMaharashtra%2BCM%2Bseeks%2Bspiritual%2Bhelp%26id%3D102199%26category%3DNational See all stories on this topic
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ffia1120 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Nabby, corruption has been going on for a long time. Catholic priests have been molesting boys, as has Sai Baba. Other saints have been hitting on the women. Not all do these things, and not all do them to the same degree. Idealism is a laudable quality, but you seem determined to preserve a rosy vision of things, no matter how much evidence conflicts with it. In my opinion, this is not a healthy attitude, nor is it honest, nor is it realistic. Catholic priests have been molesting girls too, for a long, long time. True, and probably many Catholics were in denial about this for a long time, until it became undeniable. Thats where Nabby is at with regard to Hindu religious leaders. Im not saying that anyone accused of anything by anyone must be guilty of it. Surely there are many false accusations. But not all accusations are false, and to insist that they are, because you dont want to abandon some rosy image of the way you would like things to be, is naïve.
[FairfieldLife] Chicago to Fairfield to Chicago
Need a ride to Fairfield from Chicago? Ohare Chicago airport to Fairfield date: 19 March 2007 time: around 5pm place: Ohare Airport wanted: extra person to share gas etc. and rental fee (around $50 each). no need to share driving. Fairfield to Chicago Needed - ride to Chicago Midway Airport date: 28 March 2007 time: early morning. Around 8 or 9am Willing to drive you all the way if you have a car. if you don't , then need someone to help pay for rental (around $50) and gas (around $15). contact or message me at 641 233 8021 _ Also need a place to stay for few nights. From 22-28 March 2007 please let me know if you have a room.. hopefully your house is near the domes , but anywhere is ok. Will not invade your space. Just need a place to rest. Willing to pay. contact or message me at 641 233 8021 __ GPS for rent Do you have a working GPS device for rent for a few days March 17-March 20? Willing to pay let me know contact or message me at 641 233 8021 regards p2
[FairfieldLife] need a place to stay - sidha
I need a place to stay from 22-28 March in Fairfield. Preferably near domes. I Am a sidha attending the invincibility course. just need a room. will not intrude your space. just a place to sleep at night. please contact me if you have a space and at what cost. thanks pete
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Witness Chronology; Now Gospel Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I regard TM as having saved my life. The issue for me is that M's shady side casts doubt on the validity of many things he has said. I used to take his word as the gospel truth, because he was enlightened, and by his definition, the enlightened could do no wrong. Compare your situation to that of George W Bush, who was an alcoholic loser until he was saved by Jesus. That experience truly seemed to help get him off alcohol and improve his life. I've known a few tm teachers who also struggled with alcohol problems until they had a similar being saved experience with Jesus. So that experience can save a person's life if they're really struggling, but does that mean that the whole evangelical belief system is gospel truth not to be questioned? What evangelical belief system? That's the beauty of TM- all you really have to do with TM is use the mantra as instructed. That's it. There is a lot of information and speculation surrounding the technique, like where it comes from and what it means, but that doesn't mean an evangelical belief system needs to be adopted, or even questioned, in order to practice TM correctly. Any belief system, thought to be valid or not, can just be ignored during the successful practice of TM. Other than the mechanical practice, everything else is optional.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:05 PM, qntmpkt wrote: --I doubt that you'll be able to collect any dirt on Ramana Maharshi. He's impeccable as to moral standardsin the same category as Guru Dev. The only dirt on Ramana is that HE IS DIRT. He's dead. Long gone. My impression of Ramana (having watched his DVD) is that he was an average yogi with a semi-extraordinary life who just happened to awaken at a time when communication systems allowed him to jump to worldwide notoriety. Don't get me wrong, I like Ramana, but in the larger picture he was just a realizer showing up at the right place at the right time. There were hundreds or thousands of realizers we never, ever heard about. He had good interdependent supporting factors. Sadly now his legacy is used support various neo-advaitins. The only with problem Ramana and other dead advaitins is how they are misappropriated by current sadhakas as rationales for their own look at me, I'm enlightened schemes. Not that that was ever anything Ramana supported, but 'dead Ramana' plays poster boy for alotta Pseudo-advaitins who are hangin'out their satsang shingle at Ramana's expense. It's like this poor guy's corpse is hauled out every now and then when someone wants to use him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions. Off topic, but how can John have minions when I have none? I try to treat minions really well and I can't keep a single one. (am I scaring them away with my Sex-on-demand rules for minions poster?) For a manual on the stalking of and subsequent care and feeding of minions, check out Christopher Moore's latest novel, You Suck: A Love Story. Tommy and Jody are new vampires. They fall asleep at sunrise and don't wake up until sunset, so they need someone to run errands for them during the day. So they find a 19-year-old Goth girl named Abby Normal and make her their minion. It's just to die for; whole chapters are written in the form of Abby writing in her Journal. Very, very funny stuff. Thanks for confirming who you are: a closet-Satanist.. Closets are for pussies. Satan and I party down. Actually, were Satan a real being, I have no doubt that he'd be *much* more fun to party down with than Jesus or Mohammed or any of those saints we read about in stories of India and Tibet. The exceptions, of course, are the weirdass guys like Padmasambhava and Ikkyu and the Sixth Dalai Lama and Chogyam Trungpa and the other spiritual teachers who were pretty much off the map. THEY would be fun to party down with. But the holy guys, give me a break. What kinda stories have THEY got to tell when they get a few pints in them? I think Satan would start out as a cool guy to party with, but then he'd just start being a jerk, like drinking all your beer, borrowing cash and not returning it, starting little fires in your house, stealing stuff from you, shit like that...so I'll save myself the trouble and not party with him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote: Catholic priests have been molesting girls too, for a long, long time. In Avignon, I found an off-duty guide at the Papal Palace there who agreed to take me into the palace when it was closed, and who showed me things that they aren't allowed to show to the tourists. For example, the secret passageways and staircases that lead from the Pope's bedroom to the bedrooms of his mistresses. Plural intentional. I heard it was because they didn't have cable back then...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:05 PM, qntmpkt wrote: --I doubt that you'll be able to collect any dirt on Ramana Maharshi. He's impeccable as to moral standardsin the same category as Guru Dev. The only dirt on Ramana is that HE IS DIRT. Heard you the first time: Welcome to the world of mud, largely perceived thru mud lenses.
[FairfieldLife] Can dead Gurus kick ass?
-bdlow: Vaj says Ramana is dead and the neo-Advaitins have created a type of pseudo-religion. Vaj, for once, I agree with most of your statements; and in corroboration, I will offer up a profound statement of Adi Da: Dead Gurus don't kick ass. (an interesting twist on the elder Bush's famous statement). The real question, though, is...: is the statement TRUE? No. Don't have time to go into this in detail, except to say that I've had two extremely powerful inner plane experiences with Ramana; and in support of an opposing viewpoint, much circumstantial evidence points to his being MORE powerful being dead than prior to his physical death in 1950. For example, in the tape Sage of Arunachala, the very last few frames, people are shown leaving Sri Ramanasramam in 1950 after he died. Then the narrator continues by saying that after a brief period had elapsed, people realized that his Presence was not only undiminished, but rather, He (and associated murtis like the Arunachala Hill and the Temple); became MORE powerful with time. The growing numbers of Neo-Advaitins tend to magnify his power, even though only a few of them are still devoted to Ramana. To conclude, Ramana is FAR more powerful than most living Gurus, say Chogyal Namkhai Rinpoche. Also, Guru Dev (SBS) still lives every time a puja is done. His Shakti is probably far more powerful now than in 1957. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:05 PM, qntmpkt wrote: --I doubt that you'll be able to collect any dirt on Ramana Maharshi. He's impeccable as to moral standardsin the same category as Guru Dev. The only dirt on Ramana is that HE IS DIRT. He's dead. Long gone. My impression of Ramana (having watched his DVD) is that he was an average yogi with a semi-extraordinary life who just happened to awaken at a time when communication systems allowed him to jump to worldwide notoriety. Don't get me wrong, I like Ramana, but in the larger picture he was just a realizer showing up at the right place at the right time. There were hundreds or thousands of realizers we never, ever heard about. He had good interdependent supporting factors. Sadly now his legacy is used support various neo-advaitins. The only with problem Ramana and other dead advaitins is how they are misappropriated by current sadhakas as rationales for their own look at me, I'm enlightened schemes. Not that that was ever anything Ramana supported, but 'dead Ramana' plays poster boy for alotta Pseudo-advaitins who are hangin'out their satsang shingle at Ramana's expense. It's like this poor guy's corpse is hauled out every now and then when someone wants to use him.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Disgust?
In a message dated 3/16/2007 12:24:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shauca (purity) is one of the niyamas (YS II 32). According to II 40 shaucaat svaanga-jugupsaa.sh Taimni's translation: From physical purity (arises) disgust for one's own body... How do you experience that (possible) disgust? Alistair Shearer translation: II 40 Simplicity destroys identification with the body, and brings freedom from contact with other bodies. II 41: Purity of mind, cheerfulness, mastery of the senses, one-pointedness and fitness for Self-realization follow. Tom Sounds like another Indian saint who can't handle a woman. Lsoma. ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Witness Chronology; Now Gospel Truth
In a message dated 3/16/2007 12:37:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@WBRyahoogr FairfieldLife@ FairOn Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@ Fairfie Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Witness Chronology; Now Gospel Truth --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I regard TM as having saved my life. The issue for me is that M's shady side casts doubt on the validity of many things he has said. I used to take his word as the gospel truth, because he was enlightened, and by his definition, the enlightened could do no wrong. Compare your situation to that of George W Bush, who was an alcoholic loser until he was saved by Jesus. That experience truly seemed to help get him off alcohol and improve his life. I've known a few tm teachers who also struggled with alcohol problems until they had a similar being saved experience with Jesus. So that experience can save a person's life if they're really struggling, but does that mean that the whole evangelical belief system is gospel truth not to be questioned? I agree. That’s why I question the whole TM belief system. George Bush was saved by Jesus. Wow!!! I think he needs to be saved again as he continues to murder people with his I know it all attitude. Maybe some TM might calm him down or a pretty girl with garter belts and fishnet stockings. Regardless if it is Jesus or the pretty girl, it may be the only thing that gets his mind off of Iraq. Lsoma. ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think Satan would start out as a cool guy to party with, but then he'd just start being a jerk, like drinking all your beer, borrowing cash and not returning it, starting little fires in your house, stealing stuff from you, shit like that...so I'll save myself the trouble and not party with him. Or perhaps he remains the perfect host, keeping the party so entertaining that it never occurs to you to wonder whether there might be a *better* party going on upstairs. Reminds me of a standout episode of the otherwise late and unlamented TV drama Touched by an Angel, in which Mandy Patinkin plays a Satan figure who tempts the lead angel character with life as a human, complete with adoring husband and kiddies, which she can have if she renounces her faith in God and her angel status. (It's really well done; Patinkin underplays brilliantly. There's a YouTube clip from the episode. If anybody's interested, I'll get the URL.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can dead Gurus kick ass?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -bdlow: Vaj says Ramana is dead and the neo-Advaitins have created a type of pseudo-religion. Vaj, for once, I agree with most of your statements; and in corroboration, I will offer up a profound statement of Adi Da: Dead Gurus don't kick ass. (an interesting twist on the elder Bush's famous statement). The real question, though, is...: is the statement TRUE? No. Don't have time to go into this in detail, except to say that I've had two extremely powerful inner plane experiences with Ramana; and in support of an opposing viewpoint, much circumstantial evidence points to his being MORE powerful being dead than prior to his physical death in 1950. For example, in the tape Sage of Arunachala, the very last few frames, people are shown leaving Sri Ramanasramam in 1950 after he died. Then the narrator continues by saying that after a brief period had elapsed, people realized that his Presence was not only undiminished, but rather, He (and associated murtis like the Arunachala Hill and the Temple); became MORE powerful with time. The growing numbers of Neo-Advaitins tend to magnify his power, even though only a few of them are still devoted to Ramana. To conclude, Ramana is FAR more powerful than most living Gurus, say Chogyal Namkhai Rinpoche. Also, Guru Dev (SBS) still lives every time a puja is done. His Shakti is probably far more powerful now than in 1957. Good points.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip I think Satan would start out as a cool guy to party with, but then he'd just start being a jerk, like drinking all your beer, borrowing cash and not returning it, starting little fires in your house, stealing stuff from you, shit like that...so I'll save myself the trouble and not party with him. Or perhaps he remains the perfect host, keeping the party so entertaining that it never occurs to you to wonder whether there might be a *better* party going on upstairs. Reminds me of a standout episode of the otherwise late and unlamented TV drama Touched by an Angel, in which Mandy Patinkin plays a Satan figure who tempts the lead angel character with life as a human, complete with adoring husband and kiddies, which she can have if she renounces her faith in God and her angel status. (It's really well done; Patinkin underplays brilliantly. There's a YouTube clip from the episode. If anybody's interested, I'll get the URL.) Bedazzled is the best movie on Satan I've seen, and hilarious!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Disgust?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/16/2007 12:24:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shauca (purity) is one of the niyamas (YS II 32). According to II 40 shaucaat svaanga-jugupsaa.sh Taimni's translation: From physical purity (arises) disgust for one's own body... How do you experience that (possible) disgust? Alistair Shearer translation: II 40 Simplicity destroys identification with the body, and brings freedom from contact with other bodies. II 41: Purity of mind, cheerfulness, mastery of the senses, one-pointedness and fitness for Self-realization follow. Tom Sounds like another Indian saint who can't handle a woman. Lsoma. Look, what I found! Whoa! (Everybody else has prolly found those lång agå...) http://www.sanskrit-sanscrito.com.ar/english/appendixes/astaangayoga.html#II36toII42 ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can dead Gurus kick ass?
On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:36 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: -bdlow: Vaj says Ramana is dead and the neo-Advaitins have created a type of pseudo-religion. Vaj, for once, I agree with most of your statements; and in corroboration, I will offer up a profound statement of Adi Da: Dead Gurus don't kick ass. (an interesting twist on the elder Bush's famous statement). The real question, though, is...: is the statement TRUE? Depends on the guru and the style of realization they had. Most advaitin realizers will transfer to one of the Brahma-lokas on death of the physical body. The downside of course: they're still in samsara, just a much nicer place than kali-yuga Earth. Even if they happen to make it farther into Arupadhatu, or the formless world, they're still on the wheel. Do these type of beings visit dreamers on Earth? This is the question we need to honestly ask ourselves. No. Don't have time to go into this in detail, except to say that I've had two extremely powerful inner plane experiences with Ramana; and in support of an opposing viewpoint, much circumstantial evidence points to his being MORE powerful being dead than prior to his physical death in 1950. Of course, that depends on whether or not your dream image of Ramana IS Ramana in some dream guise or whether or not it is a karmic fabrication of Ramana from your own karmic traces: a karmic dream vs. a real dream of clarity. Did you know anything of Ramana before he appeared in your dream? It all boils down to whether or not we have the spiritual maturity to discriminate between a karmic dream fabricated from our own traces or from an actual samadhic dream. And of course if it appeared in a dream and was something we liked, we naturally want to assume it is something real (Ramana visitng us). But *was* it? For example, in the tape Sage of Arunachala, the very last few frames, people are shown leaving Sri Ramanasramam in 1950 after he died. Then the narrator continues by saying that after a brief period had elapsed, people realized that his Presence was not only undiminished, but rather, He (and associated murtis like the Arunachala Hill and the Temple); became MORE powerful with time. The growing numbers of Neo-Advaitins tend to magnify his power, even though only a few of them are still devoted to Ramana. To conclude, Ramana is FAR more powerful than most living Gurus, say Chogyal Namkhai Rinpoche. Also, Guru Dev (SBS) still lives every time a puja is done. His Shakti is probably far more powerful now than in 1957. Is it guru Dev (or Ramana) or is it merely the morphogenetic field, the standing wave left behind? And what is the difference? In general the only types of realizers that you are likely to have authentic contact with are Light Body realizers IMO. In such a case, all you have to ask is did they leave a carcass behind? If the answer is yes, then you might want to consider what it is that was in your dream. .02 USD
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
Jonathan Chadwick wrote: The guy you are refering to is... Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal So, Jonathan, what did Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal say that dissed the Maharishi? And what did Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal say about the Shankaracharya that's out on bail on murder charges? Are you or Vaj saying that Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal has time to diss the Maharishi but no time to make a comment on the Swmai that's out on bail on murder charges? And why would Vaj post a comment about Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal dissing the Maharishi, but not post any comments about the Shankaracharya that's out on bail on murder charges? Vaj wrote: I would of thought the Shankaracharya of the South dissing Mahesh as a phony would've dislodged most TB fingernails... You mean the Shankaracharya of the South that's out on bail on a murder charge?
[FairfieldLife] the self-arisen primordial state
Note: forwarded message attached. - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.---BeginMessage--- Title: Snow Lion Publications Newsletter Dharma Quote of the Week An inexpressible, self-arisen expanse Without the names "samsara" and "nirvana." Here, "self-arisen" means the primordial state. It is not something we can fully express with words or concepts. It's beyond words or concepts. The nature of all is not biased; it is not restricted to one or another. The nature of all exists in one identical state. That ground, that nature, does not have any name such as samsara or nirvana. That is the foundation, that is the ground. It is beyond samsara and nirvana. Not knowing the ground means wandering in samsara. If you recognize this ground, if you truly experience this ground, buddhahood is attained. That is the fruition. That is the result of our practice and our path. ...The ground, that fundamental state of simplicity, is the origin of all elaborations. This pure basic state is like a simple artist's canvas. We paint different images on this canvas. We can paint the image of a buddha, and it becomes very pure, beautiful, and inspiring to look at. We can also paint a devil on the same canvas, which can create our fundamental suffering, our basic pain. However, the basis of both is the same simple state of canvas that is completely pure and totally free from the images we project on it. It is totally free, whether that image is a buddha or a devil. That is the origin. --from Penetrating Wisdom: The Aspiration of Samantabhadra by the Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, published by Snow Lion Publications * * * * * * NEWS: March 10 is Declared Tibet Day in Wisconsin State--Wisconsin Governor Proclaims March 10 as Tibet Day Read the Full News Story and Governor's Proclamation SNOW LION PUBLICATIONS is dedicated to the preservation of Tibetan Buddhism and culture by publishing books about this great tradition. Tibetan culture is seriously endangered in its homeland and is striving to continue outside of Tibet. To support this effort, in addition to publishing and distributing books, Snow Lion offers a wide range of dharma items, purchased primarily from Tibetans in exile. These include visual art and ritual objects, statues and thangkas, videos, traditional music, and many gift items offered through our webstore and newsletter--over 2000 items--the largest selection anywhere. To browse the complete list go towww.snowlionpub.comand select any of the categories in left-hand margin. When you choose to purchase from Snow Lion you are directly supporting the large effort to publish more Buddhist texts and help the Tibetan people.THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. You are receiving this announcement from Snow Lion Publications because you have previously subscribed on our website. To continue receiving messages, we recommend that you add [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your address book. If you'd like to change or cancel your subscription, please visit our subscription pages at www.snowlionpub.com/pages/lists.php, www.snowlionpub.com/pages/unsubscribe.php,or email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that these announcements are also available in plain text, if you are having trouble receiving them. PENETRATING WISDOM:The Aspiration of Samantabhadraby the Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche more... Contact Us: N. America:(800) 950-0313 Worldwide:(607) 273-8519 By Mail: PO Box 6483, Ithaca, NY 14851 USA By Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the Web: www.snowlionpub.com New Items Available Online: New Books New Dharma Items On Sale! Gifts 2007 Calendars General Catalog: www.snowlionpub.com Sign Up: Receive Snow Lion's Weekly Quotes, Announcements, or Quarterly "Snow Lion Buddhist News Catalog" at the List Management Center. Snow Lion Publications is happy to send you a weekly
[FairfieldLife] Sakyamuni Buddha says the product must be tested!
Note: forwarded message attached. - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.---BeginMessage--- Title: Snow Lion Publications Newsletter Dharma Quote of the Week Buddha traveled and taught widely for some forty-five years after his enlightenment, and his audiences were diverse. Even though India at the time was a highly literate society, nothing of what he said was written down during his lifetime. Instead, various individuals were entrusted with memorizing the gist of each discourse. The work of transcribing his words took place only with the passage of generations. Tibetans believe that this reluctance on the part of the Buddha and his immediate followers to commit the enlightenment teachings to paper, and instead to preserve them as oral traditions, was a purposeful strategy gauged to maintain the maximum fluidity and living power of the enlightenment experience. It only became necessary to write things down when the darkness of the changing times threatened the very survival of the legacy. An oral tradition becomes lost to history should its holders pass away without first passing on their lineages. This intended fluidity, and the according safeguard against the establishment of an "enlightenment dogma" is perhaps best demonstrated by a verse that the Buddha himself said shortly before his death: Do not accept any of my words on faith, Believing them just because I said them. Be like an analyst buying gold, who cuts, burns, And critically examines his product for authenticity. Only accept what passes the test By proving useful and beneficial in your life. This simple statement empowered future generations of Buddhist teachers to accept and reject at will anything said by Buddha himself as well by his early disciples. If something that was said by them did not pass the test of personal analysis, one could simply discard it as being limited in application to particular times, people, or situations, and therefore as only contextually valid. --from The Dalai Lamas on Tantra, translated, edited and introduced by Glenn H. Mullin, published by Snow Lion Publications SNOW LION PUBLICATIONS is dedicated to the preservation of Tibetan Buddhism and culture by publishing books about this great tradition. Tibetan culture is seriously endangered in its homeland and is striving to continue outside of Tibet. To support this effort, in addition to publishing and distributing books, Snow Lion offers a wide range of dharma items, purchased primarily from Tibetans in exile. These include visual art and ritual objects, statues and thangkas, videos, traditional music, and many gift items offered through our webstore and newsletter--over 2000 items--the largest selection anywhere. To browse the complete list go towww.snowlionpub.comand select any of the categories in left-hand margin. When you choose to purchase from Snow Lion you are directly supporting the large effort to publish more Buddhist texts and help the Tibetan people.THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. You are receiving this announcement from Snow Lion Publications because you have previously subscribed on our website. To continue receiving messages, we recommend that you add [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your address book. If you'd like to change or cancel your subscription, please visit our subscription pages at www.snowlionpub.com/pages/lists.php, www.snowlionpub.com/pages/unsubscribe.php,or email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that these announcements are also available in plain text, if you are having trouble receiving them. THE DALAI LAMAS ON TANTRAtranslated, edited and introduced byGlenn H. Mullin more... Contact Us: N. America:(800) 950-0313 Worldwide:(607) 273-8519 By Mail: PO Box 6483, Ithaca, NY 14851 USA By Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the Web: www.snowlionpub.com New Items Available Online: New Books New Dharma Items On Sale! Gifts
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can dead Gurus kick ass?
--Vaj, you're attempting to divert attention from the real by creating strawmen and bringing up practically unattainable goals. For one thing, Gurus who have attained a Rainbow Light Body are exceedingly rare, and I challenge you to bring up instances in which they regularly appear in people's dreams. OTOH, countless people have experienced the Shakti of MMY, SBS, and Ramana Maharshi. True, SBS and RM didn't attain Rainbow Light bodies, but we accept the benefits given to us, in whatever form is most appropriate for time and circumstance. Fine, if you want to restrict your devotion to Rainbow Gurus, you may have to wait a long time. It's highly unlikely your own Guru Chogyal Namkhai Rinpoche will acquire one. He will rot in the grave like the others. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:36 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: -bdlow: Vaj says Ramana is dead and the neo-Advaitins have created a type of pseudo-religion. Vaj, for once, I agree with most of your statements; and in corroboration, I will offer up a profound statement of Adi Da: Dead Gurus don't kick ass. (an interesting twist on the elder Bush's famous statement). The real question, though, is...: is the statement TRUE? Depends on the guru and the style of realization they had. Most advaitin realizers will transfer to one of the Brahma-lokas on death of the physical body. The downside of course: they're still in samsara, just a much nicer place than kali-yuga Earth. Even if they happen to make it farther into Arupadhatu, or the formless world, they're still on the wheel. Do these type of beings visit dreamers on Earth? This is the question we need to honestly ask ourselves. No. Don't have time to go into this in detail, except to say that I've had two extremely powerful inner plane experiences with Ramana; and in support of an opposing viewpoint, much circumstantial evidence points to his being MORE powerful being dead than prior to his physical death in 1950. Of course, that depends on whether or not your dream image of Ramana IS Ramana in some dream guise or whether or not it is a karmic fabrication of Ramana from your own karmic traces: a karmic dream vs. a real dream of clarity. Did you know anything of Ramana before he appeared in your dream? It all boils down to whether or not we have the spiritual maturity to discriminate between a karmic dream fabricated from our own traces or from an actual samadhic dream. And of course if it appeared in a dream and was something we liked, we naturally want to assume it is something real (Ramana visitng us). But *was* it? For example, in the tape Sage of Arunachala, the very last few frames, people are shown leaving Sri Ramanasramam in 1950 after he died. Then the narrator continues by saying that after a brief period had elapsed, people realized that his Presence was not only undiminished, but rather, He (and associated murtis like the Arunachala Hill and the Temple); became MORE powerful with time. The growing numbers of Neo-Advaitins tend to magnify his power, even though only a few of them are still devoted to Ramana. To conclude, Ramana is FAR more powerful than most living Gurus, say Chogyal Namkhai Rinpoche. Also, Guru Dev (SBS) still lives every time a puja is done. His Shakti is probably far more powerful now than in 1957. Is it guru Dev (or Ramana) or is it merely the morphogenetic field, the standing wave left behind? And what is the difference? In general the only types of realizers that you are likely to have authentic contact with are Light Body realizers IMO. In such a case, all you have to ask is did they leave a carcass behind? If the answer is yes, then you might want to consider what it is that was in your dream. .02 USD
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: And with an even lower level of integrity than John Knapp and his minions. Off topic, but how can John have minions when I have none? I try to treat minions really well and I can't keep a single one. (am I scaring them away with my Sex-on-demand rules for minions poster?) For a manual on the stalking of and subsequent care and feeding of minions, check out Christopher Moore's latest novel, You Suck: A Love Story. Tommy and Jody are new vampires. They fall asleep at sunrise and don't wake up until sunset, so they need someone to run errands for them during the day. So they find a 19-year-old Goth girl named Abby Normal and make her their minion. It's just to die for; whole chapters are written in the form of Abby writing in her Journal. Very, very funny stuff. Thanks for confirming who you are: a closet-Satanist.. Ha! You don't know half the story. I saw his file that the Illuminati keeps on him. The horror! The horror! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Catholic priests have been molesting girls too, for a long, long time. In Avignon, I found an off-duty guide at the Papal Palace there who agreed to take me into the palace when it was closed, and who showed me things that they aren't allowed to show to the tourists. For example, the secret passageways and staircases that lead from the Pope's bedroom to the bedrooms of his mistresses. Plural intentional. Which pope are you talking about? Sometimes you remind me of a spiritual Forrest Gump. Maharishi, Rama, Castaneda, the Pope.. You were there.
[FairfieldLife] Anything is possible: (MMY)
Including the Ain Soph Aur Accretion disk. http://www.tinyurl.com/2dpva7
[FairfieldLife] Spiritually hot in FF, Navaratri Celebrations
FW Sri Devi Mandir Navaratri Celebration March 20 - 27, 2007 During Navaratri, the Divine Mother is worshipped in Her three main forms as Sri Saraswati, Sri Lakshmi Devi, and Sri Durga Devi. All three major forms of Devi bestow their most abundant grace during Navaratri. Thus, any meritorious acts performed during Navaratri bring every kind of blessing, including true devotion, spiritual wisdom, divine protection, inner peace, and radiant energy. Join us for yagnyas for world peace, protection and prosperity Tuesday, March 20 - Friday, March 23 8:30 am - 12:30 pm Rudra Abhishek Divine Mother Puja Chanting of Chandi Path - 700 slokas of Divine Mother 7 pm - 8:30 pm Mother Divine Puja Lalitha Sahasranama Chanting Saturday, March 24 Rudra Abhishek 8:30 am - 1 pm 9 Planet Navagraha Homa Chandi Homa (short version) 7 pm - 8:30 pm Mother Divine Puja Lalitha Sahasranama Chanting Sunday, March 25 and Monday, March 26 8:30 am - 12:30 pm Rudra Abhishek Divine Mother Puja Chanting of Chandi Path 7 pm - 8:30 pm Mother Divine Puja Lalitha Sahasranama Chanting Tuesday, March 27 8:30 am - 12:30 pm Rudra Abhishek Divine Mother Puja Chanting of Chandi Path 7 pm - 9 pm Lalitha Sahasranama Chanting Lord Rama Puja celebrating Lord Rama's birthday Special Yagnyas/Pujas in your home, office or at the temple NAVARATRI SPONSORSHIP Morning or evening programs at FF Devi Mandir Temple All events are free and open to the public Please bring fruit and flowers Sri Devi Mandir 800 West Burlington, Fairfield, IA 641- 469-6041 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sri Devi Mandir is a non profit 501(c)(3) organization. All donations are tax-deductible to the fullest extent allowable by law
[FairfieldLife] St. Joseph of Cupertino, the Levitating Saint
The other monks became so desperate to keep his peculiar traits under control that early on lead weights were chained to his ankles to try to keep him from levitating during Mass. He is the patron saint of pilots and all who take air transportation. Cool saint! under entry on St. Simeon Stylites, at: http://www.tinyurl.com/yt283d
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
- Avignon...one Pope in France and another in Rome, each supported by certain Catholic Saints. St. Catherine of Siena (a levitating Saint), wanted Pope Gregory VI to return to Rome from Avignon. http://op.org/domcentral/trad/stcather.htm -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote: Catholic priests have been molesting girls too, for a long, long time. In Avignon, I found an off-duty guide at the Papal Palace there who agreed to take me into the palace when it was closed, and who showed me things that they aren't allowed to show to the tourists. For example, the secret passageways and staircases that lead from the Pope's bedroom to the bedrooms of his mistresses. Plural intentional. Which pope are you talking about? Sometimes you remind me of a spiritual Forrest Gump. Maharishi, Rama, Castaneda, the Pope.. You were there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVen so, it's decidedly odd behavior: celibate (one assumes) for a good long while voluntarily, then not, then again. I'm sure we have no idea what monkey business MMY was up to. Remember that hot little number in Hermit in the House who came over and immediately took over the wifely duties of cooking and cleaning for him? As far as people trying to keep young willy in time out, I think quite a few posters here gave it a whirl for extended (no pun intended) periods, only to decide that they must free willy (pun intended)! Thanks for the heads up Curtis. And yes, thank you too Judy. Free Willy...Lives Under A Bridge...yes, I get it.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does Tom Anderson call himself Sudarsha? Why take a name other than our birth name? What's the importance to the individual of doing so? Dunno Jim. Why did Mahesh take the name Maharishi.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote: Catholic priests have been molesting girls too, for a long, long time. In Avignon, I found an off-duty guide at the Papal Palace there who agreed to take me into the palace when it was closed, and who showed me things that they aren't allowed to show to the tourists. For example, the secret passageways and staircases that lead from the Pope's bedroom to the bedrooms of his mistresses. Plural intentional. Which pope are you talking about? The handful that lived in the palace in the 14th century, when the papacy was horrendously corrupt. (Not that it's never been corrupt again since it moved back to Rome toward the end of the century, but this period was a low point.)
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MMY's hairdresser told me (1973) that he accidently walked by MMY's open door at a course in India; and he was in a sexual embrace with a female. sparig wrote: And what kind of door was it in a place where you could glance through it? I thought the huts in Rishikesh were kinda semi-underground? And how could MMY have been in India in 1973 at the same time that he was at La Antilla, Spain TTC? This guy gets more amazing every hour - invisible sex acts for decades, remote appearing acts, amazing sexual energy at 3:00 AM in the morning AND a hairdresser! Rick Archer wrote: He didn't say the incident happened in 1973. He said the hairdresser told him this in 1973. What was the hairdresser doing in a sexual embrace with a female in front of an MMY's open door in India?
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...surely there's a defintion of what TM is and what a TMer is - it's just common sense, that you'd define what it is that you're talking about, so we could agree on some basics. That's my point, but nobody seems to be able to say what, exactly, a TMer is supposed to be. And who gets to pronounce who is and who isn't a TMer anyway? peterklutz wrote: You have already given a clear definition of what a TMer is. Twice. Regressus ad absurdam. Saying that a TMer is somone who practices TM is circular logic. What, exactly, is TM, Peter? It's a very simple question. Why is it so difficult for you to give me a simple answer? I can see now why you got kicked off Wiki - you can't even define basics. And who gets to pronounce who is and who isn't a TMer anyway?
[FairfieldLife] Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--HA HA!. No. The Hairdresser was walking by MMY's room. The door to MMY's room was ajar, allowing the hairdresser to witness the going's on in the room: namely, MMY and a female were having sex. The Hairdresser and I both worked at SIMS in L.A. and he told me the above in 1973; but I can't recall exactly when the supposed event occurred.(just sometime before). Therefore, your objection that the incident was bogus because MMY couldn't have been in 3 places at once, doesn't hold water. If the Popes can be in two places at once: Avignon and Rome, then the Mahareeshee can be in three places at once. What I'm wondering about is why, in view of a growing mountain of circumstantial evidence, one would turn a blind eye to the truth, unless it's truthiness you're after (what you want to be true). The real question is, what is the implication of all of this, given such incidents are true? Does it suggest anything, other than a healthy libido? Personally, I believe so, since MMY led people to believe he was celibate. That's like a Scooter Libby lie. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY's hairdresser told me (1973) that he accidently walked by MMY's open door at a course in India; and he was in a sexual embrace with a female. sparig wrote: And what kind of door was it in a place where you could glance through it? I thought the huts in Rishikesh were kinda semi-underground? And how could MMY have been in India in 1973 at the same time that he was at La Antilla, Spain TTC? This guy gets more amazing every hour - invisible sex acts for decades, remote appearing acts, amazing sexual energy at 3:00 AM in the morning AND a hairdresser! Rick Archer wrote: He didn't say the incident happened in 1973. He said the hairdresser told him this in 1973. What was the hairdresser doing in a sexual embrace with a female in front of an MMY's open door in India?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...surely there's a defintion of what TM is and what a TMer is - it's just common sense, that you'd define what it is that you're talking about, so we could agree on some basics. That's my point, but nobody seems to be able to say what, exactly, a TMer is supposed to be. And who gets to pronounce who is and who isn't a TMer anyway? peterklutz wrote: You have already given a clear definition of what a TMer is. Twice. Regressus ad absurdam. Saying that a TMer is somone who practices TM is circular logic. What, exactly, is TM, Peter? It's a very simple question. Why is it so difficult for you to give me a simple answer? I can see now why you got kicked off Wiki - you can't even define basics. And who gets to pronounce who is and who isn't a TMer anyway? TM is form of meditation taught by HH MMY, or by teachers trained by him. TMers come from many walks of life and may even include Texan IQ-seagull morons needing two hours each each day just to put their stetsons on the correct way.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls MMY's hairdresser told me (1973) that he accidently walked by MMY's open door at a course in India; and he was in a sexual embrace with a female. sparig wrote: And what kind of door was it in a place where you could glance through it? I thought the huts in Rishikesh were kinda semi-underground? And how could MMY have been in India in 1973 at the same time that he was at La Antilla, Spain TTC? This guy gets more amazing every hour - invisible sex acts for decades, remote appearing acts, amazing sexual energy at 3:00 AM in the morning AND a hairdresser! Rick Archer wrote: He didn't say the incident happened in 1973. He said the hairdresser told him this in 1973. What was the hairdresser doing in a sexual embrace with a female in front of an MMY's open door in India? As I understand this story, MMY was in the sexual embrace, not the hairdresser. The latter was the observer, not the participant.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sinhlnx Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --HA HA!. No. The Hairdresser was walking by MMY's room. The door to MMY's room was ajar, allowing the hairdresser to witness the going's on in the room: namely, MMY and a female were having sex. The Hairdresser and I both worked at SIMS in L.A. and he told me the above in 1973; but I can't recall exactly when the supposed event occurred.(just sometime before). Therefore, your objection that the incident was bogus because MMY couldn't have been in 3 places at once, doesn't hold water. If the Popes can be in two places at once: Avignon and Rome, then the Mahareeshee can be in three places at once. What I'm wondering about is why, in view of a growing mountain of circumstantial evidence, one would turn a blind eye to the truth, unless it's truthiness you're after (what you want to be true). The real question is, what is the implication of all of this, given such incidents are true? Does it suggest anything, other than a healthy libido? Personally, I believe so, since MMY led people to believe he was celibate. That's like a Scooter Libby lie. What do you think the implication is?
*****SPAM***** [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls MMY's hairdresser told me (1973) that he accidently walked by MMY's open door at a course in India; and he was in a sexual embrace with a female. sparig wrote: And what kind of door was it in a place where you could glance through it? I thought the huts in Rishikesh were kinda semi-underground? And how could MMY have been in India in 1973 at the same time that he was at La Antilla, Spain TTC? This guy gets more amazing every hour - invisible sex acts for decades, remote appearing acts, amazing sexual energy at 3:00 AM in the morning AND a hairdresser! Rick Archer wrote: He didn't say the incident happened in 1973. He said the hairdresser told him this in 1973. What was the hairdresser doing in a sexual embrace with a female in front of an MMY's open door in India? As I understand this story, MMY was in the sexual embrace, not the hairdresser. The latter was the observer, not the participant. I've heard the story before, but no-one has explained to me why MMY had a hairdresser...
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:09 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls MMY's hairdresser told me (1973) that he accidently walked by MMY's open door at a course in India; and he was in a sexual embrace with a female. sparig wrote: And what kind of door was it in a place where you could glance through it? I thought the huts in Rishikesh were kinda semi-underground? And how could MMY have been in India in 1973 at the same time that he was at La Antilla, Spain TTC? This guy gets more amazing every hour - invisible sex acts for decades, remote appearing acts, amazing sexual energy at 3:00 AM in the morning AND a hairdresser! Rick Archer wrote: He didn't say the incident happened in 1973. He said the hairdresser told him this in 1973. What was the hairdresser doing in a sexual embrace with a female in front of an MMY's open door in India? As I understand this story, MMY was in the sexual embrace, not the hairdresser. The latter was the observer, not the participant. I've heard the story before, but no-one has explained to me why MMY had a hairdresser... He did have his hair and beard trimmed, so presumably we're referring to the guy who did that.
[FairfieldLife] Inner Circle Breakout on Girls
-Thanks, (sorry, I can't mention the Hairdresser's name); but in any event, he was MMY's official barber; but individual's persona impressed me more as fitting into the category of Hairdresser. The term just fits better. Besides, he was no simple barber. He was an expert, working on both men and women. I think he also cut Jerry's hair; maybe he even worked on Debbie's. It's been a while but there's no doubt about the facts the Hairdresser conveyed to me. He was quite serious. I might add that I promised the Hairdresser I'd absolutely tell no one what he said. Looks like I lied!. 10 slashes with a wet noodle. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Re: Inner Circle Breakout on Girls MMY's hairdresser told me (1973) that he accidently walked by MMY's open door at a course in India; and he was in a sexual embrace with a female. sparig wrote: And what kind of door was it in a place where you could glance through it? I thought the huts in Rishikesh were kinda semi-underground? And how could MMY have been in India in 1973 at the same time that he was at La Antilla, Spain TTC? This guy gets more amazing every hour - invisible sex acts for decades, remote appearing acts, amazing sexual energy at 3:00 AM in the morning AND a hairdresser! Rick Archer wrote: He didn't say the incident happened in 1973. He said the hairdresser told him this in 1973. What was the hairdresser doing in a sexual embrace with a female in front of an MMY's open door in India? As I understand this story, MMY was in the sexual embrace, not the hairdresser. The latter was the observer, not the participant. I've heard the story before, but no-one has explained to me why MMY had a hairdresser...
[FairfieldLife] TM vs drugs, a 1969 study
I googled one of the dudes who got me into TM: Tom Winquist, along with Keith Wallace, back in the late 60's. Winquist's name came up in association with Dr. Benson's study in which he claimed astounding results in getting people off of drugs, since the transcendental experience was so appealing!. What's really so astounding is the naivate among such researchers in having high but misquided hopes that TM would be a viable antidote to people's drug problems. The drug situation is 10X worse now and still no effective solution. Then, in 1970 Tom was my group leader at the Humboldt Course. I thought it most unusual why he would question and then mock me in front of the group for getting initiated into Eckankar. (the required form asked what other programs people were involved in). Looks like I was the naive one - my first experience with organizational blacklisting. I was temporarily forgiven but was eventually fired at SIMS for talking about other Gurus. No problem though, it's all part of the learning curve. Here's the excerpt from the web: Several years ago, Dr. Herbert Benson of the Harvard Medical School and Thorndike Memorial Laboratory, Boston City Hospital, trained monkeys to control their own blood pressure, and wondered whether a technique known as transcendental meditation might not similarly lower the blood pressure of humans. To find out, he brought into the laboratory twenty young male volunteers aged twenty-one to thirty- eight, all of whom practiced this techniques simple routine of sitting quietly and pondering in a prescribed manner for fifteen or twenty minutes twice a day. In talking with these men about their drug use, Dr. Benson turned up facts so astounding that he reported them in a 1969 letter to the editor of the New England Journal of Medicine. Nineteen of the twenty volunteers told Dr. Benson that they had used drugs marijuana, barbiturates, LSD, amphetamines, and in several cases heroin before taking up transcendental meditation. Since they had begun meditating, however, all [nineteen] reported that they no longer took these drugs because drug-induced feelings had become exceedingly distasteful as compared to those experiences during the practice of transcendental meditation. Perhaps, he added, transcendental meditation should be explored prospectively by others... primarily interested in the alleviation of drug abuse. 11 In the same year a graduate student in psychology at the University of California at Los Angeles, Thomas Winquist, prepared a report entitled The Effect of the Regular Practice of Transcendental Meditation on Students Involved in the Regular Use of Hallucinogenic and Hard' Drugs. Winquist questioned 484 students ' who had been practicing transcendental meditation regularly for a minimum of three consecutive months. Out of the 484, he identified 143 (30 percent) who had been regular drug users and who reported the following changes in their drug use following their adoption of transcendental meditation: [etc...more baloney].
