[FairfieldLife] Re: Sicko debuts at Cannes to thunderous applause

2007-05-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   I haven't seen it, of course, but given recent
   discussions of the cost and quality of health care
   here, it seems an apt time to remind you that I pay
   not several hundred dollars a month for my health
   insurance, but 320 Euros *per year*. 
 
 Of course you pay for it through taxes, its not really almost 
 free. I pay about $30/month, via corporate plan, that covers 
 virually everyting. So its about the same end-suer cost as you. 
 And my my plan pays the rest, so in essence, I am paying for 
 it via lower salary as are you (after french medical taxes  
 are takn out.) 

I pay no medical taxes in France, only a fixed rate 
on salary. What the government uses it for I don't
know, but unlike a French employee (I'm a consultant)
I do not contribute directly to the health care system. 
In your case, if you are an employee, the company you
work for pays the bulk of the cost of your corporate 
plan. The company I work for does not, and yet my 
policy costs less than yours. 

 I am not debating national vs corporate health care, just 
 pointing out that the end-user costs are similar. 

Mine is a private policy. As I thought I said quite
clearly, I am not covered by the French national 
system. A company sells me a health care policy 
for 320 Euros a month hoping to turn a *profit* on
it at that price, given the cost of providing health
care for someone my age for a year in France. 

My whole point is that the actual COSTS of providing
health care are lower here. They have not been allowed
to spiral out of control due to greed.

   An hour-long visit
   to the doctor costs me 20 Euros. 
 
 Mine costs $5. You are getting ripped off. :)

I wrote sloppily. ALL of the 20 Euros are reim-
bursed by my insurance company. The point I was
trying to make is that the doctor's visit COSTS
20 Euros. It would cost that if I had NO health
insurance. That's the difference between France
and the US. No one becomes a doctor to get them-
selves a Mercedes and a big house; they go into
the field because they want to help people.

 I spent a day at emergency room recently for something 
 (nothing major), had 4-5 expensive tests including a cat 
 scan, was seen by 4 doctores, and it cost me $0.

But what would it have cost you if you DIDN'T have
health insurance? That was my point. My bet is that
in France the cost of those services would have been
less than one-tenth of what they would be in the US.

You're being ripped off, and yet you seem to be trying 
to defend those who are ripping you off. Is this a TM-
related thang or just an American thang?  :-)  :-)  :-)

   Drugs you pay $100
   a bottle for I pay less than 10 Euros a bottle for;
   same prescription, same manufacturer, very different 
   price.
 
 I pay $10/ 3 month prespcription, thus 7 per month. 
 Again the french seem to be ripping you off. :) 

And again, I'm talking about the actual cost of the 
drugs, NOT what gets reimbursed. Same drugs, same
manufacturer, same prescription, and if you *didn't*
have health insurance that reimbursed you for the 
drugs, you'd be paying ten times what I am for them. 
If you're not getting ripped off personally because 
of a health policy that covers the drugs, the health 
policy issuer is getting ripped off. My point is that
the drugs don't have to cost that much. THAT is 
the ripoff.

   The state of health care in America is a crime. 
 
 Clearly a credible claim by someone who has not lived 
 here for 3 + years.

Clearly a whine by someone who doesn't want to admit
how bad things are in the US with regard to health 
care. :-)

45 million of your fellow Americans have NO health 
care coverage, because they can't afford it. That 
could not happen in France, or in most civilized 
countries on the planet. They would not allow that 
to happen to their fellow citizens. Americans would, 
and do.

The problem is GREED, pure and simple. Greed on the
part of the health care industry and greed on the part
of the people who think paying lower taxes themselves
is more important than providing a system that takes
care of the less fortunate in their own country. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sicko debuts at Cannes to thunderous applause

2007-05-21 Thread TurquoiseB
Correction.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am not debating national vs corporate health care, just 
  pointing out that the end-user costs are similar. 
 
 Mine is a private policy. As I thought I said quite
 clearly, I am not covered by the French national 
 system. A company sells me a health care policy 
 for 320 Euros a month hoping to turn a *profit* on
 it at that price, given the cost of providing health
 care for someone my age for a year in France. 

That should have been 320 Euros a YEAR. Sorry.





[FairfieldLife] Sanskrit versions of suutras?

2007-05-21 Thread cardemaister

Anyone know, where one could find the Sanskrit
versions of the TM-Sidhi suutras?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit versions of suutras?

2007-05-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Anyone know, where one could find the Sanskrit
 versions of the TM-Sidhi suutras?



To to:

http://www.google.com/translate_t

Type in the words you want to translate in the box.

Select English to Sanskrit from the pull-down menu.

Click on Translate.



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Abraham -- a former visiting
 faculty member at MIU (MUM). As Abraham explains, he brings a wealth
 of information from two decades of experience within the TM Org:
 
 
I
 first learned TM in 1971 as a 17 year-old college student and
 subsequently practiced it twice a day for 22 years. After graduating
 from college, 
I
 studied in Europe for six months to become a TM
 teacher and taught TM full-time, initiating over 250 people into the
 practice. 
I
 attended many advanced programs and became a TM Governor
 after learning the TM-Sidhi program. 
I
 have also been a visiting
 faculty member at Maharishi International University in Fairfield,
 Iowa. Because 
I
 still have friends in the TM organization and because
 of 
my
 current professional visibility, 
I
 choose to remain anonymous.
 For the most part, 
I
 had positive experiences with TM, which is why 
I

 kept up the practice for as long as 
I
 did. Nevertheless, in 1993,
 after years of inner conflict, 
I
 decided to stop practicing TM and
 quietly left the TM movement because 
I
 could no longer continue in
 good conscience. 
I 
had come to see 
 
Interesting lesson in the ME, I, MY practise. When even after 22 
years some people are still so obsessed with their small selves 
something is seriously wrong with the followup of the practise.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit versions of suutras?

2007-05-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  
  Anyone know, where one could find the Sanskrit
  versions of the TM-Sidhi suutras?
 
 
 
 To to:
 
 http://www.google.com/translate_t
 
 Type in the words you want to translate in the box.
 
 Select English to Sanskrit from the pull-down menu.
 
 Click on Translate.


Whoa! Thanks! Lots of surprises there... :D




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sicko debuts at Cannes to thunderous applause

2007-05-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Correction.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
   I am not debating national vs corporate health care, just 
   pointing out that the end-user costs are similar. 
  
  Mine is a private policy. As I thought I said quite
  clearly, I am not covered by the French national 
  system. A company sells me a health care policy 
  for 320 Euros a month hoping to turn a *profit* on
  it at that price, given the cost of providing health
  care for someone my age for a year in France. 
 
 That should have been 320 Euros a YEAR. Sorry.

Just a further comment, and one that spreads the
GREED blame around a bit, it isn't just the health
care professionals and the drug companies that keep
the costs high in the US; it's the lawyers. I've
read articles in France that point out that it costs
the average M.D. in America over 100K per year for
malpractice insurance. In France it costs them 5K.

Bottom line is still GREED, whether it's manifested
as greedy drug companies and HMOs and individual
doctors, of greedy ambulance chasers and their clients.

As with Edg and his rants about the environment and
our shared responsibility for the trashbin that our
planet has become, these days I'm interested in a 
fairly fundamental measure of a human being's 
humanity -- how much does he or she care about the
rest of society or the rest of the world -- the
least of us, to use Christ's phrase. What is he or
she willing to do or sacrifice so that his or her
fellow humans -- all of them, no matter how poor --
can be provided with a minimum level of food, 
clothing, shelter, and health care?

THAT indicates the level of a person's evolution to
me, not whether he or she is witnessing of having 
good experiences spiritually or how good a spiritual
game the person talks. It's the walk that indicates
spirituality, not the talk.






[FairfieldLife] Dandelion and yffing!

2007-05-21 Thread cardemaister

I guess some of us might be familiar with the bitter taste of
dandelion-latex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandelion

A couple of months back I had the worst flu for years. It started
in such a manner, that everything I put into my mouth, tasted
mainly like the latex of dandelion. That bitter taste of anything
put into my mouth lasted for several weeks. 

Until this morning most everything has tasted quite normal for a 
couple of weeks now. 

Yesterday morning did a part of the siddhis program first time
for quite a while. This morning did those suutras that I think
I know in Sanskrit, including Flying for which I have my own
Sanskrit version, sort of. (That version of mine is based
on the original suutra, whereas the TM-version[?] I've seen
seems to be based partly on the YogasuutrabhaaSya of Vyaasa.)

And guess what happened! The bitter taste returned, but fortunately
only as a diluted version.  :0

What gives? 



[FairfieldLife] Next

2007-05-21 Thread TurquoiseB
If you're looking for a film that walks that
fine line between guy stuff (e.g., blowing
things up and car chases) and chick flicks
(sappy love stories), with a soupçon of psychic
powers thrown in, I can recommend the new film
Next. Nicolas Cage plays a guy who can see
into the future, although usually only two 
minutes into the future. He is recruited 
against his will by the FBI to help them track
down some terrorists who have an atomic weapon
they're about to set off in L.A.

The way it treats the quandary of seeing the
future is interesting for a mainstream movie,
more subtle than most, and might be enjoyed by
people here. Although the film is full of plot
holes and silliness, it's entertaining. The
ending leaves you wondering what's...Next...
so my bet is that it's being set up as a 
franchise for Cage.





[FairfieldLife] OT posts from YF-hypomanic Card: Bond, but not James!

2007-05-21 Thread cardemaister

http://animalliberationfront.com/News/AnimalPhotos/Animals_11-
20/RhinoGoatBuddies.htm



[FairfieldLife] Re: OT posts from YF-hypomanic Card: Bond, but not James!

2007-05-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 http://animalliberationfront.com/News/AnimalPhotos/Animals_11-
 20/RhinoGoatBuddies.htm


http://tinyurl.com/2qy8p4



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sicko debuts at Cannes to thunderous applause

2007-05-21 Thread new . morning
Thanks for the clarifications.

I am not a big fan of American health system. I am quite aware of many
shortcomings, and have been a critic of them. Uncapped lawsuits are
one as you point out in an adjacent post. 

The point of my post was specifically countering your cost points
(some perhaps my misunderstanding, others your mistatements. That is
those covered by good employer plans pay similar to you. Period. That
was the extent of my post. Some people seem to read much more into
such posts than is on the page. My post was in no way a broad defense
of the American health system.

On the broader point, of raw costs without insurance, I agree, they
are quite harsh (for dental also). As with pharms. (Though Walmart has
500 drugs for $4/ presciption.) 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   TurquoiseB wrote:
   
I haven't seen it, of course, but given recent
discussions of the cost and quality of health care
here, it seems an apt time to remind you that I pay
not several hundred dollars a month for my health
insurance, but 320 Euros *per year*. 
  
  Of course you pay for it through taxes, its not really almost 
  free. I pay about $30/month, via corporate plan, that covers 
  virually everyting. So its about the same end-suer cost as you. 
  And my my plan pays the rest, so in essence, I am paying for 
  it via lower salary as are you (after french medical taxes  
  are takn out.) 
 
 I pay no medical taxes in France, only a fixed rate 
 on salary. What the government uses it for I don't
 know, but unlike a French employee (I'm a consultant)
 I do not contribute directly to the health care system. 
 In your case, if you are an employee, the company you
 work for pays the bulk of the cost of your corporate 
 plan. The company I work for does not, and yet my 
 policy costs less than yours. 
 
  I am not debating national vs corporate health care, just 
  pointing out that the end-user costs are similar. 
 
 Mine is a private policy. As I thought I said quite
 clearly, I am not covered by the French national 
 system. A company sells me a health care policy 
 for 320 Euros a month hoping to turn a *profit* on
 it at that price, given the cost of providing health
 care for someone my age for a year in France. 
 
 My whole point is that the actual COSTS of providing
 health care are lower here. They have not been allowed
 to spiral out of control due to greed.
 
An hour-long visit
to the doctor costs me 20 Euros. 
  
  Mine costs $5. You are getting ripped off. :)
 
 I wrote sloppily. ALL of the 20 Euros are reim-
 bursed by my insurance company. The point I was
 trying to make is that the doctor's visit COSTS
 20 Euros. It would cost that if I had NO health
 insurance. That's the difference between France
 and the US. No one becomes a doctor to get them-
 selves a Mercedes and a big house; they go into
 the field because they want to help people.
 
  I spent a day at emergency room recently for something 
  (nothing major), had 4-5 expensive tests including a cat 
  scan, was seen by 4 doctores, and it cost me $0.
 
 But what would it have cost you if you DIDN'T have
 health insurance? That was my point. My bet is that
 in France the cost of those services would have been
 less than one-tenth of what they would be in the US.
 
 You're being ripped off, and yet you seem to be trying 
 to defend those who are ripping you off. Is this a TM-
 related thang or just an American thang?  :-)  :-)  :-)
 
Drugs you pay $100
a bottle for I pay less than 10 Euros a bottle for;
same prescription, same manufacturer, very different 
price.
  
  I pay $10/ 3 month prespcription, thus 7 per month. 
  Again the french seem to be ripping you off. :) 
 
 And again, I'm talking about the actual cost of the 
 drugs, NOT what gets reimbursed. Same drugs, same
 manufacturer, same prescription, and if you *didn't*
 have health insurance that reimbursed you for the 
 drugs, you'd be paying ten times what I am for them. 
 If you're not getting ripped off personally because 
 of a health policy that covers the drugs, the health 
 policy issuer is getting ripped off. My point is that
 the drugs don't have to cost that much. THAT is 
 the ripoff.
 
The state of health care in America is a crime. 
  
  Clearly a credible claim by someone who has not lived 
  here for 3 + years.
 
 Clearly a whine by someone who doesn't want to admit
 how bad things are in the US with regard to health 
 care. :-)
 
 45 million of your fellow Americans have NO health 
 care coverage, because they can't afford it. That 
 could not happen in France, or in most civilized 
 countries on the planet. They would not allow that 
 to happen to their fellow citizens. Americans would, 
 and do.
 
 The problem is GREED, pure and simple. Greed on 

[FairfieldLife] noise is no barrier...

2007-05-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18780937/

Swarms of cicadas emerging in Midwest
Bllions expected after spending the past 17 years underground

I don't know if Fairfield is one of the places they will hit in Iowa
but this is one of the most interesting natural events I have seen in
Virginia.  Totally harmless and straight from Mars.  I am not a bug
person, but these guys are fascinating!



[FairfieldLife] Re: US State Senate session opens with Vedic chants

2007-05-21 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/government-news-a.html?art=117932649027667

The state here is nevada.  I assume the chant had something to do with
Lakshmi bestowing her blessings at the slots and crap tables.



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread taskcentered
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  Abraham -- a former visiting
  faculty member at MIU (MUM). As Abraham explains, he brings a wealth
  of information from two decades of experience within the TM Org:
  
  
 I
  first learned TM in 1971 as a 17 year-old college student and
  subsequently practiced it twice a day for 22 years. After graduating
  from college, 
 I
  studied in Europe for six months to become a TM
  teacher and taught TM full-time, initiating over 250 people into the
  practice. 
 I
  attended many advanced programs and became a TM Governor
  after learning the TM-Sidhi program. 
 I
  have also been a visiting
  faculty member at Maharishi International University in Fairfield,
  Iowa. Because 
 I
  still have friends in the TM organization and because
  of 
 my
  current professional visibility, 
 I
  choose to remain anonymous.
  For the most part, 
 I
  had positive experiences with TM, which is why 
 I
 
  kept up the practice for as long as 
 I
  did. Nevertheless, in 1993,
  after years of inner conflict, 
 I
  decided to stop practicing TM and
  quietly left the TM movement because 
 I
  could no longer continue in
  good conscience. 
 I 
 had come to see 
  
 Interesting lesson in the ME, I, MY practise. When even after 22 
 years some people are still so obsessed with their small selves 
 something is seriously wrong with the followup of the practise.


Just for interest's sake, can you explain your concern about the first-person 
pronoun? I is 
just a word that refers to oneself. Even in enlightenment the concept of the 
small-s self 
remains. Do you really believe you can judge another's consciousness by his use 
of the 
pronoun I? To my knowledge, even the Maharishi uses the word.

John M. Knapp, LMSW
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
http://trancenet.net/

[A] bad guru can be extremely good
for a sincere devotee….
It's the main reason so many bad gurus
do good business. They are merely idols
upon which sincere devotees project
their own divinity, with sometimes
seemingly miraculous results.
--Jody R, Guruphiliac.blogspot.com





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit versions of suutras?

2007-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
cardemaister wrote:
 Anyone know, where one could find the Sanskrit
 versions of the TM-Sidhi suutras?

'Yoga Sutras of Patanjali'
Sanskrit and Devangiri
http://mumpress.com/p_d07.html

Other titles of interest:

'Learn Sanskrit In 30 Days'
By Vidavisarada

21st Century Books
108 W. Broadway, Suite 100
Fairfield, Iowa 52556 U.S.A.
http://www.21stbooks.com/




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit versions of suutras?

2007-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
  Anyone know, where one could find the Sanskrit
  versions of the TM-Sidhi suutras?
 
Shemp Mcgurk wrote: 
 To to:
 
 http://www.google.com/translate_t
 
 Type in the words you want to translate in the box.
 
 Select English to Sanskrit from the pull-down menu.
 
 Click on Translate.

Uh, Shemp, I guess first you'd need to know which are 
the TM-Sidhi suutras. Maybe you could key in bum hopping
in the box, or maybe yogic flying.




RE: [FairfieldLife] noise is no barrier...

2007-05-21 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:44 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] noise is no barrier...

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18780937/

Swarms of cicadas emerging in Midwest
Bllions expected after spending the past 17 years underground

I don't know if Fairfield is one of the places they will hit in Iowa
but this is one of the most interesting natural events I have seen in
Virginia. Totally harmless and straight from Mars. I am not a bug
person, but these guys are fascinating!

There was one of these in the DC area the year that Irene stayed at your
house. She was staying at the Markowitz's when the bugs emerged.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 Pretty ugly presidency if you ask me.

Jimmy who? The worst ex-President in U.S. history.

My remarks were maybe careless or misinterpreted, but I 
wasn't comparing the overall administration, and I 
certainly was not talking personally about any president.

Full story:

'The former president backs down from criticism of the 
White House'
TODAY Show May 21, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18781703/

Carter and Brzezinski presided over our greatest setback 
ever in the Middle East, the rise of a fundamentalist 
Islamic regime in Iran, which they basically invited by 
signaling their lack of support for the Shah knowing that 
his strongest enemies were fundamentalist clerics. 

They also presided over and basically invited a Communist 
takeover in Nicaragua.

Another remarkable instance grew out of Carter's strong 
opposition to the use of force to reverse the Iraqi 
occupation of Kuwait in 1990. Not satisfied with issuing 
a torrent of statements and articles, he dispatched a 
letter to the heads of state of members of the United 
Nations Security Council and several other governments 
urging them to oppose the American request for UN 
authorization of military action. This sounds like the 
words of a traitor to me. 

Under Brzezinski's tutelage, Carter was shocked, betrayed, 
and unprepared when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. 

And who can forget what may be the worst piece of incompetence 
the U.S. has been associated with in its modern history, the 
failed rescue attempt of our hostages in Teheran?

And here are the words of a hypocrite:

Getting rid of Saddam Hussien was a major accomplisment. 
- Jimmy Carter



[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bhairitu wrote:
  Pretty ugly presidency if you ask me.
 
 Jimmy who? The worst ex-President in U.S. history.
 
 My remarks were maybe careless or misinterpreted, but I 
 wasn't comparing the overall administration, and I 
 certainly was not talking personally about any president.
 
 Full story:
 
 'The former president backs down from criticism of the 
 White House'
 TODAY Show May 21, 2007
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18781703/




Willytex is a little careless about crediting
the sources he cuts-and-pastes his posts from.

The following two paragraphs are taken verbatim
from a post on the blog Power Line:

 Carter and Brzezinski presided over our greatest setback 
 ever in the Middle East, the rise of a fundamentalist 
 Islamic regime in Iran, which they basically invited by 
 signaling their lack of support for the Shah knowing that 
 his strongest enemies were fundamentalist clerics. 
 
 They also presided over and basically invited a Communist 
 takeover in Nicaragua.

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010847.php

The next paragraph is taken verbatim--all but
the last sentence--from an article in Commentary:

 Another remarkable instance grew out of Carter's strong 
 opposition to the use of force to reverse the Iraqi 
 occupation of Kuwait in 1990. Not satisfied with issuing 
 a torrent of statements and articles, he dispatched a 
 letter to the heads of state of members of the United 
 Nations Security Council and several other governments 
 urging them to oppose the American request for UN 
 authorization of military action. This sounds like the 
 words of a traitor to me.

http://tinyurl.com/2844uw

And the next two paragraphs are from the Power 
Line post again:

 Under Brzezinski's tutelage, Carter was shocked, betrayed, 
 and unprepared when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. 
 
 And who can forget what may be the worst piece of incompetence 
 the U.S. has been associated with in its modern history, the 
 failed rescue attempt of our hostages in Teheran?

Willytex did write this sentence:

 And here are the words of a hypocrite:
 
 Getting rid of Saddam Hussien was a major accomplisment. 
 - Jimmy Carter




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 Pretty ugly presidency if you ask me.

 
 Jimmy who? The worst ex-President in U.S. history.

   
Taking me out of context, eh?  Pretty ugly presidency refers to Bush 
not Carter.
 My remarks were maybe careless or misinterpreted, but I 
 wasn't comparing the overall administration, and I 
 certainly was not talking personally about any president.

 Full story:

 'The former president backs down from criticism of the 
 White House'
 TODAY Show May 21, 2007
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18781703/

 Carter and Brzezinski presided over our greatest setback 
 ever in the Middle East, the rise of a fundamentalist 
 Islamic regime in Iran, which they basically invited by 
 signaling their lack of support for the Shah knowing that 
 his strongest enemies were fundamentalist clerics. 

 They also presided over and basically invited a Communist 
 takeover in Nicaragua.

 Another remarkable instance grew out of Carter's strong 
 opposition to the use of force to reverse the Iraqi 
 occupation of Kuwait in 1990. Not satisfied with issuing 
 a torrent of statements and articles, he dispatched a 
 letter to the heads of state of members of the United 
 Nations Security Council and several other governments 
 urging them to oppose the American request for UN 
 authorization of military action. This sounds like the 
 words of a traitor to me. 

 Under Brzezinski's tutelage, Carter was shocked, betrayed, 
 and unprepared when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. 

 And who can forget what may be the worst piece of incompetence 
 the U.S. has been associated with in its modern history, the 
 failed rescue attempt of our hostages in Teheran?

 And here are the words of a hypocrite:

 Getting rid of Saddam Hussien was a major accomplisment. 
 - Jimmy Carter
Whatever mistakes Carter made they pale by comparison to the Bush 
administration which is the most corrupt in American history.  He should 
have taken back nothing!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sicko debuts at Cannes to thunderous applause

2007-05-21 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Enjoy Spain, the land of Paz Vega. 
 

 Don't know her, although I am developing a major
 Jones for Maribel Verdú.

   
She was in Spanglish with with Adam Sandler, probably a film you avoided 
because of Sandler but not a bad film by James Brooks.  I wonder who he 
originally had in mind for the role Sandler took?
 Have you seen 10 Item or Less 
 yet?  Great film with Vega and Morgan Freeman and Brad Silberling 
 making up for his bad temple films (that's what he calls them 
 on the extras which are well worth the watch).
 

 I don't know the film, but will definitely look
 for it, because although I have no ideas what
 Silbering's bad temple films might be, he
 directed City Of Angels, which makes him a
 winner in my book. Thanks for the tip.


   
Lemony Snicket was a disaster for Silberling though I was also not as 
impressed with City of Angels as you were.  I liked the original 
better.  I saw City of Angels with my sister and brother-in-law who 
knew Silberling when he dated their best friend's daughter in college.   
They were disappointed too.  I think 10 Items or Less will redeem him 
in their eyes.





[FairfieldLife] Re: noise is no barrier...

2007-05-21 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18780937/
 
 Swarms of cicadas emerging in Midwest
 Bllions expected after spending the past 17 years underground
 
 I don't know if Fairfield is one of the places they will hit
 in Iowa...

Looks to me like we're either on the edge of it or just outside it:

http://birdfreak.com/2007/05/21/brood-xiii-map/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sicko debuts at Cannes to thunderous applause

2007-05-21 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 TurquoiseB wrote:
 
 I haven't seen it, of course, but given recent
 discussions of the cost and quality of health care
 here, it seems an apt time to remind you that I pay
 not several hundred dollars a month for my health
 insurance, but 320 Euros *per year*. 
   

 Of course you pay for it through taxes, its not really almost free.
 I pay about $30/month, via corporate plan, that covers virually
 everyting. So its about the same end-suer cost as you. And my my plan
 pays the rest, so in essence, I am paying for it via lower salary as
 are you (after french medical taxes  are takn out.) I am not debating
 national vs corporate health care, just pointing out that the end-user
 costs are similar. 

   
Try getting a similar plan self-employed.  You can't.  We self-employed 
have to take up  the slack for corporate plans which are often abused.  
When I was a corporate manager I had employees going out to see a doctor 
even they just had the sniffles.  I knew then that such abuse would be 
driving the premiums up.  I get charged a surcharge for being overweight 
and asked my company if they do that for corporate enrollees.  They 
don't.  That is not fair at all.   After all some corporations have 
claimed that high costs for healthcare benefits are driving them out of 
the US.  Perhaps it is really not a bad idea to take away the hidden 
aspects of health insurance from the corporate employee by making it an 
option.  After all if they leave the company the next company's plan 
won't cover any pre-existing conditions.  People should be raging in the 
streets over this.  But they aren't.  The only people who hold large 
protests are the Mexicans over immigration issues or like Bill Maher 
said Mexican do the jobs that Americans won't.

 An hour-long visit
 to the doctor costs me 20 Euros. 
   

 Mine costs $5. You are getting ripped off. :)

 I spent a day at emergency room recently for something (nothing
 major), had 4-5 expensive tests including a cat scan, was seen by 4
 doctores, and it cost me $0.


   
 Drugs you pay $100
 a bottle for I pay less than 10 Euros a bottle for;
 same prescription, same manufacturer, very different 
 price.
   

 I pay $10/ 3 month prespcription, thus 7 per month. 
 Again the french seem to be ripping you off. :) 
   
 The state of health care in America is a crime. 
   

 Clearly a credible claim by someone who has not lived here for 3 + years.
   
 From someone living here he is not off at all.

Newmie, do you work for a health insurance company?  If you're working 
for United Health Care your CEO, William McGuire is ripping you off by 
taking $124.8 million total compensation.  Such are the bandits among 
the Bush cronies.






   



[FairfieldLife] Re: noise is no barrier...

2007-05-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18780937/
 
 Swarms of cicadas emerging in Midwest
 Bllions expected after spending the past 17 years underground
 
 I don't know if Fairfield is one of the places they will hit in Iowa
 but this is one of the most interesting natural events I have seen in
 Virginia.  Totally harmless and straight from Mars.  I am not a bug
 person, but these guys are fascinating!

I remember the last time they swarmed the DC area. Gross but 
fascinating. They were *everywhere*!



[FairfieldLife] Beatles quiz

2007-05-21 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionID=
http://www.beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionID=surveyID=156
surveyID=156 



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread matrixmonitor
--why did you give up TM. What did you replace it with?  Are you SURE 
the replacement is equal to, or better than TM, and why? Thanks.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   Abraham -- a former visiting
   faculty member at MIU (MUM). As Abraham explains, he brings a 
wealth
   of information from two decades of experience within the TM Org:
   
   
  I
   first learned TM in 1971 as a 17 year-old college student and
   subsequently practiced it twice a day for 22 years. After 
graduating
   from college, 
  I
   studied in Europe for six months to become a TM
   teacher and taught TM full-time, initiating over 250 people 
into the
   practice. 
  I
   attended many advanced programs and became a TM Governor
   after learning the TM-Sidhi program. 
  I
   have also been a visiting
   faculty member at Maharishi International University in 
Fairfield,
   Iowa. Because 
  I
   still have friends in the TM organization and because
   of 
  my
   current professional visibility, 
  I
   choose to remain anonymous.
   For the most part, 
  I
   had positive experiences with TM, which is why 
  I
  
   kept up the practice for as long as 
  I
   did. Nevertheless, in 1993,
   after years of inner conflict, 
  I
   decided to stop practicing TM and
   quietly left the TM movement because 
  I
   could no longer continue in
   good conscience. 
  I 
  had come to see 
   
  Interesting lesson in the ME, I, MY practise. When even after 22 
  years some people are still so obsessed with their small selves 
  something is seriously wrong with the followup of the practise.
 
 
 Just for interest's sake, can you explain your concern about the 
first-person pronoun? I is 
 just a word that refers to oneself. Even in enlightenment the 
concept of the small-s self 
 remains. Do you really believe you can judge another's 
consciousness by his use of the 
 pronoun I? To my knowledge, even the Maharishi uses the word.
 
 John M. Knapp, LMSW
 http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
 http://trancenet.net/
 
 [A] bad guru can be extremely good
 for a sincere devotee….
 It's the main reason so many bad gurus
 do good business. They are merely idols
 upon which sincere devotees project
 their own divinity, with sometimes
 seemingly miraculous results.
 --Jody R, Guruphiliac.blogspot.com





[FairfieldLife] American Culture vs. Vedic Culture

2007-05-21 Thread John
To All Members:

By many counts, the US culture does not follow the ideal vedic 
culture.  For example, we eat meat, drink liquor, mix freely with the 
opposite sex, have same sex unions, work for money and career, get 
married primarily to enjoy sex.  In spite of these negatives, the 
American economy is as strong as ever.  That goes to show that the 
Supreme Being is tolerant,  merciful and is willing to grant boons to 
whomever He or She wants.

Regards,

John R.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Next

2007-05-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 If you're looking for a film that walks that
 fine line between guy stuff (e.g., blowing
 things up and car chases) and chick flicks
 (sappy love stories), with a soupçon of psychic
 powers thrown in, I can recommend the new film
 Next. Nicolas Cage plays a guy who can see
 into the future, although usually only two 
 minutes into the future. He is recruited 
 against his will by the FBI to help them track
 down some terrorists who have an atomic weapon
 they're about to set off in L.A.
 
 The way it treats the quandary of seeing the
 future is interesting for a mainstream movie,
 more subtle than most, and might be enjoyed by
 people here. Although the film is full of plot
 holes and silliness, it's entertaining. The
 ending leaves you wondering what's...Next...
 so my bet is that it's being set up as a 
 franchise for Cage.

Sounds like a lot of fun- Cage at his best is just great to watch 
(Face Off, The Rock, The Family Man). I find that what makes 
or breaks movies like this is the overall quality-- of the script, 
the direction, the cinematography, the editing- All of it. When any 
of those elements is flawed, usually the entire production is a 
mess. When they are spot on, the thing crackles with tension and 
life. 

I don't know that I've tried seeing into the future, but an 
interesting attunement has occurred for me regarding the building 
where I work- There are cube farms in large areas off of a 
central, narrow corridor here, with doorways joining the large areas 
to the narrow corridor. 

In order to move quickly into the corridor with confidence that I 
won't bump into anyone, I have focused my sensitivity to spatial 
density, by projecting my attention out the doorway before I enter 
the corridor. It is now second nature, and I can tell with 
certainty, before I can see into the corridor, whether there is 
someone approaching from either the left or the right. 

My spatial density sensitivity is calibrated to only about 10 to 15 
feet in either direction beyond the doorway I am entering, since it 
is both not necessary to see any further left or right up the 
corridor, but also more difficult to determine density further up 
the corridor, and more distracting.

There appears to be a stable, non-ego based area of awareness I've 
discovered over the years, where such tools can be accessed readily. 
Its tricky though because when I first began playing there, I made 
many many errors, not realizing that though I was on a subtler plane 
of perception, my ego was interfering and fooling me. But now that I 
recognize that layer, I've moved beyond it, for these purposes, to 
a quieter area where errors are absent. Cool stuff.

  



[FairfieldLife] Re: American Culture vs. Vedic Culture

2007-05-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All Members:
 
 By many counts, the US culture does not follow the ideal vedic 
 culture.  For example, we eat meat, drink liquor, mix freely with 
the 
 opposite sex, have same sex unions, work for money and career, get 
 married primarily to enjoy sex.  In spite of these negatives, the 
 American economy is as strong as ever.  That goes to show that the 
 Supreme Being is tolerant,  merciful and is willing to grant boons 
to 
 whomever He or She wants.
 
 Regards,
 
 John R.

I didn't see any negatives in what you wrote about our culture... 
Nor do I see a connection between a tolerant, merciful Supreme Being 
and a strong economy. Perhaps what it does indicate is that we as 
Americans are exceedingly resourceful at making money, and are 
generally good folks, and it is the generally good folks part that 
brings the favor of the Supreme Being. 

You are right about the boons part. I found that Mother Meera site 
someone is building- trinity3- very instructive about God, and 
avatars and humans. All the relationships are clearly laid out there.



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread taskcentered
Hi, I'm not sure who you were asking the question of, whether
Abraham, the former MIU faculty member, or myself.

If you wanted to hear from Abraham, I recommend you point your browser
to http://tmfree.blogspot.com/ and add a comment to Abraham's posting,
Breaking up is hard to do. I'm sure he will give you a prompt reply.

As for myself, I gave up TM because of the damage I saw so many of my
fellow Governors were experiencing from the rounding and long
programs, the extraordinary costs of the TM techniques, and because of
the deceit I saw the TM Movement practice -- particularly with regard
to the TM-Sidhis. I have tried a number of meditation techniques since
I quit in 1995. Some seemed better, some not as good as TM. My only
criteria were my subjective experiences of deepness during
meditation and clarity outside of meditation. I choose not to
discuss my personal practice much, however. I feel responsible for
introducing many, many people to TM -- including my family -- through
my proselytizing while a TM teacher. I prefer these days to support
people in whatever spiritual path they feel is most suitable to them
rather than push whatever I am practicing at the moment upon them.

Thanks for your questions,

John M. Knapp, LMSW
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
http://trancenet.net/

[A] bad guru can be extremely good
for a sincere devotee….
It's the main reason so many bad gurus
do good business. They are merely idols
upon which sincere devotees project
their own divinity, with sometimes
seemingly miraculous results.
--Jody R, Guruphiliac.blogspot.com

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --why did you give up TM. What did you replace it with?  Are you SURE 
 the replacement is equal to, or better than TM, and why? Thanks.
 
  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
Abraham -- a former visiting
faculty member at MIU (MUM). As Abraham explains, he brings a 
 wealth
of information from two decades of experience within the TM Org:


   I
first learned TM in 1971 as a 17 year-old college student and
subsequently practiced it twice a day for 22 years. After 
 graduating
from college, 
   I
studied in Europe for six months to become a TM
teacher and taught TM full-time, initiating over 250 people 
 into the
practice. 
   I
attended many advanced programs and became a TM Governor
after learning the TM-Sidhi program. 
   I
have also been a visiting
faculty member at Maharishi International University in 
 Fairfield,
Iowa. Because 
   I
still have friends in the TM organization and because
of 
   my
current professional visibility, 
   I
choose to remain anonymous.
For the most part, 
   I
had positive experiences with TM, which is why 
   I
   
kept up the practice for as long as 
   I
did. Nevertheless, in 1993,
after years of inner conflict, 
   I
decided to stop practicing TM and
quietly left the TM movement because 
   I
could no longer continue in
good conscience. 
   I 
   had come to see 

   Interesting lesson in the ME, I, MY practise. When even after 22 
   years some people are still so obsessed with their small selves 
   something is seriously wrong with the followup of the practise.
  
  
  Just for interest's sake, can you explain your concern about the 
 first-person pronoun? I is 
  just a word that refers to oneself. Even in enlightenment the 
 concept of the small-s self 
  remains. Do you really believe you can judge another's 
 consciousness by his use of the 
  pronoun I? To my knowledge, even the Maharishi uses the word.
  
  John M. Knapp, LMSW
  http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
  http://trancenet.net/
  
  [A] bad guru can be extremely good
  for a sincere devotee….
  It's the main reason so many bad gurus
  do good business. They are merely idols
  upon which sincere devotees project
  their own divinity, with sometimes
  seemingly miraculous results.
  --Jody R, Guruphiliac.blogspot.com
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: American Culture vs. Vedic Culture

2007-05-21 Thread Duveyoung
John,

Just to be a nay sayer, despite my general agreement with you, let me
mention that the rich folks who are living large might be burning off
the last of their good karma while their bad karma mounts.

Whatever a rich person did in past lifetimes to deserve the money is
unknown, but also unknown is what comes for that person in their next
lifetime.  This concept doesn't make for much satisfaction when it
comes to wanting evil to get comeuppance.

But, I've got a theory about that too -- Edg have a theory? -- natch, eh?

I think that everyone is getting their justice in THIS lifetime if one
thinks about how personality is tied to morality.  If you've sinned by
your own standards, it tends to burp up on ya for the rest of your
life.  Try pretending being Donald Trump and looking into the mirror
with your present values. Hard to stomach, yes?

Is Donald happy?

Well, after his divorces and running battles with Rosie, he sure seems
to have some uncomfortable moments, right?  He may be able to pay for
just about any luxury, but when the payment is demanded in currency
that requires other than filthy lucre, he may be poorer than most
people on the planet in that he cannot come up with even a nickel's
worth of humility, and the social cost of that transactional
failure, may be large indeed.  This is just one example of how
everyone's life is jam packed with their personal issues -- I have
never met a person with enough money such that I'd switch lives with
that person and take on their other karma too.

As for Vedic culture in India, well, whatever they did in their past
lifetimes has given them what it is, and, all things considered, I'd
rather have the devil I do know in America.  We may kill millions of
cows, but we don't let a man kill his wife when her dowry runs out.
Seems to balance things, don't it?

Pick a culture, pick a person, pick an era -- it's all bad karma,
right?  Just tarbaby traps, right?  No need to jaw about which might
be slightly better than another -- when the incarnation bell tolls, it
sounds like a funeral dirge to me. 

Edg


s--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All Members:
 
 By many counts, the US culture does not follow the ideal vedic 
 culture.  For example, we eat meat, drink liquor, mix freely with the 
 opposite sex, have same sex unions, work for money and career, get 
 married primarily to enjoy sex.  In spite of these negatives, the 
 American economy is as strong as ever.  That goes to show that the 
 Supreme Being is tolerant,  merciful and is willing to grant boons to 
 whomever He or She wants.
 
 Regards,
 
 John R.





[FairfieldLife] Re: American Culture vs. Vedic Culture

2007-05-21 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All Members:
 
 By many counts, the US culture does not follow the ideal vedic 
 culture.  For example, we eat meat, drink liquor, mix freely with the 
 opposite sex, have same sex unions, work for money and career, get 
 married primarily to enjoy sex.  In spite of these negatives, the 
 American economy is as strong as ever.  That goes to show that the 
 Supreme Being is tolerant,  merciful and is willing to grant boons to 
 whomever He or She wants.
 
 Regards,
 
 John R.

But it sounds like you would agree with jerry falwell that
occasionally the Supreme Being sends terrorists to the US to punish us
for our same sex unions, etc.  You think most americans get married to
enjoy sex??   Most americans go to college to enjoy sex - they get
married for a variety of other emotional reasons.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Next

2007-05-21 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 If you're looking for a film that walks that
 fine line between guy stuff (e.g., blowing
 things up and car chases) and chick flicks
 (sappy love stories), with a soupçon of psychic
 powers thrown in, I can recommend the new film
 Next. Nicolas Cage plays a guy who can see
 into the future, although usually only two 
 minutes into the future. He is recruited 
 against his will by the FBI to help them track
 down some terrorists who have an atomic weapon
 they're about to set off in L.A.

 The way it treats the quandary of seeing the
 future is interesting for a mainstream movie,
 more subtle than most, and might be enjoyed by
 people here. Although the film is full of plot
 holes and silliness, it's entertaining. The
 ending leaves you wondering what's...Next...
 so my bet is that it's being set up as a 
 franchise for Cage.
It got pretty bad reviews so I delegated it to the rental stack or 
whenever it shows up VOD in HD --- for free.



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   Abraham -- a former visiting
   faculty member at MIU (MUM). As Abraham explains, he brings a 
wealth
   of information from two decades of experience within the TM Org:
   
   
  I
   first learned TM in 1971 as a 17 year-old college student and
   subsequently practiced it twice a day for 22 years. After 
graduating
   from college, 
  I
   studied in Europe for six months to become a TM
   teacher and taught TM full-time, initiating over 250 people 
into the
   practice. 
  I
   attended many advanced programs and became a TM Governor
   after learning the TM-Sidhi program. 
  I
   have also been a visiting
   faculty member at Maharishi International University in 
Fairfield,
   Iowa. Because 
  I
   still have friends in the TM organization and because
   of 
  my
   current professional visibility, 
  I
   choose to remain anonymous.
   For the most part, 
  I
   had positive experiences with TM, which is why 
  I
  
   kept up the practice for as long as 
  I
   did. Nevertheless, in 1993,
   after years of inner conflict, 
  I
   decided to stop practicing TM and
   quietly left the TM movement because 
  I
   could no longer continue in
   good conscience. 
  I 
  had come to see 
   
  Interesting lesson in the ME, I, MY practise. When even after 22 
  years some people are still so obsessed with their small selves 
  something is seriously wrong with the followup of the practise.
 
 
 Just for interest's sake, can you explain your concern about the 
first-person pronoun? I is 
 just a word that refers to oneself. Even in enlightenment the 
concept of the small-s self 
 remains. Do you really believe you can judge another's 
consciousness by his use of the 
 pronoun I? To my knowledge, even the Maharishi uses the word.

My Vedic Science, for sure, relating to perpetuating the Knowledge. 
But never Me Maharishi or I want this or that.
You are rather naive if you think a persons language do not give 
clues about someones state of consciousness.

Please no analysis of my language ! :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: noise is no barrier...

2007-05-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
Last time they came here in 2004 in large numbers I was going to try
eating some like the Vietnamese and Thai people do.  You are supposed
to stir-fry the newly emerged ones.  I am always trying to push my
palate further into other culture's food and this was the furthest I
could imagine.  But when I went out and saw them struggling to emerge
and live, mate, I got too caught up in their lives to kill any.  They
have really big eyes and seemed so earnest.  I ended up helping some
who had gotten lost and were going to die on the sidewalk get to a
tree.  The whole thing was really moving.  Every tree was covered and
the sound was amazing.

I might have overridden my don't-eat-bugs phobia, but their intense
struggle to live got to me.  I wouldn't do too well at a
kill-it-yourself farm either I guess.  But I do eat meat so I'm not
above some major hypocrisy in the food department.  I have no trouble
killing fish and would be a regular Josef Mengele if I ever got into a
school of shrimp. I wonder where I would draw the line if I had to do
the dirty deed myself?  

I also didn't save the ones my cats got a hold of.  They are the
ultimate cat toy and some unlucky ones spent a little quality
Guantanamo time with my two little waterboard experts. (the cicadas
never gave up any names, but it was not for lack of demonic ingenuity
from their feline interrogators.  They kept them alive for a long time.)

I see those guys on the travel cooking shows eating bugs all the time,
so in the right context I'm sure I will chow down on bugs someday. 
I'm not in any hurry.  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18780937/
  
  Swarms of cicadas emerging in Midwest
  Bllions expected after spending the past 17 years underground
  
  I don't know if Fairfield is one of the places they will hit
  in Iowa...
 
 Looks to me like we're either on the edge of it or just outside it:
 
 http://birdfreak.com/2007/05/21/brood-xiii-map/





[FairfieldLife] Re: Next

2007-05-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
  If you're looking for a film that walks that
  fine line between guy stuff (e.g., blowing
  things up and car chases) and chick flicks
  (sappy love stories), with a soupçon of psychic
  powers thrown in, I can recommend the new film
  Next. Nicolas Cage plays a guy who can see
  into the future, although usually only two 
  minutes into the future. He is recruited 
  against his will by the FBI to help them track
  down some terrorists who have an atomic weapon
  they're about to set off in L.A.
 
  The way it treats the quandary of seeing the
  future is interesting for a mainstream movie,
  more subtle than most, and might be enjoyed by
  people here. Although the film is full of plot
  holes and silliness, it's entertaining. The
  ending leaves you wondering what's...Next...
  so my bet is that it's being set up as a 
  franchise for Cage.

 It got pretty bad reviews so I delegated it to the rental 
 stack or whenever it shows up VOD in HD --- for free.

That's about right. I got it for free from Limewire,
and it was worth every penny. :-)

As it turns out (I didn't know this when I wrote the
first mini-review), the good ideas in the flick came
from...again...Philip K. Dick, whose story it was
based upon. That said, it wasn't a very good render-
ing of Philip's ideas, but what, other than (perhaps)
Blade Runner, has been? Philip was an over-the-top
crazy, a man with so many ideas running through his
brain that society is still trying to absorb them
all. But they haven't translated to film very well
yet. I'd like to see someone do a good job of Ubik
(his novel based on the Tibetan Book Of The Dead),
or The Man In The High Castle (his novel written
by the I Ching).

I didn't say that it was a good film, merely that
I enjoyed it. I've also enjoyed the hell out of
Plan 9 From Outer Space as well, but that doesn't
mean that I think it's a good film. :-)

It was the nuances of dealing with seeing the
future that got me. They were more subtle than
many other such renderings in cinema, and took
into account the catch-22 of seeing the future.
That is, the moment you see it, you change it.

There are some other good quantum physics moments 
in the film, in which the character, faced with a 
potential set of futures, divides his self into
multiple selves and sets them all off searching
in different directions and in different realities
for the path that resolves itself best. I liked 
that. And, to be perfectly honest, Jessica Biel
was way cute as the Love Interest.

Is it a good flick? No way. Can it be enjoyable
anyway if you just suspend disbelief and have
a good time with it? Way. 

The same can be said about the future itself. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --why did you give up TM. What did you replace it with?  Are you SURE 
 the replacement is equal to, or better than TM, and why? Thanks.
 
Most of the people I know who started TM, especially in the seventies, 
during the Merv period, stopped TM, it's very common.
No biggie.



[FairfieldLife] Invincible America - Summer schedule

2007-05-21 Thread george_deforest
 [Invincible America]  http://invincibleamerica.org/
Summer is coming, and Southeast Iowa is filled with green fields and
flowering bushes, songbirds and gentle breezes.

Students will soon be going home for their summer break. Over 200 rooms
will be vacated and cleaned for new Invincible America participants.

Making up for the drop in student numbers will be especially important
in July — our numbers have yet to stabilize above the 2,000 Super
Radiance requirement and it is vital that we maintain our upward
momentum!

CONSIDER MAKING INVINCIBLE AMERICA
YOUR FAMILY VACATION THIS YEAR!

Summer is a natural time to take a break and enjoy a restful vacation.
Nothing could be more restful than the deep silence, extended program,
and beautiful, sublime experiences shared by the Invincible America
Assembly participants.

Summer fun will available for everyone, including swimming on and near
campus, walking and bike paths, boating and picnic sites nearby, indoor
and outdoor tennis courts, our outdoor Farmer's Market, the monthly
First Fridays Art Walk and Concerts on the Square.

SUMMER INVINCIBILITY CAMP
FOR CHILDREN AGES 5-14
Monday, June 11 — Saturday, August 18

For children, Maharishi School of the Age of Enlightenment will be
offering camp activities to allow parents to participate in the historic
Invincible America Course. With a well-trained staff of counselors,
age-appropriate activities will provide fun and creative summer
enrichment.

Activities will include outdoor sports, swimming, creative crafts,
music, movement, computer labs, and much more. Children who practice
their Word of WisdomSM or Transcendental MeditationSM program will do
their practice with other students.

Guru Purnimah Celebration July 29

The traditional Guru Purnimah celebration to honor the source of Vedic
wisdom takes place on July 29. The Assembly will be connected live with
Maharishi and all the festivities taking place around the world.

Jai Guru Dev



[FairfieldLife] Re: Next

2007-05-21 Thread matrixmonitor
---Still, there's an ongoing challenge for you to predict the stocks, 
or manifest an external siddhi of your choice; something more 
important than (say) communicating with lobsters (feature: help, 
help, don't boil me alive!!).
  On Next, this is based on a novel or short story by the SCI-FI 
genius Philip Dick.  (The Minority Report) was also based on one of 
his stories.
 The basic idea in Next which makes it distinctive (as opposed to a 
similar thriller, Deja Vu) is that there are alternative possible 
futures, and the Cage character gets to try out any of them in 
advance; i.e. the possible future which he personally selects as 
being the most favorable. Then in his mind's eye, he carries out that 
possible future to it's conclusion and if it doesn't work, he tries 
another.  The catch is that the viewer doesn't know which of these 
hypothetical scenaries is going to be the real one - any more than 
the Cage character.
 Also, in one scene, he can bifurcate into multiple bodies and 
explore numerous possible futures all at once.  

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  If you're looking for a film that walks that
  fine line between guy stuff (e.g., blowing
  things up and car chases) and chick flicks
  (sappy love stories), with a soupçon of psychic
  powers thrown in, I can recommend the new film
  Next. Nicolas Cage plays a guy who can see
  into the future, although usually only two 
  minutes into the future. He is recruited 
  against his will by the FBI to help them track
  down some terrorists who have an atomic weapon
  they're about to set off in L.A.
  
  The way it treats the quandary of seeing the
  future is interesting for a mainstream movie,
  more subtle than most, and might be enjoyed by
  people here. Although the film is full of plot
  holes and silliness, it's entertaining. The
  ending leaves you wondering what's...Next...
  so my bet is that it's being set up as a 
  franchise for Cage.
 
 Sounds like a lot of fun- Cage at his best is just great to watch 
 (Face Off, The Rock, The Family Man). I find that what makes 
 or breaks movies like this is the overall quality-- of the script, 
 the direction, the cinematography, the editing- All of it. When any 
 of those elements is flawed, usually the entire production is a 
 mess. When they are spot on, the thing crackles with tension and 
 life. 
 
 I don't know that I've tried seeing into the future, but an 
 interesting attunement has occurred for me regarding the building 
 where I work- There are cube farms in large areas off of a 
 central, narrow corridor here, with doorways joining the large 
areas 
 to the narrow corridor. 
 
 In order to move quickly into the corridor with confidence that I 
 won't bump into anyone, I have focused my sensitivity to spatial 
 density, by projecting my attention out the doorway before I enter 
 the corridor. It is now second nature, and I can tell with 
 certainty, before I can see into the corridor, whether there is 
 someone approaching from either the left or the right. 
 
 My spatial density sensitivity is calibrated to only about 10 to 15 
 feet in either direction beyond the doorway I am entering, since it 
 is both not necessary to see any further left or right up the 
 corridor, but also more difficult to determine density further up 
 the corridor, and more distracting.
 
 There appears to be a stable, non-ego based area of awareness I've 
 discovered over the years, where such tools can be accessed 
readily. 
 Its tricky though because when I first began playing there, I made 
 many many errors, not realizing that though I was on a subtler 
plane 
 of perception, my ego was interfering and fooling me. But now that 
I 
 recognize that layer, I've moved beyond it, for these purposes, 
to 
 a quieter area where errors are absent. Cool stuff.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Invincible America - Summer schedule

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [Invincible America]  http://invincibleamerica.org/
 Summer is coming, and Southeast Iowa is filled with green fields and
 flowering bushes, songbirds and gentle breezes.

And lots and lots of cicadas...





[FairfieldLife] Re: Next

2007-05-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ---Still, there's an ongoing challenge for you to predict the 
 stocks, 
 or manifest an external siddhi of your choice; something more 
 important than (say) communicating with lobsters (feature: help, 
 help, don't boil me alive!!).
   On Next, this is based on a novel or short story by the SCI-FI 
 genius Philip Dick.  (The Minority Report) was also based on one 
 of his stories.
  The basic idea in Next which makes it distinctive (as opposed to a 
 similar thriller, Deja Vu) is that there are alternative possible 
 futures, and the Cage character gets to try out any of them in 
 advance; i.e. the possible future which he personally selects as 
 being the most favorable. Then in his mind's eye, he carries out 
 that 
 possible future to it's conclusion and if it doesn't work, he tries 
 another.  The catch is that the viewer doesn't know which of these 
 hypothetical scenaries is going to be the real one - any more than 
 the Cage character.
  Also, in one scene, he can bifurcate into multiple bodies and 
 explore numerous possible futures all at once.  

That's it exactly. The vibe that I got from 
the film was Philip K. Dick's, even though I 
didn't know while watching the film that it 
was based on one of his stories.

It's the SUBTLTY with which it deals with
seeing the future that I got off on. As you
say, the reality of such a situation is that
the moment you start fucking with the future,
it starts getting all quantum mechanical on your 
ass and fucking back. The moment you realize
that you have the option of choosing one path
through the future you've seen, you are also 
stuck with the need to check out the myriad
other possible futures you *could* have seen.

As I said before, it's NOT a great film. But
it contains great ideas. And in an era in which
we really don't GET a lot of great films, for
me discovering one that has a few great ideas 
in it is just a delight.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Next

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ---Still, there's an ongoing challenge for you to predict the stocks, 
 or manifest an external siddhi of your choice; something more 
 important than (say) communicating with lobsters (feature: help, 
 help, don't boil me alive!!).

My sister thoroughly traumatized herself a while back.
She had gotten a live lobster to cook for dinner for
herself and our mother as a treat. She'd never done it
before. She made the mistake of admiring it for a while,
getting a sense of its personality, before it was time
to put it in the boiling water.

She felt bad enough about that, but she hadn't realized
it was then going to bang on the lid for a bit.

They ate the lobster, but she called me later that night,
very drunk (unusual for her) and extremely upset, feeling
like a murderer. I think she and my mother had even given
it a name before it went in the pot.




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2007-05-21 Thread quantum packet


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Next

2007-05-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ---Still, there's an ongoing challenge for you to predict the 
stocks, 
 or manifest an external siddhi of your choice; something more 
 important than (say) communicating with lobsters (feature: help, 
 help, don't boil me alive!!).

re: the stock market, It sounds like it may be an ongoing challenge 
for you, but not for me my friend. Seems like something for someone 
who wants to get out of their own skin, if I had to guess. The stuff 
I work on is for my growth and knowledge, so should there be a time 
when I need to predict stocks in order to learn something I suppose 
I'll give it a shot. Until then, I just enjoy sharing what I find 
out. As for hearing lobsters scream, there is a level of intense 
pain for all of the world that is easy to tap into if you so choose, 
too easy really, but I warn you the suffering accessed is immense, 
and can be overwhelming. If you need to go there, it is possible, 
though not much to learn imo. I've been there a couple of times in 
dreams; predicted the iraq war thing, and visited various levels of 
hell. :-)

   On Next, this is based on a novel or short story by the SCI-FI 
 genius Philip Dick.  (The Minority Report) was also based on one 
of 
 his stories.
  The basic idea in Next which makes it distinctive (as opposed to 
a 
 similar thriller, Deja Vu) is that there are alternative possible 
 futures, and the Cage character gets to try out any of them in 
 advance; i.e. the possible future which he personally selects as 
 being the most favorable. Then in his mind's eye, he carries out 
that 
 possible future to it's conclusion and if it doesn't work, he 
tries 
 another.  The catch is that the viewer doesn't know which of these 
 hypothetical scenaries is going to be the real one - any more 
than 
 the Cage character.
  Also, in one scene, he can bifurcate into multiple bodies and 
 explore numerous possible futures all at once. 

Sounds like elements of the movies Sliding Doors with Gwenyth (sp) 
Paltrow, The Family Man a la Nicky, Groundhog Day w/Bill Murray, and 
Multiplicity with Michael Keaton. I'll definitely rent it out. :-) 




[FairfieldLife] Smithsonian Tones Down Exhibit for Der Furhrer

2007-05-21 Thread Bhairitu
WASHINGTON: The Smithsonian Institution toned down an exhibit on 
climate change in the Arctic for fear of angering the U.S. Congress and 
the Bush administration, says a former administrator at the museum.

Among other things, the script, or official text, of last year's exhibit 
was rewritten to minimize and inject more uncertainty into the 
relationship between global warming and humans, said Robert Sullivan, 
who was associate director in charge of exhibitions at the Smithsonian's 
National Museum of Natural History.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/21/america/NA-GEN-US-Climate-Change.php

Who the fuck cares if the chimp gets upset.  Fucking cowards.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote: 
 Willytex is a little careless about crediting
 the sources he cuts-and-pastes his posts from.

Stop the lying, Judy, I didn't cut-and-paste nothing. 
The sources are still there, idiot, I copied them so
you could read them again, since you failed to respond 
the first time I posted them for you to read.

One remarkable instance grew out of Carter's strong 
opposition to the use of force to reverse the Iraqi 
occupation of Kuwait in 1990. Not satisfied with 
issuing a torrent of statements and articles, he 
dispatched a letter to the heads of state of members 
of the United Nations Security Council and several 
other governments urging them to oppose the American 
request for UN authorization of military action.

Read more:

'Our Worst Ex-President'
By Joshua Muravchik
Commentary, February, 2007
http://tinyurl.com/2oybbh



[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 Taking me out of context, eh?  Pretty ugly presidency 
 refers to Bush not Carter.

Oh my Gawd, Jesus fock! Bharat2's careless remarks got 
taken out of context and misinterpreted.

 Whatever mistakes Carter made they pale by comparison 
 to the Bush administration which is the most corrupt 
 in American history.  He should have taken back nothing!

So, we are agreed, Carter should NOT take back nothing:

  Getting rid of Saddam Hussien was a major accomplisment. 
  - Jimmy Carter
 
There is little doubt, in sum, that the electorate was 
right in 1980 when it judged Carter to have been among 
our worst Presidents. It is even more certain that history 
will judge him to have been our very worst ex-President.

Read more:

'Our Worst Ex-President'
By Joshua Muravchik
Commentary, February, 2007
http://tinyurl.com/2oybbh

  My remarks were maybe careless or misinterpreted, but I 
  wasn't comparing the overall administration, and I 
  certainly was not talking personally about any president.
 
  Full story:
 
  'The former president backs down from criticism of the 
  White House'
  TODAY Show May 21, 2007
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18781703/ 



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread taskcentered
No problem, I won't analyze your language.

I have to say, though that it's hard to think of the Maharishi as egoless when 
he has named everything from food supplements to universities after himself. To 
me it seems every aspect of the TM Org is a testament to the man's world-class, 
narcissistic ego.

John M. Knapp, LMSW
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
http://trancenet.net/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 Taking me out of context, eh?  Pretty ugly presidency 
 refers to Bush not Carter.

 
 Oh my Gawd, Jesus fock! Bharat2's careless remarks got 
 taken out of context and misinterpreted.

   
 Whatever mistakes Carter made they pale by comparison 
 to the Bush administration which is the most corrupt 
 in American history.  He should have taken back nothing!

 
 So, we are agreed, Carter should NOT take back nothing:

   
 Getting rid of Saddam Hussien was a major accomplisment. 
 - Jimmy Carter

   
 There is little doubt, in sum, that the electorate was 
 right in 1980 when it judged Carter to have been among 
 our worst Presidents. It is even more certain that history 
 will judge him to have been our very worst ex-President.

 Read more:

 'Our Worst Ex-President'
 By Joshua Muravchik
 Commentary, February, 2007
 http://tinyurl.com/2oybbh

   
 My remarks were maybe careless or misinterpreted, but I 
 wasn't comparing the overall administration, and I 
 certainly was not talking personally about any president.

 Full story:

 'The former president backs down from criticism of the 
 White House'
 TODAY Show May 21, 2007
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18781703/ 
   
Probably like many here I was swayed by the Carter sending the CIA to 
the TM courses rumor and wound up voting for John Anderson instead.  At 
least I didn't vote for Raygun.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jstein wrote: 
  Willytex is a little careless about crediting
  the sources he cuts-and-pastes his posts from.
 
 Stop the lying, Judy,

No, as usual, the liar would be you.

 I didn't cut-and-paste nothing.

Right, you didn't cut-and-paste nothing. You
cut-and-pasted several pieces of other people's
writing without giving them any credit, passing
the work off as your own.

You've done that for many years, on many
different topics. You're a plagiarist.

 The sources are still there, idiot, I copied them so
 you could read them again, since you failed to respond 
 the first time I posted them for you to read.

No, this was the first time you posted them.




[FairfieldLife] Home Loan Alternative

2007-05-21 Thread suziezuzie
This is totally off the topic so I expect some really, good off the 
topic responses. I bought a house two years ago here in beautiful 
Colorado and throughout that time, the more I thought about the loan, 
the madder I started getting, specifically, paying all the interest 
up front. I borrowed a little over $100K and came up with the rest. 
The total cost of the house was $233,000. 

What these banks do is charge you all the interest up front. This 
means, that for the first ten years on a thirty year fixed loan, you 
pay almost nothing but the interest. So after ten years, you finally 
start paying principle. But let's say on the eleventh year, you want 
to pay the whole loan off. I would then have to pay the entire 
principle which means that the house now costs $330,000! I realize 
that after ten years, I would make back all that interest in the 
appreciation of the house but this really is irrelevant. 

My question to all you money pros out there is is there another way 
to finance a house without paying all the interest up front, IOW like 
most loans in which the principle and interest are placed together 
and divided by the number of years of the loan, like a car loan? Has 
anyone heard of this new kind of loan called, My Bank, My Money My 
Way, (something like this). I spoke with a guy about this and it's 
based on an equity loan used to pay off the bank. 

Another gimmick the banks use, is lending you money on the equity of 
your house and then charging you interest, to borrow your own money! 
When you buy a house, the down payment which is your money becomes 
theirs-- you pay to borrow it! Does anyone have some good solutions? 

My 30 year fixed was taken out at 5.875% with no points and 
reasonable closing costs through Wells Fargo. 

Mark




[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No problem, I won't analyze your language.
 
 I have to say, though that it's hard to think of the Maharishi as 
egoless when he has named everything from food supplements to 
universities after himself. To me it seems every aspect of the TM Org 
is a testament to the man's world-class, narcissistic ego.

A much more likely explanation is that using
his name and picture is a branding strategy.
But that wouldn't reflect quite as badly on
him, so of course you wouldn't mention it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: American Culture vs. Vedic Culture

2007-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
John wrote:
 By many counts, the US culture does not follow the ideal 
 vedic culture.  For example, we eat meat, drink liquor, 
 mix freely with the opposite sex, have same sex unions, 
 work for money and career, get married primarily to enjoy 
 sex. 

Most historians agree, John, that the Vedic Aryan speakers 
all ate meat, drank barley beer and consumed large portions 
of the psycedelic decoction Soma mentioned in Rig Veda X. 

The Vedics met and mixed freely with the opposite sex and 
worked and raised cattle for money and career. And they 
got married primarily to enjoy sex. 

Haven't you read the Kama Sutra? 

 In spite of these negatives, the American economy is as 
 strong as ever. That goes to show that the Supreme Being 
 is tolerant, merciful and is willing to grant boons to 
 whomever He or She wants.
 
Who said that eating meat and enjoying sex was a negative?

It's even more fun when you have money and cattle. We don't 
have any Soma around here, but we do have lots of Lone Star 
beer and we sacrifice lots of cows at outdoor bar-b-ques 
down by the river, so in that sense, the Texas is the *ideal* 
Vedic culture.



[FairfieldLife] This guy Girish, is a winning winner!

2007-05-21 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 Is this ...
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf http://tinyurl.com/2pgkuf
 
 ... the same guy as this:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu http://tinyurl.com/2l72eu
 
 If so, he's one creepy bastard!  I think he fashions himself a 
Maharishi
 and can't wait for his uncle to die so that he can take a shot at
 sitting on the deer skin.
 
 Anyone getting a similar vibe?


Nay, might be you are just jealous.  He's winning the game of this 
Life: got the most money and the real estate. The affection of the 
master.  The power of the organization. And you?  

What you got?  A mantra, to go.

Loser?

Jai Guru Dev, 

-Doug in FF  






[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread suziezuzie
Hi John,

I've been meditating for 35 years and really like it. What I like 
about it, is how relaxing and peaceful it is, forget everything else 
you have said about it, it really feels good. And you know what? I've 
gone for a few days not meditating and what happens consistently when 
I start again, is like an ol' friend coming to meet me, that great 
experience of real peace, truly missed. Try it for yourself and see 
what happens. You've nothing to loose and let us know what you 
experience. Mark

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 We are very pleased to welcome our newest contributor to the TM-Free
 Blog ( http://tmfree.blogspot.com/ , Abraham -- a former visiting
 faculty member at MIU (MUM). As Abraham explains, he brings a wealth
 of information from two decades of experience within the TM Org:
 
 I first learned TM in 1971 as a 17 year-old college student and
 subsequently practiced it twice a day for 22 years. After graduating
 from college, I studied in Europe for six months to become a TM
 teacher and taught TM full-time, initiating over 250 people into the
 practice. I attended many advanced programs and became a TM Governor
 after learning the TM-Sidhi program. I have also been a visiting
 faculty member at Maharishi International University in Fairfield,
 Iowa. Because I still have friends in the TM organization and 
because
 of my current professional visibility, I choose to remain anonymous.
 For the most part, I had positive experiences with TM, which is why 
I
 kept up the practice for as long as I did. Nevertheless, in 1993,
 after years of inner conflict, I decided to stop practicing TM and
 quietly left the TM movement because I could no longer continue in
 good conscience. I had come to see how the whole thing had been 
based
 in deceit and denial.
 
 I hope you'll consider visiting TM-Free Blog and checking out what
 Abraham has to say.
 
 John M. Knapp, LMSW
 http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
 http://trancenet.net/





[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread taskcentered
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ wrote:
 
  No problem, I won't analyze your language.
  
  I have to say, though that it's hard to think of the Maharishi as 
 egoless when he has named everything from food supplements to 
 universities after himself. To me it seems every aspect of the TM Org 
 is a testament to the man's world-class, narcissistic ego.
 
 A much more likely explanation is that using
 his name and picture is a branding strategy.
 But that wouldn't reflect quite as badly on
 him, so of course you wouldn't mention it.

 
As to branding, he could have followed the practice of other Indian teachers 
and named 
everything after his teacher, Guru Dev. Also, I could point out that he began 
his incessant 
naming of everything Maharishi after the TM fad of the 1970s had largely 
passed. With 
the exception of MIU, the brand name he promoted up until that point was 
Transcendental 
Meditation itself. If anything he diluted his branding when he switched to 
naming things 
after himself.

The guy's just not egoless. It appears, rather, that you are making excuses for 
him.

John M. Knapp, LMSW
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
http://trancenet.net/

[A] bad guru can be extremely good
for a sincere devotee….
It's the main reason so many bad gurus
do good business. They are merely idols
upon which sincere devotees project
their own divinity, with sometimes
seemingly miraculous results.
--Jody R, Guruphiliac.blogspot.com



[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
  Stop the lying, Judy,
 
jstein wrote: 
 No, this was the first time you posted them.

Just stop the lying, Judy, I posted them to A.M.T. in 2005 
and that's why you know they came from Powerline. So what
if I got a little careless? You suck as a debator, Judy. 

But I made a mistake: you DID read them and you DID respond, 
except you responded in your usual idiotic way. You can read 
the full exchange in the idiotic 'Devil's Flypaper' post sent 
by your idiotic pal, Mr. John Manning, the Maharishi-basher 
you took up for, for over six years before you stalked me 
over here to pick another fight over nothing.

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: punditster
Date: 12 Jul 2005
Subject: Re: OT: The Devil's Flypaper
http://tinyurl.com/22cnah



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
wrote:
snip
   I have to say, though that it's hard to think of the
   Maharishi as egoless when he has named everything from
   food supplements to universities after himself. To me
   it seems every aspect of the TM Org is a testament to
   the man's world-class, narcissistic ego.
  
  A much more likely explanation is that using
  his name and picture is a branding strategy.
  But that wouldn't reflect quite as badly on
  him, so of course you wouldn't mention it.
  
 As to branding, he could have followed the practice of other
 Indian teachers and named everything after his teacher, Guru
 Dev.

And if he had, he'd have been even more violently
attacked for associating his teacher with a
commercial enterprise, when Guru Dev was known for
not even taking donations.

Plus which--another obvious point that you have
carefully overlooked--if he puts his name on 
things, he also has to take the responsibility
if they don't work out. Yet you think he should
have arranged it so Guru Dev got the blame.

Get real.

 Also, I could point out that he began his incessant 
 naming of everything Maharishi after the TM fad of the
 1970s had largely passed. With the exception of MIU, the
 brand name he promoted up until that point was Transcendental 
 Meditation itself. If anything he diluted his branding when
 he switched to naming things after himself.

You conveniently forget that this was also
around the time when disaffected TM teachers
were publicizing the mantra lists and telling
folks there was nothing unique about TM, and
the imitators really got going.  Plus which,
Benson had come out with his Relaxation Response.

Obviously, MMY didn't *need* branding until then.
Branding is what you do when you have competitors.

 The guy's just not egoless.

Did you imagine that I said he was egoless?

 It appears, rather, that you are making excuses for him.

That's a crock, John. That's your threadbare 
mantra when anybody points out that your
accusations are over the top.




[FairfieldLife] The World's Fastest Indian

2007-05-21 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Loved this flick. Had the dvd and watched all the extras and realized
that most of the movie was scripted dirctly from a one hour TV show
that was shot in the 70s for Australian TV. You could even see the
same dialogue and scene setup. Very interesting study in human life. Tom T



[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter says Bush is the worst President in American h...

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Stop the lying, Judy,
  
 jstein wrote: 
  No, this was the first time you posted them.
 
 Just stop the lying, Judy,

No, that would be you who is the liar.

 I posted them to A.M.T. in 2005

But not here.

 and that's why you know they came from Powerline.

No, I Googled phrases from them.

The quote you stole from Commentary is from an
article of February 2007.




[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   No problem, I won't analyze your language.
   
   I have to say, though that it's hard to think of the Maharishi 
as 
  egoless when he has named everything from food supplements to 
  universities after himself. To me it seems every aspect of the 
TM Org 
  is a testament to the man's world-class, narcissistic ego.
  
  A much more likely explanation is that using
  his name and picture is a branding strategy.
  But that wouldn't reflect quite as badly on
  him, so of course you wouldn't mention it.
 
  
 As to branding, he could have followed the practice of other 
Indian teachers and named 
 everything after his teacher, Guru Dev. Also, I could point out 
that he began his incessant 
 naming of everything Maharishi after the TM fad of the 1970s had 
largely passed. With 
 the exception of MIU, the brand name he promoted up until that 
point was Transcendental 
 Meditation itself. If anything he diluted his branding when he 
switched to naming things 
 after himself.
 
 The guy's just not egoless. It appears, rather, that you are 
making excuses for him.
 
 John M. Knapp, LMSW
 http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
 http://trancenet.net/
 
 [A] bad guru can be extremely good
 for a sincere devotee….
 It's the main reason so many bad gurus
 do good business. They are merely idols
 upon which sincere devotees project
 their own divinity, with sometimes
 seemingly miraculous results.
 --Jody R, Guruphiliac.blogspot.com

There's nothing wrong with ego. Look at God- He and She named the 
entire creation after themselves- God's Creation, God's Will Be 
Done, The Grace Of God, God Bless You. How's that for an ego 
trip?




[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread taskcentered
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 snip

Judy,

You appear to be having an off night. Comments interspersed below.


I have to say, though that it's hard to think of the
Maharishi as egoless when he has named everything from
food supplements to universities after himself. To me
it seems every aspect of the TM Org is a testament to
the man's world-class, narcissistic ego.
   
   A much more likely explanation is that using
   his name and picture is a branding strategy.
   But that wouldn't reflect quite as badly on
   him, so of course you wouldn't mention it.
   
  As to branding, he could have followed the practice of other
  Indian teachers and named everything after his teacher, Guru
  Dev.
 
 And if he had, he'd have been even more violently
 attacked for associating his teacher with a
 commercial enterprise, when Guru Dev was known for
 not even taking donations.

Wow. What a strange argument. Maharishi was actually being selfless by not 
associating 
Guru Dev with the crass commercial enterprise that he launched in his name (in 
Beacon 
Light).


 
 Plus which--another obvious point that you have
 carefully overlooked--if he puts his name on 
 things, he also has to take the responsibility
 if they don't work out. Yet you think he should
 have arranged it so Guru Dev got the blame.
 
 Get real.

Again, he started using his own name largely AFTER the fad days of the TM 
Movement. He 
had experienced a very large success. Then he started plastering his name on 
everything.

 
  Also, I could point out that he began his incessant 
  naming of everything Maharishi after the TM fad of the
  1970s had largely passed. With the exception of MIU, the
  brand name he promoted up until that point was Transcendental 
  Meditation itself. If anything he diluted his branding when
  he switched to naming things after himself.
 
 You conveniently forget that this was also
 around the time when disaffected TM teachers
 were publicizing the mantra lists and telling
 folks there was nothing unique about TM, and
 the imitators really got going.  Plus which,
 Benson had come out with his Relaxation Response.
 
 Obviously, MMY didn't *need* branding until then.
 Branding is what you do when you have competitors.

That's simply not true. He trademarked TM, Transcendental Meditation, and the 
TM-Sidhis 
before the Relaxation Response. He obviously felt he needed branding then.


 
  The guy's just not egoless.
 
 Did you imagine that I said he was egoless?

Actually, I didn't say you did say this. Did you imagine that I did?

Nabulous was making a case that the Maharishi was egoless before you wandered 
into the 
conversation.

 
  It appears, rather, that you are making excuses for him.
 
 That's a crock, John. That's your threadbare 
 mantra when anybody points out that your
 accusations are over the top.


Weird. I don't remember ever saying you or anybody else was making excuses for 
the 
Maharishi before. Can you provide an example?

John M. Knapp, LMSW
http://tmfree.blogspot.com/
http://trancenet.net/

[A] bad guru can be extremely good
for a sincere devotee….
It's the main reason so many bad gurus
do good business. They are merely idols
upon which sincere devotees project
their own divinity, with sometimes
seemingly miraculous results.
--Jody R, Guruphiliac.blogspot.com



[FairfieldLife] My response to a friend's suggestion that we engage in a discussion about the movement

2007-05-21 Thread Rick Archer
He said:

If you sincerely want to know the truth, I'll help you come to terms with
Maharishi and the Movement. But Ricky, if your heart is already set and I
would be wasting my time, then, you can go on with the negative judgements
and good luck.

 

I said:

I thought a lot about this and kind of felt my way into it during
meditation, and here's what I think (and feel). I love you, Bobby, Paul
Morehead, Craig Pearson, my old Purusha buddies, and the many good souls in
the movement. Most of the people I just mentioned love what they're doing
and seem to be thriving doing it. Bobby (to whom I'm Cc-ing this note)
absolutely glows with love, energy, and enthusiasm. I consider him a genuine
saint, (although, being a genuine saint, he wouldn't admit or even know that
he is). So many of the people I just mentioned are brilliant at what they
do. I couldn't hold a candle to them. My heart recoils at the thought of
engaging them in a conversation in which I would be obligated to bring out
things that might dampen their enthusiasm and devotion. If it ever becomes
more evolutionary for some of these people to leave the movement than to
stay in it, then probably that's what they'll do. Most of those who stay in
the movement will see them as having fallen or become deluded, because
seeing their course of action as perfectly acceptable might shake the
foundations of their own motivation. But those who leave can live with that.

 

The conditions you've set up for our discussion are not equitable. You
clearly imply that you possess the truth and that I am mired in negative
judgments from which you might extricate me. I don't regard you or anyone
as having a monopoly on the truth. If some of my own judgments are overly
negative, I'd certainly like to revise them. Others may be insightful or
well-informed, but for you to see them that way would be to start a crack in
the cosmic egg, and as I said above, I don't want to do that. I don't mean
to sound condescending, but chicks have to peck their way out. Helping them
from the outside can be injurious.

 

My guiding principles are pretty well expressed by the quotes on the home
page of FairfieldLife:

 

What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which
is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell

 

The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching

 

Whatever you think, it's more than that ~ Incredible String Band

 

Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what
your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But
whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind,
conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -- that
doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Dharma-pada,
Buddha Shakyamuni

 

Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band

 

I do not claim to know the truth. I hope my judgments, if I am making any,
remain open to revision as new information presents itself. And I try never
dismiss any information out of hand. Pretty much any topic is fair game.
(Another line from the FFL description.) We don't live in a black and white
universe and a fundamentalist, holier-than-thou attitude, whoever expresses
it, is a reflection of individual ego, not of the true nature of things. It
reveals a failure to appreciate God's infinite, all-embracing, compassionate
nature.

 

So I hope we always remain friends, and can spend some fun time together, as
I often do with the Moreheads, without friction over our different
orientations. Perhaps a few years from now we'll each see things from
different perspectives, and long discussions will be appropriate and
fruitful.

 

Your pal,

 

Rick

 

P.S. The Vikings say they're coming for you next.



[FairfieldLife] Event: Quantum Psyche ~ Giving Greater Mind

2007-05-21 Thread Mystical Sadhu

Most of my life I've found these skills substantially valuable, in every
realm of life, but also including the various realms we cover here in our
forum.  I graciously invite you to this event if you can make it.  This
event is in West Los Angeles, May 23, one in a series of ongoing events.

*Quantum Psyche* ~ *Giving Greater Mind*

Intuition, sixth sense, siddhis, or otherwise known as 'psychic abilities'
is latent in all of us and can enrich our lives enormously when tapped,
whether during an emergency or through regular intuitional
practices. Intuition draws information from the unconscious, 'superconscious
mind', or 'causal realm' to the consciously aware realm of mind more
familiar to us in daily life. Doing so, one can spontaneously know and
understand what would otherwise have passed us by unnoticed or seemed too
difficult to comprehend as the subconscious mind and, even more so, the
unconscious mind are far vaster than the conscious mind can ever be.

Cultivating these intuitional skills consciously helps make it easier for us
to make decisions, improve relationships, heal ones self and others, and
achieve success in all areas of life.  Is there a place in your life for
such skills?  Are you aware of how easy such skills are to cultivate and how
rewarding they are in developing more loving relationships and serving
humanity in any and every realm?

Whatever changes you foresee for the planet, your life, your family, your
career, these skills will help you prepare for, maximize opportunities for,
and further your success in every realm of life.

For many thousands of years humans have questioned, explored, discovered and
cultivate intuitional practices that have furthered their lives in every
realm, most especially spiritually, whether a deity was involved in the
practice or not.  From such scientific experimentation has evolved the
contemporary science of Tantra.  Whether liberation is your goal today or
you are putting that off to a future incarnation, intuition can, and must,
play a role in furthering your evolution as a happily fulfilled person from
now through old age, for yourself and those you love.

We will discuss Tantra's easy to understand principles and practices and
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*Tantra is an intuitional science, not a sect and nothing to join.*

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and convey to others.
Their virtues give true meaning to education.*


[FairfieldLife] Re: Home Loan Alternative - my $.02 - long

2007-05-21 Thread mainstream20016
Mark,
First of all, congratulations, for living in Colorado.  I hope you 
experience the 
inspirational beauty of the Rockies every day.  I long ago vowed that I would 
live
in Colorado when I got my life together. I'm not there yet, but perhaps one day 
I'll 
 live NW of Boulder, perhaps in or near Ward, or Allenspark.  Where in Colorado 
do you 
live?  
Anyway, back to your inquiry.  I'm no money pro, but like so many, I 
regard my own 
opinion highly, and I'd like to offer my $.02 regarding your inquiry 'home loan 
alternative'.
The stated concept, as I understand it, is to simplify the administration of 
debt service and 
maximize the use of your money.  The stategy is accomplished by creation of an 
account 
to which all streams of income are directed and from which all debt service is 
paid. Such 
an account would be created at the same time that you create a new mortgage, 
specifically 
a Home Equity Line of Credit. ( HELOC ).  
  Practically speaking, you'd take out a HELOC, the proceeds of which 
would pay off 
the existing mortgage completely.  Additionally, you would direct all streams 
of income 
(direct deposit of paycheck, etc) into the new administrative account.  
Likewise, you would 
authorize the administrative account to make payments on the HELOC and to 
service non-
residential debt on a regular basis. ( school loan debt, car loan debt, credit 
card debt, etc.)  
The concept is marketed to you as a means of paying principal owed on the 
residential 
debt in an earlier fashion than you understand is available to you now with 
your current 
mortgage.  The administrative account would accomplish this by frequently 
(perhaps 
daily?) making additional principal payments on your residential loan from 
whatever 
excess funds remain in the administrative account after the monthly cycle of 
debt service 
has been satisfied.  
I find the concept laudable, and simple to administer from your side, but I 
would have
some discomfort about the frequent transactions and the accuracy of the 
additional small 
extra principal payments.  There are simpler, surer ways to accomplish your 
goal of 
accelerated principal payments.  
  What is not clear to me is whether you realize the high degree of 
probability that 
you can already make additional principal payments to your existing mortgage.
  You stated that at the time that you bought the house, you borrowed 
$100K for the 
$233K purchase.  That means that your down payment was $133K, right ?  That is 
a 
significant down payment, and I don't understand how you must wait 10 years 
before 
being able to make any principal payments against the balance borrowed at the 
time of 
purchase, unless your mortgage requires only interest-only payments for the 
first 10 
years. In any event, I don't think you can be penalized for pre-paying 
principal. 
  Back to the concept of the loan you inquired about -  What is not 
mentioned in the 
article is the nature of HELOC loans, but I would strongly suggest you think 
clearly before 
you make a HELOC loan, particularly if your commendable goals of reducing debt 
early are 
as stated, as HELOC loans are like crack cocaine to an undisciplined borrower. 
Their 
primary effect as a profitable financial product is to tempt homeowners to 
finance current 
living with long-term debt.  The line of credit can increase with increases in 
the value of 
the home, and many people  over the past decade have continued to draw from the 
HELOC 
as housing prices rose, again, funding current expenditures with the HELOC, 
which was 
increased with increasing equity of a booming housing market.  Although 
long-term 
appreciation is a reality for real estate, I would not be surprised if the 
value of real estate 
remains flat for a decade or more, and perhaps the recent significant declines 
in real 
estate value will continue for a good part of the next decade, as well.  Houses 
are a good 
place to rest, but not necessarily a good investment vehicle, particularly if 
one buys at the 
peak of a market.
   I would suggest avoiding the temptation of a HELOC loan by refusing 
to be enticed.
Re-read you loan document to determine if there are any prohibitions against 
pre-
payment of principal. I doubt it. There are safer ways to pay the principal 
early than a 
HELOC.  Create an amortization schedule for your existing loan - just Google 
'home-loan 
amortization schedule'.  Type in your loan rate, and term, and you'll discover 
the principal
payment each month for your existing loan. If you want to decrease the life of 
your loan by 
half, say, from 30 to 15 years, each month simply make an additional principal 
payment 
for the amount of principal that will be due on the next month's payment 
schedule. Each 
month, the amount will increase slightly, but the earlier in the life of the 
loan you start, the 
greater impact your additional principal payment.   By making additional 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Free Blog: Former MIU Faculty Joins Us

2007-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered 
no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  snip
 
 Judy,
 
 You appear to be having an off night.

Translation: John is having trouble coming up
with good responses, so he figures he'll try
prejudicing readers before they actually
examine his fumbles.

 Comments interspersed below.
 
 I have to say, though that it's hard to think of the
 Maharishi as egoless when he has named everything from
 food supplements to universities after himself. To me
 it seems every aspect of the TM Org is a testament to
 the man's world-class, narcissistic ego.

A much more likely explanation is that using
his name and picture is a branding strategy.
But that wouldn't reflect quite as badly on
him, so of course you wouldn't mention it.

   As to branding, he could have followed the practice of other
   Indian teachers and named everything after his teacher, Guru
   Dev.
  
  And if he had, he'd have been even more violently
  attacked for associating his teacher with a
  commercial enterprise, when Guru Dev was known for
  not even taking donations.
 
 Wow. What a strange argument. Maharishi was actually being
 selfless

Right, by putting himself in a position
where he'd be less likely to be attacked.

Sure, John.  The epitome of selflessness.

 by not associating Guru Dev with the crass commercial
 enterprise that he launched in his name (in Beacon 
 Light).

Right, well before before it ever became commercial.

You should have quit before you got any further
behind.

  Plus which--another obvious point that you have
  carefully overlooked--if he puts his name on 
  things, he also has to take the responsibility
  if they don't work out. Yet you think he should
  have arranged it so Guru Dev got the blame.
  
  Get real.
 
 Again, he started using his own name largely AFTER the fad
 days of the TM Movement. He had experienced a very large
 success. Then he started plastering his name on everything.

Everything, that's le mot juste, including all
the stuff he introduced AFTER the fad days of the
TM movement, like the TM-Sidhis and Maharishi
Ayur-Veda and Jyotish and yagyas. Those were sure
to be big popular successes, right, John?

   Also, I could point out that he began his incessant 
   naming of everything Maharishi after the TM fad of the
   1970s had largely passed. With the exception of MIU, the
   brand name he promoted up until that point was Transcendental 
   Meditation itself. If anything he diluted his branding when
   he switched to naming things after himself.
  
  You conveniently forget that this was also
  around the time when disaffected TM teachers
  were publicizing the mantra lists and telling
  folks there was nothing unique about TM, and
  the imitators really got going.  Plus which,
  Benson had come out with his Relaxation Response.
  
  Obviously, MMY didn't *need* branding until then.
  Branding is what you do when you have competitors.
 
 That's simply not true. He trademarked TM, Transcendental
 Meditation, and the TM-Sidhis before the Relaxation Response.
 He obviously felt he needed branding then.

And would have to spend jillions to defend the
trademarks in court to keep the imitators from
using the terms (and risking losing the trademark
into the bargain because they were iffy to start
with). Much more cost-effective to use a branding
device that couldn't be imitated so easily.

   The guy's just not egoless.
  
  Did you imagine that I said he was egoless?
 
 Actually, I didn't say you did say this. Did you imagine that
 I did?

Well, yes, John, you did.

 Nabulous was making a case that the Maharishi was egoless
 before you wandered into the conversation.

But you were responding to me. And you went on to say:

   It appears, rather, that you are making excuses for him.

Too bad about that word rather, ain't it?

  That's a crock, John. That's your threadbare 
  mantra when anybody points out that your
  accusations are over the top.
 
 Weird. I don't remember ever saying you or anybody else
 was making excuses for the Maharishi before. Can you provide
 an example?

Oh, please.  You've said it many times.  I'm not
going to waste my time hunting up examples.




[FairfieldLife] HBO's levitating surfer

2007-05-21 Thread bob_brigante
NBC's Heroes probably inspired HBO to put on this show about a 
levitating surfer:

http://www.hbo.com/events/johnfromcincinnati/index.html