[FairfieldLife] Vaj question (Re: An answer to the question.)

2008-03-25 Thread Robert
(snip) And the most fun part of it is that the teacher often assigns each student the *opposite* of their own point of view to defend. That's a real kick in the ass, lemme tell you. Socrates also taught in this way; Now it's called the 'Socratic Method' of teaching... Barack Obama uses

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Robert
(snip) Jesus is here, and he wants to resurrect somebody! - Rumi Jesus was a revolutionary teacher of his time, and of any time. His ideas go against the Power of Rome(or any earthly power)... Which cause him to be killed. He was the predicted 'Messiah', and was able to transcend the

[FairfieldLife] TM sounds so much better in a Serbian accent

2008-03-25 Thread shempmcgurk
http://tinyurl.com/2cz3vd

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the Artist *uses* Science, but usually not the other way around. I believe that for a person who grew up in a developed county in the last 80 years the assimilation of some of the principles of science

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- curtisdeltablues wrote: There is much more time spent on the miracles than any of [Jesus'] presentation of ethical philosophy

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Bonobo chimps are hilarious. They evolved in a region with plenty of food so they are not very aggressive and they screw at the drop of a hat (or in this

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He never had anything to offer!!! Atheists generally don't, but that is another subject. Atheists, hmmm? Is that sorta like a nigger or a spic? Worse. Niggers and spics know

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- curtisdeltablues wrote: Gillam wrote: What's the evolutionist's answer to the question? I would think it would have something to

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently, if they don't have on the diaper they masturbate as much as they physically can. That helps? Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try and report back! LOL. But, if you want a real laugh, do a

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: He never had anything to offer!!! Atheists generally don't, but that is another subject. Atheists, hmmm?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 24, 2008, at 8:47 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: My favorite Jesus quote is my original: Hey Jesus, since you've risen, how about getting me a beer! I found Jesus! he was behind the couch the whole time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: He never had anything to offer!!! Atheists

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- curtisdeltablues wrote: --- Angela Mailander wrote: Chimps have forgiveness rituals??? The source is Peacemaking Among Primates by De Waal the bonobo expert. Most social primates have to have a way to make up to keep the society together. They will offer a hand to the mouth

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Peter
--- Mr. Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyhoo...I just have to wonder about the deeper hidden drives that make a person NEED to discount any possible goodness that our civilizations' 'spiritual' people may have brought us. That really is a good question.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Peter
--- Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonobo chimps are hilarious. They evolved in a region with plenty of food so they are not very aggressive and they screw at the drop of a hat (or in this case, a banana) We

[FairfieldLife] Gov Bill Richardson a Horseman, Endorses Obama, Bush Scared of Horses

2008-03-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richardson says the speech Obama gave in response to the Rev. Wright smear campaign showed his real leadership abilities and sealed the deal for his endorsement. Richardson called for the negative tone and dirty

[FairfieldLife] Re: What effect has Maharishi's passing had on Fairfield and the movement?

2008-03-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey initiate22000@ wrote: Hi, I am a former Fairfield resident (from the 80's!)and an occasional visitor to this listserv. I imagine this topic has probably been discussed, so if you want to direct me to former postings, that's fine.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The View From Canada'

2008-03-25 Thread Angela Mailander
Not eloquent--cacophonous . She needs a good and patient editor. As for trash? dunno--totally out of any universe of discourse I've swum in. --- matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Eloquent trash! - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: What effect has Maharishi's passing had on Fairfield and the movement?

2008-03-25 Thread Duveyoung
The TMO, read Girish, is exactly like the latter day Mafia -- that is, they got cash rich and started investing in legitimate businesses until those businesses began to compete with their illegal activities in terms of profits. The TMO is a real estate company first and foremost with criminal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Angela Mailander
Here's wikipedia on the historicity of jesus There are passages relevant to Christianity in the works of four major non-Christian writers of the late 1st and early 2nd centuries – Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, and Pliny the Younger. However, these are generally references to early Christians

[FairfieldLife] Re: What effect has Maharishi's passing had on Fairfield and the movement?

2008-03-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO, read Girish, is exactly like the latter day Mafia -- that is, they got cash rich and started investing in legitimate businesses until those businesses began to compete with their illegal activities in terms of

[FairfieldLife] Re: What effect has Maharishi's passing had on Fairfield and the movement?

2008-03-25 Thread aztjbailey
Duveyoung seems to have a remarkable talent of concisely summarizing large organizational structures so prevalent in today's world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO, read Girish, is exactly like the latter day Mafia -- that is, they got cash

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Duveyoung
Stu wrote: Love, truth and beauty is the recognition of this harmony around us. They are part of nature, its part of us. No supernatural stuff need apply. Even a hardened materialist can appreciate the organic unity of these ideals. Edg: You know those Necker cubes where the diagram of a box

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
There is a lot of talk in the history of philosophy about the connection between conception and perception. Psychology has taken up the topic in some detail. I appreciate your point about choosing our attention. I believe that my happiness is maintained by what I pay attention to and what I

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Duveyoung
http://www.unleashingthewench.com/images/domebrdrd2.jpg Don't know if the image will show up for online readers, but the link above leads to an image that all of us are familiar with. It pertains to the concepts below. I've tried my best to discover the name of the artist -- anyone know? Edg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I've tried my best to discover the name of the artist -- anyone know? No, but I love the picture. Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Vaj
It's a woodcut from a book from the 1800's. IIRC the artist is unknown. On Mar 25, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Duveyoung wrote: http://www.unleashingthewench.com/images/domebrdrd2.jpg Don't know if the image will show up for online readers, but the link above leads to an image that all of us are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I've tried my best to discover the name of the artist -- anyone know? No, but I love the picture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_Woodcut

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Angela Mailander
My guess on love, truth, and beauty's evolutionary purpose (as well as the notion of God, which may be a synthesis of love beauty and truth) is that all of them have to do with right-brain activity and, more importantly, with uniting the two halves of the brain, that is, with effecting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Vaj wrote: On Mar 25, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I've tried my best to discover the name of the artist -- anyone know? No, but I love the picture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_Woodcut

[FairfieldLife] Re: What effect has Maharishi's passing had on Fairfield and the movement?

2008-03-25 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saavy ?By the end of MMY's life, the TMO was crack-cocaine-addicted to $1m Raja course fees, the pool of potential Rajas had dried, the existing were Rajas tapped out. Western real estate holdings - the real

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread matrixmonitor
--External Gods may still be worshipped after Brahman Realization (external as Brahman, nondifferent); since Ramakrishna was devoted to Kali before and after Realization, and Ramana Maharshi was devoted to Arunachala Shiva. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richardson Explains Obama Endorsement

2008-03-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Richardson called for the negative tone and dirty politics to come to an end and for the party to come together to put forward a positive message. The most recent results, reported March 24, showed Clinton ahead 46 percent to 44 percent. In other words, over two weeks, Obama was down 4

[FairfieldLife] Re: What effect has Maharishi's passing had on Fairfield and the movement?

2008-03-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- dhamiltony2k5 wrote: There is a lot of stuff going on in FF that makes it real interesting. You're being coy, Doug. What kind of stuff? Please elaborate. Thanks.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Mr. Ed
Well said, and thank you it was Pliny I was thinking of although Livy mentions the christ cult also. Investigation and learning as much as is possible is, to me, more noble than sayingNope..No Jesusneither mundane or miraculous.File Him under 'Things only a child

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Angela Mailander
In what sense is the distinction between internal and external still valid in Unity or any state after? It should be merely a heuristic by that time in my estimation. --- matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --External Gods may still be worshipped after Brahman Realization (external as

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM sounds so much better in a Serbian accent

2008-03-25 Thread Zoran Krneta
It's not matter of accent … more important is the posture in which he is addressing to us... zoran

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread sandiego108
I liked the explanation of the fish, knowing itself because it moves through water-- so very much like the individual ego. Regarding Unity or some such, I've heard it described like this: the usual experience we have is differentiation predominating, everything separate, but in Unity, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What effect has Maharishi's passing had on Fairfield and the movement?

2008-03-25 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- dhamiltony2k5 wrote: There is a lot of stuff going on in FF that makes it real interesting. You're being coy, Doug. What kind of stuff? Please elaborate. Thanks. People have switched, finally, from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gov Bill Richardson a Horseman, Endorses Obama, Bush Scared of Horses

2008-03-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Doug wrote: Explains a damn lot to me. About a fifth of Clinton and Obama supporters now say they wouldn't vote for the other candidate in the general election. Meanwhile, on the other side, voters get an unobstructed view of the Republican nominee. John McCain's approval ratings have

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --External Gods may still be worshipped after Brahman Realization (external as Brahman, nondifferent); since Ramakrishna was devoted to Kali before and after Realization, and Ramana Maharshi was devoted to

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Larry
As I have heard, UC is recognition of Self in another object (person/place/thing) . . . as UC matures, recognition becomes more frequent and the 'scope' of the object expands . . . till entire universe can be appreciated as Self. However - in BC the fullness of 'inside' and 'outside' collide and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Larry wrote: As I have heard, UC is recognition of Self in another object (person/place/thing) . . . as UC matures, recognition becomes more frequent and the 'scope' of the object expands . . . till entire universe can be appreciated as Self. This is how Shankara

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread netineti3
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: --External Gods may still be worshipped after Brahman Realization (external as Brahman, nondifferent); since Ramakrishna was devoted to Kali before and after Realization, and Ramana Maharshi was devoted

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Larry wrote: As I have heard, UC is recognition of Self in another object (person/place/thing) . . . as UC matures, recognition becomes more frequent and the 'scope' of the object expands .

[FairfieldLife] Christopher Hitchens on Obama and Wright

2008-03-25 Thread shempmcgurk
From salon.com Blind Faith The statements of clergymen like Jeremiah Wright aren't controversial and incendiary; they're wicked and stupid. By Christopher HitchensPosted Monday, March 24, 2008, at 12:09 PM ET It's been more than a month since I began warning Sen. Barack Obama that he would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2008, at 7:34 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Larry wrote: As I have heard, UC is recognition of Self in another object (person/place/thing) . . . as UC matures, recognition becomes more

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread matrixmonitor
---Sure. Ramana was devoted to the Arunachala Hill, a murti of the static form of Shiva . (p.2 Bhagavan Sri Ramana, A Pictorial Biography, published by Sri V.S. Ramanan, President, Sri Ramanasramam). Bhagavan spoke these words: (p.1): Siva, the Lord Supreme whom all adore, Us'd once His trident

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: samadhi : becoming free of all transmutations (nirvikAra), maintaining the vrtti of being identical with Brahman, then forgetting the ry vrtti. Lawson wrote: More like water within water. From what I've read, the word Samadhi does not occur in the ten major Upanishads

[FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi on the form of God

2008-03-25 Thread matrixmonitor
from the David Godman website: Being the perfect spiritual Master that he was, Sri Bhagavan knew well how important and necessary is the form of God for the human mind, which is ever attached to forms. And from his own personal experience he knew the unique power of the form of Arunachala, a

[FairfieldLife] Toking with Lawrence Welk

2008-03-25 Thread do.rflex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have heard, UC is recognition of Self in another object (person/place/thing) . . . as UC matures, recognition becomes more frequent and the 'scope' of the object expands . . . till entire universe can be appreciated as

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More like water within water. Different currents have a different character, but its all water. Lawson sounds like three's a crowd.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An answer to the question.

2008-03-25 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Sure. Ramana was devoted to the Arunachala Hill, a murti of the static form of Shiva . (p.2 Bhagavan Sri Ramana, A Pictorial Biography, published by Sri V.S. Ramanan, President, Sri Ramanasramam). Bhagavan

[FairfieldLife] Arunachala and the Legend of the Endless Fire

2008-03-25 Thread yifuxero
from Hinduism Today: -- -- The Legend of Endless Fire -- -- A mythical story of three Gods The long-lived fame of the great Arunachaleswara

[FairfieldLife] MDIXON's Dumbass War

2008-03-25 Thread off_world_beings
Cheney and MDIXON like to lick dead bodies for breakfast. http://youtube.com/watch?v=h7izi9LaYyI The U.S. is using white phosphorus, a chemical munition known more commonly in the military as Willy Peter. White phosphorus is a chemical weapon. During the battle of Fallujah in November 2004, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Toking with Lawrence Welk

2008-03-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg Aside from the fact that the girl in the video looks like Sharon Tate, what is the significance of linking to it? Why are you wasting my time, Bongo Brazil?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Christopher Hitchens on Obama and Wright

2008-03-25 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From salon.com Blind Faith I assume you all have your copies of The Audacity of Hope in paperback breviary form. If you turn to the chapter entitled Faith, beginning on Page 195, and read as far as Page 208,