[FairfieldLife] The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
It seems to me, watching the tales of Neil Patterson and Andy Rhymer appear again (not to mention the casual aside to Sai Baba, a Class-A pedophile in his own right), together with the ongoing exercises in solipsism that grace our FFL screens, that maybe it's time to examine a fundamental

[FairfieldLife] Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
This subject is on my mind because last night I was out walking my dogs and, finding myself a bit hungry, decided to find a restaurant in which to eat. I was unsuccessful in this task, not because they were full on a Friday night, but because I had the dogs with me. Suffice it to say that Spain

Re: [FairfieldLife] Andy Rymer, was: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5
The dogma in question is that the enlightened are perfectly in accord with the laws of nature, and thus can do no wrong. Their actions are *by definition* life-supporting. Excellent observation Turq, Is about TM spiritual arrogance. `Improved moral thinking' is now one of the main points

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if there is a connection between dog-friendly and friendly dogs. In France, dogs are allowed to be an integral part of society; they can go anywhere that humans do. In Spain they cannot; they are clearly outcasts. I'm wondering whether

[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Rymer, was: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like your writing, Edg. Is there a statute of limitations on this sort of thing? The Catholic priests got nailed years or even decades after their crimes. I believe one state legislature made an exception to the statute, and it may be that the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread Angela Mailander
I think everyone has heard that animals can sense your fear. Here's how I think that works. If a bee shows up around your nose, and you're scared shitless, that bee doesn't read your fear like a clever psychic spy. Instead, her awareness is completely flooded with your fear, and she feels it as

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me, watching the tales of Neil Patterson and Andy Rhymer appear again (not to mention the casual aside to Sai Baba, a Class-A pedophile in his own right), together with the ongoing exercises in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, that's got to be a classic statement. I don't much about it, but I'm sure about that guy. Watch the movie The Assassination of Jesse James. It's about how a criminal (Jesse) can come to see the light or become enlightened and yet continue to be in the relative what he has always been.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2008, at 1:59 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Once this piece of dogma sets its hooks in seekers, they seem willing to overlook ANYTHING in the people they consider enlightened. They can form the most amazing rationalizations for why the teacher they revere is really doing the right thing when

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Who here still believes that enlightenment confers perfection on the one who claims to have realized (or who actually *has* realized) enlightenment? Who here believes that the actions of the enlightened are *by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2008, at 6:09 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So, you dog lovers out there, what's Fairfield (or what- ever town you live in) like in terms of dog-friendly? Not sure what the official laws are here, Barry, but the only place I can recall seeing dogs at here in Iowa (or pretty much anywhere

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2008, at 7:58 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: We have neighbors on the left with dogs, and neigbors on the right. (we have cats). The neighbors on the right are easy going, sort of normal people. The neighbors on the left are uptight, ridged, pretty unfriendly type people. This is

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Why can't a pedophile be in UC? I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not exactly the expert on UC, but this guy sure ain't in it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Good show, Judy. I'm totally with you on this one and I'm glad you state the main points of that argument so well cuz I'm too busy to do it myself right now. God may have told some enlightened fart to shoot his neighbor and eat his heart raw in the market place, but that shouldn't keep anyone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Angela Mailander
God, Judy, another fine statement. If you keep it up, I'll have to worship your ass before long. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Angela Mailander wrote: God, Judy, another fine statement. If you keep it up, I'll have to worship your ass before long. It always seems to come back to sex with you guys. Why is that? Why can't a pedophile be in UC? I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not exactly the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This subject is on my mind because last night I was out walking my dogs and, finding myself a bit hungry, decided to find a restaurant in which to eat. I was unsuccessful in this task, not because they were full on a

[FairfieldLife] Brahma Granthi-the first knot!

2008-05-17 Thread BillyG.
This knot must be untied before transcending to pure consciousness (samprajnata samadhi-TC) is possible, hence the yamas and niyamas are an aid to accomplishing this task, as MMY says, all of Patanjali's 8 *means* to Yoga must be practiced simultaneously...Gita appendix. Some TM'ers get a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, yeah, I also know where a dog can stick her nose. I had a dog once that used to raid my neighbor's diaper pail and my kitty's litter box for treats. That notwithstanding however, my vet still assures me that a dog's mouth is cleaner than a human's. Having lived in France, I can relate to

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW: A person who preys sexually on post-pubertal children is technically not a pedophile. Pedophiles--those who prey on prepubertal children-- have a severe sexual disorder and are (as far as we know) incurable. Therapy can help them resist their

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It always seems to come back to sex with you guys. Why is that? We like to talk about sex Richard. You seem to get snagged on it. Why is that?

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: I try to track what he's doing -- now and then -- so that I can at least be sure he's not offering courses -- especially in Fairfield. If I find out he's doing anything in public and it's, say, within a thousand miles, I'm going to drive there and confront him in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-17 Thread hermandan0
Thnks for taking the time to answer. Sorry to be so long in responding, but I don't have a lot of time to spend on the list, and I'm a slow writer. Then I had to check through the thread to see that I'm not responding in ways that are outdated in terms of the thread.. Me: My question about

[FairfieldLife] Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_051608/content/01125114.guest.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
It always seems to come back to sex with you guys. Why is that? We like to talk about sex Richard. I don't recall you talking about your private sex life. Did I miss something? What's up with that? You seem to get snagged on it. Maybe so, but I draw the line at worshipping Judy's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM It always seems to come back to sex with you guys. Why is that?

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Uh Richard. Edg never claimed to have first hand knowledge of this person's exploits. He relayed infomation from someone he considered a reliable source. His account was then later substantiated by someone with first hand knowledge. People have various reason for not reporting crimes or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2008, at 9:32 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Thank you for making this distinction. Yes, after puberty, I guess it is a matter of consent, at least according to the law. There are strong sentiments that argue that sex between adults and minors should not be forbidden-at least

[FairfieldLife] Re: After puberty

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
lurk wrote: Yes, after puberty, I guess it is a matter of consent, at least according to the law. There are strong sentiments that argue that sex between adults and minors should not be forbidden-at least under some circumstances. Most states have the age of consent at 17, or in

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think in Andy's case someone mentioned 10. Either way, the whole secrecy aspect makes it pretty revolting, to say the least. Of course. But it is nice to get the terms straight.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Sal wrote: I think in Andy's case someone mentioned 10. Either way, the whole secrecy aspect makes it pretty revolting, to say the least. So, why did you keep it a big secret, Sal?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread jwtrowbridge
You label it dogma and with the word, the label somhow feel you have already proven your point and it is dismissed, negated, and diminished. Your argument, your point is your bias. It of course is not a new TM concept that the enlighted are acting from the laws of nature and therefore acting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Rymer, was: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Peter wrote: He is a predatory sex offender who needs to be arrested. For chrissakes, Doctor, you could at least wait until your patients leave the office before you post their private information to a public forum! Also, both she and her son need professional help. Maybe so, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: After puberty

2008-05-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a nice big ranch down here in Texas that you could visit - it's located out by the town of El Dorado ('el do rai do'), I believe. You are after puberty, right? Age of consent Richard, age of consent. Try being a little more precise in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Rymer, was: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Peter
--- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote: He is a predatory sex offender who needs to be arrested. For chrissakes, Doctor, you could at least wait until your patients leave the office before you post their private information to a public forum! Also, both

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM It always seems to come back to sex with you guys. Why is that? It has taken me quite a while to catch your groove Richard. Would you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Peter
Prima Facie: He got a raging boner when he read the post ;-) --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM It always seems to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM It always seems to come back to sex with you guys. Why is that? Curtis wrote: It has taken me quite a while to catch your roove Richard. Would you mind posting some info with diagrams in the files section so I can

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
lurk wrote: He relayed infomation from someone he considered a reliable source. His account was then later substantiated by someone with first hand knowledge. People have various reason for not reporting crimes or indiscretions. It's against the law to not report a crime. It's also

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey, Curtis, you're the guy that thought the 'douch bag' was funny! Why is that? It was a metaphorical douchebag Richard. It means that I don't like him. When posting something from someone that I don't agree with, the term douchebag clarifies my position in one word. Got it? Not a joke, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prima Facie: He got a raging boner when he read the post ;-) Thanks for that image Peter! I'm gunna go take a shower with a wire brush now... --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it always does seem to come down to how you operate or express whatever your knowingness is in the world. In my own head I keep coming back to New.Morning's definition of any enlightenment worth having is one

RE: [FairfieldLife] Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
“I do not practice Transcendental Meditation. I know people who have, and that's why I know the terminology.” I believe he’s lying here. I’m pretty sure Tom Zimmer from St. Louis told me he initiated him. I’ll check. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy was talking about This was posted anonymously to FFL by someone claiming to be the mother of a boy who had just such an encounter: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/9592 One

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not practice Transcendental Meditation. I know people who have, and that's why I know the terminology. I believe he's lying here. I'm pretty sure Tom Zimmer from St. Louis told me he initiated him. I'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-17 Thread hermandan0
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consistently high IOP is bad (leads to death of optic nerve cells). Fluctuating IOP is even worse (according to current understanding). Some top glaucoma experts feel that even a few minutes of elevated IOP

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Prima Facie: He got a raging boner when he read the post ;-) Thanks for that image Peter! I'm gunna go take a shower with a wire brush

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of new.morning Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:38 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM --- In HYPERLINK

[FairfieldLife] The functioning from home of all the laws of nature myth!

2008-05-17 Thread BillyG.
Though I appreciate MMY's wishful thinking and laudable efforts at achieving such a thing, you'd be lucky if 1/10 of 1% of the 'Siddhas' (Gee, yogic powers for merely $3500.) are functioning from the home of all the laws of nature!! Since I personally did program in the domes and wasn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-17 Thread hermandan0
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irmeli, Normal IOP is a range and there are no hard and fast rules. 21 is still not abnormal. My mother, who is 79, has had IOPs in the mid-20's for well over a decade and has no optic nerve damage. Normal is just an

[FairfieldLife] Vastu Homes in Fairfield

2008-05-17 Thread John
To All: I've looked at the pictures of vastu homes in Fairfield or Vedic through the internet, and found them impressive. Does anyone know how much those homes cost to build in the area? Approximate costs would suffice. Thanks. Regards, John R.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
The dogma that the enlightened person's actions are perfect is one thing. Since Curtis is collecting diagrams -- and btw, a collection of such would make a great book-- can we have a diagram showing how any relative thing, like actions, can be perfect? Even if one was an anthropormorphic

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
`Improved moral thinking' is now one of the main points that improves with TM as J ohn Hagelin lectured about the benefits of meditation at the David Lynch weekend. Also standard before that in his Grand Review of the Unified Field lecture series. Moral reasoning from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sandiego108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Why can't a pedophile be in UC? I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not exactly the expert on UC,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Yeah, but by saying “I know people who have,” he’s implying that he hasn’t. He’s claiming that he only knows about it second-hand, but I clearly remember hearing that he got initiated, and if so, his knowledge is first-hand. Isn't George

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Elevated Eye Pressure

2008-05-17 Thread hermandan0
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, sexual activities are also known to elevate IOP for people at risk for ocular hypertension. Says who? And since ocular hypertension IS elevated IOP, what does those at risk for ocular hypertension

RE: [FairfieldLife] Vastu Homes in Fairfield

2008-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:53 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vastu Homes in Fairfield To All: I've looked at the pictures of vastu homes in Fairfield or Vedic through the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Hey, Curtis, you're the guy that thought the 'douch bag' was funny! Why is that? Curtis wrote: It was a metaphorical douchebag Richard. It means that I don't like him. When posting something from someone that I don't agree with, the term douchebag clarifies my position in one

[FairfieldLife] Re: After puberty

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: There's a nice big ranch down here in Texas that you could visit - it's located out by the town of El Dorado ('el do rai do'), I believe. You are after puberty,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This subject is on my mind because last night I was out walking my dogs is that a euphemism?

[FairfieldLife] So where do the TM mantras come from?

2008-05-17 Thread BillyG.
Check out the bija (seed sounds) from the 5th, Vishuddha chakra! Do you think MMY knew this all along? The Vishuddha chakra (wheel) has 16 petals with one bija seed sound associated with each petal, the 50 bija seed sounds of the petals of the chakras are also the source of the major sounds of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dogma that the enlightened person's actions are perfect is one thing. Since Curtis is collecting diagrams -- and btw, a collection of such would make a great book-- can we have a diagram showing how any

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMer Bangers and thrusting

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
`Improved moral thinking' is now one of the main points that improves with TM as J ohn Hagelin lectured about the benefits of meditation at the David Lynch weekend. Also standard before that in his Grand Review of the Unified Field lecture series. Moral reasoning from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Better link. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2859592470100251969WasYrs There are so many things that are perfect in this picture I have lost count. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This subject is on my mind because last night I was out walking my dogs and, finding myself a bit hungry, decided to find a restaurant in which to eat. I was unsuccessful in this task, not because they were full on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Yeah, but by saying “I know people who have,” he’s implying that he hasn’t. He’s claiming that he only knows about it second-hand, but I clearly remember hearing that he got initiated, and if so, his knowledge is first-hand.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Douchebagger TMers

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: I'm gunna go take a shower with a wire brush now... Don't forget your 'ball gag'! Curtis wrote: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM It always seems to come back to sex with you guys. Why is that? It has taken me quite a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny Douchebagger TMers

2008-05-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Isn't George Bush a TMer also? Bhairitu wrote: And also a Douchebag. And you know this how?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: This subject is on my mind because last night I was out walking my dogs and, finding myself a bit hungry, decided to find a restaurant in which to eat. I was unsuccessful in this task, not because they were full on a Friday night, but because I had the dogs with me. Pretty

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This subject is on my mind because last night I was out walking my dogs is that a euphemism? lol- my achin' dogs...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Yeah, but by saying I know people who have, he's implying that he hasn't. He's claiming that he only knows about it second-hand, but I clearly remember hearing that he

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better link. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2859592470100251969WasYrs There are so many things that are perfect in this picture I have lost count. I am more partial to this particular perfection. Hillary

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Yeah, but by saying I know people who have, he's implying that he hasn't. He's claiming that he only knows about it second-hand, but I clearly remember hearing that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Who here still believes that enlightenment confers perfection on the one who claims to have realized (or who actually *has* realized) enlightenment? Who here believes that the actions of the enlightened are *by

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: Andy was talking about This was posted anonymously to FFL by someone claiming to be the mother of a boy who had just such an

Re: [FairfieldLife] So where do the TM mantras come from?

2008-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2008, at 12:41 PM, BillyG. wrote: Check out the bija (seed sounds) from the 5th, Vishuddha chakra! Do you think MMY knew this all along? The Vishuddha chakra (wheel) has 16 petals with one bija seed sound associated with each petal, the 50 bija seed sounds of the petals of the

[FairfieldLife] Maria Laughs (was Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?)

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't wait to tell Maria you feel this way and steal her back from you. http://image59.webshots.com/559/5/92/47/2859592470100251969WasYrs_fs.jpg Curtis, I just told Maria that, and she started to convulse in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems the more I think about it the less certain I am about what enlightenement is. Maybe you are onto something there.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Who here still believes that enlightenment confers perfection on the one who claims to have realized (or who actually *has* realized)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This subject is on my mind because last night I was out walking my dogs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Yeah, but by saying I know people who have, he's implying that he hasn't. He's claiming that he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2008, at 1:13 PM, authfriend wrote: Sorry, Vaj, that's a really lame attempt at guilt by association. No, it's called a question. And I was referring to Dubya, not Daddio.

[FairfieldLife] Re: So where do the TM mantras come from?

2008-05-17 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 12:41 PM, BillyG. wrote: Check out the bija (seed sounds) from the 5th, Vishuddha chakra! Do you think MMY knew this all along? The Vishuddha chakra (wheel) has 16 petals with one bija seed sound

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread Marek Reavis
Well said, Judy, and this relates to Jim's premise/experience regarding the perfection of what is. One's own sense of right and wrong, the individual's aspirations and achievements, our apparent successes and perceived failures, they are all part of the mix. Even those times in our lives

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip Isn't George Bush a TMer also? According to Bob Brigante, George H.W. Bush was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2008, at 11:47 AM, sandiego108 wrote: Watched a guy walking his dog in front of my house a few months ago let the dog do its business right on my lawn and then he began walking away. I went outside and asked him to clean it up. He at first denied it was his dog that had made the mess

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Who here still believes that enlightenment confers perfection on

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Who here still believes that enlightenment confers perfection on the one who claims to have realized (or who actually *has* realized)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2008, at 2:09 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip Isn't George Bush a TMer also?

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences? was:Some people who reached cc

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God, Judy, another fine statement. If you keep it up, I'll have to worship your ass before long. Thanks, Angela. I should add that while it's sexually normal for an adult to be attracted to adolescent children,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Funny exchange with Rush Douchebag Limbaugh about TM

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 2:09 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Funny Douchebagger TMers

2008-05-17 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote: Isn't George Bush a TMer also? Bhairitu wrote: And also a Douchebag. And you know this how? You don't know? Must be a result of living under a bridge? Want to buy a new bridge to live under? I'm having a special on them today. Well, anyway

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dog. Friendly.

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The perfection, if it exists, is in the enlightened person saying, Do this. Nature wants the person to say that. Not an argument of this, but an exploration. If Nature is perfect (a premise of some, and some

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: The dogma in question is that the enlightened are perfectly in accord with the laws of nature, and thus can do no wrong. Their actions are *by definition* life-supporting. They act on what samskaras remain. IOW, they don't all go away with enlightenment. There is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Exactly, Bhairitu. Sexual deviancy is a disease just like cancer. If a person can have cancer and be enlightened (and I submit they can), then a person can suffer from this disease also. And, as Judy has pointed out, Andy's behavior, though reprehensible, does not make him a pedophile. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Sexual deviants such as pedophiles often have history of being sexually abused in childhood. This might even be one of the last remaining samskaras that has to dissolve. However, they should seek help to get these

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: The perfection, if it exists, is in the enlightened person saying, Do this. Nature wants the person to say that. Not an argument of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Dogma ?

2008-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly, Bhairitu. Sexual deviancy is a disease just like cancer. If a person can have cancer and be enlightened (and I submit they can), then a person can suffer from this disease also. And, as Judy has

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