[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread qntmpkt
--Thanks, this is quite obvious if one defines the me = I; the notion of a delusional self associated with the mind as an identity separate from Pure Consciousness. This is the snake that actually is a rope. The snake doesn't exist in itself, therefore the I or me in this sense can't get

[FairfieldLife] Curtis -- your views -- Miranda Lambert, Elvis, Brandi Carlile -- and others too

2007-09-19 Thread new . morning
Curtis, or others of course, Scanning channels -- a great symptom -- or metaphor -- for later inquiry, I came across an Elvis Special on ABC. While not a big fan of Elvis, particularly his hype and and late 60's / early 70's press image, and my being a child of the late 60's, Elvis was the

[FairfieldLife] Crows (Schmopcircles (Re: New Cropcircles))

2007-09-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 18, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I read about that, but the version I got had the crows actually smart enough, get this!, to drop the nuts on crosswalks-at-traffic- lights. Why? Cuz then, after the

[FairfieldLife] JFK and GWB -- Evolution? Rising World Consciousness?

2007-09-19 Thread new . morning
I just saw a clip of JFK giving ask not.. speech. Pure magic, IMO. Regardless, what you may think of his politics -- I personally liked many -- not all of his ideas and visions. He was a great speaker, clear inspiring, articulate and visionary. I know from personal experience, that he inspired

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi, Lurk

2007-09-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Marrying and Having Children: Nablus: If having them does not shift attention away from meditation to diapers, as it obviously did for the original poster, then why not. To have them can't ruin your

[FairfieldLife] Mantras, meditation and deities

2007-09-19 Thread emptybill
emptybill wrote: Over the years I have heard an argument professed by some former TM meditators who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the meaning of mantra-s. Empty again: Baba Hari Dass is an impeccable yogin possessed of vairagya and dispossessed of any

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Thanks, this is quite obvious if one defines the me = I; the notion of a delusional self associated with the mind as an identity separate from Pure Consciousness. Hridaya puri:I suppose getting the definitions matching

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bring it on.

2007-09-19 Thread Peter
Of course! --- tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Of course!...these were the Anunnaki (the Nephilim or Giants mentioned in the Bible), who spliced their own DNA onto the uncivilized humanoids living at that time. The whole account is spelled out in detail in the works of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Aushcwitz employee picnic pics

2007-09-19 Thread MDixon6569
I think they're meditating. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

[FairfieldLife] Citta manas?

2007-09-19 Thread cardemaister
Anyone know what's the difference, if any, between citta and manas?

[FairfieldLife] Re: heyaM duHkham anaagatam?

2007-09-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I have no idea what she meant, thats why I asked you ! The word

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bring it on.

2007-09-19 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Of course!...these were the Anunnaki (the Nephilim or Giants mentioned in the Bible), who spliced their own DNA onto the uncivilized humanoids living at that time. The whole account is spelled out in detail in

[FairfieldLife] Re: JFK and GWB -- Evolution? Rising World Consciousness?

2007-09-19 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw a clip of JFK giving ask not.. speech. Pure magic, IMO. Regardless, what you may think of his politics -- I personally liked many -- not all of his ideas and visions. He was a great speaker, clear

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hi, Lurk

2007-09-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:26 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hi, Lurk Never did. What I said was that not having children is a blessing. Others will claim

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hi, Lurk

2007-09-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:26 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hi, Lurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: heyaM duHkham anaagatam?

2007-09-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] UFO sightings

2007-09-19 Thread nablusoss1008
Benjamin Creme's Master's article `The gathering of the Forces of Light' (Share International March 2007 ) begins: Important events are taking place in many parts of the world. People everywhere will be astonished by the reports. These will include sightings, in unprecedented numbers, of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions Answers from Share International

2007-09-19 Thread nablusoss1008
Questions Answers Q. (1) On 16 July 2007 a 6.8 magnitude earthquake rocked the world's largest nuclear plant at Kashiwazaki, Japan, causing a transformer fire and spills and leaks at the plant. (1) Was the nuclear leak in Japan worse than the government made out? (2) Was there any UFO

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles

2007-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: Would you acknowledge the possibility that for one who has very thoroughly studied crop circles, what may seem biased views to you may in fact be quite objective? Rereading it, I'm not sure I made this

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Duveyoung
qntmpkt wrote: Thanks, this is quite obvious if one defines the me = I; the notion of a delusional self associated with the mind as an identity separate from Pure Consciousness. This is the snake that actually is a rope. The snake doesn't exist in itself, therefore the I or me in this sense

[FairfieldLife] Re: heyaM duHkham anaagatam?

2007-09-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, vittu is probably the most common curse word hereabouts, roughly corresponding to fvck (you). The expression mukava vittu would be a bit idiosyncratic, IMO. It might well have been mukavaa, vittu, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Marek Reavis
Well said (written), Edg. Particularly valuable to me was the noise that comes with (and can't be separated from) the train metaphor/analogy; that is very fine. Thanks. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: qntmpkt wrote: Thanks, this is quite

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
This is a very complicated post - my opinion is it serves to get the mind engaged- where as enlightenment is very simple- the me falls away, then there only IS They say that then it was known that there never was a me, it was Maya- ego is the maya- so no cosmic ego's in my path --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread qntmpkt
--The statement, ...then there only IS is an incomplete description of existence. A more complete statement would be IsAS: modifications of pure Conscious such as trees, the sky, the body; etc; and all of the components that STILL make up an individual, minus the false illusory I.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aushcwitz employee picnic pics

2007-09-19 Thread Marek Reavis
Just some thoughts, mostly rambling. My mother's last surviving sibling, my Aunt Zosia, lives in Oswiciem (Aushcwitz is in Poland and that's the non-German name of the town). After reading the NYTimes article Bob posted (below) I went to the US Holocaust Museum site and began to look at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: heyaM duHkham anaagatam?

2007-09-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: FWIW, vittu is probably the most common curse word hereabouts, roughly corresponding to fvck (you). The expression mukava vittu

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God is omnipresent -- what else needs to be said? Edg Been thinking about this one, in the context of why bother?, and trying to figure out why God, or insert motive force of creation here *does* bother. Or appears to.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Peter
--- Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a very complicated post - my opinion is it serves to get the mind engaged- where as enlightenment is very simple- the me falls away, then there only IS It might be quite complicated , but it does/can lead the mind towards transcending itself. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: heyaM duHkham anaagatam?

2007-09-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not visible but attainable and hidden by a thin piece of cloth only. Who knows, she was just bragging probably - the finns... ;-) Bragging? Was she referring to her own yawn-ee, then?? :0 yoni mf. [...]

[FairfieldLife] Re: JFK and GWB -- Evolution? Rising World Consciousness?

2007-09-19 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw a clip of JFK giving ask not.. speech. Pure magic, IMO. Regardless, what you may think of his politics -- I personally liked many -- not all of his ideas and visions. He was a great speaker, clear

[FairfieldLife] Re: JFK and GWB -- Evolution? Rising World Consciousness?

2007-09-19 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: I just saw a clip of JFK giving ask not.. speech. Pure magic, IMO. Regardless, what you may think of his politics -- I personally liked many

[FairfieldLife] tumeric helps prevent brain plaque

2007-09-19 Thread matrixmonitor
http://www.tinyurl.com/2vnc4m

[FairfieldLife] Re: tumeric helps prevent brain plaque

2007-09-19 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/2vnc4m All you hot dog eaters have been eating health food all this time -- good ole yellow mustard contains turmeric: http://www.drgourmet.com/ingredients/mustard.shtml

[FairfieldLife] Re: JFK and GWB -- Evolution? Rising World Consciousness?

2007-09-19 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: I just saw a clip of JFK giving ask not.. speech. Pure magic, IMO. Regardless, what you may think of his politics -- I personally liked many

[FairfieldLife] Re: JFK and GWB -- Evolution? Rising World Consciousness?

2007-09-19 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: I just saw a clip of JFK giving ask not.. speech. Pure magic, IMO. Regardless, what you may think of his politics -- I personally liked many

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
I just read this to swami G and she said yea, that's what happens It might be quite complicated , but it does/can lead the mind towards transcending itself. I agree that enlightenment is simple, but it can come as quite a shock when the mind attempts to reference itself, to feel itself as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --The statement, ...then there only IS is an incomplete description of existence. Of course, any statement will never replace the reality of the situation A more complete statement would be IsAS: modifications

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --The statement, ...then there only IS is an incomplete description of existence. Of course, any statement will never replace the reality of the situation A more complete statement would be IsAS: modifications

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread tanhlnx
--Below, you ask if I is the individual. Depends upon how you define it: a. the illusory I that is the core of misidentification, or b. the individual who remains after the ignorance of misidentification is gone, and who STILL may refer to herself as I in ordinary exchanges of conversation

[FairfieldLife] Re: JFK and GWB -- Evolution? Rising World Consciousness?

2007-09-19 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: I just saw a clip of JFK giving ask not.. speech. Pure magic,

[FairfieldLife] Re: tumeric helps prevent brain plaque

2007-09-19 Thread shukra69
hot dogs are not healthy food, increasing your risk of leukemia amoung other things --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/2vnc4m All you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
This is way too complicated for me, but I ask the usual- is the one writting this speaking from Being or about it? Start with that. We have 3 enlightened one's in our group and though there is not a coaching, they have the same basic thing to say because it is coming from that One essence.

[FairfieldLife] From the newest enlightened One- the is no*one*

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
Namaste Sajani and Holly, When one comes upon That which IS, all else - every little experience (vision, dream, sounds, Samadhi, etc) that ever happened is absolutely burned to dust. Visions, experiences, dreams, insights are all wonderful in that they can help to keep one motivated to